User talk:Zinnober9/Archive 02


Thanks

Good report here or thereabouts. Thanks for keeping your eyes open! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:35, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Sophronius S. Landt

My apologies for my editing of the Sophronius S. Landt article; the Wisconsin Blue Book 1895, pg. 673, biographical sketch of Sophronius Landt mentioned he lived in the village of Friendship, Wisconsin in Adams County, Wisconsin. I should had been more clearer with the editing and I apologized and take full responsibility. I have rewrote the sentence and acknowledged your good faith edit. Again my apologies. Thank you-RFD (talk) 22:49, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

No problem. You know Wisconsin better than I do, but I'd learned just enough from fixing some other articles with the same clarification need that you helped with right before, so I figured you'd gotten the wires crossed with the name and the county on that edit. Thank you for knowing/finding a source that specified which the correct one was. Best wishes! Zinnober9 (talk) 06:16, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Thank You-RFD (talk) 10:30, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, about your accusation of a block evasion

To my knowledge, I never evaded a block. I created an account from my IP address that another user who had harassed me for more than a year now had an issue with, to open up a more consistent channel of discussion. I had made my edits, and many of them have been left up for months at a time, with collaborative edits by a number of other users, on the fashion section of 2010s in culture, as well as in Fashion design and Street Style. Other edits of mine were categorizations and mere typo corrections. Many of the edits I've made that you've reverted were literally corrections of grammatical errors. Which makes no sense.

That page has information that has been there for months now, and it’s kept to the standards of other editors who have edited those pages. Do you have another reason for reverting all of my edits? Binksternet even deleted content other users added, that included some of my content, to attack me. He swore at me on my talk page, accused me of racism, deleted other people's content, and held my content to standards not matched by the rest of the page. If you disagree with anything I've added or altered, please use the talk page first. Thank you. Velvetlaptop (talk) 01:50, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Above user is a now confirmed sockpuppet and should be ignored in all matters except if needed for further socking evidence. Zinnober9 (talk) 04:26, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Conflict of interest guide

Thank you Zinnober9! I am NEW to editing and am trying to minimally update the Citylink wiki page so it's factual. I will only update facts and not remove controversial things (even tho it's tempting lol) CitylinkIdahoKC (talk) 19:16, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Correct typos in one click

New list arrived, every feedback is appreciated. Uziel302 (talk) 18:37, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Frostbite revert

RE: this revert I'll try and be a bit more descriptive in my antivandalism edit summaries, sorry CiphriusKane (talk) 01:46, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

@CiphriusKane: My apologies, I was a bit too quick on the button. Your edit came up in red on the recent changes page and was tagged vandalism, so I thought it was, but after I clicked revert, I realized your edit was reverting the previous editor's vandalism and yours was valid. A clear edit summary is very helpful, so that would be great, but I messed up on this one. Thank you for your antivandalism editing! Zinnober9 (talk) 02:08, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Revert of talk page warnings

Hi Zinnober9! I saw that you made this edit to KillTimeEO's user talk page. Although I agree that the edit is very... "trollsy" (and strange, as you put it), users, by policy, are allowed to remove warnings from their own user talk pages. The things that they can't remove would be declined unblock requests regarding a block that's currently active, and some other things. Yeah, don't worry if you didn't know about this policy. I found out about it the exact same way that you're probably finding out about it now... someone had to message me and tell me. :-) Anyways, I thought I'd let you know. Cheers! ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:49, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

  • @Oshwah: I was aware of that, but I was thinking that the use of their fowl language superseded that, and I mighta gotten a little trigger happy after I saw they'd refactored the first editor's comment earlier this evening. I appreciate your message however, as not all know about that, as is clear from some of the other editors this evening editing that page. I hope my last edit statement on their page helps calm things in that manner. Zinnober9 (talk) 03:45, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
No worries, it happens to the best of us. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:27, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Another thank you

Sad that people like the one that edited Ed Gein COD to Covid 19 do not take Wikipedia as serious as those of us who care. Good catch. Thank you. -- Naaman Brown (talk) 15:53, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Thank you for your efforts in stopping vandalism! Necctaylor (chat) 21:28, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Need assistance

