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Hello, Zarcadia. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Help desk. Message added 17:55, 19 March 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Hello Zarcadia. Thank your for the barnstar. In answer to the message that you left with it you certainly have the authority to award any barnstar to any editor that you wish. That is what they are there for. One minor thing though. It is a good idea to leave a barnstar that you are awarding on an editors talk page rather than their user page. When anyone returns to editing if a message has been left on their talk page they are notified of that with the brightly colored "you have a new message" bar. This does not occur when you edit on their user page. If an editor hasn't logged on for a couple of days then they might not even see the addition to their user page on their watchlist so they might miss your addition entirely. Again you did not do anything wrong this is just acvice for the future. Again thanks and happy editing. MarnetteD | Talk18:01, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
My bad
Thanks for reminding. I was aware of that, but since I type quickly, I'm going to slow down next time. Have a good day! Arbero10:51, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
The translation reads as sort of spammis, so if they continue take your pick.
Translation (via Chrome, so it's a bit sloppy) as follows:
TOURIST GUALEGUAYCHU - PUEBLO BELGRANO
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Both towns fall within the well-drained undulating plain of Mesopotamia Argentina.
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Surrounded by Gualeguaychú and Uruguay rivers, streams and watersheds, coasts have beautiful beaches and forests and shores ñandubay aromitos and populated ceibos forming willows and captivating landscapes.
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Gualeguaychú city is located on the homonymous river, which flows into the Uruguay River which forms the framework for the practice of various sports, swimming, fishing and beaches. With just across the river Gualeguaychú through the Puente Méndez Casariego is that we enter BELGRANO PEOPLE ... Tranquility, nature and safety is what gives this town that is identified by the peace of the streets and the courtesy of more than 2000 inhabitants which has 1500 hotel rooms with various high quality services and offering a special space for quiet family.
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Currently growing in the expansion of Gualeguaychú, strongly linked to the carnival and its beaches, despite being separated as a district is part of the resort, developed mainly to tourism, is on the way to the famous resort on the River Ñandubaysal Uruguay has over a thousand meters of gently sloping beaches and white sands. To understand the beauty of this place, suffice it to say that the place was obtained the photograph that won the competition for the best morning of the world.
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PEOPLE BELGRANO shaft is in the call Fiorotto curve in meeting or crossing of road and the road Ñandubaysal International Route linking with neighboring Uruguay. From that intersection at 800 meters, on the way is Ñandubaysal Mirador Cabins, Resort and Spa offering its facilities and services of excellence and only 1000 meters from the main attraction of the town, the resort SPA OF GUALEGUAYCHU
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PEOPLE BELGRANO GUALEGUAYCHU and is a tourist center that wait all year to experience all the seasons.
As the country is (repeatedly) mentioned in the second sentence, there is no need to mention it in the first sentence. If you would like to discuss it on article talk, please feel free to begin a discussion. I should add that it is best not to invoke policies such as WP:OWN prior to discussion taking place, and if you look at the talk page, you will see that I have many times yielded to discussion. Perhaps I should also mention that this article passed through multiple layers of review, quite intense review, before becoming a WP:FA, and no one objected to the phrasing. Now, I don't say that FAC turns out perfect products, but everyone read the first sentence, of course. All the best,--Wehwalt (talk) 12:12, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
That's fair enough, I was just trying to clarify the location but, as you pointed out, it is mentioned further down in the same paragraph. Thanks. Zarcadia (talk) 16:00, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
You ask why it is not necessary to add "United States" to the listing of "New York City" as the location of Times Square. The answer is because it is incredibly pedantic to do so. There are a small number of cities on Earth -- "world cities", they're sometimes called -- which any person literate enough to read and use Wikipedia should know in which country they are located, and New York City is decidely one of them. Adding "United States" just makes us look silly. Please don't add it again. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:53, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Well you beat me to it as I was writing a message to your talk page just as I got your message. I understand your point and don't agree with edit-warring so won't put it again. I hope you have the decency to assume good faith as I'm only looking to improve the project. Zarcadia (talk) 18:59, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Dude, don't do this. Don't insert a link to freakin' U.S. state, as if it's such a foreign concept that a link is required. And don't switch back and forth. Everglades National Park is integral to Florida. It brings a million tourists a year and the Everglades are tied into the politics and economy of the region. Clearly Florida should be linked. And national park. Come on.
So is Florida a foreign concept? Or National Park? U.S. State is linked to in numerous articles (I can link to them if you want). Also stating "I will do everything I can to keep it out." sounds confrontational and not in line with Wikipedia policy, you have no right to state this. Zarcadia (talk) 22:56, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
@Z: I think you want to take a close look at this. and perhaps hold off on linking and unlinking for a while until you're more in tune with the community's current standards. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:00, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
You might want to familiarize yourself with the following:
Standards of a Featured Article. If you do not know what a Featured Article is, please read about them. Better yet, write one and go through the process of nominating one. Then keep it in FA order, removing uncited claims, frivolous insertions, and ridiculous links like U.S. state for an article that has nothing to do with a U.S. state.
