User talk:Zanhe/2017


Thank you

First class meal for you
Thank you for your work on Chinese airports. — Sunnya343✈ (háblame • my work) 03:23, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
@Sunnya343: Thanks for your work as well, especially Guilin Qifengling Airport, which had been on my to-do list for a while (a lot of WWII content about Qifengling was wrongly posted at the new Guilin airport). Unfortunately I haven't had much time to work on Wikipedia recently. Hopefully we'll collaborate on something in the future. Cheers, -Zanhe (talk) 18:16, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The PRC Barnstar
I imagine you've probably seen this star on your talkpage a few time... still, here's another for your collection. Thank you very much for your help in tidying up Zhen Dexiu, Wei Liaoweng, and other Neo-Confucianist pages recently; your expertise is much appreciated. Yunshui 雲水 08:59, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
this WikiAward was given to Zanhe by Yunshui 雲水 on 08:59, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
@Yunshui:, thank you, but you're the one who really deserves the barnstar for writing the much needed articles for the famous Neo-Confucianist scholars! For the past year I've been spending most of my spare time reading The Cambridge History of China and haven't got much time to contribute to Wikipedia. When I'm done (still got four volumes left) I plan to continue my unfinished project of creating articles for all of Confucius' major disciples. Cheers, -Zanhe (talk) 16:23, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
I look forward to that; read quickly! Yunshui 雲水 22:01, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Kuneru train derailment

On 24 January 2017, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Kuneru train derailment, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 21:50, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you and Favor

Hi Zanhe

I have a request. Can you please add this photo http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh224/NicCase/GWR%20202/Nic%20Case%20RCB%20202mph-WIKI_zpsqugafm7x.jpg To wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nic_Case

It is not copyrighted. It was taken on mt camera and has been published in RC Car Action magazine. The RC Car I'm holding = I made. I'm having a hard time navigating the inner workings of Wikipedia, any help would be appreciated. Rcspeed (talk) 14:52, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

@Rcspeed: I'd love to help, but I can't find a notice on Photobucket declaring it's copyright free. We cannot upload the photo to Wikicommons unless we know for sure it's released under a free license or to the public domain. If you took the picture, you can upload it at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard and release it under the default free license, then it can be used in the article. Cheers, -Zanhe (talk) 17:26, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
@Rcspeed: Thanks for uploading the photo. I've added it to the article. Cheers, -Zanhe (talk) 19:53, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Ren Xinmin

On 14 February 2017, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Ren Xinmin, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 23:04, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Leslie Koo

On 20 February 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Leslie Koo, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that billionaire Leslie Koo's NT$400 million bribe resulted in an 11-year jail sentence for former Taiwanese president Chen Shui-bian? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Leslie Koo. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Leslie Koo), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 12:03, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Yue Yi-chin

Hello, Zanhe! I have just created a new Chinese history article, though in this case I ventured into modern times and wrote about Yue Yi-chin, a a flying ace of the Republic of China during the Second Sino-Japanese War. As you can see, the article currently has just one source, as I have found no other English material on him. I just wanted to ask if you perhaps know of other material about him in Chinese (for example from the Chinese wikipedia article, which seems to exist), and if you could add these additional infos about him to the article (of course only if you have the time to do so; I don't want to pressure you). ^^ Applodion (talk) 22:20, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

@Applodion: Sorry I was away from Wikipedia for a while, but saw the article on the main page yesterday, congratulations! Luckily Med Nyin was able to add more sources to the article. I've also found some which I'll add shortly. Thanks for writing the article! -Zanhe (talk) 23:43, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Turn to you

Dear Zanhe, the migrated provinces, commanderies and counties I wrote is so terrible, so I hope that you could rewrite the article. Thanks for the great contributions you have made. Zanhe兄台，僑州郡縣乃魏晉南北朝史重要一環，奈何余力有所不逮，希冀君能重新編纂，感激不盡。 Med Nyin (talk) 04:15, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