My talk page is being continually reverted back and "vandalized" by 47.241.192.40. Please assist me to get rid of this user. Mr. Pekka Stranker (talk) 06:32, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

I've already reported that IP for vandalism. Nothing I can do further, and I'm sorry they're harassing you. Just ignore them for the time being, and after they've been blocked, you can return your talk page to how you'd like it. Zinnober9 (talk) 06:40, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

I'm a bit confused this edit; I think the "heights" parameter is plural; Help:Gallery tag#Attributes and values lists it as "heights", and the singular "height" has no effect. Am I misunderstanding something? HLHJ (talk) 02:34, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

@HLHJ: Huh. I've never seen that page before, and it would explain why I keep finding so many pages with it when Template:Gallery never mentions it as an option. It's always appeared to me to be broken syntax when plural on pages, since the images are quite large and unruly, or aren't following the size set, but if it is actual syntax and used for a purpose, then I'm at fault and need to learn about that. Thanks for pointing that out, I'll mull it over and test some things. If you were to ask about it in a help or talk page setting in the next day or two, would you ping me? Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Zinnober9 (talk) 03:58, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
No problem. There is a difference between the template galleries starting "{{Gallery" and the tagged galleries in "<gallery>... </gallery>" tags; it's a bit confusing, but they are completely separate. I prefer tag galleries as they require a lot less typing-in of formatting characters. I only wish I could justify tag galleries and flow text around them, as Template:Multiple image is worse (perhaps I should ask about that, and if I do I'll tag you, but I suspect it's technically problematic). I was using a large height so that the reader could see the captioned details in each image without clicking on each to enlarge it, but perhaps they were a bit big. I'll use a more moderate size. HLHJ (talk) 13:48, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

ubl in The Sound of the Mountain

Hi, I've already commented on your question on the Template_talk:Unbulleted_list talk page. Could you use "unbulleted list" instead of "ubl" and see if the error persists? No use when I do this, because I don't get the mentioned error. --Robert Kerber (talk) 18:37, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply

I will reply to talk page and wait for a consensus. Thank you for your help thus far. OsagePizza72 (talk) 15:21, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

G13

Hi Zinnober9, I've noticed that you have been tagging some user subpages marked with {{Userspace draft}} for deletion using {{db-afc}}. Please note that WP:G13 only applies to userspace if it is tagged with {{AFC submission}} or contains article wizard placeholder text only. WP:ABANDON#Stale userspace drafts suggests how to handle the type of drafts you have been tagging. Thank you. ✗plicit 00:08, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. Zinnober9 (talk) 22:13, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Your disaster of an edit

I hope you have realized by now how how damaging and wrong this edit back in June was! Yes, it does make a difference. I have spent some minutes reverting half of it - please finish the job. Johnbod (talk) 16:31, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

This was explained far more nicely in the "Gallery size parameter" section above, and since that other explanation, I have not resumed any corrections of such. Because you called me an idiot in your edit summaries on Sculpture, no, I will not "finish the job" to restore it to your visual preference. Zinnober9 (talk) 17:30, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

I’m new

I was just testing wiki, I want to help create more wildcards content, wanna help? Crackfloor (talk) 17:33, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Regarding the other account

F.Y.i that’s just my brothers account so I don’t control it or have anything to do with it but I can talk to him for you if you want AngeredTrash710 (talk) 22:40, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

It would be wise for you and he to ignore each other on Wikipedia and not edit the same articles together, upload the same images, or mess about with each other's userpages. Otherwise it will give the impression of sockpuppeting/coordinated edits, which are against the site rules, and you and he might be blocked for such if that continues. Cheers, and happy editing. Zinnober9 (talk) 22:52, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Unfortunately

Please remove the defamation information regarding any ‘sexual accusations’ from The Posies page. This information is to be taken down LittleMermaid23 (talk) 04:56, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