Write 20 FAs, and do the same thing over and over and over.
Get threatened with blocking as many times as you defend the 20 articles you've written.
Realize you don't really care about being blocked, and neither do most FA editors.
If there is a part of WP:OVERLINKING you do not understand, particularly for Everglades National Park, I will be happy to explain it to you. --Moni3 (talk) 23:38, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Protected the page rather than blocking both both of you for 3rr. Please discuss (preferably on the article talk page) rather than edit warring. I protected it as I found it - no endorsement of current version. Vsmith (talk) 23:53, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
That is accurate, particularly when you do not seem to know what you are doing. 3RR is not the issue here. The issue is that you have no connection to the article before this and, to my knowledge, no interest in it. Yet you think it is right to link U.S. state in an article about Everglades National Park. Quick quiz: does Florida have any connection to Everglades National Park? Does national park have any connection to Everglades National Park? Does the article on all 50 states have anything to do with Everglades National Park? That would be yes, yes, and no.
Nice. I think you're sexy too. However, if you missed the section about stewarding Featured Articles, I'll point it out to you again: it's the last section on the WP:OWN page. If you saw it and insist you're right, then...ok. How you can get that from what's on that page is impressively creative. Feel free to ante up the "ramblings" and allusions to my incompetence as more editors disagree with you on the talk page of Everglades National Park. I suggest calling me a communist homosexual with a 2-digit IQ. One of those might be right.
I'll bet you'll find it liberating to acquiesce in this case, admit that you were unaware of the overlinking page, and say that there is room to learn and grow on Wikipedia. Further, pick any topic that is not already an FA, and I'll tell you exactly what needs to be done to get the article there, what to expect when the article is on the main page for 24 hours, and how to deal with editors who come by an insist they know more than you about the article you spent weeks to months writing and editing over and over. I'll help you get it there. You do the research and writing and I'll help you navigate the astonishing maze of insane rules and minutiae for Featured articles. --Moni3 (talk) 02:01, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Your note
Hello Z. I saw your note on Zoe's page and meant to leave you a message about it but got diverted. Many apologies. The British v English (or Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish) nationality distinction is an unending conflict here at WikiP. In my almost six years I have seen articles changed back and forth numerous times. I also seen unending discussions that either never reach a consensus or, if one is reached, it gets overturned/ignored. In ZW's case it should probably be changed back. Since she wasn't born in the UK the distinction between the four is moot and her citizenship and passport are British not English. I will post this and if we don't get a response in a day or so we can change it back. Cheers and have a good weekend. MarnetteD | Talk11:33, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
What a coincidence. I was just about to leave you a message saying that, since you began then discussion, you should have the honour of changing the item on Zoe's page back and voilà you had already taken care of it. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk17:10, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Yeah - it is cute. I saw it on another talk page and copied it to my sandbox in case I ever found a good time to use it and this certainly was one. Feel free to do the same. Have a great rest of your week. MarnetteD | Talk17:19, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Nonito Donaire
Why do you keep reverting it to ONLY Filipino in his Nationality?
He is clearly a Filipino American...I have always shown BOTH Nationalities on my revisions...
Explain in detail please...or even better, do the right thing...do some simple research and let my edits stand...
Your recent edits to the article can be classed as vandalism, you have broken several WP policies including 3RR, launching personal attacks and editing against consensus. It would be beneficial for you to refrain from editing for a while and have a read through those pages, they will certainly help your future editing. Zarcadia (talk) 14:09, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
No. You're wrong on all accounts. This can not be tolerated. I will now provide THREE credible addresses showing he is Filipino American...
The 1st is from the largest Sports TV channel/site in the world. The 2nd is from Wikipedia which was created in APRIL, 2010. The 3rd is from the foremost authority in Boxing, The Ring.
You will see in the last one that he is ONLY listed as being from The USA.
Now...since you seem care so much about this issue and are trying to come across as a major editor and representative of The Wiki Community, do the RIGHT thing and show BOTH Nationalities like I have done in the past...