@Med Nyin: You're too modest. You've done a good job starting this complex topic, and I don't think I can write it better than you. I do have a book (History of Wei, Jin and Northern and Southern Dynasties 魏晉南北朝史 by Wang Zhongluo 王仲荦) which has quite a bit of detail on the subject, but I've been unexpectedly busy lately and will probably not be able to make substantial contributions to Wikipedia for at least several more months. Thanks for the great work you've done! -Zanhe (talk) 19:27, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
@Zanhe: Thank for your reply. It's all right, I would be busy, at least before May, too. As far as I'm concerned, Tian Yuqing (田余慶) 's works about Wei, Jin , Northern and Southern dynasties are rewarding reads. I am familiar with gazetteers (方志) and chorographies (地方誌), so it would be my pleasure if I could provide any tiny information for you in the future.Med Nyin (talk) 04:26, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Buhe (politician)

On 9 May 2017, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Buhe (politician), which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 06:53, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Page mover granted

Hello, Zanhe. Your account has been granted the "extendedmover" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and moving pages. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a redirect, and move subpages when moving the parent page(s).

Please take a moment to review Wikipedia:Page mover for more information on this user right, especially the criteria for moving pages without leaving redirect. Please remember to follow post-move cleanup procedures and make link corrections where necessary, including broken double-redirects when suppressredirect is used. This can be done using Special:WhatLinksHere. It is also very important that no one else be allowed to access your account, so you should consider taking a few moments to secure your password. As with all user rights, be aware that if abused, or used in controversial ways without consensus, your page mover status can be revoked.

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If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! Widr (talk) 06:52, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Qian Qichen

On 12 May 2017, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Qian Qichen, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 02:39, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

I have mentioned you in a sock-puppet investigation.

Greetings Zanhe ! I have mentioned you in a sock-puppet investigation. With regards, Terabar (talk) 11:07, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

@Terabar: I still think the users are highly suspicious, but I don't want to waste more time beating this dead horse. Wikipedia sets a high bar for blocking problem users and I wouldn't pursue this issue unless there is significant new evidence. By the way, there's no need to leave me a message when you've already pinged me. -Zanhe (talk) 07:29, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

McMahon Line

Why did you revert me .The edit is sourced.It was signed by Sir Henry McMahon and Lonchen Satra on behalf of the Tibetan Government but rejected by the chinese. Clearly sourced.Thank you.171.76.52.67 (talk) 21:57, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Because you removed an academic source published by Columbia University and replaced it with a piece by Claude Arpi, a French dentist who turned into an Indian writer. -Zanhe (talk) 01:52, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

RE

Got it.Thanks.--Tr56tr (talk) 12:16, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Golog Maqin Airport (IATA: GMQ)

Hi Zanhe, thanks for your update!. I noticed that the ICAO code you set for that airport, ie, ZLQL, does not match the one of the airport page, ie ZLGL, which is also the one on the ICAO list of codes for ZL. Have you a way to check which ICAO code (either ZLGL or ZLQL) is the right one? Thanks in advance! -- Denis.arnaud (talk) 15:19, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

@Denis.arnaud: Thanks for pointing out my mistake. Sorry I made a typo on List of airports by IATA code: G, which I've now corrected. ZLGL is the correct one, according to Carnoc, the Chinese airport portal site. -Zanhe (talk) 15:25, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Michael Ching (businessman) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Michael Ching (businessman) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Ching (businessman) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Softlavender (talk) 04:31, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

@Softlavender: did you perform WP:BEFORE to see how much coverage he's received from major media outlets all over the world, especially in Canada? It's ridiculous to claim he does not meet WP:GNG. By the way, most of the content was originally written by Colipon on Ching's father Cheng Weigao, and I merely split it off to its own article so that it does not appear WP:UNDUE on the father, so I believe Colipon should be notified of this discussion as well. Cheers and Happy Canada Day! -Zanhe (talk) 18:16, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Chinese students in the United States for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Chinese students in the United States is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chinese students in the United States until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. --Bejnar (talk) 04:32, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

