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Typo in title
You might be interested in the "moving pages" feature. See WP:MM--all you have to do is click on the word "move" at the top of the article that needs moved. NickelShoe (Talk) 05:05, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Edits
It's not really hassle, simply giving you some information on minor edits. Besides, talk pages are for messages, a little like e-mail, so if you don't want to read them, don't. I also love the 3rd person roundabout answers :P. (Let's see if you do better than 4 mins this time). Holomorph19:59, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
That's not vandalism but well I wasn't planning on doing anything else for the moment since you're acting so no-fun. I'd rather go do stuff on the french facebook clone site. :P —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Holomorph (talk • contribs) 16:37, 18 January 2007 (UTC).
The claim that the subject is a "prominent French urban theorist" is not supported. Per WP:BIO, The article must meet the criterion "The person has been the primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person." Claims to this effect must be referenced. If references to support notability are not added, the page may be deleted. — Swpbtalkcontribs04:49, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
As I said before, sources demonstrating the subject's notability must be added to the article. If sources are not added, the article will be deleted. — Swpbtalkcontribs05:03, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Hello! We are a group of editors working to improve the quality of France related articles. You look like someone who might be interested in joining us in the France WikiProject and so I thought I'd drop you a line and invite you! We'd love to have you in our project :-) STTW(talk)17:09, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
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I'd put that because the 'a' symbol is not correct in my transcriptions and I was hoping someone would fix that for me. Zigzig20s00:45, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
If you mean that you were not able to write the symbol you wished, perhaps I can help you. But have you taken a look at the article vowel, and the links in it (click on the symbols in the vowel chart)? FilipeS00:48, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
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Read the instructions When a prod is removed, it should not be replaced. If you feel strongly about Yenta being removed from wikipedia, take it for AfD. 172.165.195.17816:00, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
I originally attached the ref link to the preceding line because I thought it had been separated accidentally: I have never seen a "footnote number" type of reference standing alone. I still think that this format is so unusual that most readers will think it just looks wrong. However, I see your point: where should a "section reference" (as opposed to a "sentence reference") be placed?
One possibility would be a short sentence at the top of the section with the footnote there. Another would be to remove the ref tags and move the reference into the "references" section as a reference for the entire article. If you really want to have it at the end of the section and by itself, I reccomend a one-word sentence consisting of the word "See." As an anchor for the footnote.
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Please don't add speedy tags that don't fit speedy criteria (like this: [1]). It seriously backlogs the WP:CSD. I've been removing them as I see them, but it would help if you would go back and WP:PROD or propose merge on them all. Cheers Dina16:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Did you create all of these articles? Technically you could db-author them, but since many of them seem to have been created back in November, you're probably not the "author" anymore. *sigh*. God, there's tons of them. Why not just leave them alone? Dina16:44, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
In response to your comments on my talk, the fact that you and a handful of other editors decided these articles aren't necessary does not make them speedies. Please read WP:SPEEDY. I think the redirect solution proposed below is a good one. Cheers. Dina19:18, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
re: [2], you redirect them by clearing the article and writing #REDIRECT and then the name of the album in brackets. FYI, when an admin removes a speedy tag with the edit summary "not a criteria for speedy deletion" please don't revert them. You are making a lot of work for others that you could sort out yourself by doing all the redirects. Cheers Dina19:23, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
About the double redirects: I think I fixed most of them (I fixed about 8, and that album was the only one with an issue that I saw.) Here's the issue so you know in the future: The title of the album in question is Scream if You Wanna Go Faster. Someone, quite appropriately, made a redirect for the slightly different caps Scream If You Wanna Go Faster (see [3]. You accidentally redirected the songs from the album to that "bad title" which means you created a "double redirect" -- ie. a redirect that just sends you to another redirect. The way to recognize them is when you click the link you have to click another link to go to the article. The only way to fix them is to go to the original article that you redirected and fix the redirect article name (as I did here. Redirects can be tricky to find and edit. They way to do it is to click on a link for the original article. At the top of the article you are redirected to it will say "redirected from "article name" -- click on that link (article name) and you will be back at the redirect page and can edit it like any other article. But good work sorting it out nonetheless. Cheers. Dina20:07, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Oh hell I just realized what you were actually asking. The article is misnamed. I will move it and rollback all my changes to your double redirects. No biggie. Dina20:09, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Actually strike all of that, the article has previously been moved according to [[4]]. Should probably leave it. Dina20:11, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
