As this is a highly active WikiProject, I would like to introduce you to Credibility bot. This is a bot that makes it easier to track source usage across articles through automated reports and alerts. We piloted this approach at Wikipedia:Vaccine safety and we want to offer it to any subject area or domain. We need your support to demonstrate demand for this toolkit. If you have a desire for this functionality, or would like to leave other feedback, please endorse the tool or comment at WP:CREDBOT. Thanks! Harej (talk) 17:45, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
Support. If other members of the project are up for this, then I'd be more than happy for us to sign up. It would certainly help us with keeping track of reliable sources on a more macro-scale, rather than popping into this talk page any time we have individual queries. Personally, I think the credibility framework sounds like an excellent tool for Wikipedia as a whole. -- Grnrchst (talk) 20:59, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
It's unclear what exactly this is? Is it Wikipedia:Vaccine safety/Reports#Frequent use of unknown domains? If so, it looks like a semi-automated version to track problem domains that we would normally track through Special:LinkSearch, but I don't know what "unknown domain" is meant to signify in this model report. Realistically, I'm not sure what we're meant to do with Wikipedia:Vaccine safety/Alerts. Oftentimes problem domains are being used as primary sources, so they can potentially be replaced but also aren't necessarily urgent for replacing. So this would be a worklist that doesn't necessarily signify work. czar10:42, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
Baker, Zoe (July 2023). Means and Ends: The Revolutionary Practice of Anarchism in Europe and the United States. AK Press. ISBN978-1-84935-498-1. OCLC1345217229. – Press
Bray, Mark (September 2023). The Anarchist Inquisition: Assassins, Activists, and Martyrs in Spain and France. Ithaca: AK Press. ISBN9781849355148. – Paperback edition of last year's hardcover
Chomard, Maria Tarasova (2023). "Research Notes: Comparing Jewish Anarchist Mutual Aid Initiatives in Montreal and Toronto: The Role of Cooperation". International Journal of Canadian Studies. 61 (1): 164–176. ISSN1923-5291. Project MUSE903259.
dos Santos, Kauan Willian (April 2023). "'Nationalism and Internationalism': The Construction of Anarchism between the Local and the International in Brazil (1890–1930)". Journal of History. 58 (1): 54–81. ISSN2292-8502. Project MUSE895749.
Laursen, Eric (August 2023). Polymath: The Life and Professions of Dr Alex Comfort, Author of the Joy of Sex. AK Press. ISBN978-1-84935-496-7. OCLC1345217286. – Press
Whitehead, Andrew (2023). "An Anarchist for the Outside World (Rev. of Colin Ward and the Art of Everyday Anarchy by Sophie Scott-Brown)". History Workshop Journal. 95 (1): 222–224. ISSN1477-4569. Project MUSE902480.
Willis, James E. III (Spring 2023). "Anarchism by Carissa Honeywell (review)". Journal for the Study of Radicalism. 17 (1): 197–199. ISSN1930-1197. Project MUSE888406.
Recent literature
Is there any interest in creating a permanent subpage in project space for the "recent literature" lists? I think they're a good idea for coping with ever-growing body of scholarship on anarchism and for providing a way for editors with less time to contribute, but are always at risk of getting archived and forgotten, or simply ignored, on this talk page. We could even rethink the format a bit, e.g. adding space for a brief list of relevant articles for each publication. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 15:53, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
I like using this page as a noticeboard, as it's easy to track anything that requires group attention, whether it's a thread/discussion of new sources, new articles, noteworthy page actions (moves, deletions), or anything else that might interest the group. Would this idea to just have a bibliography of all related sources organized by year? The aspect of being archived or forgotten, I think, is part of its nature. At least there's visibility on this page versus burying it on another, and eventually prior years should be archived on any dedicated page as well. czar10:53, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
We could use this page as a noticeboard and once the discussion is archived, transfer that to a new subpage specifically for archiving these lists? -- asilvering (talk) 17:56, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
@Grnrchst, Czar, and Asilvering: I've had a go at reformatting the lists as tables that should present the information a bit more clearly and allow some additional information to be included. This is obviously provisional and still needs a bit of tidyig up so anyone should feel free to add/remove/tweak/revert wholesale if you think necessary. If this seems agreeable it could be a foundation for a more comprehensive bibliography that projects further back, and shouldn't at all prelude continuing to have regular "recent literature" sections on this page. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 13:28, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
Most bibliographies are bulleted lists for easier sorting. I don't find the "Relevant articles" column as needed because the sources will be added there once and don't necessarily need to be categorized in a column beyond that. czar01:33, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
Essay on the member list
I just had a look at our member list and noticed that there is an essay on there titled Solidarity Among Rogues?. While I think that having an introductory essay for prospective members is probably a good idea, I don't think this is it. It's very focused on ideology, spending more time going on about ideological differences between anarchist schools of thought and anarchist Wikipedians than anything to do with the WikiProject. While this may have been relevant to an earlier version of the WikiProject and Wikipedia, I don't think this essay represents what our project is now, and could very much do with a rewrite. Does anyone here have ideas for what an introductory WikiProject essay could be? -- Grnrchst (talk) 10:19, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
I'd remove/delete it as a relic of another time. There used to be a page that showed active editors within a topic area without requiring overt membership but it looks like the bot is down. I found that to be more helpful than signing a roster. In any event, I'm not sure we need an intro essay, no? czar11:54, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Hi everyone! This October, Women in Green will be hosting its 5th Editathon: Around the World in 31 Days. The aim of this event is to get articles on women and/or women's works from at least 31 different countries reviewed to GA rating, which would help improve both the gender and geographic balance among recognised articles. This is a project I'm very happy to be a part of and I hope some of you will be interested in joining. There's no shortage of anarchist women from all over the world whose articles we can work on, so if you fancy taking some up, here's some suggestions:
Hey @Czar; @Mujinga; @Asilvering. I just wanted to apologise for some of my comments during the FAC process for the article on Nestor Makhno. I went too far and let my frustrations get the better of me, I shouldn't have taken them out on my fellow colleagues and I'm very sorry for that. It appears that the review process may be over now, so I'm looking forward to seeing what comes of it. Wish you all the best with the articles you're improving. Mujinga's article on Phoolan Devi looks to be coming along very nicely. --Grnrchst (talk) 17:31, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
No worries, Grnrchst. Everyone gets hot sometimes and I sympathize with what made it frustrating as a first-time nominator. It was a particularly hard topic to nominate but the the resulting article is a triumph, worth printing and framing and appreciating. You've done so much for the articles on the Makhnovschina, so on behalf of readers everywhere, thank you. czar13:08, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for your kind words. The process has forced me to reevaluate what the FA status means, as what precisely fits into its criteria severely narrows the scope of my potential submissions. Of the dozen or so biographies I've gotten to GA so far, I think only Gaetano Bresci would meet its standards, as Bresci died before 1903 and was high-profile enough at the time that western reports on him are trivial to find. --Grnrchst (talk) 13:49, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
Happy new year everyone! Last year was quite the productive year for our wee project, so I wanted to briefly highlight what we accomplished. This year roughly 250 new articles were created or added to the Anarchism WikiProject's purview; interesting facts about 16 articles were featured on Did You Know?; 17 articles were brought up to Good Article status; 2 articles were brought up to Featured Article status; and 3 of our articles were featured in the news, although sadly these were all recent deaths. Each day we improve the encyclopedia's coverage of anarchism as a subject, and I hope that's something we can all be proud of. Wishing you all the best in the new year, and happy editing. :D --Grnrchst (talk) 10:41, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
Drafts and requests revival
Hey all. I noticed a while back that the WikiProject's drafts and requests had been largely stagnant for quite some time. Inspired by Women in Red's redlists, I decided to attempt building it into something more useful for moving forward with the WikiProject over the longer term. So far I've mostly focused on collecting red links for anarchists, and have combed our sister Wikipedias for help expanding. I still need to finish the Spanish anarchists subpage, as the Spanish, Basque, Galician and Catalan Wikipedias have all done such impressive jobs on writing about their local anarchist histories that collecting it all is its own big task. I'll also have a look at organizations at some point. But for now, I think this will be a better resource for users new and old that want to help create more articles for the WikiProject. If you want to help build the redlist, please by all means feel free. :)