@Bejnar: Why are you notifying me? I don't think I have anything to do with that article. -Zanhe (talk) 03:25, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Well, I've voted "delete" anyway. Good nomination. Cheers, -Zanhe (talk) 03:30, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Shaoyang Wugang Airport

Hi @Zanhe:, thanks for your contribution to Shaoyang Wugang Airport! Are you sure about the location of that airport? Indeed, Google Maps and Microsoft Bing Maps both report no track of anything like an airport at that location, or even nearby, and their maps seem to have been updated quite recently. See for instance https://tools.wmflabs.org/geohack/geohack.php?pagename=Shaoyang_Wugang_Airport&params=26.802_N_110.642_E_dim:3000_type:landmark_region:CN-43 . -- Denis.arnaud (talk) 10:01, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

@Denis.arnaud: I wrote the content but didn't add the coords. They were added by Jomo with this edit in April, with the comment "georef (Landsat scene LC81240412017086LGN00, 27 Mar 2017)", so it seems quite reliable. This airport is too new to show up on most maps, but the popular Chinese site amap.com does place the airport at about the same location (see http://ditu.amap.com/place/B0FFHU4FEO). By the way, I find Google and Bing quite useless in locating new Chinese airports. For example, almost four years after Daocheng Yading Airport was opened, it still doesn't show up on either site's map or satellite view. A conspiracy theorist unaware of Google's limitations resorted to calling the airport a "propaganda hoax" on the article talk page, LOL. -Zanhe (talk) 18:19, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Many thanks for the references, and sorry to have deleted inadvertently the section above! Since there have been flights over there, it must exist :) -- Denis.arnaud (talk) 08:44, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Qinglong, Liaoning

Hello Zanhe, thank you for nominating this borderline hoax for deletion. I actually also tried to find the place, and it turns out to be possibly a misguided description of zh:孤山镇 (东港市). Not sure where Qinglong (青龙？) comes from though. Thought it was interesting. Anyways, great admirer of your work as usual. Alex ShihTalk 12:04, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

@Alex Shih: Thanks for deleting this as well as the Gan (state) hoax. Also saw your Chinese Expeditionary Force on DYK (although too late to review it). Great work! -Zanhe (talk) 04:39, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Guangming Daily

On 25 July 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Guangming Daily, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Guangming Daily was one of only three national newspapers published in China during the Cultural Revolution? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Guangming Daily), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex ShihTalk 00:02, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Chinese stadium PROD's

Do you have any further sources to back up your claim that stadiums like Xilingol Stadium are "verifiable major stadium[s]"? The whole reason I put them up for deletion is that the only sources I could find that confirmed vital information like capacity and use were the World of Stadiums pages cited in the articles. WoS is a self-published and therefore unreliable source. Given the language barrier, it's entirely possible that I may have missed something, but as it stands these articles do not appear to meet the general notability guideline. Thanks in advance. Sir Sputnik (talk) 20:14, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

@Sir Sputnik: It's ridiculous to claim stadiums costing hundreds of millions of dollars, with capacities to host 10,000s as non-notable. You're right about WoS not being a reliable source, but places like Xilingol Stadium are local landmarks hosting numerous events and Chinese sources are easy to find, e.g. [1] [2]. I've added the sources to the article. -Zanhe (talk) 21:17, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

ARBIPA sanctions alert

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Discretionary sanctions is a system of conduct regulation designed to minimize disruption to controversial topics. This means uninvolved administrators can impose sanctions for edits relating to the topic that do not adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, our standards of behavior, or relevant policies. Administrators may impose sanctions such as editing restrictions, bans, or blocks. This message is to notify you that sanctions are authorised for the topic you are editing. Before continuing to edit this topic, please familiarise yourself with the discretionary sanctions system. Don't hesitate to contact me or another editor if you have any questions.

