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Thanks for your help throughout the year! Many more Happy Collaborations! Amandajm (talk) 05:53, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Epiphany window from St Andrew's Cathedral, Sydney, John Hardman and Co. of Birmingham, 1860s

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Robed judges

Good one! It would be nice to have a new one, in colour. Amandajm (talk) 02:57, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Glad you like it. I was worried about the quality. Whiteghost.ink (talk) 02:59, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Going well! I think that the image is worth using, despite the poor quality. But if you keep adding info, it will stall the process. I trust that the other plans are all moving along smoothly as well. Amandajm (talk) 05:31, 10 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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G'day!

Why are you still stuffing around on Wkipedia? Go and put your feet up! Amandajm (talk) 08:33, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I know, I know! I'm working on it! Whiteghost.ink (talk) 09:35, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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...on your FA. --99of9 (talk) 23:27, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, well done! StAnselm (talk) 00:02, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Likewise, excellent job. Hope to see you there again sometime soon! Regards, hamiltonstone (talk) 05:31, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Wedding of Nora Robinson and Alexander Kirkman Finlay

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Sydney Meetup on Monday evening

There's a Meetup in Sydney on Monday (tomorrow) evening from 5:30pm at the Paragon Hotel Circular Quay. We even have an international guest. See the meetup page for more details and to sign up. Sorry for the late notice - I hope you can make it. --05:11, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: January 2014



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Belated FA congratulations

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Sorry this is late - I missed this article's promotion in January. BencherliteTalk 09:47, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Myra Juliet

Thank you for your contributions. I think that now I have just reviewed a DYK, I will put Ma Farrell (as we always called her) up for DYK. That child in the photo died at 2 1/2 from a congenital heart problem. It was not so very long afterwards that they developed open heart surgery.

One day when I was about seven Myra told me to be quiet and sit still because I would disturb the fairy. I presumed that this was merely a ruse to keep me quiet, but she assured me that if I sat in the dining room and watched for him, he would come down through the largest hole in the ceiling rose and sit on the lamp shade. He did it about the same time every day. Unfortunately, I obviously wasn't quiet enough, because he chose not to come that day. My aunt raised her very arched eyebrows, looked down her nose snootily and said that fairies never appeared for "some people", implying that I had a problem with fairies. I suppose I must have; I haven't seen a fairy yet. What did Conan Doyle and Arthur Rackham have that I haven't got, I wonder? (No. Don't answer.) Amandajm (talk) 09:44, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank You

I'm Shyrece Celestine, a freshman at Louisiana State University, and I would like to thank you for your contributions (fixing my mistakes) to the Black Thursday 1851 article. This article was my first contribution to wikipedia and it was a little rough, so thank you for improving it. Now it's far more useful to wikipedia users everywhere!

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Environmentalists

Hello, thanks for adding the environmentalists to disambiguation pages. I just thought I'd let you know that as they don't meet MOS:DABRL, they are unlikely to remain long, as people will delete them. I left them, in case you were planning to create them soon. I thought I should let you know so that you didn't spend too much time adding them and then find your work undone. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 07:08, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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A bowl of strawberries for you!

Thanks!!! And I was affraid that maybe the editors on the article will not like it... Thank you. Hafspajen (talk) 02:29, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

April Fool's Day

Dear User:Whiteghost.ink, thanks for all your work on the article about April Fool's Day. I just noticed that there has been a mass deletion of content there. I thought I would let you know. If you don't have time for it, I'll try to sort it out later. With regards, AnupamTalk 06:24, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Baroque and Beyond

Hi Whiteghost, yes, I was going to pop in at the end of today's counting and check it out. I'm avidly listening to this countdown ... much of the music is absolutely amazing! I'm not so good at tables, either, but I'll give it a go, unless you're already working on it. Graham87 05:50, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done, all the items so far! I'll check the article out in again once today's broadcast is over. Graham87 06:53, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I've finished all the items for today. In this edit summary, I meant "empty row". To make the next entry, I just make a duplicate copy of the top row and modify it. Graham87 09:27, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Could you possibly help out tomorrow? It's not a public holiday in Western Australia; I might be able to pop in in the early afternoon (AEST), but I won't be able to *start* working on it in ernest until 10:00PM AEST. Graham87 12:39, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome! I'll check it out now. Graham87 10:09, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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the Red Cross nurse who founded the London's first private hospital