I'm not sure what to do with what's left in the drafts section. All of the users that posted the drafts there have been inactive for a fair few years, so there hasn't been any movement with them. Personally I think SwitChar's List of anarchists and Zazaban's Timeline of anarchist history have the most potential for the main space. The other two I'm not sure about, as the "Anarchist defendants" draft strikes me as incredibly synthetic in scope and the Ramor Ryan draft is little more than a collection of the subject's writings. Would anybody be interested in helping take one of these drafts to main space? And does anybody have ideas for how we can use the drafts section more effectively for future WikiProject tasks? I personally prefer to keep my drafts off-wiki in files I can edit offline, so I'm not sure I would end up contributing much to this section. --Grnrchst (talk) 14:23, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
This list would be great for an edit-a-thon. It's a hard list, though, as many of the interlanguage links are missing sources so it's tough to source, for instance, Haiducii lui Cotovschi without advanced knowledge of the Romanian language and they're likely to stay red for a while if not forever. It's possible to add Wikidata links in place of the {{ill}} for each entry, which would help give some background info to use in search. We also have Wikipedia:WikiProject Anarchism/Missing anarchists to use as a worklist, which sorts Wikidata-tagged anarchists based on how many other language Wikipedias have articles, i.e., most likely for us to have enough to source an article. As for the old draft entries, I think they can boldly be removed based on the amount of work they'd need. czar02:01, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Aye, I expected that quite a number of items in the list would probably stay on there a while. Maybe we can make periodical removals of low-information entries as we work down the list. Holding an edit-a-thon in the future would also be a good idea! As for the Haiducii, I know libcom translated an article about them a while back, if you're interested in learning a bit about them. And thanks for informing me about the Missing anarchists worklist! I actually didn't know that existed but think it works nicely as a companion to the longer redlist, so I added it as a link in there. --Grnrchst (talk) 14:03, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
For the entries that are hard-to-impossible to source, it might be useful to split off another page to move those to, once we start coming across them. ie, a "missing anarchists who do not meet GNG in English sources" list, to save someone else the trouble of duplicating that search work. -- asilvering (talk) 15:57, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
I like this idea, but don't think it should be limited to English sources. WP:GNG specifically states that sources "do not have to be available online or written in English." --Grnrchst (talk) 16:36, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
I'd also be into a source-a-thon in which we source a portion of the list to make it easier for someone to take up. czar19:52, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Oh sure, I don't mean to say "these don't pass GNG", but "these don't pass GNG on English-language sources alone", ie, someone without multiple-language fluency is going to get stuck. People who do have that fluency can easily pick possible articles off that list. -- asilvering (talk) 20:27, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Though, I suppose a more accurate way to describe what I had in mind originally was something like "I checked and can't prove that this person meets GNG, but we should keep them on the list anyway since there may be sources in the relevant language". -- asilvering (talk) 20:36, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
@Grnrchst, re: adding Martin Buber and Camille Pissarro into project scope[1][2], does either have a strong connection with anarchism? The standard I try to apply is similar to the standard of inclusion in categories, i.e., whether the trait is "defining" of the subject. For example, in the case of Buber or Pissarro, an affiliation with anarchism is not noteworthy enough to include in the lede of the article, so is it a strong enough connection to warrant an anarchism-related category to define the subject or to include in the Anarchism project scope? Some articles need to be expanded to include anarchism-related material that has yet to be paraphrased, so I leave room for that here as well, but if it isn't a prominent connection, I err towards not including these two in scope. czar04:19, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
I was actually being discriminatory when I was adding people into the project scope. There were quite a few cases where I came across an artist that had been tagged as an "anarchist" in another language Wikipedia, but it either wasn't mentioned in the article or its mention was something like "they were briefly around anarchists" or "they were called an anarchist". I added Pissarro because the French Wikipedia article on him includes an entire section about his anarchist politics and his influence on the French anarchist movement. (Impressionism and anarchism were indeed very closely connected).
As for Buber, he's actually someone I've done a fair amount of research on so I can say with a matter of certainty that he is absolutely relevant to the WikiProject. Buber was a close friend and associate of Gustave Landauer, and together they were part of an anarchist communist group "Neue Gemeinschaft". After Landauer's death, Buber was the main translator of his work. Buber developed a non-state and non-violent socialist approach to Jewish emancipation, which he offered as an alternative to the statism of Herzl's project. Much of Buber's work was exceptionally critical of state forms and was incredibly influential on the Kibbutz movement.
Ruth Kinna depicts Buber's work as in the tradition of "anarchist utopianism",[3] as did Rhiannon Firth, who focused on him as a central anarchist theorist on the subject of utopian communities.[4] Avraham Yassour described Buber as having adopted parts of Landauer's social anarchism.[5] Furio Bagnini said that Buber defined Judaism in religious anarchist terms.[6] Erhard Doubrawa noted Buber's influence on Paul Goodman, and went as far as to call him an anarchist.[7] Uri Gordon claimed him to be a key influence on Bookchin.[8]
I know of more sources, I just wanted to show that I didn't hastily add Buber to our WikiProject's scope without reason. --Grnrchst (talk) 09:26, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
Haha, this reminds me to put Gustave Courbet back in (sorry czar). He has a whole chapter in Allan Antliff's Anarchy and Art, which has been sitting on my desk for probably a year now. -- asilvering (talk) 03:15, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
That's all well and good. I'm mainly saying that unless those same broad strokes are covered in the article, especially its lead, then the connection isn't readily apparent, especially if it's meant to be a "defining" trait of the subject. A sourced sentence or two along the lines you've added here would be a fine place to start, or a link dump on the talk page, but those articles don't have anything like this right now. czar13:55, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
WikiCup open
Hi all, a reminder that WikiCupsignups are open, in case you want to fly the black flag for the project. I've previously found the Cup to be a good way to get extra visibility for articles that need reviews, as this group tends to be more heavily engaged. czar14:08, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
Decided to sign up. This could be fun :) I decided to use the Zapatista flag. Conceptual symmetry but not monotony like. --Grnrchst (talk) 16:28, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
That's great! Nice work Adam! I may be interested in improving his article over the next month, before the featured date. He's popped up a couple times in my research, and seems like quite the interesting fellow. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:58, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
Thank you! Glad I could do something. It's such a nice image, and such an interesting person. Read some of his (English-language) works, and he writes very well. Adam Cuerden(talk)Has about 8.8% of all FPs.00:09, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
I think if we picked specific sections to do drives on, that'd be more manageable than a generalised cleanup drive. Say one month we focus on "Clarification needed" and the next on "Dead external links" or something. --Grnrchst (talk) 15:25, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
Good idea. We could use the existing cleanup categories groupings: BLP, Clarity, Content, General, Links, Neutrality, References. References is the hardest and can definitely be broken into subdivisions but I would be up for starting with:
BLPs, Clarity, and Content at once (66 issues), then
I'd say let's wait until we reach the above stub expansion goal (29 to go!), so we don't divide our energies. Personally I'm rather burnt out right now, so I'm struggling to even do the things I want to do, aside from necessary clean-up work... :/ Grnrchst (talk) 10:31, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
+1 Sorry to hear that and no rush to this, of course! Maybe we can revisit as "spring cleaning"?