No, I will not remove sourced content you object to. I've replied on your talk page, but I'll repeat my main comments here too:
The current writeup about the allegations and the fallout (band members leaving) is well sourced and has been addressed by the Band and Stringfellow directly. And will remain on the articles regardless of outcome from these accusations. Stringfellow addressed the claims on his Twitter here where he doesn't agree with the claims, but that he does claim fault at "creating conditions where people could be upset and emotionally hurt". Regardless of if the allegations are true or not, the chain of events of the accusations and the band splitting up are noteworthy and worth keeping. Additionally, Wikipedia is not censored WP:NOTCENSORED "and may contain content that some readers consider objectionable or offensive‍".
and
No, I have not and will not be removing the content you object to. Additionally, how is being married to Dominique and not living in France relevant to your argument? You can be married and have sexual accusations launched against you. Additionally, if we say the band dissolved in 2021, you'd need to give a reason why, and that reason is the allegations against Stringfellow. You can't just bypass the major source of the dissolution. As for the not living in France part, that is in the subsection "Comeback and Every Kind of Light (2001–09)" on the Band's page, so I'd bet he was living in France during those years. I will agree to edit the tense of the statement, but I will NOT remove it. Zinnober9 (talk) 05:56, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

== July 2022 ==

Information icon Welcome, and thank you for your attempt to lighten up Wikipedia. However, this is an encyclopedia, and articles are intended to be serious, so please don't make joke edits. Readers looking for accurate information will not find them amusing. If you'd like to experiment with editing, please use your sandbox instead, where you are given a certain degree of freedom in what you write. Test message, no issues or warnings for user (aka me). Testing if there's an issue with the headers having extra == Zinnober9 (talk) 20:18, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

August 2022

Thank you so much for defending people who vandalize wikipedia :). After what you've told me I will try and make them vandalizers comfortable here. You are such an inspiring person. PolarWafflez🐶 (talk) 20:31, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

I'm not defending them, but you don't need to further antagonize (or bludgon) them when they've already been warned. Edits like when you called us idiots is not appropriate. Zinnober9 (talk) 21:54, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Don't spoil humanity to be inhuman.Follow constitution

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Group I proved.you don't have any prove and working against humanity to be unconstitutional.please check the definition of group and make the correction — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.67.56.10 (talk) 02:45, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Your edits make zero sense and keep breaking wikilinks, or are misquotes of quoted material. Even your comment here makes zero sense. If you are trying to gain a consensus for a change, use the talk pages. Until then, you don't have a consensus. Zinnober9 (talk) 02:55, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Your sentence have no sense and no proof with the quoted statement.Are you proving any thing by telling this,no you are just doing a private illegal business to gain individual benefits.I have proved with the given statement and definition are not not of my own.You gave no proof and write of your own.Prove it if you think you are an admin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.67.103.236 (talk) 03:23, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

An ANI report that may interest you

See [1]. Thanks for keeping on this. 2601:19E:4180:6D50:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:06, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, that is of interest. I'll add my comments in a moment. Zinnober9 (talk) 04:20, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Garden Court Apartments edit

Please don't re-reverse my edit about which unit J Harrington Walker inhabited. I live in the actual unit, and have copies of original architectural drawings proving ownership KnnNike (talk) 02:10, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

I don't object to the content, but the source already on the article doesn't give that level of detail, and you haven't provided a reliable source stating such that others can independently verify. That lack of sourcing is what I object to. Zinnober9 (talk) 16:34, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Disruptive Editor

This user has been warned on multiple occasions and even blocked and yet he still continues to disrupt this website. He’s vandalized pages, adding his own information (many times made up by himself) and refused to cite. He has also made personal attacks against editors. Including on my own page. User:Nickiandyeoutsold has continued to show a lack of care and I’m asking for further action to be taken. He’s been warned before and even blocked, yet nothing changes. I’m asking for a permanent block on this disruptive user. His talk page is full of warnings and even a discussion with me, in which he responded with a variety of insults. He would later copy and paste this response and put it on my talk page too. This user needs to be taken care of. Zvig47 (talk) 17:21, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

I have NO authority to block (the only special power I have is pending changes reviewer which only is for articles), so you'll want to take this to WP:AIV where you can report them for all that, and those that have the power to assist you, will. I don't recall ever encountering that user since April (when I gave them an edit warring warning), and I've made hundreds of edits since then, so I know nothing about them now or any of current issues you are having. May I ask how you came to think I had administrative powers? You aren't the first to think this recently, and while I'm flattered, I'm also baffled by the confusion. Zinnober9 (talk) 19:11, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Suggestion