About the article about Theodora Cowan, I could be quite wrong about this but it seemed to me odd that there might have been Red Cross nurses in London when London got its first private hospital. If I am right is the problem just a case of the name of the hospital having been omitted? With knd rgrds etc, Eddaido (talk) 23:33, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting point. I went back to my source and extended the quote to show what it said in more detail. Does that make more sense to you? That is what the text says but its author might have made some sort of error. Do you have more information? Whiteghost.ink (talk) 03:07, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I guess whoever wrote it did not consider that matter important. Now, should anyone (like me) be concerned there is at least the link (I've now made) to where their erm institution is described as a Pioneer Nursing Home. Maybe its true in the sense that such institutions were previously regarded as accommodation for the incompetent (physically or otherwise) and the pioneering part of the two ladies' enterprise was to actually involve doctors and making people better? I just don't know but I do imagine there were organisations like at least monasteries caring for and trying to mend people rather a long time before Queen Victoria. A puzzling assertion by Graeme Sturgeon but Thames & Hudson usually make nice books don't they. Thanks and regards, Eddaido (talk) 02:10, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
How fascinating! What interesting connections. Thanks for those links. My guess is that care provided in monasteries was probably not considered "private" in the sense that we think of them. Although monasteries were institutions and the church would have provided funding, the care given in them would have been available to the public and the poor. Just a thought. The things you learn from collaborating! I will keep this in the back of my mind in case I find out any more about it. Whiteghost.ink (talk) 04:01, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You are very charming, I was letting my socialist attitudes show. I think there just might have been very particular places where the ruling classes could make their own unfortunates comfortable away from prying public eyes, probably in a monastery, and very much not public. Think Uncle Fester (it says he's Tío Fétido in Spain) and lost in the Bermuda Triangle (of c.1500). I really don't see why their nursing home is a pioneer. Do you? Now, where was I . . . 'bye. Eddaido (talk) 11:21, 20 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

TFA - St James' Church, Sydney ?

Just to let you know that the TFA requests page is now taking bids for articles into July and early August, so if you'd like St James on St James's's's' day (never sure how many ' or "s"s are needed...) then pop along and have a go and nominating. I think it should be easier than last time - no need to worry about points, for instance. Let me know if you have any problems / questions. BencherliteTalk 23:48, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Main Page appearance: St James' Church, Sydney

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St James' Church

St James' Church is an Anglican parish church in Sydney, Australia. Named in honour of St James the Great, it is the oldest extant church building in the city's inner region and has been in continuous service since it was consecrated in February 1824. Its original ministry was to the early convict population of Sydney as well as to the administrative élite. In succeeding centuries, the church has maintained a special role in the city's religious, civic and musical life as well as close associations with the legal and medical professions. The church building was designed in the style of a Georgian town church by the transported convict architect Francis Greenway. Worship is in a style commonly found in the High Church and moderate Anglo-Catholic traditions of Anglicanism. In both style and teaching, St James' contrasts with the majority of churches in its diocese where services are generally in the more austere style associated with Low Church and teaching takes a more socially conservative approach. Part of a historical precinct, it is listed on the Register of the National Estate and has been described as one of the world's 80 greatest man-made treasures. (Full article...)

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Precious

architectural, social and organisational history
Thank you for your "significant contribution" of several years to the St James' Church, Sydney as "an important player in ... religious, musical and official life" (yes, you!), for quoting "till we see what's what in fact" and Entertainment, for listening to the final bars of Messiah in your sandbox, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

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Wattamolla

Added the panorama image. Multichill (talk) 14:40, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hilda, Trove and publishers