Please note that all Sino-Indian disputes are covered under the ARBIPA sanctions. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 16:35, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

@Kautilya3: Thanks for the heads-up. I wasn't familiar with the ARBIPA. -Zanhe (talk) 18:08, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Nationality-based arguments

Hi Zanhe, I am afraid I have to warn you against an excessive use of nationality-based arguments in discussions. Some examples below:

  • "The deleted Chinese source is not neutral, and neither is this Indian one" [3]
  • "...two famous British/Australian scholars, as not disinterested, while you seem to think Parshotam Mehra, an Indian scholar, is disinterested?" [4]
  • "...especially by scholars from an involved country" [5]
  • "...as close as you can get (outside India, at least)," "I've yet to read any Western scholar who fundamentally disagrees with Maxwell and Whiting." [6]
  • "Even his critics (who are mostly from an Indian background)"[7]
  • "your conclusion of Maxwell's bias is not compatible with most Western scholars' view of him." [8]

I also notice you have been engaging in this kind of dialogue going back to 2012.

Wikepedia sourcing is based reliability of sources, not their nationalities. Given the subject matter, certain amount of discussion of the location of the source is inevitable. However, this should be mainly based on the place of publication, not the nationality of the authors.

Another editor recently got indefinitely blocked for similar labelling of the sources. You would do well to study the discussion on his talk page. If you would like I can ask admin RegentsPark to advise you. Given that you are an experienced editor, I hope that won't be necessary. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 16:37, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

@Kautilya3: Your not-so-thinly veiled threat is noted. And you're completely twisting my position. Neutrality is one of the Five pillars of Wikipedia, making it more important than WP:RS. You've been using a lot of RS, which is great, but many of them are not neutral and should be avoided, or if really unavoidable, attributed per WP:Biased. I mention nationalities of the authors only when they're from countries involved in the conflicts, and therefore presumed to be non-neutral unless proven otherwise. That's why I've always used Western (i.e., more or less neutral) academic sources in articles related to Sino-Indian disputes whenever possible. And when I have to use a non-neutral source (e.g. when stating a country's official position), I always attribute them. And it would be advisable for you to do the same. -Zanhe (talk) 18:40, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
We use attribution when there are multiple points of view among the RS. Nationalities do not matter. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 18:48, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
"Nationalities do not matter" - now that's a ridiculous statement. Imagine the article Kashmir conflict relying overwhelmingly on Pakistani academics, or State of Palestine on Israeli scholarship, or Annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation on Russian publications, and so on. Articles like Doklam are now dominated by sources from an involved country, which greatly damages the credibility of Wikipedia. -Zanhe (talk) 19:03, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
WP:BIASED says "Common sources of bias include political, financial, religious, philosophical, or other beliefs". Nationality is not mentioned. As an example of demonstrating bias, you can look at my own rudimentary effrot, where I have shown that Maxwell makes statements that are contradicted by other reliable sources. If I were to provide a reliable source that explicitly says that he was biased, that would be even stronger. That is how we deal bias, not by speculation based on nationality.
RegentsPark, it looks like your advice is indeed needed. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:55, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
LOL. You've been arguing against something that is common sense, and now admin shopping? There's a noticeboard for resolving this kind of disputes, if you're not aware. -Zanhe (talk) 22:13, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
@Kautilya3: I went ahead and posted a notice on the NPOV noticeboard. -Zanhe (talk) 23:00, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Liscum Bowl

Hi Z, I don't remember how to use wiki, but still have your link... hopefully you'll get it. I wanted to ask a question on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liscum_Bowl but don't know how. Li Hongzhang died in 1901 ... and the footnote 1 - page 306 didn't mention Li either. Hope to bring this to the author, maybe s/he can make it clearer? Thank you. SkiggSkigg (talk) 03:26, 8 September 2017 (UTC)Skigg

@Skigg: Good to hear from you again. Sorry I haven't been very active myself lately and wasn't able to reply sooner. This source does mention Li Hongzhang, apparently Li ordered the bowl to be made but died before it was presented. I edited the article to clarify the issue. Cheers, -Zanhe (talk) 23:20, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Unsourced edits in Great Leap Forward