When fixing font tags with the "font size" tag, you DON'T just leave the number as is, otherwise you would change the font size. As always, try to preserve the appearance of the page. You can see the replacements here.

i.e. when fixing something like <font size="2"> or <font size="-1">, you change it to <span style="font-size:small;">.Sheep (talk) 20:25, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

@Sheep8144402 Ah, thank you! I saw one or two of those yesterday and realized that the +-X weren't working in span style, so was starting to avoid picking pages to fix where those occurred until I figured them out. I'll go and see if I need to make any corrections to yesterday's edits. Appreciate it! Zinnober9 (talk) 23:10, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

thanks for the template edit

hey thanks for editing the dark side of the moon template noofus talk 12:12, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Breaking category?

Categories should be assessed as NA, and certainly not Top. How does changing that "break" the "template"? Abductive (reasoning) 07:32, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

@Abductive Your edit appeared as though you did a replacement of all instances of the word "top" and changed them to NA, and in doing so, you broke the {{archive top}} and changed regular words within sentences to NA.
Please use edit summaries, as I had no clear idea what you were going for. If you'd said something about updating the temp to NA assessment, that would have clued me in and I'd have just corrected the collateral damage, but there was no clear indication of intentions. Zinnober9 (talk) 07:42, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
I see. Abductive (reasoning) 08:42, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

sir please re edit the page garhi harsaru i have written everything right please sir

do it i will pleased of you Bhavesh Shiva (talk) 03:12, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Template talk:Interlanguage link/Archive 1

I see that on November 18, 2022, you edited Template talk:Interlanguage link/Archive 1 and then reverted your edit with summary

Interlanguage link multi doesn't like being within <code> Will rethink correction.

I just edited the same talk page and I made a similar fix to your first try, and I think it's OK, but if you see something wrong with my version, please let me know. I think the reduced blank lines is an improvement that preserves the original intent with greater clarity. —Anomalocaris (talk) 02:43, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

@Anomalocaris Ah, it seems I misidentified the error result I had from my edit there. Interlanguage link multi works by itself in <code> when I tested it in my sandbox today, so it must have been the multi lines/line breaks that broke it in my edit (Thinking back, I think I tested it including the " *<code>Number 2,a... ...was interested in</code>" part, so the line break threw me off). Thank you for correcting it and letting me know.
While on the topic of rethinking of lint issues, I and Jonesey95 seem to be stumped by this other issue. Curious if you have any ideas for it.
Template talk:Infobox officeholder/Archive 6 claims to have a fostered content issue. The {{Infobox Officeholder/Office}} and {{Infobox person|child=yes}} portions are clean by themselves, and the infobox vcard is clean by itself, but when vcard has any of the Infobox portions below it, it throws a fostered content error for some reason. I mentioned it Dec 2 on the Lint talk page at the end of the Non-Replicatable section). If you've already seen this error and don't have any idea, that's fine. Just thought I'd run it by you since solved the above puzzlement and some others I've gotten stuck on. Cheers, Zinnober9 (talk) 09:25, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Cite errors

hello, hope you're well. I'm learning about citing, new templates, new technology, every day. I'm hoping you can help me learn more

one of the issues-template entries of a page I edited was unclear citation style. I remember from college using MLA, and I find it odd that it's not exactly easy to use that style on wikipedia

in example to start, in-text parenthetical citations are deprecated on wp. and I'm all for that, browsing with a mouse, however, I think it might not be good for paper-printed reading. the "r-style" colon-location superscript, personally, I don't like, simply because of font-size being lowered. plus, it is harder to "bundle" citations, which is something I just found out is a thing. anyway, the shortened footnote template also has difficulty with bundling

the harvard citation templates default to using author and date, which is different to MLA, which can use author, or author and title. I learned about the trick of setting an anchor with the author and title, and leaving harvard citation templates' year parameter empty to workaround this. great

now, the full citations themselves. the templates like cite web, I learned are citation style 1, which uses periods between citation elements, different to MLA 9, which uses some periods, but luckily, commas primarily now. citation style 2 (template:citation) uses commas, but I think only commas. luckily, there's the wikicite template to create anchor-ed citations. and further luck, I found the space separated entries template, to keep data on multiple lines, to keep it readable while editing. however, I saw that you found an issue with how I used these