When that has happened to me on larger projects, I've personally found it helpful to turn my attention to smaller projects, which gives me more steam to return to the larger one (or the realization that it's not worth pursuing). czar16:01, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
Bennett, Nolan (September 28, 2023). "The Ambivalence of Alexander Berkman's Anti-Prison Anarchism". American Political Science Review: 1–15. doi:10.1017/S0003055423000965. ISSN0003-0554.
Bray, Mark (September 2023). The Anarchist Inquisition: Assassins, Activists, and Martyrs in Spain and France. Ithaca: AK Press. ISBN9781849355148. – Paperback edition of last year's hardcover
Cleminson, Richard; Duarte, Diogo (2023). "Anarchism, colonialism and the question of 'race' in Portugal (c.1890-1930)". Journal of Iberian and Latin American Studies. 29 (1): 115–135. doi:10.1080/14701847.2023.2178169. ISSN1470-1847 – via Taylor & Francis.
Davies, Mererid Puw (July 2023). "Dada in the Underground: linkeck and West Berlin's Anti-Authoritarian Newspapers, 1968–69". Forum for Modern Language Studies. 59 (3): 345–361. doi:10.1093/fmls/cqad043. ISSN0015-8518.
Ferretti, Federico (April 2023). "Statues that must stand not fall: The material agency of anarchism in the marble monuments of Carrara, Italy". Journal of Historical Geography. 80: 94–105. doi:10.1016/j.jhg.2022.11.001. ISSN0305-7488. S2CID254715793.
High, Holly; Reno, Joshua O., eds. (October 2023). As If Already Free: Anthropology and Activism After David Graeber. Pluto Press. hdl:20.500.12657/77038. ISBN978-0-7453-4845-2.
Lundström, Markus (2023). "When Anarchism Met Punk". In Hill, Helena; Pinto, Andrés Brink (eds.). Social Movements in 1980s Sweden: Contention in the Welfare State. Palgrave Studies in the History of Social Movements. Cham: Springer International Publishing. pp. 81–109. doi:10.1007/978-3-031-27370-4_4. ISBN978-3-031-27370-4.
Maltsev, Vladimir (June 2023). "The economics of military innovation under anarchy: The case of the Ukrainian Civil War of 1917–1921". Journal of Economic Behavior & Organization. 210: 180–190. doi:10.1016/j.jebo.2023.04.020. ISSN0167-2681.
Serna, Elodie (August 1, 2023). "Vasectomy in Interwar Europe: From Medical to Political Practices". Social History of Medicine. 36 (3): 456–471. doi:10.1093/shm/hkac052. ISSN0951-631X.
Stavisky, Sebastián (May 2023). "El vegetarianismo en la prensa anarquista rioplatense [Vegetarianism in the anarchist press of the Río de la Plata]". Revista de Historia Regional (in Spanish). 27 (2): 1–17. doi:10.19137/qs.v27i2.6336. ISSN0329-2665. EBSCOhost165033088.
Swann, Thomas (2023). "'Anarchist technologies': Anarchism, cybernetics and mutual aid in community responses to the COVID-19 crisis". Organization. 30 (1): 193–209. doi:10.1177/13505084221090632. ISSN1350-5084.
Willrich, Michael (October 31, 2023). American Anarchy: The Epic Struggle between Immigrant Radicals and the US Government at the Dawn of the Twentieth Century. Basic Books. ISBN978-1-5416-9737-9.
"American Anarchy: The Epic Struggle Between Immigrant Radicals and the U.S. Government at the Dawn of the Twentieth Century". Publishers Weekly. 270 (33): 50. August 14, 2023. ISSN0000-0019. EBSCOhost169960030.
Book reviews
Craib, Raymond (September 2023). "Lxs anarquistas (Revs. of Rebellion in Patagonia, Anarchism in Latin America, Bad Mexicans)". Latin American Research Review. 58 (3): 717–729. doi:10.1017/lar.2023.27. ISSN0023-8791. EBSCOhost172323970.
Lebrón Rivera, Rodney (2023). "Rev. of Amor y anarquía: escritos de Luisa Capetillo. Edición revisada, ensayos críticos y testimonios. (Spanish)". Centro Journal (in Spanish). 35 (2): 328–331. ISSN1538-6279. EBSCOhost173132364.
Maksymowych, Terry (August 2023). "Rev. of Christian Anarchist: Ammon Hennacy, A Life on the Catholic Left by William Marling". Catholic Library World. 94 (1): 48. ISSN0008-820X.
"Rev. of Islam and Anarchism. Relationships and Resonances by Mohamad Abdou". Religious Studies Review. 49 (3): 411–412. September 2023. doi:10.1111/rsr.16577. ISSN1748-0922. S2CID263917621.
Robinson, Guy M. (2003). "Rev. of A Mass Conspiracy to Feed People: Food Not Bombs and the World-Class Waste of Global Cities by David Boarder Giles". Geographical Research. doi:10.1111/1745-5871.12616. ISSN1745-5871. S2CID260174030.
Winston, Bryan (2023). "State Surveillance and Anarchism in the U.S.-Mexico Borderlands (Rev. of Bad Mexicans: Race, Empire, and Revolution in the Borderlands by Kelly Lytle Hernández)". The Journal of the Gilded Age and Progressive Era. 22 (1): 100–102. doi:10.1017/S1537781422000470. ISSN1537-7814. S2CID255441608.
Special issues
Nations and Nationalism themed section on anarchism and the national question – historical, theoretical and contemporary perspectives (January 2023) Guest edited by José Gutierrez and Ruth Kinna
Adams, Matthew S (2023). "Theorising the anti-nation: George Woodcock, anarchism, and Canadian nationalism". Nations and Nationalism. 29 (1): 160–175. doi:10.1111/nana.12893. ISSN1469-8129.
Bantman, Constance; Di Paola, Pietro (2023). "Banal and everyday (inter)nationalism: French and Italian anarchist exiles in London, 1870s–1914". Nations and Nationalism. 29 (1): 176–190. doi:10.1111/nana.12897. ISSN1469-8129.