Hey I saw you reverted some edits to the Great Leap Forward page with the reason that they were unsourced. Do you agree to support the addition of those statements if I provide sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:151:C000:540:6576:7C01:1B20:A455 (talk) 23:33, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Yes, if the sources are neutral and reliable, preferably academic. -Zanhe (talk) 23:27, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Minor edit

Are you really "Zanhe", Is "Zanhe" killed by now day "Zanhe"? Why become more radical? 36.71.112.21 (talk) 20:34, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

@ADHZ07111989: I know it's you. I'm alive and well, thank you. I suggest that you start reading real history books and stop writing alternate history. -Zanhe (talk) 23:08, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

New articles

Hello Zanhe! I just wanted to tell you that I wrote four new articles about Chinese history, namely the War of Qi's succession, the Warlord Rebellion in northeastern Shandong, the Han–Liu War and the Zhili Army (Fengtian clique). In case you have more infos (or even images?) for these topics like you had for several of my other creations, it would be great if you could add them! Applodion (talk) 14:37, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

@Applodion:, wow you're simply awesome! Your articles are so comprehensive I don't think I'm capable of adding anything useful. Incidentally, while you were busy writing about the history of Shandong, I went to province (Jinan, Linzi, Qingdao) earlier this year and visited quite a few impressive museums and archaeological sites. And learned a lot about Qi (there's a brand new Qi State Museum in Linzi that's very beautiful and educational but devoid of visitors)! The province's history is as complex and much longer than any major European state. I've also finally finished reading the entire The Cambridge History of China, after much delay. My conclusion is that I could spend the rest of my life writing about Chinese history and wouldn't be able to scratch its surface. Sigh! -Zanhe (talk) 19:09, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, and yes, it is indeed true that Shandong has a varied and long history - but then again, that is not surprising, considering that it bigger than many European countries like Austria and, as you said, has an even longer history of post-Stone Age culture. On the positive side, however, the fact that all of China has such an amazing history of which little has been covered on Wikipedia gives us the chance to write about it. ^^ Applodion (talk) 22:03, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

the land size of tang dynasty

from the historic atlas of China，it clearly shows that the Tang territory reached its maximum size in the year of 669. It should be somehow included in the size page, because the size of the Dynasty was a direct reflection of the national strength. It showed the military power, human and natural resource of the nation. How could the Tang Dynasty of China be called a golden age without mentioning its maximum size? If you have a better data for this year, please do use it. Gl72099 (talk) 02:13, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

@Gl72099: I agree it would be nice to have an estimated area for the empire, but you cannot invent a rough figure of 12370000 km2 from Tan Qixiang's atlas, as he never used the figure. That's WP:OR. It's especially bad for a featured article such as Tang dynasty. This is the kind of material that can get it delisted as an FA. Cheers, -Zanhe (talk) 02:19, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

I could not find a better data so far. This data I found on Chinese website. I did not invent it. But, my point is the maximum size of the Dynasty should somehow be mentioned in the size page, , so if you can find a better data, please do use it. And if you can figure out a solution, it will be great. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gl72099 (talk • contribs) 02:41, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Also we can visionly tell the size was around that number by comparing to the map of Qing Dynasty. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gl72099 (talk • contribs) 02:53, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Ancient countries did not have fixed, well demarcated borders like today, and their areas are notoriously hard to estimate. If you cannot find better sources, then please leave the numbers out. -Zanhe (talk) 04:14, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Confidence

It always makes me nervous when someone is so confident that they can make rapid-fire edits, like the 50+ in less than two hours I'm seeing right now. Looking around I came across one edit that strikes me as an example of 'confidence' that makes me uneasy.

It is rare enough here that people are actually able to supply references for statements. So I'm taken aback a bit that a referenced statement can be so casually thrown on the garbage heap with only a "nah, ain't true".