I don't understand what is the issue, though. I don't mean to contradict; I hope I've shown just now how I am wanting to learn about this all. would you describe the issue you've encountered? and, do you have a thought on what is causing it? is it wikicite? or the combination of wikicite and space separated entries template? or was it not those, but rather, something else I did?

thank you for any help you can give. I hope you have a nice day

sincerely, 104.33.102.225 (talk) 06:46, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

I remembered that I forgot about this part of wikicite:

[I]f using |ref=, the specified content for this parameter must be enclosed in quotes unless it consists entirely of letters, figures, hyphens and periods. If it contains any other character - such as a blank or underscore - it must be quoted. (e.g., a ref anchor of Von Autor-2006 must be specified as |ref="Von Autor-2006")

do you think this might be causing the issue? article named do have spaces turned to underscores by harvid template
104.33.102.225 (talk) 07:28, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
nevermind about this. I believe that the issue is whitespace within the wikicite template, specifically the reference parameter (which can be, and was, unnamed). here's what I mean:
*{{wikicite
|<CITATION>_
___|ref={{harvid|<AUTHOR>}}
}}
I think that by adding a pipe, the error can be fixed:
*{{wikicite
|<CITATION>|_
___|ref={{harvid|<AUTHOR>}}
}}
and to be more clear:
*{{wikicite
|{{space list
|<CITATION ELEMENT 1>
|<CITATION ELEMENT 2>
|...
|<CITATION ELEMENT LAST>
}}|_
___|ref={{harvid|<AUTHOR>}}
}}
I found out about lint just accidentally, clicking on Page information, on the left of the article, and going down to bottom of page. There's the link "Lint errors on page." That's gives some clarity to the edit description you posted.
Let me know what you think about this.
104.33.102.225 (talk) 10:17, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
IP editor, please read WP:CITEVAR. It is generally not acceptable to change the established citation format of an article without prior discussion. Converting templated citations to what are essentially plain-text citations also removes citation metadata and eliminates automated error-checking of those citations. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:14, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
as I alluded to above, before I started editing the page, there was an unclear citation style issues-header. I have been the primary editor for the page, and I've been learning. why I or one would choose to go with a certain citation style might be an interesting discussion I'd want to read, but what I had decided was MLA, and technology knowledge was preventing that implementation, causing evolution within the page
I honestly prefer to follow set styles to choosing my own (existential dread, decision fatigue), though I do give a vote for MLA, simply from mentioned bias of inertia from school. xkcd.com/927/ "it is used in school" is just as valid as "it is used in wikipedia," I do understand. and I do also acknowledge the benefits of automated error-checking, and less so, metadata (I don't understand how it's accessed and used, again technology). to me ideal would be an option in cite web template for |style=mla, or |style=apa, etc; and even more ideal, if a page could set it at top, and then the template can use it (less redundant, and more sure way of getting it). I think I've seen this happen with dates, where I've used yyyy-mm-dd and in british style it became d mmm yyyy, I believe
anyway, it's just been fun to learn, and I think this is the only way things will stick in a head like mine, is through experiences. hope it sticks
104.33.102.225 (talk) 22:08, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
IP editor, thank you for contacting me. I must confess that the Wikicite template is not something I am well versed in how to use, so while I could identify the errors from its usage last night, I could not address your questions above or provide a solution. This morning, the more I looked at the template, the more I was confused to how and why it's used, so thank you @Jonesey95 for your assistance on this matter. Happy holidays to you both. Zinnober9 (talk) 01:49, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

Gnoming in Signpost archives

I thank you greatly for fixing the small tags that had gotten messed up on my AWB run -- I thought I had gone back and caught them all. Are you working off a database report, or some tool that provides a list of all broken tags? If so, I would like to see it as well; I've been making a shitload of edits on back issues today and I am not sure that I have caught all the errors.