Goyens, Tom (2023). "Anarchists and national identity: The case of German radicals in the United States and Brazil, 1880–1945". Nations and Nationalism. 29 (1): 146–159. doi:10.1111/nana.12894. ISSN1469-8129. S2CID253213748.
Gutiérrez, José A; Martí Font, Jordi (2023). "October 2017 in Catalonia: The anarchists and the procés". Nations and Nationalism. 29 (1): 209–228. doi:10.1111/nana.12896. ISSN1469-8129.
Margarucci, Ivanna (2023). "'A Fatherland worth living in': Anarchism, citizenship and nation in Bolivia, 1900–1941". Nations and Nationalism. 29 (1): 191–208. doi:10.1111/nana.12895. ISSN1469-8129. S2CID253210413.
Zimmer, Kenyon (2023). "National subjects and subversive subjectivity: Deportation and the paradox of the anarchist citizen in the era of the First Red Scare". Nations and Nationalism. 29 (1): 131–145. doi:10.1111/nana.12892. ISSN1469-8129. S2CID253218565.
The anarchist revolutions template looks incredibly synthetically-defined. Anarchists were only one faction within the Paris Commune. The Cantonal Revolution was adjacent to anarchism, but I wouldn't describe it as anarchist (anarchists were actually more closely involved in the contemporary Petroleum Revolution, which is not included here). Anarchists were involved in the Mexican and German revolutions, but describing them as "anarchist revolutions" is totally false. The Biennio Rosso wasn't a revolution, it was a period of civil conflict between revolutionaries (including but not limited to anarchists) and reactionaries, immediately preceding the fascist takeover of power in Italy. I'm not sure by what metric the Ruhr uprising was remotely anarchist, as the FAU only played a minor role in the events. The Kronstadt uprising failed to turn into a revolution. I'm not sure the KPAM can be described as a revolution. The May 68 events can dubiously be described as a revolution, but again, anarchists were only one faction of many. The Zapatistas aren't anarchists and it's frankly offensive to continue claiming them as such. The Rojava Revolution is also not anarchist, though the SDF are partly inspired by anarchist ideas and some anarchists participated (in a minor role).
Honestly the only two here that make sense to call "anarchist revolutions" are the Makhnovshchina and the Spanish Revolution, but then why do we need an entire template just for them? --Grnrchst (talk) 16:47, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
Add Template:Anarchies to the mix too, as the navbox for "Anarchist-related territories and autonomous zones" (i.e., the nebulous "anarchist communities" catch-all mentioned above). It probably needs to be split into categories for intentional communities, revolutionary communes, maybe some uprisings. Its designations of "mass societies" and autonomous territories ranging from the Bavarian Socialist Republic to the George Floyd Square occupied protest reads as an indiscriminate grouping. czar17:45, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
This falls into the same problems as the list, although it's arguably even worse with its "anarchist-related" thing. Some of these entries I don't even understand how they're remotely related to anarchism. --Grnrchst (talk) 16:52, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
In case anyone reflexively clicked away from the giant banner, I thought I'd link this here, since we've got a fair few articles on Ukrainian anarchists already. -- asilvering (talk) 23:06, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
Dunno if I'll have the time or energy to contribute to this over the next couple weeks, but will give a broad overview of overall progress on Ukrainian anarchist topics:
We currently have 1 featured article and 5 good articles on Ukrainian anarchists, as well as another good article about an event in Ukrainian anarchist history.
Biographical articles are largely solid, most based on the available English language literature with some pulling from Russian and Ukrainian sources where necessary. I could probably submit a couple more for GA in their current state, but some (like Maria Nikiforova and Mykhailo Drahomanov) still need a bit of work before they're there.
I think the biographical article that still needs the most work, proportional to its importance, is the one on Sholem Schwarzbard. The article isn't in a very good state right now, but Schwarzbard's story is a very interesting one.
The anarchism in Ukraine article provides a decent overview of the history but needs more diverse sourcing. Each section currently pulls largely from single sources.
The Revolutionary Insurgent Army of Ukraine article still needs to be worked on. My plan is to eventually split the overly-long history sections into their own dedicated articles, with more robust sourcing. But I am thoroughly exhausted by this topic so an ETA on this is indefinite. Its sections on organisation could also do with expansion, and I think it needs a section on its tactics.
Think the article on the Makhnovshchina is as GA ready as it'll ever be at this point. Some of the more focused articles in that subject area are probably there as well. Really the main thing keeping me from submitting more of these for GA is the sluggish uptake of reviews. To my knowledge, there aren't any major gaps in the subject area, more areas where the amount of information could be improved or given greater focus.
I recently overhauled our articles on the Revolutionary Confederation of Anarcho-Syndicalists and the Resistance Committee, which were some interesting dives into modern Ukrainian organisations. Other modern organisations' articles, as well as some of the biographies, could still do with some improvement.
As more sources are published about anarchist participation in the Maidan uprising and the resistance to the Russian invasion, more information about modern history can be added.
There's definitely still more work to do on this subject area, but I'm quite happy with where we've gotten with it so far. My ability to contribute more is largely limited by my exhaustion with the subject matter. There's only so many times I can go over the same set of information before it gets too boring to bother. If anyone wants to help contribute to this topic, I'd be more than happy to provide advice or guidance on the matter. :) --Grnrchst (talk) 16:34, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
Gauging interest in a broader tenant rights and history group
Hi! I'm LoomCreek and a member of the New York Housing and Tenant Rights Task Force where we've been documenting the history of land ownership and tenant advocacy in the state and city.
Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist and I want to gauge interest in creating a larger task force for worldwide history and/or more regionally specific ones. If interested, please add your username to sandbox/Housing and Tenant Rights, let us know about what your interests are and whether you'd prefer a regional task force, a world-wide wikiproject, or both. In a couple weeks we'll start creating them based on requests (5+ for a regional task force, 10+ for a wikiproject). Best regards, LoomCreek (talk) 17:20, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Hey everyone! In a couple weeks time, the 2024 edition of the Core Contest will be starting. This event has a focus on improving vital articles, and as we currently have 85 vital articles under our project (16 of which are already at GA or FA), I thought it might be worth getting involved. I've already gotten four VAs to GA status, with another getting a review soon (thanks asilvering!), so I'm eyeing up what to do next. I've already started working on improving our article on anarcho-syndicalism, although there's still a lot of work to go there, and have been considering a few of our vital biographies (namely Buenaventura Durruti, Johann Most, Subcomandante Marcos and Sergey Nechayev). Raising this here in case anyone else fancies adopting a VA for this event. :) --Grnrchst (talk) 10:25, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
You've convinced me to start work on the article about de Cleyre. It's not in a great state right now, and I think it's got a lot of room for improvement. --Grnrchst (talk) 13:01, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Highlighting Romani anarchists (and anarchist solidarity)
Helios Gómez was an Andalusian Calé poet and painter who was a central figure in the CNT's propaganda department. If you've seen a selection of CNT propaganda posters from the 1930s, you've likely seen something drawn up by Gómez.
Marià Rodríguez i Vázquez, also known by his nickname "Marianet", was a Catalan Calé anarcho-syndicalist who served as general secretary of the CNT during the civil war. He was a key figure in driving forward the anarchist collaboration with the Republican government and before his premature death advocated for a guerrilla struggle against the Francoist dictatorship, which eventually became the Maquis.
