@Kvng: Wouldn't it make sense to mention PROD first and use AFD if contested or controversial/complicated. See Template:Please prod. Normally if you can't confirm a topic exists its appropriate to PROD because even if its not a hoax its probably not notable. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:48, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kvng: It says that they are generally not speedy deletion candidates but that doesn't mean they need to go to AFD. If PRODed they can be checked by other users. There is nothing saying that they are controversial just that they generally aren't speedy deletion candidates. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:55, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]