While every song need not have its own article, once one has been written, there is no harm in simply redirecting the title back to the album, for the sake of search convenience. I removed the tags in my capacity as an administrator, because redirection is more appropriate. I didn't perform the redirection myself, however, because I have no knowledge of what Spice Girls' songs might deserve independent articles. If you feel the songs merit redirection to their albums, please do so -- but speedy deletion remains inappropriate. Best wishes, Xoloz18:55, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Hey, Zig! Man - you're hard at work on those items, aren't you!?!? Thanks for all the work! FYI, there's no need to update the to do list when you finish cleanup on an article. SatyrBot goes through and creates that list every night. It's looking for cleanup tags on articles, so if you remove the {{expand}} or {{wikify}} or whatever from the article, it will be removed from the list that night. Similarly, if you want to add an article to the list, simply tag it with the appropriate cleanup tag and it will show up on the list that night. Hope that saves you some time ;) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)22:18, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Zig! I didn't do anything to the list - as I said, it's maintained by a bot which updates it nightly. So for all the articles you mentioned, they have the LGBT Project banner, but they don't have any particular cleanup tag. If you want them to show up on the full list, add a cleanup tag and they'll be there the next morning. Does that make sense? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)15:39, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
ditto from me on the thanks for the invite. i see on the translation site that there's not a lot of folks doing french-english translation. would you like to set up an exchange wherein you check my french for any errors and i will vice-versa? although i must say that you are incredibly fluent in english! quite impressive. glad that you're on wikipedia. --ponyboy16:16, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
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It appears in the search results when you specifically search for "Middle Age: A Romance." Other than that, you can add it to the Middle Ages disambig page here. Is that what you were referring to? María(habla conmigo) 02:40, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
It does appear for me, but I think it's a problem as simple as colon placement; wiki searches are highly case sensitive. You're putting a space after "Age"; try it just as "Middle Age: A Romance" and you get the article itself. Search for just "Middle Age A Romance" and you get these results. You could always do a redirect with a space after the colon if you think enough people would attempt to search for it that way? María(habla conmigo) 02:56, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't believe the page needs to be moved (which would be how you change the article's name). If it truly bothers you, all you need to do is create a re-direct in the small chance that someone would search for it with a space before the colon. After all, the correct punctuation is to have no space between "Age" and the colon and that is how Amazon, Alibris, and Harper Collins, among others, have it listed. María(habla conmigo) 03:18, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
No problem. What's important is that the novel is readily findable, and it's correct of you to look into these things. For future reference, to move a page (because of typo or whatever) all you need to do is click the "Move" tab in between "History" and "Watch." I went ahead and added a link to the novel at the Middle Age dab page. You may want to look into adding it to some lists, however, because according to its stats only a few articles link to it. A good place to start is Lists of books. Whenever I create a new article for a novel, I like to add as many links possible to get more attention. María(habla conmigo) 03:31, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Hey, you just forgot to close the ref at the end of the section, so no biggie. I've gone and closed it for you. Later, María(habla conmigo) 02:59, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
LGBT publications
Jtowns proposed a LGBT publications taskforce a while back, to focus on LGBT newspapers, magazines, stuff like that. The minimum threshold is three members, and jtowns and boomboomeve have signed up, so we need one more person to actually start it. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 18:23, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Oh, the proposal is on the main page, we weren't going to create it until we had three members? Do you want to sign up? Because if yes, I can create the requisite pages and email jtowns (he seems to have gone offline for a bit). Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 19:39, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
There's not really more information to be had, to be honest. WP:LGBT doesn't have any taskforces, so we'll be flying blind. And yes, I was going to put your proposed literature taskforce in our next newsletter and then put it on the mainpage. I think it's a great idea. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 20:33, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
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I was briefly a member, and designed their userbox for them. I quit because I wasn't really editing any articles on poetry. :) Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 05:12, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
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The plot summary had no links except Marrakech, but I just cleaned it up. Plus, the year link in the lead pgh of a film or book article should have the "year in film" or whatever link (but the link in the infobox should not). Thanks for creating the article! TAnthony15:37, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
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I thought I'd give it a try in creating an author navigation box for Katherine Mansfield. It's extremely basic, and I don't know enough about her or her work to add any particular info beyond what's here. So, take a look: Template:Katherine Mansfield. Beyond this, we can add dates next to the titles or find a better way to line things up. Once it looks good, feel free to add it to the bottom of the articles for her works so people can easily jump from one story to the next. Let me know what you think. --Midnightdreary16:57, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