Konrad Bercovici was a Romanian Jewish journalist who was raised among Romani people and continued to live among Romani community in New York upon emigrating to America. He became publicly known as a "Gypsy-Jew" and his anti-racism is reflected in his writings, which gathered appreciation from the film-maker (and anarchist) Charlie Chaplin, himself of Romani descent.
Romany Marie was also a Romanian emigrant to America. She established a number of Bohemian cafés that were draped in Romanian decour and served Romanian food, while Marie herself took on a Romani affect and clothing as hostess. Her cafes hosted numerous radicals and dissidents, with Marie being a personal follower of Emma Goldman.
Leda Rafanelli was an Italian anarchist publisher who claimed Romani ancestry and consciously adopted Romani culture, considering it to be an expression of individualist anarchism. She saw anarchism and Romani culture as an alternative to hegemonic Western European civilisation, and continued to practice both even during the time of Mussolini's dictatorship.
I've also come across a couple other Romani anarchists during my research. The one that sticks in my mind is Kasilda Hernáez, a Basque Calé anarchist who supported anti-fascist resistance and played a role in the rise of ETA. Anarchists have also played a role in countering anti-GRT racism throughout Europe: including the Workers' Solidarity Movement in Ireland; Paul Polansky in Kosovo; Raoul Vaneigem in Belgium and Rev Dia in Ukraine. If you know of any other Romani anarchists or stories of anarchist solidarity with GRT people, please share them here, I would be happy to read about them. --Grnrchst (talk) 13:46, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
Hey everyone. This month, Women in Red is doing a geofocused edit-a-thon about women from Central and Eastern Europe. We have no shortage of women from this region in our redlist, so if you fancy creating some articles for this event, consider some of these ones:
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I'd be happy to take a look at the Russian, Ukrainian and Belarusian entries, and maybe a couple of the Bulgarian ones. --Grnrchst (talk) 11:59, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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The time allocated for running scripts has expired.. Thank you for the feedback! Yes, I think I could have a go at a couple of these.Wikociewie (talk) 18:51, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
Reminder to anyone reading this that if you're translating from another language wikipedia, you need to attribute the translation in an edit summary. If you're using the translation widget (WP:CXT), it will do this for you. Otherwise, see WP:HOWTRANS for a statement you can copy.
Also a sad reminder that you should always, always check for copyvio first. Copyvio is often accidentally laundered by translation, and it's a real bummer to figure this out when you do a source check after having already translated the article. I've been burned by this twice because I didn't learn my lesson the first time; I just had to CSD a huge article that was recently translated by an en-wiki editor since the original fr-wiki editor added copyvio years and years ago and it was never caught. You can use earwig to catch the obvious stuff - just make sure to set the language correctly (it defaults to English). -- asilvering (talk) 17:50, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Roll call?
Hi everyone. It feels like this noticeboard has never been as active as it has been these past few months, with collective drives to cleanup articles, expand stub and create new articles, as well as discussions on other parts of the project. But it's also worth noting that, while discussion is active, it's limited to only a few of us. This is in contrast to the dozens of people in our participants list and who have identified themselves as members with userboxes. I was wondering if, in light of more recent collective action, it would be useful for us to do a roll call of participants. Maybe either a mass ping of listed participants or dedicated talk page messages asking if they would be interested in more closely collaborative participation? --Grnrchst (talk) 08:16, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
I'm in favor of sending a one-time message to editors on that participants list and to those who have received a welcome/invite message about this noticeboard. They might not know about recent activity and would want to join in. My suggestion would be that we deprecate the "Participants" list afterwards, as it quickly goes out of date and doesn't necessarily indicate activity. (There used to be a bot that would create an active participant list but it's dead.) Instead, we can create an opt-in mailing list for those who want updates about coordinated efforts, like edit drives or newsletters related to the project. I'll create Wikipedia:WikiProject Anarchism/Subscribe if that sounds good. czar13:32, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
@czar, do you know anything about why it's dead? I guess what I'm wondering here is whether it's something broken that will take a lot of work to fix, or whether it needs someone to adopt it and perform some comparatively minor fixes. Sorry if I've asked before. I have a feeling I did but can't remember the answer. -- asilvering (talk) 03:25, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
@Asilvering, the bot's maintainer, @Harej, hasn't answered questions about it in a while. My understanding is that there was some funding for the Wikipedia:WikiProject X initiative and eventually it was mothballed. It's a shame because this bot was one of the more generally useful features and ultimately had little to do with the WikiProject X features. In any event, maintaining a mailing list is, to my eyes, even more generally useful than a participant list. czar03:36, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
I've sent out a talk page message to users in the members list/category that haven't been recent participants either in the subject area or in the project. For people that have been active in the subject area, but not on the noticeboard or the project's collective efforts, I've sent a more personalised message. Also, I left off regular participants on the message board, for obvious reasons. In the category, I ended up doing some cleanup, as almost half of the users were inactive, some for over a decade, some had even been blocked.