Can you reassure me? Shenme (talk) 01:47, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

@Shenme: I wrote Pan Fusheng, Wu Zhipu's predecessor and arch-rival, and brought it to GA status. I've read a lot about Chinese history in general and PRC politics in particular. Three years ago I started a draft on the tragic Xinyang incident (see User:Zanhe/Xinyang Incident) for which Wu Zhipu was largely responsible, but it became too depressing to continue. Wu was removed after the GLF and could not be responsible for whatever happened during the Cultural Revolution. He was actually attacked and died in 1967. I hope you're reassured. -Zanhe (talk) 02:11, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
Yes. Edit summaries are useful in this regard. I can understand it being depressing, yet that these things are recorded is important. Thank you.
The "On this day..." today has a link to the Slánský trial show trial. 16 years later the government says "Oops, wrong verdict." That stupidity done today will be recognized tomorrow should be in the minds of everyone in government. Sadly, it takes decades in PRC and Taiwan for any glimpse of "Oops" Shenme (talk) 01:47, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
Well, I did write a fairly detailed edit summary when removing the referenced, but obviously wrong, statement. Add I just found out that User:Curro2 who added the stuff was blocked last year. -Zanhe (talk) 01:58, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Hou Zongbin

On 19 November 2017, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Hou Zongbin, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 23:44, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

New Page Reviewing

Hello, Zanhe.

I've seen you editing recently and you seem knowledgeable about Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.
Would you please consider becoming a New Page Reviewer? Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines; currently Wikipedia needs experienced users at this task. (After gaining the flag, patrolling is not mandatory. One can do it at their convenience). But kindly read the tutorial before making your decision. Thanks. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 18:06, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the review

Dear Zanhe,

Thank you very much for your review of my article on Xing Zi Ming Chu. I'm really glad it's been well received (despite its obscure subject matter!) and that it's finally available to read. Your comments made my day, I'll definitely contribute more on early China as time allows. Have a good day!

Yours sincerely,

Ximenez Kin Ximenez Kin (talk) 15:18, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

PS I have just submitted a new article for review. It's not quite in my field of expertise, I'd appreciate a fresh pair of eyes taking a look at it. Ximenez Kin (talk) 07:39, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

@Ximenez Kin: you're too modest. For something that's not your field of expertise, your article is better than 99% of Wikipedia articles out there! I thought of writing Yiqu myself (when this obscure kingdom suddenly became well known because of The Legend of Mi Yue), but don't think I could do half as good a job as you've done. Reading your article made my day! -Zanhe (talk) 02:45, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
@Ximenez Kin: I just nominated your articles for DYK, so that more people can read them. See nomination pages: Template:Did you know nominations/Xing Zi Ming Chu and Template:Did you know nominations/Yiqu. Please feel free to suggest more hooks or make comments there. Cheers, -Zanhe (talk) 04:36, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
@Zanhe: Wow, thanks very much! I'd be especially interested in the reaction to the XZMC article, ancient Chinese texts are a favourite topic of mine. Thanks again for the encouragement, and the warm glow of kudos. Ximenez Kin (talk) 06:20, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
@Ximenez Kin: That's awesome! It's not every day that you meet someone both interested and competent in ancient Chinese texts! If you have time, Taiyi Shengshui is in a sorry state and Kongzi Shilun doesn't yet have an article. I thought of taking a stab at them, but I'm more comfortable with history and archaeology than ancient texts and philosophy. -Zanhe (talk) 06:56, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Lady Gouyi

Hello! Your submission of Lady Gouyi at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! seav (talk) 18:22, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Regarding the Wandu article

Here are the duplicate citations that I merged:

[1]

[2]

[3]

This is the citation that I merged them into:

[4] (I removed the reference name so that it doesn't get mixed up with citation #3.)