It's easy. I'll add it to Mansfield's article and you can add it to the rest of her articles by using the same code (you can look at the code when you click "edit this page" on her article. It's basically the name of the template enclosed in {{ }} instead of [[ ]]. --Midnightdreary19:49, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Mansfield Works
Not sure why you have a problem with the fuller bibliography that I am working on. It is quite a normal approach to give the actual works them selves rather than the publications, as those are rather more like advertising. Also the Author navigation template is still very much work in progress as it at present only contains the short stories. I think that can be worked up to include novels etc. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk)09:20, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Pretty much done for the moment - and I don't see it as redundant as it provides a more structured list with publication years that would look far too cluttered on a template. The template is purely for navigation, (which I have added to all the short story articles). If the bibliograpy fills out more than a full blown "Bibliography article" linked to from the main author article might become to best way. My main thinking here is that this is a "major" author who's work is worthy of sophiticated treatment here on wikipedia. However at present we have a "work in progress" so far, much improved with your continbutions. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk)10:51, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
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Photo requests
Hi! I see you've started adding the reqphoto tag to the articles for Indiana towns -- I agree we need many more photos to make for stronger articles. I'd ask that you please don't add the tag indiscriminately, though. Several articles that you tagged as needing photos (Americus, Ambia, Buck Creek, etc.) are towns for which I've already uploaded snapshots. Thanks, Huwmanbeing16:17, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
I believe the tag by itself is intended for articles that have no photographs (or no suitable ones), though of course one can always include as an optional attribute a request for a snap of something specific. I do feel, though, that tagging articles as "photo needed" when they already have a photo is unnecessary. There are plenty of Indiana articles with zero photos that presumably should be addressed first. After all, by that logic practically any WP article could be similarly tagged, since any article -- no matter how many photos it has -- could always have more. :-)
Also, though I do love little Indiana towns and am from one myself, I don't think every one merits a full gallery of pictures. Take Winthrop, for example -- it's a legitimate town on all the maps, but frankly, what you see is practically all there is. Huwmanbeing16:49, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
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Reqphoto
Hi, when adding requests for photographs to Polish towns, you might want to use {{reqphotoin|Poland}} instead of {{reqphoto}}. --Lysytalk08:58, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Sure. I just thought that you were adding {{reqphoto}} to Polish towns today again and I thought you might want to consider my suggestion instead. But I do not intend to push it of course. There may be reasons why you had chosen to do it the other way. I only thought that you might had forgotten this, and this is the only reason why I'm bugging you again. Hope you don't mind :-) --Lysytalk17:13, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
If I take a personal photo for Agra, Oklahoma, can I give it to you to upload against the article since it isn't copy righted material?
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Absolutely. Sorry my presence has been sporadic. I've been very busy at work lately. I'll try to whip it up within the next few days. BGMurph20:38, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Hey yes, I should have done that ages ago. I was wrapping up life in LA and planning my move to NYC... which is now done. And I will actually do it. Many apologies. BGMurph16:48, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
You requested a citation for my statement that the book is propaganda. Have you read the book? I read the whole thing twice. It's propaganda, according to the technical definition on the Propaganda Wikipedia page, "Instead of impartially providing information, propaganda in its most basic sense presents information in order to influence its audience. The most effective propaganda is often completely truthful, but some propaganda presents facts selectively to encourage a particular synthesis..." Let me say that I admire Sinclair and found his book extremely disturbing. I wish I could call it something else to encourage people to read it. But it IS propaganda. He is NOT fair. He has an agenda and he wants his readers to adopt it. The reviewers I cite state as much. Wikipedia requires truth, not partisanship. People unfamiliar with Sinclair deserve an accurate description of his work. Please remove the "citation needed", or supply an alternative term with the same meaning. Thank you. Sofia Roberts18:27, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Still doesn't ring a bell... I was involved in an off-Wikipedia project dealing with Midwestern states in 2004, around the time when I first discovered Wikipedia. There were a few things I could contribute to Wikipedia in relation to that project; things I was working on anyway. I guess this note was one of those things, but since it was three years ago, I don't remember any of the details. Anyway, I'll be removing this note of mine since it obviously no longer makes sense to me or to folks who see it :) Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 21:00, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Iowa cities
At the risk of sounding demented and senile, I must say you guessed right :) All this was a while ago, and I lost interest in Midwestern cities long since. You might be better off asking around Iowa Portal or some such.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 19:02, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
bodega bay images!
so they need a license, but i don't know how to do that. i looked and i really don't know. they gave me like.. weird licenses that didn't apply, like images from the government or whose copyright had expired. asdfghjkl;' and i have 7 days left to put a license on there, so there's time, but i don't know how.