Am hoping the messages stimulate some additional activity, but at the very least, it's nice to be able to inform people about what we've been doing. --Grnrchst (talk) 13:38, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Thank you! It's a nice message. Inactive (unblocked) users might still be worth contacting even if they don't participate often, as sometimes they come back. czar21:12, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
If anyone wants to coordinate a project revival, participation drive, or reorientation, then doing an interview for The Signpost is an established media channel for that. Past interviews are listed at Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Series/WikiProject_report and other resources for doing this are at Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Resources#WikiProject_report. This WikiProject has never done an interview in that venue. It would be more ambitious than just a roll call, but if there were an interview, then sharing the interview at the time of the roll call could be a way to get registered but disengaged users more excited. I am an editor for The Signpost and can help with some of this but I would not submit content for any interview. Bluerasberry (talk)15:23, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Coordinate some basic information into this, and then I will come up with some more targeted questions. When we have some content then I will bring this into Signpost's editorial process. Bluerasberry (talk)17:22, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
I'll see if I can get around to answering some of these soon. I've got a busy week ahead. Thanks for doing this Lane! --Grnrchst (talk) 08:36, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
My citogenesis report
So after probably too long of this sitting in my drafts, I finally managed to put together a report on the "Free Territory" citogenesis incident and The Commoner agreed to publish it. A lot of this is old news on here, but if you're interested in reading: "We Carry a Free Territory in Our Hearts" --Grnrchst (talk) 08:38, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
I actually already knew about the most widely-known flag being technically incorrect and the name "Free Territory" originating from Wikipedia, but I didn't realize that it was that transient as a political area. Iostn (talk) 22:27, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Yes same lostn! I assumed the zone Makhno's forces controlled lasted for longer. Nice one Grnrchst, I stumbled across the article on patreon and was like hang on a minute this must be you know who! I wasn't sure if you wanted it linked to your wiki identity or not (even if it would be fairly easy to connect) but since you've let the cat out of the bag already that's ok :) Mujinga (talk) 10:00, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Yeah the commoner! Which I must've randomly joined by searching for anarchism or somesuch. I just joined patreon to follow a podcast about the neolithic age which i really like and hadn't realised went paywalled a year ago. Mujinga (talk) 20:01, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Developing Countries WikiContest
Hi everyone. Next week marks the beginning of the 2024 Developing Countries WikiContest, which is dedicated to improving articles about the Global South. Articles focused on Africa, Asia, Latin America and Eastern Europe account for roughly one quarter of our project. If you fancy taking on some articles for improvement during this event, feel free to spool through our categories covering Africa, Asia and South America, as well as relevant parts of Europe and North America. We also have some vital articles from these regions that still need improving, so if you fancy taking those on, they are:
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I don't know how much I'll be able to participate, as I'm feeling quite burned out at the moment, but I think this would be an excellent opportunity for us to expand our geographical focus. --Grnrchst (talk) 11:49, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Fictional anarchists
The List of fictional anarchists doesn't currently meet the list notability criteria, namely that there isn't sourcing that covers this group as a list. It's more of a collection of original research and primary sources that would be sufficiently handled as a category (if there are enough notable fictional anarchists). Wanted to see if anyone else had sources or thoughts before sending it to AfD or merger. czar16:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
I think categories are probably the way to go in general, but I think there probably is coverage of individual parts of that list - eg there's a whole special issue on anarchists and comics here. -- asilvering (talk) 01:43, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Too broad, I think, and properly it should be about the interaction between arts and anarchism (ie, Anarchism AND arts), not simply characters who are anarchists, or storylines that are about anarchism (ie, Anarchism IN arts). -- asilvering (talk) 18:05, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
I'd be inclined to !vote keep if that list were nominated for deletion. Per WP:CLN, per academic sources that consider the evolving representation of anarchists across works of fiction (and list them [9], [10], [11]), or per WP:IAR. Aside from a strict reading of NLIST, is there a reason this should be deleted? We have plenty of crufty listicles on wiki that ought to be memory holed, but this list doesn't strike me as egregious. gobonobo+c01:52, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
It's not that it's the most egregious but it's been tagged for cleanup and sourced to primary or unreliable sources so we should figure out its prognosis. I think the sources you cite make a case for an article on how anarchism appears in fiction but not necessarily fictional anarchist characters as a group or class, unless you're seeing something I'm not. czar14:31, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
I see that you tagged it for cleanup. And there are primary sources in the article that could be addressed/replaced, but the majority of the references are reliable, citing books for the most part. As to NLIST criteria and the characterization of my sources, I beg to differ. The first source,
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is explicitly about anarchists in British fiction, not anarchy in fiction. The paper goes on for 26 pages about the anarchist character in British fiction, exploring specific instances, and treating them as a class. The second, Against Anarchy, also explores anarchist characters as a class in several places, discussing, for example, their association with a set of clichés, preconceptions, and stereotypes in early modernist fiction. gobonobo+c15:13, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Having looked into this some more and taken some more time reading the individual list entries, I think I would also be inclined to vote keep in an AfD. At the same time, I don't think this is a particularly useful list article, nor do I think it could become a particularly useful article. Part of the trouble is that there are some works that are entirely about a group of anarchists, so you end up with effectively no reason to exclude any character from The Anarchist Cookbook (film), which starts to become a bit ridiculous. I also see that the characters in each medium really are dealt with in very different ways, so I'm unconvinced that a hypothetical FL-level version of this list would hold together. More reasonable, I think, would be List of anarchists in television, List of anarchists in comics, etc. (Or just Anarchists in television, Anarchists in comics.)
Which is to say, I think we can reasonably remove the notability tag and leave "making this into a better article" as a building-the-encyclopedia project, not an urgent maintenance task. -- asilvering (talk) 18:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Anarcho-monarchism
This new article needs some attention, if someone has time to review the sources for reliability and depth (describing this concept in more than passing mentions). czar11:58, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
I was thinking about @Grnrchst's comment from a few months ago—The Zapatistas aren't anarchists and it's frankly offensive to continue claiming them as such. —and was wondering: Should our project still continue the Zapatista articles in scope or remove the The time allocated for running scripts has expired. banner from them?
They've been historically "claimed" by anarchists in some way, but it hasn't fully borne out in the sourcing. I think of the autonomist movement as being in similar associative circumstances. czar17:32, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
I think they're relevant to the scope of the WikiProject, I just don't think we should be labelling them as "anarchists" in Wikivoice. --Grnrchst (talk) 13:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
Batman: Anarky has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 02:12, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
I've been thinking for a while about our series of "Anarchism and..." articles and how we could rework them. I was motivated to raise a discussion about this after @Czar unilaterally merged the article on propaganda of the deed, a very well-defined topic, into the article on anarchism and violence, which always seemed synthetic in scope (it shoves together unrelated text about propaganda of the deed, anarcho-pacifism and random anarchist views on violence, with no clear structure). Per WP:AND, we are supposed to be exercising caution when using "and" titles, yet we have several:
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Looking at our "anarchism and..." articles, they all seem very randomly cobbled together, with no rhyme or reason to their structure. Their scope is almost inherently broken from the outset, as the "and" opens the door for literally any passing anarchist views on a subject to be inserted in, rather than focusing on sources specifically about anarchism's connection to a certain subject. It could even be argued that it messes with neutrality.
So I wanted to bring up a discussion about these articles. What can we do about them? Are there possible improvements that could be made to them? Should we retitle them to something more well-defined? Or should some of them be deleted or merged/redirected to other articles? From my view, the only one of these I know I'd vote keep on is "anarchism and education", as I know of several sources specifically about it (although it might be better titled "Anarchist education" or something). --Grnrchst (talk) 08:38, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
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I think most of these would survive a deletion discussion because they're topics that are frequently discussed in relation with anarchism. I see them as summary style splits from the anarchism and former issues in anarchism overview topics. Though they might need some work to get in line with how summary style should work, it doesn't warrant deletion. This said, some of these can definitely be further paraphrased and/or merged since they were written and are mostly unchanged from a bygone era of Wikipedia. Personally, I always figured we'd get to these after repairing the main ideology and country articles. Happy to discuss any of these in isolation, which I believe would be most productive. czar13:11, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
I'm with czar here. It's a bit funny to me that these stand out as "suspect" topics on wikipedia, since these are, well, exactly the kind of topics you'd expect to see in an actual print encyclopedia! Of course, actual print encyclopedias tend to be written by expert contributors under the aegis of an editorial board, so there's that. I hear you, Grnrchst, about The time allocated for running scripts has expired. - but I don't think this is much different from how every article used to have "in pop culture" shoved into the bottom. That is to say, I think that kind of cruft is just an artifact of how wikipedia is a work in progress, and the cure is simply to write a better article. Easier said than done but that doesn't mean it's not worth doing.
Here is the full list of anarchism articles in need of cleanup. Below is a subset for focus during the cleanup drive. Strike out completed items with The time allocated for running scripts has expired. and we'll add more sections as we go.
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Biographies of living persons (10)
These articles have any cleanup tag but are high priority because we hold biographies on living people to a higher standard
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Search for the passages tagged with The time allocated for running scripts has expired. or The time allocated for running scripts has expired., which indicate that another editor has requested that our article content is verifiable in the citation. If verified, say so in your edit summary and remove the tag. If not verified, either bring the discrepancy to the talk page or resolve the discrepancy yourself by rephrasing or removing content.
