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I have mentioned about Rahul Sinha's brother in the hook. Can you please re-review? Btw thanks for reviewing it so quickly. Have a nice day! :) JimCarter11:50, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
Hey, Zanhe. I'm working on an unfinished draft article in my userspace and I'd like your opinion on what it should be called. There is no generally agreed-upon English language name for the subject. I have been considering Autumn Hunt (the current name in the draft, translated from the Chinese name), Qiuxian (the Chinese name), Imperial hunt of the Qing dynasty (a descriptive name), Imperial hunt (Qing dynasty) (a variant of the previous name), just Imperial hunt (since the name is not currently being used), and Mulan hunt (after the name of the hunting site). What do you think is the best name? Feel free to suggest alternatives I haven't thought of. Thanks! --Difference engine (talk) 03:09, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
Difference engine, I don't really have enough knowledge about the subject to offer a truly informed opinion. A Google books search for "imperial hunt"+qing yields more results than "autumn hunt"+qing. So if I have to take a pick, I'll choose "Imperial hunt of the Qing dynasty" (imperial hunt by itself seems too broad), with redirects from the other names. Pinging CWH, Madalibi, Nlu, and Philg88 for their insights. -Zanhe (talk) 05:33, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
No worries LlywelynII. I figured it was an inadvertent mistake. I have no issue with your hatnote edit, although the redirect seems questionable. -Zanhe (talk) 05:14, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for the explanation; I've deleted it as a hoax. A11 is virtually impossible to prove, unless it's something like "The Later Sui Empire was founded by Billy in his back yard yesterday". I don't know the history of the period, and I wasn't aware that I should be looking for evidence of a hoax until reading your message. Nyttend (talk) 05:25, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Zanhe (talk) please stop your unexplained deletions and vandalism of the page or you will be blocked. This is a warning to you! Please discuss any concerns you have on the Talk page instead of persistently deleting information rendering the article useless for readers. 64.134.234.101 (talk) 04:56, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I have to say you're the most persistent and evasive IP vandal I've ever encountered. Which VPN do you use? If you really want to make an argument about the merit of your edits, I suggest you register an account, and not pretend to be a new anon user every few weeks. -Zanhe (talk) 05:03, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
you made this article a redirect, with the rationale that it was not a well defined concept.
Most of the statements there did not depend on definition, however. What can be done?
Kind regards Sarcelles (talk) 15:35, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
We don't normally have separate articles about ill-delimited city propers. The best place to discuss the city proper is the city article itself, as the proper is by definition central to the city. Of course, if you disagree with me, feel free to restore the article, and I'll start an AfD to solicit opinions from other users. -Zanhe (talk) 00:33, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Pan Fusheng you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Rationalobserver -- Rationalobserver (talk) 17:41, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
ANI edit
Sorry about the revert - my phone froze on me, and I didn't realize I had done it. I apologize for any frustration it caused, thanks for undoing it. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 19:49, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks (once again) for the knowledgeable input on Gansu Flying Horse. I actually wanted to reference the horse for a section I'm drafting on urban folklore/ legends concerning Zhou Enlai (one legend was that Nixon saw the horse and put it in his pocket & Zhou got it back). I was surprised to find that there was no article on it and got sucked in.
But I wonder if we want to keep the info on the ban on showing it abroad without checking how long it lasted and whether it's still in force. I originally thought not to include this info because there is a headnote at List of Chinese cultural relics forbidden to be exhibited abroad which says that it's out of date, and the two references are indeed from 2003. What's your thought?
CWH, thanks a lot for creating the article. I know what it feels like to get "sucked in", it happens to me a lot too. :) As for the ban on showing it abroad, it's definitely still in force. The article is out of date because it only shows the first batch of 64 items, while two more batches were added in 2012 and 2013. The zh-wiki article has more information. -Zanhe (talk) 22:41, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
On 9 February 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lu Zhaolin, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that poet Lu Zhaolin drowned himself after suffering from a debilitating disease for years? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lu Zhaolin. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
What's that supposed to mean, LlywelynII? If it's a joke I don't find it funny. I already waste way too much time dealing with vandals and disruptive users, and giving them more straws to hold on to only means less time for me to write content. -Zanhe (talk) 04:31, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Show me these sources lol, you can't just accuse me without proof.......The US doesn't have the GDP per capita that the article says it does, its much lower. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imthemanofdoom (talk • contribs) 06:05, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
The source is already cited in the article, can't you read? For your convenience, here it is again. Your edits such as this one messed up all the numbers. If you do it one more time you'll be reported to WP:ANI for vandalism. -Zanhe (talk) 06:38, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Lol, except it's the truth, those sources clearly state that the US only has a GDP per capita of around $40 thousand and not $55 thousand, you must be a typical American. If you change one of my edits again I'll be reporting you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imthemanofdoom (talk • contribs) 17:41, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
If you cannot read a simple table, you have no business editing Wikipedia. Either you're grossly incompetent or just trolling. Either way, I'm not going to waste more time trying to reason with you. -Zanhe (talk) 21:59, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
Also, when the word "Turkey" was changed to "Turkgay" on the Turkish Armed Forces article how come you didn't do anything about it? I find it very offensive that you only correct articles to do with America, I know you Americans can't really comprehend the World outside of US borders because of your poor education system but at least put up an effort. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imthemanofdoom (talk • contribs) 17:54, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
but I don't even think we disagree generally. In that instance, you weren't wrong: you were just following along with a counterproductive misinterpretation of one of the rules. But from the reaction of other editors when I brought it to their attention—"hey, yeah, we should just change the guideline, thx, ok, 88"—it's obvious that they're just ratcheting up standards as a kludge to deal with the backlog. Didn't seem to be any support for just keeping the rule as it existed, so I'll go back around and source/delete some of the sections til it works. — LlywelynII23:23, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
On 12 February 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Yang Jiong, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the future poet Yang Jiong was appointed to the prestigious Hongwen College at the age of nine? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Yang Jiong. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 15 February 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Zhang Ruoxu, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that although only two of Zhang Ruoxu's poems have survived, one of them was called "the poem of all poems" by Wen Yiduo? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Zhang Ruoxu. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 26 February 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Liu Han, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the recently executed billionaire Liu Han once survived an assassination attempt by another billionaire, who was also executed? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Liu Han. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 3 March 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hu Die, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that "Movie Queen" Butterfly Wu(pictured) became the mistress of China's spymaster Dai Li and the mother-in-law of President Li Zongren? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hu Die. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Hi, Zanhe, I am not sure how interested you are in this, but I have began the draft for an article on Xi Jinping's anti-corruption campaign and I wanted to ask you to take a look and give any comments or advice you might have. Thank you! By the way I've seen the discussion at Lhasa, I really sympathize with your point of view. Let's see how it goes. Colipon+(Talk) 19:22, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
@Colipon: That's a very nice and comprehensive article indeed! A bit more referencing and it can be nominated for GA, IMO. I'm only familiar with a few individual cases, and far less knowledgeable with the overall campaign than you are. So I probably won't be of much help (not that it's needed anyway). As for the Lhasa saga, the discussion is getting a bit too heated for my taste (and I've been too busy lately to get more involved). Although I disagree with Aymatth2, he has doubtless done lots of useful work on the subject, and I won't be too distressed if he prevails in the end. -Zanhe (talk) 02:42, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
DYK for Kang-i Sun Chang
On 6 March 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Kang-i Sun Chang, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that when Yale professor Kang-i Sun Chang was a young girl, her father was imprisoned in Taiwan and her grandfather committed suicide in China? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kang-i Sun Chang. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Xu Lai (actress) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Maile66 -- Maile66 (talk) 14:21, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
I had no idea what to do, whom to ask! If you hadn't done the DYK review, I never would have learnt.