By the way, if you are interested in doing a large volume of fairly boring (but necessary) edits, I have a treasure trove of them. jp×g 04:53, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

@JPxG If the messed up tags were selfclosing smalls (<small/>), then they are all repaired and weren't but a few (Selfclosing tags are not infrequent, but are a well maintained error; usually none to very few running across the site, and they don't last long with various editors pouncing on them quickly).
I have a few links for you it seems! :)
WP:LINT (the project's page)
The "lint" errors listed on Wikipedia (max count of each type of error per article page caps out at 21)
The main page I use is https://fireflytools.toolforge.org/fireflytools/linter/enwiki which is just the errors listed in the previous link, but broken down by namespace for a condensed, more exact, count of each error type (updates every 15 minutes). This is how I spotted the three Signpost errors you speak of.
I also utilize the Page Information of various pages (link under Tools on the left side of the site) in conjunction with these, since many pages have multiple types of errors, and I like to clear a page in preferably one edit. If there are any errors, there will be a "Lint errors" section like this at the bottom with a count of each type. If there are errors, then I use the last link, Lint errors on page, in the External Tools section just below it for the listout of all errors of all types on this specific page, along with some extra info, (obsolete font, missing end tag (b), etc). Most I can find with Ctrl+F while editing a page, but some errors get sneaky, and the link to the error it provides (I'd open it in a new tab) helps me find some the location on page of some things. The listout also serves as safety net/check for me after I've edited a page.
I'd be interested in knowing what sort of things you have. While I am content with the focuses of lint I've been cleaning so far, I do enjoy some variation, and need a change of task/scenery/etc every so often. Zinnober9 (talk) 07:58, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

px values are invalid in image galleries

These errors were probably all cleaned up before you started your de-linting work. See the last bullet at mw:Help:Lint_errors/bogus-image-options for invalid options in gallery tags. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:30, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Be careful with manual Linter replacements

The replacements for User:Kaiba in this edit did not work. The opening span tags were missing a quote mark, the closing tags were missing a >, and a font size of 3 pt should probably have been replaced with small, not medium. Are you using scripts or just typing? If the latter, you need to inspect your results very carefully for typos, and make sure to use LintHint before your save. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:17, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

I hadn't gotten LintHint to work in attempts past, but I figured it out today and it's working for me now. Will utilize that in my edits as an added safeguard. I had unexpected interruption and I messed up last night. I appreciate you catching those. Zinnober9 (talk) 20:16, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
I'm glad you got it working. It doesn't work for every single error, but it is helpful for catching remaining errors and highlighting typos that I have made before saving. It is also helpful for highlighting the text containing an error, unless that text is wrapped in a template like {{archive top}} or similar, in which case you need to depend on the syntax highlighter or Special:ExpandTemplates. Isn't this fun? – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:35, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
Yeah, I've gotten so that if something is in a wrapper and isn't something I immediately spot, or is something I suspect there are multiples of (since they tend to only flag the first within the wrapper) I copy that potion of the text minus the wrappers to my sandbox and figure it out in the sandbox. Zinnober9 (talk) 20:58, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Notes about center

Hey! This is just a reminder that, when adding the {{center}} template, you need to be careful about how you implement it. Center can only take one argument, being the input text, and any other arguments it receives are essentially lost (not displayed). Some text can have an = in it, such as inside a html tag. This means that when you attempt to do something like {{center|<span style="color:#ABC">Test</span>}}, the software attempts to treat this as you saying the arg <span style= has the value "color:#ABC">Test</span>. The template doesn't know how to handle that, and so nothing gets displayed. To fix this, you should put 1= at the start. For a visual example of the effect this has, compare this section before and after 1= was added.

Generally, the main times this becomes a concern is when the equals is part of a link (E.g. [https://example.com?a=b]), html tag (see above), or just regular text. Any equals sign that is inside of a sub-template shouldn't be a problem. If you aren't sure if something needs it, hit Show Preview and look for any preview warning messages where the center templates are or for the Pages using center with no arguments category. Don't worry, I've already cleaned up any cases of this before, so there's no need to go back. This is just a note for the future. Aidan9382 (talk) 08:58, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Yep, thanks. I run across that every now and then, but infrequently enough that it catches me offguard at times. Thanks for the correction, sorry for the error. Zinnober9 (talk) 09:23, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
Thanks for all you do on talk pages! I especially like seeing you remove WP:NOTAFORUM violations. Zoe Trent Fan🎤💍 21:27, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