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Our cleanup backlog has grown since the last drive, so thought we could kickoff another push for the month of May. There are currently 228 articles tagged in total with 386 tagged issues. Can we get it down to zero?
For a place to start, I thought biographies of living people (BLPs) and articles in need of citations would be good. To cross off finished items from the list, there is a link above to edit the section (so as not to bother watchers of this page). Open to any other ideas here as well to make it interesting. Perhaps we should set up a mailing list for editors who have participated in the project previously?
If this is your first time participating in a cleanup drive on Wikipedia, (1) you're invited to be bold and try your best to resolve cleanup issues, and (2) if you have any questions or need a hand, please respond below and someone will help! czar14:36, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
Oof, there is a lot of work to do on some of these articles. Some should be simple enough to fix but damn, others have much deeper problems that I'm not sure simply addressing the CN tags will solve. --Grnrchst (talk) 09:42, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
Addressing the The time allocated for running scripts has expired. tags is enough to remove it from this list but if an article needs more support, feel free to bring it to discussion so others can chip in too. czar03:10, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Well, we can't fix everything all at once. It's a work in progress. As much as I'd like to fix everything everywhere, as long as we don't have falsehoods or policy violations hanging around... it's ok that some things are a bit crap. -- asilvering (talk) 03:38, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
@Czar: Hey, we seem to have gone way over the limit of templates on one page, which I think has come down to both the cleanup drive transclusion and the recent literature transclusion having introduced a lot more than the page can handle. I manually archived a section and removed a bunch of templates from another, but this problem still persists. I think we may need to consider that striking every resolved entry, rather than simply removing it from the list, is causing problems of its own. --Grnrchst (talk) 08:43, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
Ok no, after doing a bunch of archivals and changes, then just fiddling around with removing random hings, I identified the newly-added "Recent stubs" template as the source of the problem. I have temporarily removed it, just so the entire page doesn't break. We need to figure out what went wrong with it before we add it back in. --Grnrchst (talk) 09:07, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
Ooh we're close to finishing this one off! Don't know how much time I can spend on this area this month, as my attentions are focused on the Women in Green edit-a-thon, but I hope we'll be able to address these last few before the end of the unsourced statements drive. :) --Grnrchst (talk) 09:31, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
No problem, I just thought I could help since I know Danish and could get Danish sources. There's still room for improvement in the article :) //Replayful (talk | contribs) 14:55, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Just finished the last few articles needing citations and/or footnotes. I'll let the cleanup listing reset this week and add some new targets. I think this week will be a big drop in cleanup issue count and we're already halfway (54%) to goal. czar00:54, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
We're two thirds (67%) of our way to goal! New cleanup tags added for your consideration above: Factual verification needed and Unreliable source cited. Take a peek and if you struggle with any article, bring it here for discussion as you're likely not alone. czar04:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
This has unfortunately resulted in quite a few articles being stubbified, which has reversed some of the progress we made with the stub expansion drive. So if anyone has the time and energy to expand some of these stubs, that'd be appreciated. --Grnrchst (talk) 10:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
We're 85% to goal! Very close to a historical low number of cleanup tasks (56 remain and low is 53, from the 2019 drive). I'll pick up some expansions again once we're down to zero. The way I see it, those articles were stubs but just weren't classified correctly, beneath the cleanup tags and unverified material. czar12:52, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
Seeing those articles as already stubs is a good way of looking at it. Amazing to see the cleanup backlog down so low! There's only a dozen or so left, which has put it down to a fraction of a percentage point! Excellent work on getting through this, to you and everyone else involved. --Grnrchst (talk) 08:13, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Challenges
There are a few cleanups that look particularly challenging and I thought I'd list them here for consideration separate from the list above, in case someone is interested in a meatier project. czar16:20, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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🎊🎊 100%! We're officially at zero cleanup items—the first time in three cleanup drives since 2017, with over 2200 issues addressed. Since 2017, our scope has tripled to nearly 3000 articles on the strength of new translations, new articles, and revisiting and retagging decades-old articles up to today's standards. Some of these final cleanup items were pretty dense challenges looming for over seven years. Congrats to all contributors and looking forward to the next community drive. czar17:24, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Huzzah! Congrats to everyone who's been banging away at this for months and months. I hope I am finally forgiven for adding all those anarchist biographies a few years back, haha. -- asilvering (talk) 23:39, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
Timelines on country articles
Do we need Timeline sections on the "anarchism in X country" articles? Since they were added to a few lately (for example) I figured we should discuss before continuing. I'm of two minds: Since they should be sourced to remain in the article, I think they're largely duplicative of what is already in the article. I can see the argument that it's a useful navigational aid, but I'd sooner see that as a sidebar in the related section than rehashing all of the events in the article. I think they make the most sense when the dates can otherwise span multiple articles, like Timeline of the Spanish Civil War or Chronology of the Paris Commune. Courtesy ping The time allocated for running scripts has expired.czar22:36, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
First I'd like to say that I am not a big fan of the timelines, even the ones I've made. If there is a better alternative I am in favour of it.
However, my issue is that there is a lot of information about anarchism across Wikipedia that cannot be easily accessed from a central place. So I think if the timelines were to be deleted and those bits of information were slowly added that could be good. AnarchistHistory (talk) 03:51, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
Those are very interesting - I wasn't aware of how good Outline of anarchism in particular is. Since you are both more experienced editors of Wikipedia I will defer to your judgement. I will probably do some work on Outline of anarchism soon. AnarchistHistory (talk) 09:59, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
If your aim is to improve navigability, which I think is a very important and valuable task to take on, then the outline and our various sidebars and bottombars are the way to go. I look forward to seeing the improvements you have in store for it! --Grnrchst (talk) 10:32, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
Believe it or not, the anarchism portal has 2k views/month. That's not huge compared to many articles, but it's miles and miles ahead of the views by page watchers (which is... 9. not a typo). -- asilvering (talk) 22:16, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
I had no idea the portal was that popular! Maybe we should do a wee drive to improve it then, because from the looks of it, it's definitely in need of some TLC. --Grnrchst (talk) 13:15, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Now that AH has explained their reasoning for including them is for navigability, I'm definitely questioning their inclusion more. So many of them seem to just be repeating information that's already in the article, which makes me question why they're needed at all (wouldn't this just make timelines a "see again" section?). Sometimes they introduce new information, but then I'm left wondering why that info hasn't been incorporated into the prose rather than shoved into an undetailed list. Also citations are completely absent from many entries in many of the lists, which carries its own set of problems.