So one just cuts out areas of the code that is in square brackets? the [tt_news][backPid]
Do you know why the music school code did it that way in the first place? are these placeholders to remind the webadministartor/programmer whatever, to change them when they migrate the news to an archive on their webpage?--Wuerzele (talk) 19:51, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
Wuerzele, I think the problem is that the square brackets in the url conflict with the Wikipedia syntax. I use Google Chrome, which automatically encodes the brackets when I copy-and-paste the url. I have no idea why the school uses brackets in their urls. -Zanhe (talk) 20:25, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for your expertise - there are a few in prep
@Victuallers: Thanks for generously crediting me in your nominations. I don't think I've done enough work (yet) on those two to deserve DYK credit. But I'll try my best to improve them. Cheers! -Zanhe (talk) 19:39, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Oh don't worry, I'm happy to share anyway ... and if you have time to polish the rougher edges then that would be great. I'm particularly stuck with Jiang's later life as we could do with more about her later affair. Cheers Victuallers (talk) 19:46, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
S thanks for the improved quality. In your opinion did Jiang marry the first guy she was betrothed to? The bio source says that she broke a "marriage agreement". Do you think this was an agreement to get married or a marriage contract? This is important as our hook says "husband" and maybe it should say fiance? What d'y'think? Victuallers (talk) 21:35, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Victuallers, I don't think she should be considered to be the wife of the first guy. She was promised as a future bride to the Zha family when she was a child (a common practice in pre-Communist China), but the sources are clear that they never officially wed, as she eloped with Xu Beihong before she was taken to the Zha family. I think it's better to change the hook to say fiance. -Zanhe (talk) 21:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
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Hi Zanhe -- thanks again for all your help and attention. I apologise that I did a "hit and run" job at James Whitford Bashford, only adding some basic references without using them to make a respectable article. So I wonder if it wouldn't be better to leave the "stub" tag in order to keep it on the "stub" lists and (perhaps!) attract someone with more time or knowledge. The article is certainly short enough to deserve the stub tag and doesn't mention major parts of his life, his presidency of Ohio Wesleyan and the mission work in China. Cheers in any case, ch (talk) 19:15, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
@CWH: feel free to restore the stub tag if you think it's better that way. I find the stub tags distracting and add clutter to the page, and tend to remove them when articles meet minimum start-level standard. But that's only my personal preference, and I'll defer to your more informed judgment. Cheers, -Zanhe (talk) 21:05, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick reply. I agree with you in principle about stub tags, but I guess would set the bar for removing them just a little higher. Maybe the next editor will be annoyed enough to look at the references and expand the article! ch (talk) 22:27, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi, great work on Liu Geping! I actually clicked on a red-link for him initially thinking he was some 'low-hanging fruit', a 15-minute write up to get done and over with, but through writing that article I discovered what a fascinating figure I had stumbled upon by coincidence. Thank you for adding the scholarly references and the copyediting! It might well make GA. Colipon+(Talk) 04:55, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for creating the article, Colipon. There's really no "low-hanging fruit" of people born in the early 20th-century China. By the end of the Cultural Revolution, their lives would have been turned upside down five or six times, which is why I find their stories so fascinating. On the other hand, every biography is a major commitment and I hesitate to start writing them. -Zanhe (talk) 04:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Nice one! Amazes me how many sizable towns are still missing like that! Do you know a reliable source for population and area data these days? I'm not sure Baidu is really a reliable source, isn't it a wiki? If I could get hold of some lists with population I might have another run starting some of the missing township level divisions.♦ Dr. Blofeld19:17, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
@Dr. Blofeld: I know, most towns/townships of China are quite large (with 10,000s of people), and about 30,000 of them are missing (don't even mention the 600,000+ villages)! I've also been thinking about creating them for a long time, but intimidated by the scale of the task. Unfortunately I don't know of any single source where the population/area data are available. County government websites usually have them, but they're scattered about and not easy to find. I don't think Baidu is considered a reliable source, and it doesn't have all the data either, does it? -Zanhe (talk) 08:20, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
On 18 April 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Zhou Qunfei, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that former migrant worker Zhou Qunfei started a touchscreen company and became China's richest woman with a net worth of US$10 billion? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Zhou Qunfei. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Hey Zanhe, I saw your request over at WP:RFP when I was filing my own request because the vandal who kept insisting Cao Cao was an emperor came back. What amazing coincidence that ProfessorJane's socks also came back to make similar changes on Huang (surname) and Lord Chunshen! I know we have discussed this before and I had my doubts, but now I'm fully convinced the same person is behind all these edits. Let's help each other out, and I'll have your back if you decide to take further action against this person. _dk (talk) 07:54, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
@Underbar dk: This is a particularly persistent and elusive sockmaster whom I've had the misfortune of having to deal with for more than a year. The person's main interest is aggrandizing the surname Huang, calling Lord Chunshen (Huang Xie) a king, Huang (state) a kingdom, and Huang (surname) a "royal" and "imperial" surname, etc. I don't know what made him/her branch out to Cao Cao. Let's both keep an eye on all these articles. -Zanhe (talk) 08:12, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