Hi. I saw you removed the NLA as publisher from the refs in Hilda. I'm not sure about this. I had thought about this during a previous FAC when asked (maybe Florence Fuller?) My response was that I thought the papers in question are out of copyright and/or have transferred copyright and that this represents a republication of the material for which the NLA, not the original paper, is responsible. I thought perhaps the publisher should be retained so it is clear that it isn't the newspaper in question that is publishing the linked item. Any views? hamiltonstone (talk) 23:58, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The answer is that the NLA is not the "publisher" of the newspaper, it is just the owner of the website through which the newspapers are currently visible. They did the work building it, yes, but they're not the publisher anymore than ancestry.com is the publisher of the digitised BDM records. That citation code is automated. The info is in the metadata. The NLA never made a choice - they are not making a claim to be the publisher. In many cases, they are not the owner of the hard copy nor did they do the scanning. As for the SMH, whose references I use a lot and manually change when I do, the newspaper title is mistakenly entered. They need to change that code. Changing the publisher code would be a bigger deal. Cheers, Whiteghost.ink (talk) 10:38, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks for that. hamiltonstone (talk) 12:19, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Arches were used in Ancient Roman architecture to build aqueducts, such as the Aqueduct of Segovia
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A pizza is an oven-baked flat bread typically topped with tomato sauce, cheese and various toppings
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DYK for Ros Pesman

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Helm

Whilst I agree that led is preferable to helmed, helm can indeed function as a verb and was technically correct. See also wikt:helm#Verb.--Jeffro77 (talk) 04:23, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Good link. Even so, the word seems icky, as bad perhaps (or not as bad, can't decide) as "heads up", which sounds like a two-up call. :) Whiteghost.ink (talk) 04:44, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It's almost as bad as icky.--Jeffro77 (talk) 07:33, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"Helmed" is an ugly Americanism. It has no place in the English-speaking world. Sardaka (talk) 09:05, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
As much as I dislike 'Americanisms', America is a rather substantial part of the "English-speaking world".--Jeffro77 (talk) 14:02, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sort of. And ugliness is an issue. In language I prefer elegance; in photos, beauty. Often I can't personally achieve either but we should at least try. :) Whiteghost.ink (talk) 23:01, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2014 Sydney hostage crisis

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Indeed, I'd second that. Not exactly a pleasant task to deal with. satusuro 11:39, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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DYK for Trove

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Thank you for your help on creating the Bail Act 2013 article and fixing the references up. 110.20.234.69 (talk) 08:06, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you again for your help. Hopefully it won't just be useful as an appendix to the Sydney siege article, but for legal studies students and general information. I'm half-tempted to make a companion article on the older law, that would be something really interesting as a comparison. Is there a way to encourage people to link to the Bail Act 2013 article? --110.20.234.69 (talk) 12:57, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am sure it will be useful to anyone interested in the law. I have added the "See Main" template to the article. This will show readers that a complete article exists on the topic. There are also probably other, related articles which can be linked to the Bail one - then readers for whom this is an area of interest can find it. I will look for them. There seems to be so much criticism of it that I am wondering whether the article should have a section headed "Criticism" that is distinct from the explanation of what is does and why it was changed. I brought this Bail article to the attention of User: Wikiain who has also helped with it. Make sure you also keep checking your own Talk Page for comments from other editors. If you are willing to create an article about the earlier version of the Act, go for it! Whiteghost.ink (talk) 08:13, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the encouragement. The reason why I had the criticism in with the Amendments section is because the criticism directly lead to the Hatzistergos review and the Bail Amendment Act 2014. Perhaps that section could be retitled to something else, in case there are further amendments down the track. Is the article suitable for the "Did you know?" section on the main page? --110.20.234.69 (talk) 08:43, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Good oh. I see. And yes. I am planning to nominate it. Whiteghost.ink (talk) 09:06, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Got a strange non-message on my talk page - apparently the robot let me know I created an article that was up for the did you know section, but the robot-master undid that? Thanks for doing the legwork on the nomination. --110.20.234.69 (talk) 20:33, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Would Max Taylor's PhD thesis on "The Politics of Bail Reform: The New South Wales Bail Act, 1976-2013" be acceptable as a source for Draft:Bail Act 1978? (If a copy can be found...) WP:RS seems to imply that PhD theses are appropriate, but should be depreciated in favour of peer-reviewed journals resulting from the thesis. --110.20.234.69 (talk) 23:13, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To cite his arguments/conclusions, I think you would need to find the thesis and the references it uses to make whatever claims it makes. They are often listed in University library's catalogues and sometimes they are online, in which case, it would be easy to use. Failing that, in my opinion, the fact of the thesis's existence would be a useful reference. Whiteghost.ink (talk) 00:47, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]