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Sure I'd join, I recall trying to contact the project at one point in connection with a slew of renamings of articles about ancient Greeks only one of whom had real relevance to the project; but I don't know where I can be used best. Let me know what I can do and will try to pitch in; I am doing 2 other wikiprojects: Sicily and Classical Greece and Rome. Etes-vous français? J'ai prise un conseil de votre userpage. Je devrais trouver les plus correspondants français et ameliorer mon usage de la langue, mais alors il est une de beaucoup de choses que je dois faire. Pardonnez le pas d'accents, il est plus difficile au mon keyboard, et j'ai erreurs plus importantes de grammaire et d'orthographe. Et quand je ne peux pas rappeler le mot correct, je peux employer l'espagnol, porque el es comprensible a la mayoria de los francofones. Voila! :-) Carlossuarez4600:44, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
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I mean, copy and paste the facts, and write something about it being from this site? Also, can I add that it is a hotspot for highschool students to work at? Bryse18:28, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
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Hi, Zigzig20s - I left the below for TAnthony - Can I get your opinion, too?
Got a question for you. I just ran across Category:Literature with LGBT characters. I'm wondering if that category wouldn't be better off as a list? My reasoning is threefold:
Take a look at Dune (novel). Nowhere in the article do the words "gay", "lesbian", "bisexual" or "homosexual" (etc) appear. I haven't read the full article, but I would expect one of those words in order for the article to be in an LGBT cat.
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The ongoing effort to create a comprehensive list of LGB people has begun to bear fruit - /A AND the /W-Z lists have been featured! Congratulations to Dev920 and SatyrTN who nominated them respectively. Please consider pitching in the the remaining lists to help us get them finished before the end of the year.
Project News
WP:LGBT now has an IRC channel! It is #LGBTProject on Freenode. Users without IRC or Xchat can use the java app at java.freenode.net to access the channel from their web browser. Hope to see you in there sometime!
David Shankbone has taken a LOT of photos. An idea has been mooted to create a page for listing people who are willing to take images in their area on request, please give your thoughts here.
Considerable discussion has recently been held on our coverage of same sex marriage, civil unions and domestic partnerships. You may be interested to read it.
The list of LGBT people to be sorted has now been reduced by over 30%. Please help us with it, all of us adding just one person a day would have a dramatic effect!
A gay cabal conspiracy ghost has been created to do with what you will. :)
Wooh, massive gay conspiracy...
Member News
Since the last newsletter was released, we have had more members been labelled inactive than who have signed up - please consider recruiting a few more people if you can, a WikiProject is only as good as its members. :)
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Delivered on 16:00, 6 July 2007 (UTC).
The Novels WikiProject Newsletter: Issue XVI - September 2007
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Hey fellow Wikipedian! Your username is listed on the WikiProject Films participants list, but we are unsure as to which editors are still active on the project. If you still consider yourself an active WP:FILM editor, please add your name to the Active Members list. You may also wish to add {{User WikiProject Films}} to your userpage, if you haven't done so already. We also have several task forces that you may be interested in joining as well.
Also, elections for Project Coordinators are currently in sign-up phase. If you would be interested in running, or would like to ask questions of the candidates, please take a look. You can see more information on the positions at Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Coordinators. Thanks and happy editing!
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The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue XVII - October 2007
The October 2007 issue of the Novels WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
The LGBT studies project has been rather quiet of late. Though we've added over 180 new members in the last year, only a small percentage are active participants. If you haven't visited our project or talk page in a while, please stop by for a look. Also, if you happen to bump into another editor who you feel might enjoy working with us, please extend an invitation. There's lot's do do, and the active members would sincerely appreciate some help.
Our Peer review project is struggling at the present, with only a few people reviewing the articles. While it is certainly possible to submit articles for a general peer review, a review by members of the LGBT community can be of additional value for LGBT specific writing. There are several articles currently up for review on a wide range of topics. At the very least, reading the articles will undoubtedly broaden your intellectual horizons :-)
At the moment, David Le Brocq, Malmö Devilants and Trajectory Hermeneutics are up for deletion review. Please take a look at them and make your voice heard at the deletion review. Articles nominated for deletion also present a challenge for improvement. See what you can do, and watchlist our deletion review page.