On 23 April 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Qian Xiuling, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Qian Xiuling(pictured) interceded with the German General Falkenhausen to save nearly a hundred Belgians from execution? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Qian Xiuling. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 24 April 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Liu Geping, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Muslim communist leader Liu Geping accompanied the Dalai Lama on his tour of China? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Liu Geping. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 24 April 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Jiang Biwei, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Xu Beihong painted Jiang Biwei several times (example pictured), but an $11 million nude is possibly not of her, nor by him? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jiang Biwei. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 26 April 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Xiao Wangdong, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Lieutenant General Xiao Wangdong(pictured) briefly served as China's Minister of Culture, before he was purged and imprisoned for nine years? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Xiao Wangdong. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 27 April 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sun Duoci, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that art professor Xu Beihong regarded his student Sun Duoci(pictured, in a painting by Xu) as a "painter of genius"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sun Duoci. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Hi Zanhe, just wanted to say thanks very much for doing such a thorough review (and also for suggesting to list it for review in the first place.) Thanks, Hybernator (talk) 01:33, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Hybernator, it's always a pleasure to read and review your expertly written articles about Burmese history, whether for DYK or GA. I've learned so much from them! Drop me a note if you decide to nominate your other articles for GA. I'll be glad to review them. Cheers, -Zanhe (talk) 18:45, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
That's very kind of you, Victuallers. You're the one who really deserves the barnstar for researching and writing about this relatively unknown heroine. It's always a pleasure to work with you. -Zanhe (talk) 18:41, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi, can I interest you and page stalkers in this project? For starting missing articles from other wikis. All about addressing systematic bias. You could use it to list lots of missing Chinese articles at Wikipedia:WikiProject Intertranswiki/Chinese, ones which are priority for starting. If so, put your name down on the project talk page and add a tick by your name. Even if not, at some point we'll do some Chinese stub of the week (see further down project page what I've started) drives and will need your input on what is missing! I'm aware that other wikis the quality isn't always great for translation, but the idea really is to identify notable missing articles and aim to start a lot of them with improved sourcing/content.♦ Dr. Blofeld11:58, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
@Dr. Blofeld: Thanks! I hope more people will join. The main issue is the dearth of active editors. There are tens of thousands of China-related articles that need to be written, but only a handful of active editors writing them. -Zanhe (talk) 18:59, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Exactly, and if Baidu is anything to go by I'd guess there's well over 1 million missing articles on China!♦ Dr. Blofeld19:02, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Can you do me a favour and create a list of 20 missing Chinese rivers and use Template:Ill with the zh interlinks? I'll be adding a Chinese rivers topic focus.♦ Dr. Blofeld08:16, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
On 6 May 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Qi Jianguo, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Qi Jianguo is one of the few serving Chinese generals with actual battle experience? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Qi Jianguo. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Hi Zanhe, since you moved that page I've said to myself: Well, he seems to know what he's doing. I say this not because of MOS:ZH, but because it now reads "Madiao" instead of "Ma diao", as described by Andrew Lo in his article for the IPCS, which I have. Please tell me, where is the difference ? KrenakaroreTK18:17, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
@Simon Burchell: Yes definitely. Sorry about the delay; I've been distracted by a few other matters. I'm almost done, just need to finish the write-up. Cheers, -Zanhe (talk) 04:06, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
On 17 May 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ouyang Yuqian, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Ouyang Yuqian(pictured) is considered one of the three founders of Chinese spoken drama? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ouyang Yuqian. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 28 May 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hong Shen, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Harvard-educated playwright Hong Shen wrote the first published Chinese film script, but it was never filmed? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hong Shen. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 28 May 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cao'e River, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Cao'e River is named after a teenage girl who drowned herself about 1,900 years ago? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cao'e River. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
What a sorry mess! I've made a first stab at copyediting and taking out the garbage, but beyond that there's not much I can do. This is a subject that I know little about. -Zanhe (talk) 21:31, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Yup! Thanks Zanhe. In another week or so I'll be asking you for some more Chinese rivers to put up on the board!♦ Dr. Blofeld08:51, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I am trying my best to be unbiased in filling in the holes in East Asian and Southeast Asian history and prehistory. I am noticing that the development of early China, according to the latest research, was much more diverse than was previously thought. I can see how this would be an uncomfortable subject for some, but that doesn't mean it should be ignored or silenced. I was also going to post new evidence supporting the Aryan Invasion of India but am now hesitant because of all the "poltics" that seem to be involved.
