User talk:Xclusivzik/Archives/2021/October


Undid revision - The sources are verifiable and based on newspaper articles

Hi,

In reference to the editing of the Shauwn Mkhize page, I stated clearly that all these sources are reliable and in the public domain and my changes were undone. I am not sure why you keep flagging this — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pooparder (talk • contribs) 06:39, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

@Pooparder: You can dispute on the article’s talk page. Xclusivzik (talk) 22:10, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Request on 21:11:54, 10 October 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Godsentme1



Godsentme1 (talk) 21:11, 10 October 2021 (UTC)


@Xclusivzik Hello, I removed the entire recognition section. The subject still meets notability in music as the subject has significant coverage in multiple reliable magazines. I just resubmitted was this the correct thing to do?

@Godsentme1: Hi, another reviewer will have a look at it. Xclusivzik (talk) 23:48, 10 October 2021 (UTC)


@Xclusivzik: Hey I'm here to help you understand and educate you on Wikipedia's notable criteria for musicians. I want to help you better understand the proper criteria as follows and pulled from Wikipedia guidelines.

According to Wikipedia this is what makes a musician notable under criteria 1 of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(music)#Criteria_for_musicians_and_ensembles

Has been the subject of "multiple", non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself.[note 1] This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, "magazine articles", online versions of print media, and television documentaries[note 2]

According to Wikipedia if a subject works are published in "multiple" "magazine articles" Independent of the subject that makes him notable under criteria 1. Now here is the except where it does not meet criteria one IF:

Any reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician or ensemble talks about themselves, and all advertising that mentions the musician or ensemble, including manufacturers' advertising.[note 3]

Works consisting merely of trivial coverage, such as articles that simply report performance dates, release information or track listings, or the publications of contact and booking details in directories.

Articles in a school or university newspaper (or similar), in most cases.

Subject I created an article on has keyword more than "Multiple" magazine articles independent of the subject. The magazine articles are not "press reprints" where the musician is talking about himself like interviews etc.

According to strictly again to these "Wikipedia" terms subject is notable and belongs on Wikipedia's encyclopedia. This is here to help you understand because an earlier comment you made made no sense because the subject has no press reprints articles in the references I've included and also the subject again has appeared in "Multiple" meaning 2 but subject has shown to be featured in more than 2 so again to these terms, the subject is notable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(music)#Criteria_for_musicians_and_ensembles


I did not make the terms Wikipedia made them I hope this can help you and any other editor on the platform grading these articles. There needs to be an understanding so things are done the proper way here on Wikipedia. Best regards cheers :)Godsentme1 (talk) 17:43, 13 October 2021 (UTC)


@Xclusivzik: Also I wanted to educate you on what an example of self publish means. For an example katlyn has 4 articles published in magazines, these 4 articles are well written and describe the subject in detail, the post were published by staff and admins of the website. Who published the articles? Site admin and staff who work for the magazine company posted the article that means Katlyn did not self-publish articles each of katlyn articles state they were either posted by admin or staff of website. Therfore again that defines self-published if the articles authors said "katlyn" then it's safe to mark all 4 articles as self published. But again if the articles are posted and published by admin of the site and along with staff then all 4 articles are NOT self published. This was an example point to again help educate you as a editor on the Wikipedia platform. Information is important to us all and it helps the community be a better place. If you or any other editor needs help understanding things please feel free to connect with me.Godsentme1 (talk) 17:59, 13 October 2021 (UTC)