The Pederasty articles continue to be a point of controversy both within and outside of our community. Various editors have suggested that to include them as LGBT Project related somehow taints the project and brings Wikipedia into disrepute. Other editors have stated that the articles, and especially the Pederasty article, are part of the core of LGBT studies. Well meaning editors continue to remove our tags from the articles themselves as well as the talk pages. If you have time, please read the articles and watchlist them to protect them from vandalism and well meaning but counterproductive edits.
The list of LGBT people has survived its 4th nomination for deletion. Please watchlist this list to protect it from vandalism and unsourced additions. There are many in Wikipedia who would like to see this Featured status list removed from the project. It is up to us to keep it to such a high caliber that it never is removed.
Our project member David Shankbone is now working as a journalist for Wikinews, as well as continuing to improve our project and Wikipedia as a whole with his photographs. A sincere thank you goes out to him for all of his hard work. Wikipedia would not shine nearly as brightly without your contributions, David.
Happy Halloween, everybody! Be happy and celebrate!
The surviving life partner of prominent LGBT rights activist Barbara Gittings recently called one of our editors and, among other things, complimented us on what a great job our project is doing on Wikipedia. Thanks to everyone who contributes to this project, either through their article edits or support for other project members. We really are making an difference here!
Member assistance
Some of our project members have been having difficulties related to editing on the encyclopedia. If you are feeling frustrated or distressed by your editing experience, please don't keep it to yourself. Wikipedia is a collaborative effort, and we are all here to help one another. Drop a line on our talkpage or on another editor's page, and other members of the LGBT project will happily give you the support you want and need.
Lastly, Halloween is just around the corner. More than most holidays, Halloween is a holiday embraced by and tailor made to our community (though God only knows why we are invisible in the Halloween article here. Perhaps somebody would like to rectify that editing oversight). Have fun, everybody, and remember to both trick and treat!
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Delivered on 17:31, 11 October 2007 (UTC).
Re: Audre Lorde
Re: Audre Lorde
"I've deleted the link you added to the Audre Lorde page because it seems to be only concerned with Zami: A New Spelling of My Name. Am I right?Zigzig20s 14:13, 9 October 2007 (UTC)"
I'm not sure of the rationale here. Is space at such a premium that a 1-line external link must be removed? The article (from Kenyon Review) addresses more than just the 1 book, i.e., issues of life, lesbianism, authorship, etc. What was wrong with leaving it? It's authoritative and it concerns AL.Proyster21:22, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue XVIII - November 2007
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Hey, Peeps, it's that time of the month again (no not that time — get your mind out of the gutter): time for another monthly edition of the LGBT Project'sLove Boat newsletter from your cruise directorMiss Julie. So much has been happening this month and I just can't wait to tell you all about it!!!
Alice and her harasser
Let's start with some good news: Alice and the project lost the bothersome sock puppet who had been disrupting many articles we monitor, and now most of us can edit in relative peace. Congratulations, Alice, for being able to come out of semi-retirement. Benjiboi, on the other hand, has gained an anonymous IP stalker who seems to be more Catholic than the Pope and who has a hard-on for the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. We seem to have a sort of Yin and Yang thing going on here, which helps both to keep us in balance and on our toes <bright smiles all around>.
Harry Potter and his homosexual teacher
Albus Dumbledore got outed this month, and was immediately adopted by our project. The international brouhaha surrounding this disclosure reached all the way to Wikiland, and his article was briefly locked due to homophobic vandalism (as well as well meaning editors who just couldn't believe that that nice man could possibly be gay). This is a wonderful article to add to your watchlist, and will surely give you hours of reverting fun on cold winter days.
"My Fellow Americans"
On a more serious note, Fireplace has suggested a new article series about LGBT rights in the United States, state by state. This ambitious topic will surely require many editors and a lot of research, but has the potential to add further prestige to our already prestigious project.
Same name, same sexuality: a riddle for the ages
Francis Bacon (not the new gay one, but the old gay one ... though they're actually both dead, now that I think about it) has also aroused passions here on Wikipedia, with editors opposing his sexuality being disclosed in his biography. The always helpful Haiduc has thoughtfully provided any number of sources, but it is slow going getting his point across. Anyone want to lend a hand?