--Easy772 (talk) 04:36, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
@Easy772: There are a lot of politics on Wikipedia and plenty of POV pushers, but I don't think this dispute is evidence of that. Most long-term editors are quite fair-minded (or they wouldn't survive for long on Wikipedia), and Kanguole is the most knowledgeable editor I know wrt to Chinese linguistics. I'm no linguist myself, but I've read The Cambridge History of Ancient China from front to back, as well as other writings by Keightley, Nivison, Shaughnessy, and so on, and what you added is really not academic consensus. Early China was very diverse for sure, and both Chinese and Western academia have agreed on that since the 1980s (although the media and public perception still tend to cling to long-held myths and traditions). But with regard to the language of Shang, the consensus is that it was ancestral to modern Chinese. -Zanhe (talk) 05:16, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
I am not a linguist either, just a history and anthropology enthusiast. I'm also new to editing wiki. According to the reliable sourcing article both majority and minority views must be taken into account. I am not so much trying to show Shang language was surely Austro-Asiatic but rather educate readers and other enthusiasts to the different views of respected scholars. Also a scholarly consensus must be cited not that I doubt you. I think the rules are quite clear here. I am confident my sources meet the criteria for Wikipedia and will compromise on the tone of my edits, but I feel like these new findings definitely deserve to be on the Shang page and much more questionable material has been Overlooked articles by users criticizing my sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Easy772 (talk • contribs) 07:07, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi Zanhe, I created an article for a bizarre case of a suicide of a mid-level academic official in China named Chen Gang. I got a GNG tag slapped onto the article shortly after I created it, and then I attempted to improve it through more reliable sources. In any case, I was wondering if you could give it a quick readthrough and give me some advice as to what else I need to do to establish GNG or just about the article in general. For what it's worth this article will unquestionably meet GNG requirements at the Chinese Wikipedia. I do plan to nominate it for DYK! Colipon+(Talk) 03:15, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
@Colipon: This appears to be WP:1E. The person himself seems to be non-notable, but his suicide has been widely reported in China, so it may be notable. My suggestion is to rename the article to Suicide of Chen Gang, and add more sources to establish lasting effects and depth/duration of coverage. See WP:EVENTCRIT. -Zanhe (talk) 08:15, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
Yueshi culture
Hi, Zanhe. I've now added more stuff and refs to Yueshi culture, so now the article seems fine. Hope you like it. In particular, the dissertation by Min Li is quite relevant, with a lot more useful material there. All the best, Y-barton (talk) 06:41, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
@Y-barton: Thanks for your improvement, it looks great! I've started a DYK nomination, just in time to beat the 7-day deadline. You may wish to keep an eye on the nomination page and/or suggest alternative hooks. It's great to see editors like you work on Chinese archaeology, which is a completely neglected area. Of the thousands of archaeological sites in China protected on the national level, only a few have articles. Even glorious cultures like Liangzhu and Longshan only have short articles. I also noticed your work on Niuheliang, thank you very much! -Zanhe (talk) 08:28, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I'm in the middle of something right now, but when I get a chance, I'll try and do a more thorough review if another reviewer doesn't step in first. Viriditas (talk) 20:02, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
He neglected to include a number of active participants, including you. You might want to go to the page above and request you be added, or just add yourself, I'm actually unclear which is correct.
The fact that he only included three people, and some of the people he included were prominent discussants, is making me feel unkind thoughts about his motivations. Ogresssmash!23:35, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
@Ogress: Thanks for letting me know. I've never been involved in a DRN before, so am not too sure about its procedure. I'll give my two cents when I figure out how it works. Cheers, -Zanhe (talk) 07:22, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
You just write briefly what you think about the dispute, your position, like "I believe the argument has been made that ..." in the section under your name and wait. Ogresssmash!16:44, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
On 16 June 2015, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Qiao Shi, which you recently nominated and substantially updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page.
Hi, Zanhe - where do you find these photos for the Chinese politicians? I was thinking of digging up some photos for the people at this list. Colipon+(Talk) 21:02, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
@Colipon: I simply search for their Chinese names on Google images, and look for old photos whose copyright has expired (more than 50 years), or recent ones that are hosted on US government sites so likely copyright-free (easier for generals than politicians, it seems as if every Chinese general had paid an official visit to the US!) -Zanhe (talk) 05:13, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
Advice
Hi Zanhe -- I have been following an important article that I think needs major reworking. I want to summon the help of many editors by nominating it for Good Article and offering a large number of specific suggestions, so many, in fact, that they would swamp the TalkPAge. Would it be the best thing to make a userspace sandbox and post the link on the TalkPage? Or is swamping the TalkPage not a problem?
I do not want to be or seem critical of the editor who has taken over the article, for there has been a great amount of energy put into it and the editor should be applauded and encouraged to keep up the good work but to follow Wikipedia guidelines.
Maybe I should create a userspace article with a neutral name for you and a few others to give advice on. Not sure the best way to proceed.
My larger purpose is to argue that Wikipedia has now reached the stage where there are many major articles that need basic work but that editors (such as me) are more tempted to create new articles than to work on old ones. So rather than simply jump in and get into disputes, I want to raise the issue and start a process (of course, the immediate purpose is to make the article acceptable).