List of 2023 MNL statistics moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, List of 2023 MNL statistics, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more in-depth coverage about the subject itself, with citations from reliable, independent sources in order to show it meets WP:GNG. It should have at least three, to be safe. And please remember that interviews, as primary sources, do not count towards GNG. Please see WP:NOTSTATS.(?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page.Onel5969 TT me 12:11, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

@Onel5969 I have zero personal interest in the page and do not want the draft. I found that 2023 Myanmar National League was overrun by that weekly statistical data, and that for the 2022 season, it had a similar standalone page for the weekly breakdown with similar level of sourcing, so I moved it out to its own page in the hopes that the people interested in the subject would complete the page to satisfaction.
If the only thing needed is two more sources, I could attempt to find two sources to meet GNG, but otherwise I have no further interest in the page, and only created it for the page overflow need. The main thing that I do not want to see is this weekly breakdown of data returning to the 2023 Myanmar National League page.
Otherwise if the page needs more work than that, I'm happy to release the page to a public draft, or you may give it to User:Vilnae867 since they worked on and updated the page quite a bit. Zinnober9 (talk) 15:38, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Template talk:Did you know/Tapis (Indonesian weaving style)

Your edit of 03:51, 24 January 2023 (UTC) of Template talk:Did you know/Tapis (Indonesian weaving style) may have resulted in a stripped </div> tag in Template talk:Did you know daily log/2011 August 6. ExpandTemplates with the markup

{{Template talk:Did you know/Tapis (Indonesian weaving style)}}

results in very little output and includes the stripped tag. —Anomalocaris (talk) 19:11, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

I was aware of that at the time, but had since forgotten. Thank you. I wasn't sure why it did that (and I feel like it was just as broken appearing before I changed things). At the time, I had looked at other similar pages appearing on that August page for the IF statement format used and applied it to Tapis since it was missing. Since it fixed Tapis, and left August in better condition than when I found it, I moved on thinking to come back later if I had an idea, or if someone else found a solution before I did.
Out of curiosity just now, I removed a set of inner noincludes that weren't appearing in other cases, and that has cleared the div error on August, and the entry is appearing on August as others do, so I think this works. While I don't fully know why that fixed it, my guess is that the inner set of noincludes were messing with the noincludes in the IF statements. Hopefully this adjustment hasn't caused something else. It's comforting that it looks like the other entries in both places though. Zinnober9 (talk) 20:06, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
Right, I don't think <noinclude>...</noinclude> should nest inside <noinclude>...</noinclude>, so removing the inner ones makes sense. Thank you for taking care of this. —Anomalocaris (talk) 22:47, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of List of 2023 MNL statistics for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of 2023 MNL statistics is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of 2023 MNL statistics until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

Robert McClenon (talk) 00:15, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon As I've stated previously, (three sections above here), I have zero interest in this page. I created it out of necessity to move this overwhelmingly long content out of 2023 Myanmar National League, as it swallowed up the page. I saw that 2022 season had a similar setup page, so I moved the 2023 content to a new page. That's it. End of story. Stop messaging me about this page.
@Vilnae867 is the major contributor to this page and has the interest. I do not. If there is a way to relinquish whatever "creatorship/ownership" of this page to them, I'm happy to do so.
Zinnober9 (talk) 00:47, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
User:Zinnober9 - Yes. We know. We know. I get such messages from time to time saying that my drafts are about to be deleted, and I didn't create the drafts, but only renamed them. I am sure that User:Onel5969 gets similar stupid messages. The messages are generated automatically by Twinkle, which semi-automates all sorts of notification tasks, and usually gets them right. If the messages really bother you, you can delete them, or you can move them to the user page of User:Vilnae867. Twinkle gets the originator right more often than it gets it wrong; you can ridicule them if you want to. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:01, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
Thank you. Not frustrated with you, just frustrated by this one page and it's progress since. I appreciate your reply, and hope you have a wonderful weekend. Zinnober9 (talk) 01:12, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
I spent my time to register this Statistics. Do you think it is easy to register? Who is scored, who is assist? Why so serious? I just tried to find the source. aright you are genius. Vilnae867 (talk) 12:06, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
you deleted all my data ......f Vilnae867 (talk) 12:08, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
I deleted nothing. Reread the above. I moved existing content (changing nothing) to a new page, it got new page reviewed and failed to pass due to lack of sources and was nominated by the reviewer for deletion. Discuss with them, as I have no personal interest in this topic, and no interest in the discussion about keeping or removing these stats. Zinnober9 (talk) 23:44, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Cuprum17's talk page.