Beat writer arouses Irish guy
And speaking of passions, Jack Kerouac has inflamed the senses once again with editors, including administrator Irishguy, mounting a spirited defense to keep him as heterosexual as possible for Wikipedia purposes. Why? I don't know. Perhaps some of you can drop by the talk page and ask your questions there. I feel certain a stimulating debate will ensue that will be enjoyed by all.
Love those Texas Longhorns
Did you know that one of our Featured articles, Lawrence v. Texas, lost its shiny gold star? That was a shocker. It has been suggested that we turn our attention to it in an effort to restore it to its former glory. I took a peek, and it does need our help badly. For our American editors, it would seem almost a civic duty to edit it (not that I'm hinting....).
Point and Counterpoint
Though it was far too intellectual a debate for a mere cruise director like myself to take part in, Intersexuality was certainly a hot topic a week or two ago. The thrust of the debate was over inclusion in our project. Lots of good editors had lots of good opinions. For those too lazy to check out the discussion, we decided to leave it out for now.
Drudgery on offer
Peer review is, as always, short staffed and seemingly unloved. Wouldn't you feel better about yourself and the world in general if you took a few minutes to read one of the listed articles and offer some helpful advice? I know I'd feel better if you did.
"My Fellow Americans" redux
The article LGBT movements in the United States certainly raised eyebrows last week, especially when it was discovered that copyrighted content had been added to our article. Tragedy was averted at the last minute, though, when the original hosts of the article where the material had been pilfered agreed to make it free to everyone. Our thanks to them, whoever they are. Busy Bee that I am, I haven't had time to read it, but I'm sure it's sensational.
Not content to run for Best Actress, plucky Bannon won a Best supporting actress Oscar... whoops, I meant to say Ann is also getting more than her share of womanly attention on the Good Article list. Joining her on this exalted plane are Freddy Mercury, Waylon Smithers and Lance Bass. Good articles indeed, and the last one mentioned just goes to show that one needn't admire the subject of an article to appreciate the effort put into making him worthwhile reading. What on earth Britney ever saw in him I'll never know. Truly a riddle cloaked in an enigma and wrapped around a puzzle.
On a personal note, your already overworked cruise director is being cyberly whipped almost daily by Nemissimo, who desperately wants to get the German BDSM translation copy edited and used as a replacement for the current one. It's such a ... err, stimulating topic that I am sure many of you will want to join the copy editing fun. Jump right in, folks! It's so lonely copy editing it all by my lonesome!
Late breaking news
A little birdie just whispered in my ear that our noble collaboration project was delisted from the Community Portal due to inactivity. When asked how this scandalous turn of events could have occurred, the answer I received was "we suck at stuff like that". Well. In the first place, I disagree that sucking should be considered a negative, but to each his or her own. In the second place, I have full confidence that we can and will collaborate with other projects in the future. So let's not view this as a setback (even though it is), but rather a challenge to improve (and good Lord, I sound almost Wikipedian!).
Champagne dreams and caviar kisses
Lastly, the holidays are rapidly approaching. Our American cousins are currently getting ready to slaughter masses of poultry in an effort to show their gratitude and generally peaceful demeanor, and those of the Canadian persuasion, trendsetters that they are, celebrated a bit early this year. I'm sure all us foreigners will join together in wishing them all a very happy Thanksgiving on their respective holidays, both already celebrated and forthcoming... though I would hope somebody would enlighten me as to why they don't celebrate it on the same day. I was awake all last night trying to figure that one out.
In the spirit of this peculiarly North American holiday, let me take a moment to thank all of our editors for their contributions to this project. It's people like you who make people like me...well, a "people person"! May all your Wiki days be bright, and may your Love Boat never turn into a Poseidon.
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Bonjour and welcome to the first WikiProject France newsletter!! It should become a monthly special of our project, but until the next issue, here are some points to consider for the month:
In an effort to determine the active members from the inactive, all members are asked to simply sign on my special userpage.
I have slightly rearranged and updated the Project page, putting all the featured lists in collapsible tables. This unclutteres the page and you only have to see them if you want to. Give your feelings at the talk page.
What about starting a monthly drive? We currently have no Featured Portals (except for the Basque Portal which really isn't French any way), so how about improving Portal:France??? I don't know what's exactly wrong but the criteria can be seen at Wikipedia:Featured portal criteria.
It doesn't seem like a lot, so I hope we will still have enough problems for nexts months issue. Salut till the next issue, ChrisDHDR (17:22, 10 November 2007 (UTC)).