@CWH: I can totally relate to the temptation of creating new articles over the dreary task of cleaning up other people's mess. Wrt your plan, if the comments you plan to post are pertinent to the improvement to the article, I don't think you need to worry about "swamping" the talk page. You can always move the discussion to a subpage later on if it does turn out to be too long. Creating a userspace article would certainly help other people see exactly what you're trying to achieve, so it may be helpful, but I usually just try to be bold and change the article directly. It depends on how comfortable you feel about the risk of being reverted. If you don't mind sharing the name of the article, I'll add it to my watchlist (although I'll take a wikibreak soon for the summer so may not be able to help too much). -Zanhe (talk) 20:31, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
Request
I'd like to request closure of this discussion, which is going nowhere. I'm tired of engaging in futile arguments and being accused of base motives. (All I tried to do was to close an out-of-date nom – which got reopened almost immediately, then posted short-term.) Unfortunately, I found instructions at WP:ANRFC confusing (as I often do). Can you just close it and put us all our of our misery? Thank you. Sca (talk) 14:44, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
@Sca: I agree the discussion was becoming counterproductive and should not continue. Looks like Spencer has already closed it. Let's all move on. Cheers! -Zanhe (talk) 00:53, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
On 24 June 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lord Pingyuan, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Lord Pingyuan was celebrated for his role in lifting Qin's siege of the Zhao capital, thus saving Zhao from annihilation? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lord Pingyuan. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Hello. You removed the ref to [1], quite reasonably, on the grounds that it is a blog. It claims to be sourced from the Japanese Wikipedia article; can you, or anyone you know, check this, and transfer its sources if possible? HLHJ (talk) 18:50, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi there. If you have time to check back in from your summer break, could you add the Mandarin version of Tan Khoen Swie's name to his article? Yeah, it's been forever, I know. The name's available in this book on page 363. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:24, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
I know, it's been a while. And you've got a new sig, almost didn't recognize you. It's done. Oh, I still haven't started Wu Cun/Wu Tsun yet. Maybe after the summer. Cheers, -Zanhe (talk) 12:40, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
I haven't had much time to write either; two big translating projects, a digitization project, and a new baby have ways of sapping up time. Thanks muchly. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 08:57, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. He's sleeping pretty well now, thankfully. Though since he's our first, naturally, we worry about every little thing. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:23, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
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@Dr. Blofeld: I'm travelling for the summer, with little spare time and often patchy internet access. Anything requiring more than a few clicks would be challenging. I probably won't be able to do much until sometime in August. Cheers, -Zanhe (talk) 00:13, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
@Sattar91: You're not supposed to add a red link to the "see also" section. You can add it after the article is created. Cheers! -Zanhe (talk) 21:30, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
DYK for Hou Yao
On 3 July 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hou Yao, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Chinese film pioneer Hou Yao was murdered by the Japanese during the Sook Ching massacre in Singapore? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hou Yao. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Hi, do you feel very strongly about removing the Xu Caihou piece from the article 'Huang Ju'? I feel it is relevant since Chinese media have reported on the "Huang Ju model" [2][3][4], not to mention the Chinese Wikipedia coverage. Colipon+(Talk) 20:11, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
@Colipon: I don't think Xu Caihou should be mentioned in Huang Ju's article as the two cases are completely unrelated. Mentioning the "Huang Ju model" is fine, but adding speculations about Xu Caihou is unwarranted, IMO, especially as they turned out to be false. Overseas Chinese media often report unconfirmed rumours and speculations (if I remember correctly, Boxun had to pay damages to Zhang Ziyi for falsely reporting she was Bo Xilai's mistress), and we really need to be careful using them as sources. Besides, even if someone is treated using the "Huang Ju model", it does not mean he has anything to do with Huang himself (as an analogy, we don't include unrelated people on Karl Marx's page just because they're Marxists). -Zanhe (talk) 04:29, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi. For a long period, the infoboxes for the different Chinese dynasties simply had (what I see as) the proper/official dynasty name at the top (e.g. "Jin", "Qin", "Great Yuan", "Great Qing", etc.). However, I have become involved in a dispute that began with a disagreement between myself and Cartakes over what should be placed at the top of the infobox. His viewpoint is that it should be "<dynastyname> dynasty" (e.g. "Jin dynasty", "Yuan dynasty", "Qing dynasty", etc.) whereas I supported the old format as infoboxes for countries generally have the official state name (in this case, dynasty name) at the top which I see as the dynasty name alone, without the word "dynasty". He and I conducted a number of consecutive reverting edits before I placed it on the talk page of WikiProject China for general discussion. Philg88 pinged you a while ago, but you may have missed it. I am asking for your opinion on this issue which can be found here. Thanks. Nick Mitchell 98 (talk) 10:49, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi Nick Mitchell 98, why are you keeping ignoring the fact that there was actually an inconsistent usage in the infoboxes of Chinese-dynasty related articles before changes made by you and myself. For example, in articles such as the Zhou dynasty, Han dynasty and Tang dynasty, their common Western names are/were used. On the other hand, in articles such as the Sui dynasty, Yuan dynasty and Qing dynasty, "Great"-style names were previously used. In other words, there was no single "old format" (as you said above) at all, but simply inconsistent usages. I simply made them consistent across articles and follow the standard convention in English. For more detailed discussions, please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject China#Chinese dynasty infobox title naming dispute. --Cartakes (talk) 14:02, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
@Nick Mitchell 98 and Cartakes: Thanks for reminding me of the discussion. I was unable to comment when it started because I was travelling, and forgot about it later on. I've just posted my two cents at the RFC thread. Cheers! -Zanhe (talk) 21:59, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
@Cartakes: Please stop accusing me of ignoring the inconsistency issue, this is explained in the main article that I directed Zanhe to. I have tried to condense the situation on this talk page to include only the basic outline of the situation, apologies if I was unable to include every minuscule detail here. Nick Mitchell 98 (talk) 08:16, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