As you can see, the three original citations (that I merged into one) are from the same page of the same book. Furthermore, my other edits to the passages are based on the cited source. If you have any questions, please let me know. Bamnamu (talk) 09:38, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

@Bamnamu: You're correct. I misread the diffs, sorry about that. Cheers, -Zanhe (talk) 03:09, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
No problem! Cheers and happy holidays. Bamnamu (talk) 03:36, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Charles Roger Tennant (1996). A history of Korea (illustrated ed.). Kegan Paul International. p. 22. ISBN 0-7103-0532-X. capital on the middle reaches of the Yalu near the modern Chinese town of Ji'an, calling it 'Hwando'. By developing both their iron weapons and their political organization, they had reached a stage where in the turmoil that accompanied the break-up of the Han empire they were able to threaten the Chinese colonies now under the nominal control of the
  2. ^ Charles Roger Tennant (1996). A history of Korea (illustrated ed.). Kegan Paul International. p. 22. ISBN 0-7103-0532-X. Wei. In 242, under King Tongch'ŏn, they attacked a Chinese fortress near the mouth of the Yalu in an attempt to cut the land route across Liao, in return for which the Wei invaded them in 244 and sacked Hwando.
  3. ^ Tennant, Charles Roger. A History of Korea. Routledge. p. 22. ISBN 9780710305329. Retrieved 10 October 2016. Soon after, the Wei fell to the Jin and Koguryŏ grew stronger, until in 313 they finally succeeded in occupying Lelang and bringing to an end the 400 years of China's presence in the peninsula, a period sufficient to ensure that for the next 1,500 it would remain firmly within the sphere of its culture. After the fall of the Jin in 316, the proto-Mongol Xianbei occupied the North of China, of which the Murong clan took the Shandong area, moved up to the Liao, and in 341 sacked and burned the Koguryŏ capital at Hwando. They took away some thousands of prisoners to provide cheap labour to build more walls of their own, and in 346 went on to wreak even greater destruction on Puyŏ, hastening what seems to have been a continuing migration of its people into the north-eastern area of the peninsula, but Koguryŏ, though temporarily weakened, would soon rebuild its walls and continue to expand.
  4. ^ Tennant, Roger (2012). History Of Korea. Routledge. p. 22. ISBN 9781136167058. Retrieved 29 October 2017.

He Siyuan

Hi Zanhe, I reviewed your article in DYK nominations, in which you relinked People's Publishing House, is it same which we have article People's Literature Publishing House? if it so please link it. Thanks Gfosankar (talk) 14:49, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

@Gfosankar: thanks for your review. No, they are not the same. People's Publishing House is China's premier academic publisher, while People's Literature focuses on fiction. -Zanhe (talk) 17:49, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Hou Zongbin

Hello! Your submission of Hou Zongbin at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:50, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Wrong years

The years are wrong for a reason. The chinese calendar and the Julian calendar ended in a different date for every year. I realised that many scholars directly translate the years across two calendars by only considering the "YEAR" but not the month and date. Sometimes (the case of Cao Wei and Qin), the dynasties ended in December of the chinese calendar, which was already the next year of the Julian Calendar. This difference was unnoticed by many scholars. I can prove the years are incorrect by using a Chinese-Western calendar translator. --Alvin Lee 00:00, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

  • Jin Dynasty

According to the book of Jin: "泰始元年（265AD）冬十二月(December)丙寅(17)...即洛陽宮幸太極前殿", Which means the first Jin Emperor ascended to his throne on 17 Dec, 265. However, the date is in the form of Chinese calendar. If translated to Julian calendar, it should be 8 February, 266. According to the calendar translator provided by Academia Sinica [9] --Alvin Lee 00:12, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

  • Qin Dynasty

According to the book of Han: "元年(206BC)冬十月(October)，五星聚於東井。沛公至霸上。秦王子嬰素車白馬，係頸以組，封皇帝璽符節，降枳道旁。", which translates to "The King of Qin surrendered to Liu Bang in October, 206BC". However, October is considered to be the beginning of the year in Qin Dynasty, because Qin Shi Huang decided to make October as the first month of the year (秦始皇统一中国后，以颛顼（zhuan xu）历为基础，以建亥之月（即夏历十月）为岁首 [10] 秦建亥而仍曰「冬十月」，是改年也。[11]) Hence, Even though the year was written as 206BC, it was actually still well within the year of 207BC.--Alvin Lee 00:19, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