James Fenimore Cooper
Hey, I'm afraid I don't have much free time at all, and the only novel of his that I'm familiar with is Last of the Mohicans, and I'm not too big of a fan of that, I'm afraid. ;) If you want to bring it to the attention of the Novels Wikiproject, the link to the general forum is here. Sorry I can't be of more help! María(habla conmigo) 15:16, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I've noticed you've created a number of stubs recently and tagged them with an uncategorised {{stub}} template. It'd be very useful if, where possible, you could use a more specific stub template, such as {{play-stub}} - a full list can be found here. Thanks, Jeodesic22:46, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Quelle Suprise! King James is a Queen!
Our dear Haiduc, never a stranger to controversy, recently decided to delve into the wardrobe of the British Monarchy, and what did he discover? King James had more than appreciative eyes for strapping young men! Naturally, Haiduc felt the need to share this news with the community, but instead of being praised for his scholarship, he was reviled. In fact, one rabid heterocentrist even rummaged around in his own wardrobe until he found an old pair of socks to play with. All seemed lost until astute editor Jeffpw noticed some odd postings and did some sleuthing of his own. The socks were uncovered, the Wicked Witch was melted and readers the world over were able to learn that Good King James regularly ordered tube steak from the menu of the day. Thank you, Haiduc! Thank you, Jeff! And let Miss Julie add (for readers who might not know) that tube steak tastes just like chicken!
It's Britney, Bitch!
Well, maybe it's not Miss Thang, herself, but it's the next best thing: Chris Crocker! he stirs up just about as much controversy as his idol does, even here on Wikipedia. Though it's all a bit of a muddle, one of our editors hopes you can drop by the talk page and leave a message of hope for those battling the forces of obstructionism in that little corner of the Wiki World. It is so hard to spread enlightenment. As Miss Parker herself said, "You can lead a whore to culture, but you can't make her think".
Game show for nerds
Wallowing in cash from the latest beg-a-thon, the powers-that-be have decided to sponser a little contest here to improve the articles, with a Grand prize of $100. Yeah. Just enough for a Burger King dinner for the family. Still, the thought is nice and the goal is noble, so we should support it. Our little Queer beehive has taken a look at what's on offer, and both the Greek Traditionalists and Daughters of Bilitis are well represented. The ever useful SatyrTN has made a little list, which can be found here (if that malignant bot hasn't archived it already, that is). So find a pal, roll up your sleeves and dive right in. Let's show this Encyclopedia just what Queers with firecrackers up their....err, I mean, let's show the others what we can do.
Jón Þór Birgisson
I can't pronounce his name, but he's awfully cute, he's deliciously foreign, and best of all...he's GAY! But he won't be for long, if certain users have their way. A concerted effort has been under way for a while now, designed to neuter poor Jon (pretend I put a little accent thingy over that O) and make him into a sort of rockin' Ken doll. So please watchlist this hunka man, and keep him queer! If anybody questions you, tell them "Miss Julie sent me".
TranSanta
Everybody loves a sequel
Readers not afflicted with Alzheimer's will remember that last month we had a little story about Alice and her harasser. That proved so popular that we bring you the sequel: Benjiboi and his stalker. After a chance meeting at the Michael Lucas article, this anonymous user took a shine to our Benjiboi, and has been showering him with attention on virtually every board on Wikipedia. Flattered though he is, Benjiboi finds the attention a bit distracting, and administrators have been seeking various remedies for this. It has proven difficult, as the stalker has an IP address that changes quicker than Superman in a telephone booth. So perhaps some of you would like to watchlist Benjiboi's page, and lend a hand if you see some love letters from an 11 digit friend. I was actually thinking we should get Alice's harasser and Benjiboi's stalker together. Then we could have another sequel, sort of like Freddy vs. Jason. Any bets as to who would win??
Not quite the second coming, but special just the same
Let me be the first to give a warm, wet, Love Boat kiss (though not with tongue) to our newest Project members: Jacksinterweb, Cleduc, Pigman, Becksguy and Iamandrewrice. Even in the month of our Saviour's birth, your popping into our Wikipedian lives is a blessed event indeed. As Jesus Himself said, "Live long and prosper". He did say that, didn't he? I think he said it. In any event, if he was standing next to me now, I'm sure he'd say it, and add, "Happy homo editing!"
Battle of the Wikipedia Stars!