There was no single "old format", wasn't it? Why did you make it appear as if there was indeed a single "old format" for a long time in your first message? This is not a "minuscule detail" as you said, but a major part within the basic outline of the situation. That's why I need to correct this obvious error. --Cartakes (talk) 13:08, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
@Colipon: This is mysterious indeed. I have no idea what's going on. Maybe has something to do with the Beidaihe Conference and/or tweaks with the Great Firewall? -Zanhe (talk) 21:31, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
Actually the more I look at it, the more it appears to be undetected bot traffic. The traffic looks unusually consistent from day to day, and the sustained surge of page views results in almost no extra edits. -Zanhe (talk) 21:40, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
Then the interesting part is ... why are those articles specifically being targeted by bot traffic? Some kind of hacking operation? What good does it do to needlessly pump up hits on Wikipedia articles? They're selective too; I've only noticed this on maybe half a dozen articles. Colipon+(Talk) 00:17, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
There's no way too find out. Having access to the raw server log would help, but I don't think that's possible. -Zanhe (talk) 18:53, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
I think I've corrected all issues. The hook is 199 characters, so that may be an issue, but I couldn't figure a way of cutting it down any smaller. Would appreciate input. Thanks again. I'm satisfied enough that as soon as it's reassessed as B-class I'm going to put it up for GA right away. I'd appreciate any additional comments you may have about the work. BusterD (talk) 18:41, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
@BusterD: I agree, but someone else usurped my review before I got a chance to respond. Very nice article, by the way. I think it'll pass GA without much difficulty. -Zanhe (talk) 21:54, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
Very nice of you to say. The reviewer who was helping me with my B-class review checklist went ahead and reviewed my DYK, so I hope that's ok. I'm quite proud of this one. I've been around a long time but only have a few GAs to my name. This is the first time I've built an article from scratch, from a subject totally unknown to me five days ago, that went straight to DYK, B-class, and to GA review. Took me about ten hours or so, over the course of about three days. Makes me feel like I have wiki-muscles I'm not yet using. And this subject (pardon the pun) has legs. Using my newspapers.com account I'm finding lots from AP and UP I could use to get this up to A-class and maybe even FA (would be my first). I need to practice reviewing a lot more myself. It would help me with my own pagespace. Just never made the time... BusterD (talk) 22:39, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
You seem to do a lot of DYKs, so allow me to ask you a question: When the nomination is more than seven days after creation (seven days and about 22 hours), is this an automatic fail? Is there any leeway on such things? BusterD (talk) 11:51, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
On 31 August 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Miao Hua, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that at age 59, Miao Hua is the youngest full general in the Chinese military? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Miao Hua. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
@Ogress: Thanks for letting me know, I'll keep an eye on the SPI page. I don't understand why he would do that, after he volunteered to get blocked. -Zanhe (talk) 05:10, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
@Ogress: That's annoying, but WP is full of POV-pushing SPAs like him. I see that you've reverted them already. If he keeps doing this I guess WP:AN3 is the next venue. -Zanhe (talk) 23:48, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
@Ireneeng: I've moved the draft to the main space and expanded it a bit. The previous reviewer's rejection on the basis of notability is not reasonable. In the future, it would help if you make articles more substantial, preferably with multiple English sources (search google books for historical figures), before submitting them. Most AFC reviewers have no background in Chinese history and can't tell the significance of even highly important figures. Let me know if you run into problems. -Zanhe (talk) 21:49, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
I've a few more articles if you've time for them. This is Liu Bingzhang's picture, would you be able to upload it?
This, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:1897_Red_Revenue_surcharge_stamp, this one I'd prefer to call it 1897 Red Revenue Surcharges because this is how it's known to the collectors. A few admins/editors were haggling over the title for much of this afternoon in the help desk.
Thank you.
I appreciate the seriousness of this place, but at the same time, when the subject matter isn't really their fort, they shouldn't get their hands dirty. One even asked me if I own the Draft H of Q, even after I offer the wiki link to DHQ. For pete's sake, it's 529 volumes collection!!
@Ireneeng: I'll help if it's a subject I'm reasonably familiar with and interested in. Yeah, the Red Revenue Small One Dollar is the most famous stamp in Chinese history, but the title of the article depends on whether you plan to write just about that single stamp, or about the Red Revenue stamps in general. The Chinese-wiki article (a feature article, no less) is about all Red Revenue stamps, see zh:紅印花加蓋暫作郵票 (and there are quite a few images there you can use for your article). -Zanhe (talk) 23:25, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
Also, when you write an article, remember to write a lead section at the beginning which introduces the subject and summarizes the most important aspects of it (see WP:LEAD). That would be useful to help people understand what the article is about and why it's notable. -Zanhe (talk) 23:32, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Z! Got it. Greatly appreciated the pic!
The Chinese red revenue is major. If a pic is used on other wiki site (i.e. Chinese or German ..) = they're definitely in the pic common?
My red revenue aims to the whole series, not just the block of four.
Irene Eng 01:11, 3 September 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ireneeng (talk • contribs)
I added infobox for Liu, hope didn't mess anything. I don't have right code for multiple children for Liu. Xuexi: how to eliminate one minister header? I've two now.
Irene Eng 01:35, 3 September 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ireneeng (talk • contribs)
@Ireneeng: Just add all children on the same line, connected by the {{ubl}} template or </br >. By the way, when you post a message on a talk page (such as here), remember to append it with ~~~~ (four tildes), and it will be converted to a signature with your name and the timestamp. -Zanhe (talk) 05:25, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
On 7 September 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Yu Zhongfu, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in the three years since Xi Jinping became China's top leader, lieutenant general Yu Zhongfu has been appointed to three leadership positions in the military? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Yu Zhongfu. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Thank you
Irene Eng 20:04, 10 September 2015 (UTC) Irene Eng 20:04, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
this page looks different than the last one I used ... ??