Well, I certainly don't want any lint errors on my talk page! Thank you for cleaning that up for me, I guess. I really don't see much difference, but then I am not versed on what a lint error is...anyway, have a great rest of your day! Cuprum17 (talk) 01:02, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

WP:Lint are minor syntax errors, or use of older code that is not HTML5 compliant, and most of the time correcting these errors won't change anything visually. Correcting lint would be the equivalent to dotting the "i"s and crossing the "t"s. Some visually noticeable errors I can think of off the top of my head are dropped italics/bold tags, or an unclosed text color/font/size that unintentionally changes everything after it.
The tidy font error though, which is how I discovered your page, is when links (usually signatures) are written in the <font>[[link]]</font> format with the color specified outside of the link. Browsers don't agree on how to display the colors written this way, and some browsers display it with the specified colors, others defaulting back to the standard link blue. This would have been the only possible issue I adjusted on your page that would have been visually possible to see, since the other things I adjusted were updating the outdated <center> to some HTML5 compliant alternatives. Zinnober9 (talk) 08:26, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Apology and a thank you

Hi Zinnober9. I recently saw you corrected a mistake I had made on series of page creations, * ]] *.

I've somehow missed that you were making all these corrections until now. I am currently going through the pages before I move them from draft to article, and checking if I have more of these errors.

However I just wanted to thank you for having corrected the errors, and wish you a nice evening :) Thomediter (talk) 23:19, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

I saw one set on Draft:Aakirkeby (Nomination district) (that I just took care of) but otherwise I don't see any other tracked syntax issues in the series, so I think what you've released so far should be all fine syntax-wise. Sorry if I sounded frustrated earlier, I just was surprised at how many there were, and had a few IRL things I was mulling over while editing. Thank you for your kind message, and I hope you have a great weekend! Zinnober9 (talk) 00:22, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Heyo!

Hi there! Nice to make your aquaintance and many thanks for helping me out with the signature. I was thinking I might try lower case letters... lol might as well give it a go!

thanks again friend! : ) ΤΕΡΡΑΣΙΔΙΩΣ(Ταλκ) 12:24, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

List of viceroys of New Spain

Take a look at your lintfix of List of viceroys of New Spain. You didn't account for the rowspan. I was working on the page at the same time, so I overwrote your version. —Anomalocaris (talk) 02:26, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Wikitables are so damn easy to mess up that they get even the best of us... Thanks for catching that. Zinnober9 (talk) 02:31, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
(edit conflict) When fixing fostered content lint errors, always look at the page history and find out what caused it. Just putting in a cell pipe or a table close might be the answer, but it might not. Gotta find out what went wrong first. Same is true for table tags to be deleted. —Anomalocaris (talk) 02:35, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Binibining Pilipinas 2023

Hello, Zinnober9,

Please do not tag expiring drafts early. We go by the time and date of the last human edit to the page and we're pretty strict about it because we have several admins and editors dealing with expiring drafts and we need to have some system to coordinate our efforts. We actually have a list we work with, User:SDZeroBot/G13 soon that is generated by a bot so nothing falls through the cracks. Thanks though for your help. Liz Read! Talk! 04:51, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

About your edit to Swan Thong

Hey Zinnober9, I'm the AfC reviewer who tagged that page under CSD G6. I've accepted the draft due to the significant improvements that were made after the declines. With that in mind, I'd ask you to self-revert your removal of the tag so I can make the page move. Thanks! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 02:17, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, misread the situation. I thought on initial glance that you were the draft's main author and thought it was just a new editor being a bit premature trying to delete the current redirect when draft was still in incubation. I see now that you are a well respected reviewer, and didn't realize this was a normal step in this process (had thought it was a one click multi process thing).
I've reverted myself, sorry about that. My main focus of the page had been the weird Multiline HTML table in list syntax error that was somehow created by having those two templates following after each other. Since the page will be replaced soon, I can live with that error existing for a little while. Zinnober9 (talk) 02:37, 26 November 2023 (UTC)