Indomitable Ann Bannon is holding her own in Wikipedia's answer to American Idol: The Featured Article candidate list! For four feverish weeks, she has mastered the challenges and not been eliminated from the competition. Drop by the FAC page and show Ann you love her....or give her the hook (I'm not supposed to tell you how to vote). Giving our plucky Ann reason to hope is the recent promotion of List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people: Sa-Sc. If Miss Julie has her way, we will have the entire alphabet of Queerdom Featured here on Wikipedia soon! And I would be remiss if I did not give a warm, Lesbian salute to our own Belovedfreak, who showed Wikipedia with But I'm a Cheerleader that even pom poms are no protection from the Love that dare not speak its name, and got a gold star for her efforts.
Climbing the Wikipedia career ladder is User: Tim1965, who has not only written, but is now promoting Reel Affirmations to Good article status. Best of luck, Tim, and remember: there are no small parts, only small actors. We're sure you'll be trading that green circle for a gold star soon (assuming you get the green in the first place!).
Santa's on his gay way!
Santa needs elves
Yes, I know: packages need buying, trees need trimming, egg nog needs drinking. The holidays make many demands on our time. It's ...well, it's a bitch, is what it is. So I wouldn't blame you for skipping this little section and putting off my request until next year. But...think of the children. Our future. They need quality information about the homosexual "lifestyle" if we are to indoctrinate them properly. That's why I am asking you to drop by our Peer review area and give your meaning as to the efforts of your fellow gay Wikipedians. And think: in this season of kindness and good will to all, isn't it nice that I am pointing you to someplace where you can (in a Wikiloving way, of course) rip someone a new asshole? Think about it...and those children with their shiny, bright eyes, thanking you for contributing to their future.
Even more festively, consider joining in on the deletion discussions of our favorite articles. Here you can bandy about such words as "homophobia", "Right-wing Christian agenda" and my personal favorite, "just who do you think you're pushing around?!?!?". If you play your cards right, there might even be an extra present under the tree for you. :-D
Urgent Christmas appeal Tovojolo asked me to ask you to edit Elizabeth Bishop as part of the Collaboration Project. She's an old dead poet (Miss Bishop, not Tovojolo. I've never actually met Tovojolo. She's probably very young and attractive. Maybe somebody should ask if she's single), but she was a flaming homosexual long before most of us had even been conceived, so we owe her some respect. Tovojolo actually asked me for the last newsletter, but Miss Julie forgot. Bad Miss Julie. She was so busy boosting morale it just slipped right by her. Nemissimo, maybe you need to crack that whip again to get Julie back in line.
Surrender, Dorothy!!!!!!! Friend of Dorothy has attracted the attention of a group of....the more senior elements of our gay society. They disagree with our thesis that Saint Judy was the possible source of the term, and demand we change the article to reflect their contention that Dorothy Parker was the origin. The problem is, their source didn't check out. So we agreed to disagree. Well, we at the project did. They got kinda mad at us, said unkind things, and started edit warring. Though they are old, they are certainly quick, and could revert the article faster than my nimble fingers could press the undo button. To quote the divine Miss Parker, every time I saw the article on my watchlist, I thought to myself, "What fresh hell is this?". The page was protected by sympathetic administrators, but keeping an eye on it will keep Dorothy safe from future Wicked Witches of the West or East.
Ambrosia
Our dear Benjiboi has been busy indeed, lately. He recently made fruit salad out of Fruit, turning a once nasty word into a damn good article, and saving it from deletion! Congratulations, Benjiboi! I hear he has turned his attention from fruit to poultry now. Before he is through, he will have turned every major food group gay on Wikipedia!
Christmas came early
Yes, indeed! Valued administrator WJBscribe was raised out of the mire of mid-level management and placed squarely into the Pantheon of Bureaucracy! And Miss Julie is just too proud of him not to mention that he got the most support votes in the history of Wikipedia! Congratulations, WJB! We know you will not prove the Peter Principle correct!
You!
Yes, you! It's you who make this project shine! It's you who make Wikipedia such a valuable resource for all humanity! And it's you who make Miss Julie's dull life just a little bit better. So I want to take this moment to thank each and every one of you for all you do here. Merry Christmas, everybody! Happy Hanukkah! Festive Kwanzaa!Delirious Dong Zhi!Delicious Diwali! And for our oppressed Iranian brothers and sisters, I wish you a safe and joyous Yalda. And if I didn't mention your favorite December holiday, well, it's because I feel it's so special I should just keep it between you and me. Always remember: You light up my life!
May we all have a joyous holiday season, and a safe, healthy, happy and prosperous 2008.
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