Irene Eng 20:05, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
@Ireneeng: I'll take a look in the next few days. I think muliao should be merged into mufu as most of the content is identical. What do you think? Also, do you happen to have urls for the references? That would help a lot! -Zanhe (talk) 22:57, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi Z, yes I did. Thanks for correcting them! Wondering if the title "Red Revenue Surcharge" be better? Bec they're known as postage stamps, not the revenue stamps. Once again, thank you so much for your help. Have a great weekend.Skigg 17:44, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
DYK for Ma Faxiang
On 12 September 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ma Faxiang, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Vice Admiral Ma Faxiang of the Chinese Navy is believed to have committed suicide after being investigated for corruption? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ma Faxiang. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 20 September 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Wang Shouye, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that when investigators searched the homes of Vice Admiral Wang Shouye, they found US $2.5 million in a washing machine and RMB¥ 52 million in refrigerators and microwaves? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Wang Shouye. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Hi Zanhe, i appreciated your reply. This topic is debated all the time. I agree Hong Kong SAR is not a sovereign state, in fact it is clearly stated in on the Hong Kong Basic Law Article 1- "The Hong Kong Special Administrative Region is an inalienable part of the People's Republic of China". I agree this should be kept consistent. I just wanted to point out that on the ACI (Airport Council International)page [1] where the statistics are from, the list is written like this-
LONDON, GB (LHR)
TOKYO, JP (HND)
HONG KONG, HK (HKG)
BEIJING, CN (PEK)
The 2 letter abbreviation after the city refers to the country it is in. Notice in Beijing it is CN and in Hong Kong it is HK. If Hong Kong uses China's flag than the list should be written as "HONG KONG, CN (HKG)". In order to make sure the information given to the reader is correct, we should keep what is stated on the source (ACI), unless there is another reliable source that puts CN as the country Hong Kong is in. In that case it will be appropriate to use the Flag of the PRC. Please let me know what you think! -Carsonhk (talk) 12:21, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
@Carsonhk: Hong Kong is indeed a special case, and can go either way in reliable sources. However, Wikipedia requires consistency and cannot depend on the whim of individual sources. This has been the subject of numerous discussions before, and the longstanding consensus on List of countries is that only sovereign states (either de jure or de facto) are considered countries, otherwise we'd have endless time-wasting debates and edit wars on whether Scotland, Wales, Chechnya, Quebec, etc. should be listed as countries. And the recent RFC, specifically on the status of Hong Kong, just reaffirmed that consensus. -Zanhe (talk) 20:34, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
@SSTflyer: Thanks for your suggestion, I agree he's notable enough by Wikipedia standards. But I'm aware of at least a few thousand missing people (kings, scholars, artists, governors, ministers, generals, etc.) who are more notable than him. So unfortunately I'll probably never get to write about him (unless he gets promoted to a higher position). Regards, -Zanhe (talk) 00:44, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
@SSTflyer: Thanks for letting me know. Apparently France (and some other countries) has the strange law that says you cannot release photos of public art into public domain. It's nonsensical but there's nothing we can do about it. -Zanhe (talk) 18:38, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
You may want to download a copy of the image from Commons before it gets deleted, so that you can upload it here (enwp) as a fair use image. sstflyer05:36, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
On 30 September 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Qiu Yanpeng, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Chinese Admiral Qiu Yanpeng commanded a hospital ship that provided medical care in Cuba, Jamaica, and Costa Rica? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Qiu Yanpeng. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 1 October 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Zhou Lansun, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Cao Yanhua won her first national table tennis championship after only two months of training under world champion Zhou Lansun, who she said was like a devil? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Zhou Lansun. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 4 October 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Xiaoxing Xi, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Professor Xiaoxing Xi was arrested on charges of having sent restricted technology to China, but was exonerated when scientists found that the prosecutors had misunderstood the evidence? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Xiaoxing Xi. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 9 October 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Red Revenue, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a Red Revenue stamp (pictured) was sold for HK$ 6.9 million in a 2013 auction? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Red Revenue. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Hi Zanhe, its quite a time since I gave you a DYK award for 25 articles and now you have made 200. Well done. In the meantime you have helped save Wikipedia from being seen as biased towards American culture, British buildings, and celebrity sports stars et al. You have tried to redress the balance and your contributions remind us that most people do not live in America or Western Europe and there are other parts of the globe. I hope you continue to enjoy writing and I'd like to thank you on behalf of the community, the DYK project and me. Victuallers (talk) 12:06, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
I stood back from that one although I noticed that the title (hook?) was incorrect. I know of no one who "proudly" displays incorrect information. We are doing good stuff in an imperfect way but with a very good error correction method. I think we need to celebrate our editors rather than lauding the perfection of inactivity. The main page is not the product. Thanks again Victuallers (talk) 07:05, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
@Benlisquare: I've voted keep. I see that you've commented out all the red links, but don't think that's necessary. There's nothing wrong with red links that are plausible articles. -Zanhe (talk) 22:19, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Oh Lord, Z, thank you so much! Really liked your opening sentence of Jesuit. And all the extras. As a newbie, there's a tiny voice on the back of my mind .. that it might be deleted as I'm writing it. So ... Anyway, I'll try to do better. Again thank you. Skigg (talk) 21:48, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
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On 6 November 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sun Zhigang, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that before becoming a provincial governor, Sun Zhigang was the chief of China's Office of Health Care Reform? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sun Zhigang. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Zanhe, I was wondering whether you could take on this review, or at least look into the sourcing issue raised here. The request—now over three weeks old—is for someone familiar with Chinese articles, and I immediately thought of you. Thanks for anything you can do here. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:34, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for thinking of me, BlueMoonset. I already looked at the article a month ago and copyedited it a bit, but decided it could not be fixed without significant effort. And the creator has made problematic nominations before, two of which I rejected, see Shekou and Hatton Road. So I'm inclined to agree with Yerevantsi's original review. -Zanhe (talk) 20:12, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
I greatly appreciate that you were willing to go back to it to finish the review. Thank you! The nomination should be formally rejected in the next few days. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:25, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Hello, you seem like a person that has some insight into Chinese history. I have seen this article Cho La incident and I find it very biased and it seems unauthentic. The sources are largely Indian, and I could not find any neutral sources for this article. The casualty count and results also seems very odd. Do you have any insight into this matter? I suspect it may be a propaganda article made by nationalistic Indians who felt disappointed after their loss in the Sino-Indian WarGreentea555 (talk) 08:36, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
@Greentea555: Yeah, Wikipedia is full of POV pushers adding claims with partisan sources or no source at all. I'm too busy writing missing articles to rewrite existing ones. If you're interested in improving articles related to the Sino-Indian War, I recommend using The Lessons of History: The Chinese People's Liberation Army at 75. Chapter 9, written by the renowned US military scholar Larry Wortzel, covers the war in great detail. Best of all, the entire book is public domain because it's a US government publication, so the content can be directly used in Wikipedia without copyvio concerns. -Zanhe (talk) 04:57, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
reference from chola incident is real incident with outside Indian reference too. may be some chinese 50 cents army disappointed about their only loss. also how the numbers seems "odd" ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooltunir (talk • contribs) 14:46, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
@Cooltunir: Judging by your contribution such as this, which you copy-and-pasted from someone's blog without attribution, you're exactly the kind of editor which I was referring to above. The numbers are odd because they're not supported by any reliable source, and contradict respected scholars such as Taylor Fravel. -Zanhe (talk) 22:09, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Hello, Zanhe. Three articles I have created recently, Zhang Qinqiu, Lu Zhiying and Yang Yongtai, have not received ratings on their quality or importance from WikiProject China. Numerous other articles I have created have yet to receive ratings from the group. I do not want to rate them myself because that would be biased. Also, the article Cheng Weigao (created by me and edited into its current version by user Colipon) is no longer a stub, so I request an upgrade to its rating by the group.