@Alvin Lee: I understand what you're saying. Chinese calendar years don't perfectly align with Western calendar and they may be off for a few months. However, the exact dates of ancient calendar years are contentious and difficult to calculate. We can't just change the longstanding, conventionally accepted years based on an online tool and our own interpretation of primary sources. -Zanhe (talk) 03:20, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Yang Shoujing

On 12 December 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Yang Shoujing, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Yang Shoujing (pictured) published the most complete and scholarly historical atlas of China of his time, and "revolutionized" Japanese calligraphy? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Yang Shoujing. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Yang Shoujing), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:22, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Ge Jianxiong

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DYK for Lady Gouyi

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DYK for Li Shangfu

On 18 December 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Li Shangfu, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that General Li Shangfu spent 31 years at the Xichang Satellite Launch Center, where he supervised the launch of the Chang'e 2 lunar probe? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Li Shangfu. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Li Shangfu), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for Ge Jianxiong

On 19 December 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ge Jianxiong, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ge Jianxiong, who did not go to college, and Zhou Zhenhe, a mining engineer, were awarded China's first two doctoral degrees in humanities? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ge Jianxiong. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ge Jianxiong), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 00:02, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Zhou Zhenhe

On 19 December 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Zhou Zhenhe, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ge Jianxiong, who did not go to college, and Zhou Zhenhe, a mining engineer, were awarded China's first two doctoral degrees in humanities? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Zhou Zhenhe), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 00:02, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

i am request for u help

hi i want have a talk with u for the writing about sunzhigang incident,i am a postgraduate in China,i have a few question about u writing.i will be pleasure for u reply. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.27.238.180 (talk) 11:41, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

I didn't write Sun Zhigang incident. The original content was written by User:Shen.shuren in Custody and repatriation. I merely split off the stuff about Sun Zhigang to its own article and copy-edited it. Feel free to ask me questions, but I may not be able to answer them. -Zanhe (talk) 08:13, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Writer's Barnstar
大佬 Otz Wi24rd (talk) 15:24, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
@Wi24rd: Thank you! -Zanhe (talk) 08:14, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Hou Zongbin

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Alex Shih (talk) 00:03, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Always nice seeing your names around, Zanhe! I'll be carrying more responsibilities for 2018, but if there are any articles that I can help out, please let me know! Happy holidays, Alex Shih (talk) 09:28, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks Alex Shih! I will probably need your help taking care of our old friend ProfessorJane and her countless socks :). Happy holidays! -Zanhe (talk) 19:55, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Material you included in the above articles appears to have been copied from the web page http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a591531.pdf, which though it was prepared under contract for the US Government, is marked as Copyright © 2013 CNA. The copyright notice goes on to state that the material cannot be reproduced for commercial purposes, which means that it cannot be copied here, because our license does permit commercial use. Unfortunately, for copyright reasons, the content had to be removed. Please leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:41, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

@Diannaa: This really sucks, but you're right. There's no copyright notice for that document on the DTIC website, so I thought it was a regular US Mil publication and missed the notice in the PDF. I've reverted more of my edits, restoring the articles to their original condition. I'm leaving soon for the holidays and will work on the articles when I come back. Thanks and happy holidays! -Zanhe (talk) 23:10, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Chi (surname)

Hello, Zanhe. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Chi (surname), for deletion because I don't think it meets our criteria for inclusion. If you don't want the article deleted:

  1. edit the page
  2. remove the text that looks like this: {{proposed deletion/dated...}}
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Also, be sure to explain why you think the article should be kept in your edit summary or on the article's talk page. If you don't do so, it may be deleted later anyway.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.

PamD 11:01, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

WAM Address Collection

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DYK for Xiong Huizhen

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Alex Shih (talk) 00:03, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Xing Zi Ming Chu

— Maile (talk) 00:03, 31 December 2017 (UTC)