I have reverted your edit to PBS because I don't see any consensus to change the redirect based on a three-year old discussion in which only three people participated. I am somewhat sympathetic to the idea that this abbreviation should take readers to a disambiguation page, but this is a long-standing redirect that has over 5,000 incoming links from other articles, so a change would be highly disruptive. At a minimum, some notice and discussion is necessary before this can be done. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:31, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Roller derby
What part of the lead is in doubt?
roller derby is American invented
roller derby is a contact sport
roller derby has roots in sports entertainment
All are more or less covered in the History section, which was moved to a separate article and replaced with a summary in the main article. —mjb (talk) 04:50, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Removal of citation tag
You removed a citation tag on Jonny Evans the tag was placed to get a citation that Evans identifies as Northern Irish and not that he plays for Northern Ireland. Mo ainm~Talk16:53, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
By stating he plays for NI rather than is 'Northern Irish' we can avoid possible BLP issues and stick to the facts. Cheers. Zarcadia (talk) 17:05, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Archiving
Hello Z. Everything looks okay as far as I can tell though I have to tell you that I use the "cut and paste" rather than the "move page" method of archiving so I might be missing something. I do notice that even though you typed 01 the page reads as 1 but I would bet that has something to do with wikiprogramming and it should still be okay. If you are at all worried you might post a question at the WP:HELPDESK and let somebody who has a better understanding of these things then I do take a quick look. I do have two suggestions to enhance what you have done.
You will want to put this message template {{Usertalksuper}} back at the top of this page for the convenience of people who come here to post.
It is a good idea to put this template {{talkarchive}} at the top of the archive page that you just created. It looks like this
This is an archive of past discussions with User:Zarcadia. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.
and you can see that it tells people not add anything further. There are the occasional trolls who might go in and try and refactor comments in past discussions and this discourages them from doing so. Some editors also put it at the bottom of the page as well but it is up to you whether you want to have it on the page twice. Let me know if you have any further questions or, again, feel free to use the help desk if I don't get back to you right away. MarnetteD | Talk20:22, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
I appreciate your help on the boxing stuff, but I retired back in April to changes in personal priorities. Thank you anyway though. Chris (talk) 20:33, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Hello Zarcadia. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Leuven Cricket Club, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Teams in notable leagues are not A7 candidates. Thank you. Courcelles08:40, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
It's good to disambiguate cities by adding "United States" where appropriate but please take care to leave the state name in place. For example, Maija Grotell died in Pontiac, Michigan. Perhaps not everyone knows that Michigan is in the United States; but "Pontiac, United States" (as you left if) is less immediately clear to the average reader, but worse, could refer to any one of four cities rather than just one - see Pontiac (disambiguation). Even where everyone knows a city - e.g., New York - please leave the state name in. It reads awkwardly without the state name. Thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 12:25, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
Well, where even it's clear too. It's so common - indeed almost invariable - to include the state along with a city name, that "Los Angeles, United States" sounds funny to - I am guessing - the majority of readers of Wikipedia:en. "Los Angeles, California, United States" is fine. JohnInDC (talk) 13:37, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
It seems the 'city, state, country' formatting is preferred to North American Wikipedians when referring to U.S. or Canadian locations, but I think one exception is NYC, when I see, for example New York, NY that looks awkward to me, the correct article page is New York City and it seems unnecessary to repeat NY and create a redirect, what are your opinions on that? Zarcadia (talk) 13:47, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
Probably either New York, NY or New York City is fine. The former is, I think, the more formal and proper form and perhaps should be preferred. It's quite common in daily use and doesn't distress the ear of the native. Don't put too much stock in Wikipedia titles, where cities can be named without states, provinces or even countries where they are the only city with that name. If I were doing it I'd use New York, NY, which solves both problems. JohnInDC (talk) 14:18, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
Adding US to birthplace in every American bio?
I see that you are adding "United States" to biographies of Americans all across Wikipedia. This is unnecessary and stylistically clumsy. For example, "Conley was born in McIntosh County, Georgia, U.S., and grew up in Atlanta." What's the point of adding "U.S." to that? No one will think that there is a McIntosh County in the country of Georgia and that Conley then somehow, implausibly, moved from the country of Georgia to Atlanta -- especially when the first sentence of the article identifies him as an American. All this is even less necessary in articles where the state in question is something other than Georgia, as in the John McPhee bio. There's only one New Jersey and only one Princeton, New Jersey. I would also point out that the fact that these place names are hyperlinked makes it unnecessary to insert the country everywhere: when in doubt, click the town or state name! I'm sure you mean well, but your edits are not adding any useful clarity and in fact are making many articles a little bit less readable than they could be. My two cents. Terence7 (talk) 02:12, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
I agree it's not that necessary in the body text (if the adjective American is used) but I think it's useful to list country in the infobox so that the reader doesn't have to click on a link to see where that state/place is. Some biographies on WP list birthplace as Paris, France, surely everyone knows that Paris is in France but we still list the country. Most biographies on WP list the country (especially Good and Featured articles) and using the abbreviation U.S. doesn't clog up the infobox. Thanks. Zarcadia (talk) 09:07, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
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