Zee money (talk) 02:54, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
@Zee money: Thanks for creating these articles, they're a great improvement from the unsourced stubs you used to create! I've assessed them, but I don't think it's a problem if you assessed them yourself, as there's nobody systematically assessing China-related articles. If people disagree with your assessments, they can always reassess them. If I have the time in the next few days, I'll try to nominate some of your articles for DYK. Cheers! -Zanhe (talk) 23:29, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
DYK for Zhang Dingfa
On 22 November 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Zhang Dingfa, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Admiral Zhang Dingfa stepped down as Commander of the Chinese Navy because of cancer, and died soon afterwards? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Zhang Dingfa. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Hi Zanhe! I'm Kevin, one of the organizers of the English Wikipedia Asian Month. Thanks for participating, and awesome work so far. I've reviewed your submitted articles and accepted all but one of them: Wang Huayong is too short, as it currently sits at less than 150 words. I know it's short notice, but if you wish to expand the article by December to bring to to the 300 word count, you can do so (and simply remove the "(N)" next to the entry to re-submit). Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! ~SuperHamsterTalkContribs07:59, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
No problem, and thanks! You have more than five articles that meet the criteria, so I'm pleased to say you'll be receiving a post card for participating. Thanks, ~SuperHamsterTalkContribs06:57, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Request for review
Hello, Zanhe. This is Zee money. I recently created an article, Liu Zhixun and I request that some people from China Wiki project review it. The subject is an acquaintance of Mao Zedong's 1st wife and Mao Zedong personally wrote to his widow 25 years after his death, which should be significant. There are also two other articles that I would like reviewed. They are Duan Dechang and Xu Jishen. In 2009, these two individuals were selected as among the 100 most important people for their time period (the late Republic of China era).
Zee money (talk) 04:34, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Priscilla Chan (philanthropist) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. John from Idegon (talk) 20:26, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
On 4 December 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Qiu Huizuo, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that although General Qiu Huizuo(pictured) was persecuted at the beginning of the Cultural Revolution, he authorized the torture of 462 people after returning to power, causing eight deaths? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Qiu Huizuo. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Hello Zanhe. I recently created a template called Template:Provincial leaders of the Chinese Soviet Republic. It is an english translation from the zh:Template:中华苏维埃共和国省级行政长官 on the Chinese wikipedia. There are a lot of red links in the original and some of the people who do have articles in the Chinese wikipedia do not have one in the English wikipedia. Because of this, the English version will be a brief summary of the original. This template will be a great help to WikiProject China.
Zee money (talk) 01:46, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
@Zee money: Thanks for creating the template. It looks good. There are a lot of articles missing, of course, but you've done a good job creating them! -Zanhe (talk) 23:31, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Hu Die you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of TheFame08 -- TheFame08 (talk) 13:40, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
Editor of the Week
Editor of the Week
Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week for your determination and dedication to help the encyclopedia grow. Thank you for the great contributions! (courtesy of the Wikipedia Editor Retention Project)
I'm more than happy to nominate Zanhe. What an excellent editor she is, with over 43K edits and an incredible 84% to mainspace! A real unsung hero she is, who has given us around 700 articles, of which 209 articles were featured in the DYK section. An asset for the Wikipedia community. Incredibly calm and sensible editor with lots of clue for almost everything. I've never seen her in any sort of conflicts with fellow editors. Day in and day out, since 2010, she has never taken a rest. We must save this kind of spotless editors from getting tired by giving them the recognition they deserve, we don't have many.
You can copy the following text to your user page to display a user box proclaiming your selection as Editor of the Week:
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One of the benefits of facilitating the Eddy award is that I get to meet editors like you. Too many veteran editors spend too much time at the various drama-laden pages of Wikipedia. They rarely take the time to see the hard working editors that fly under the radar of contention and strife. Editors like you are the heartbeat of Wikipedia. Thanks for all you do. Happy New Year. Buster Seven Talk17:02, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
@Another Believer: Hey thanks for writing all these articles. I've also visited many places that don't have articles, but since my main interests are in history and biography, I haven't bothered to create them. I'm taking a break right now. I'll check them out after the holidays. Cheers! -Zanhe (talk) 13:25, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
On 15 December 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fang Yi, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Chinese Vice Premier Fang Yi lost his mother 26 days after he was born, and his father at the age of eight? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fang Yi. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
I'm not an admin and cannot protect the page. I'm on my wikibreak right now, and have no intention to ruin my holiday by edit warring with an unabashed POV pusher. -Zanhe (talk) 13:48, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
DYK for Ni Zhifu
On 17 December 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ni Zhifu, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Chinese Politburo member Ni Zhifu(pictured) invented a drill that is named after him? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ni Zhifu. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 20 December 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Chen Muhua, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Vice Premier Chen Muhua, one of China's top women politicians, was forced to give away her daughter and did not reunite with her until three decades later? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Chen Muhua. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 20 December 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bao Zhao, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that fifth-century poet Bao Zhao was executed following the failed rebellion of a child prince? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bao Zhao. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Dear Zanhe, A wise man said "man is the master of everything and decides everything". Reflecting the single-hearted unity of our editors, I have decided to send these Leader's Greetings to you – Zanhe – a masterful Wikipedian professing indomitable independence, creativity and consciousness in editing. May the popular masses and world progressive people enjoy your contributions next year, too! Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 18:05, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
On 31 December 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ai Xia, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that the suicide of Chinese silent film actress Ai Xia inspired a film starring Ruan Lingyu, who also committed suicide soon after the film's release? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ai Xia. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 31 December 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Li Hongzhong, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that 210 journalists and intellectuals called for Governor Li Hongzhong to step down after he grabbed the recorder from a reporter who sought to interview him? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Li Hongzhong. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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