We definitely could be taking more steps to improve navigability and simplify our presentation of information, but I don't think timelines in pre-existing regional history articles are the way to go about it. --Grnrchst (talk) 09:32, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
I think if the timeline grows long enough it'd be worth doing a content fork, ditto for the other sections in the outline. We'll see how AH's work on it goes :) --Grnrchst (talk) 08:51, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
I'm done with the timeline, but that's only because I'm not including events that I don't think are significant enough to warrant inclusion. If we were to include every time a major book was published or an anarchists was assassinated or executed... I'd be happy to do that but I feel like it could clutter that Outline of anarchism too much. AnarchistHistory (talk) 13:09, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Yes, ideally (imo) a timeline should only contain items that are parts of a larger narrative. That is, it should be reasonably apparent to a reader that the items link to each other in some way, which is a higher bar than simply assembling items that are about similar things or could be categorized in similar ways. They don't need to be so directly linked that each entry follows directly to the next (ie, "this happened, and so this happened"), but you'd want them to be related enough that you could write a narrative paragraph (or paragraphs) that included all of them without having to reach too far. -- asilvering (talk) 16:09, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
I think the best example of a timeline article on Wikipedia is likely Timeline of the far future. If there is a useful way to display the timeline events, perhaps in a multicolumn format (I'm thinking of a bibliography article on I can't remember), it could be worth splitting the timeline from the outline. For now, the outline article is likely sufficient. czar22:15, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
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Interlanguage links between Murder of Björn Söderberg with Björn Söderberg
@AnarchistHistory: This comes down to Wikidata categorisation. en-wiki's "Murder of Björn Söderberg" is categorised as an event, while the other wiki's "Björn Söderberg" articles are categorised separately as biographies, so they each have different separate wikidata entries. It does seem a little silly on the encyclopedia's end not to have these linked, but wikidata can be fickle about these things sometimes. --Grnrchst (talk) 11:40, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
This is strange. It should be possible to add it to the redirect - I recall a relatively recent discussion about that. -- asilvering (talk) 16:41, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
Okay, I sorted that out from the other direction (Swedish to English). Edit here. This could be fixed in the English-to-Swedish direction by creating a redirect page on sv-wiki called "Murder of Björn Söderberg" (but in Swedish) and doing the same type of edit, but since my Swedish knowledge is barely more than zero I'll leave that for someone else. -- asilvering (talk) 16:47, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
wikidata:Wikidata:Sitelinks to redirects is the Wikidata guidance on when and how to add an enwiki redirect as a sitelink on a Wikidata entry. What asilvering did and suggests sounds right but I've also seen Wikidata entries (perhaps mistakenly) just link the event as a sitelink under the biography's Wikidata entry. czar12:48, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
I'd say linking the event is a mistake these days, since it throws a bit of a wrench into the metadata. Wikidata metadata gets picked up everywhere, so we should be avoiding cludgy fixes where we can. This ability to add redirects to wikidata items is pretty new, so I'm sure there are loads and loads of articles out there still dependent on the cludgy version. -- asilvering (talk) 17:40, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
Hey all. Next month, October 2024, Women in Green is hosting the second edition of our Around the World in 31 Days edit-a-thon. The aim is to write and review good articles about women from at least 31 different countries. In case anyone else here is interested, I thought I'd repost another list of anarchist women from around the world, this time based on the highest number of interwiki links:
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If you fancy improving one of these articles, or even some others, I hope you take the opportunity to do so. You'll be able to find me coordinating the edit-a-thon and can ask any questions you have over at the event talk page. --Grnrchst (talk) 15:33, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Spanish anarchists
This category might need some TLC but I wanted to ask around. Some thoughts:
Remove Spanish anarcho-syndicalists and put everything in Spanish anarchists?
Rename Anarchists from Catalonia to Catalan anarchists?
Remove anarchists from the CNT members category, leaving the CNT members category for people not identified as anarchists who were in the CNT? Similar to how the FAUD in German anarchists and USI in Italian anarchists works.
Potentially add a new category for Basque anarchists?
This category definitely seems redundant. With the exception of Farga i Pellicer and Saperas Mirò, all the entries were members of the CNT. Feel free to submit it as a category for discussion.
I would oppose this, the CNT was an enormous organisation (and is still pretty big!) and its membership is independently notable as a category.
I'd go further and say we should have categories for each of the autonomous communities of Spain, following the lead of the Spanish Wikipedia's categories. This would help with the overlap between the Spanish anarchists and CNT members categories, as we could better sort between anarchists of different regions.
For #3, this strikes me as more likely to be a problem with the Germany/FAUD and Italian/USI categories than with Spanish/CNT. -- asilvering (talk) 15:55, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
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This might just be my own ignorance of Spain's nationalities then. I can begin work :)
Following the changes during the cleanup drive, we are almost back to our goal of <20% of articles being stubs. I thought I'd take the moment to draw attention to some of our most popular stubs, which receive many daily average pageviews (DAPV) and as such would benefit the most from expansion:
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As it currently stands, the List of anarchist movements by region links to about 90 articles covering anarchist movements by various regions. In the course of my research about anarchism I have found information on Asian anarchist movements in many places that exist outside of the listed places that are too small (in my opinion) to warrant their own article but in my opinion should still should have some kind of mention. This is already done in the Anarchism in Africa, which covers smaller anarchist movements that only have a couple of sources (Angola, Eswatini, Ethiopia, Kenya, Mozambique and so on).
The main country I have in mind for the moment is Lebanon. Which there is evidence for a limited anarchist movement in.
So I can see 4 possibilities
Create an article titled "Anarchism in Asia" - which I have experimented with in draftspace
I guess my question would be is whether there is enough information out there about these smaller movements to justify such a macro-article. The Anarchism in Africa article manages to put together at least a single decent-sized paragraph for each of its regions listed; is there enough out there for minor Asian movements to have multiple sections with at least one paragraph of information?
Also, while there have been books and articles written about anarchism from a pan-African perspective, I don't think I've come across many written from a pan-Asian perspective. Usually works on Asian anarchisms are more focused on specific regions (south Asia, east Asia, etc.) rather than the Asian continent as a whole. --Grnrchst (talk) 08:31, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
Hellos AnarchistHistory :) Grnrchst raises a good point about pan-African anarchism vs pan-Asian activism, but I would still say it's better to make an overview Anarchism in Asia then spin-off individual countries, than to start with regions. There would seem to be enough to make an article sized contribution, since just off the top of my head I can think about movements in South Korea and Indonesia. I took a peek at your draft AnarchistHistory, since anyone can view it. I see parallels with some of my Squatting in X drafts such as Wikipedia:WikiProject_Squatting/Draft/Squatting_in_Asia, but I'm not sure if it makes sense to go live with a header for each country. Perhaps it's better to start like that then pull the countries together for which info exists into broader areas, which I have started to do topdown at Squatting, with the vague objective to then get to continental pages Squatting in North America feeding on to individual countries, of which quite a lot now exist (ever wondered about Squatting in Vanuatu? well, luckily wikipedia has an article on that). It's an interesting question how to expand articles, I don't think there's any one "right" way here. Certainly in terms of countering systemic bias any work on anarchisms in Asia is to be appreciated. Mujinga (talk) 10:27, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
@Grnrchst then I can see the perspective against an "Anarchism in Asia" article, but what about reworking "List of anarchist movements by region" to include summaries of anarchist movements? AnarchistHistory (talk) 13:36, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Hello! I've set up a new WikiProject, Housing and Tenant Rights :)
I'm adding a message here since it could be of interest to your group.
If you are please feel free to add your name to the page, we already have a couple who have joined. The main focus will be covering tenant strikes, tenants unions, tenants rights, and more. Documenting the history of land ownership and tenant advocacy. Thanks! - LoomCreek (talk) 02:36, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
