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User talk:Vernon39/Archive 2Archive made 16 May 2008: Archive 2 of User:Vernon39 return to User talk:Vernon39
Paul ThorntonHi, hope you are well, the Paul Thornton at Paul Thornton doesn't look quite like the Paul Thornton at Institute of Cornish Studies. DuncanHill 21:44, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Been working on John Hellins, applied mathematician and country parson today. Best Vernon White - TALK PAGE 21:48, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
WhathojeevesHi again, I expect you've noticed that Whathojeeves has been creating several new articles on Cornish poets and writers - I've had a start at categorizing them, but would be very grateful if you could look them over and add anything you can - I do feel that WP needs better coverage of this area, but don't really have the resources myself to develop them. Special:Contributions/Whathojeeves is the place to look. Thanks DuncanHill 00:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC) CNLAHi. I have no reason to consider the Cornish World Magazine unreliable. I edited the text because the impression I got from reading the paragraph was that of support of the CNLA. The sentence "intend to take direct action against property, avoiding harming people" sounds exculpatory, as if violence against property was acceptable and making an effort to avoid casualties was a positive move. Also, online polls being what they are today, claims of "massive support in Cornwall" are misleading. I assume these were the words of the person interviewed in the Cornish World article, but this was not made clear in the text, which as a result sounded biased. Dennywuh 19:45, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Cornish RebellionsThe problem here is that some rebellions involved other counties (Devon and Somerset), and quite often there were Cornish people on opposing sides hence I used the term 'Cornish involvement'. There is certainly alot of material on the subject but a title for an article may prove tricky. Talskiddy 16:33, 30 August 2007 (UTC) Falmouth catHi Vernon, do you know how to create the category (so it shows blue instead of red) or would you like me to go ahead and set it up for you? DuncanHill 20:42, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
National Maritime Museum ControversyDear Vernon, thank you for your previous contributions to the National Maritime Museum Controversy. I believe, that the most recent edit of yours is not helpful, deletes valuable information, and includes statements not referenced by reliable sources - therefore unfortunately I had to revert your edit. I wrote an extensive comment in the corresponding talk page and suggest we continue the discussion there as we did before and try to achieve a consensus and wait until we get more feedback from other editors. I value your input and would like to avoid an edit war that would force me to request formal arbitration procedures. Thank you.Okinawasan 00:57, 23 September 2007 (UTC) PacketHi - the data transmission items don't need to be in the dab page, because they are included in the main Packet article, and that's only way an editor is going to reach the disambiguation page. If you want to put them back though, it's not a problem. ELIMINATORJR 21:37, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
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To receive this newsletter in the future, please list yourself in the appropriate section here. This newsletter was delivered by the automated R Delivery Bot 16:06, 7 October 2007 (UTC) . ThanksThanks for the email, I'm just going to steer clear of admins for a while, far too much politicking involved for me! BTW, did you see my Boson articles? Very stubby at the moment, but at least a beginning! DuncanHill 18:53, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
SheriffsHi Vernon. Just tried to add loads of pre-18th c sheriffs resulting in an edit conflict. If I don't add them soon I will lose all of my work. I need you to stop editing the page for a few minutes. Cornovia 23:00, 18 October 2007 (UTC) PS - links to A2A will not work as the user sessions are timed out. I will sort all of those out if you want as I know how to get around the system. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cornovia (talk • contribs) 23:04, 18 October 2007 (UTC) St KewHi, hope you are well. My copy of "The Popular Dictionary of English Place-names" (which is the OUP Dictionary of English Placenames under another cover), says that the patron saint of the church is St Kew. Any thoughts? DuncanHill 21:37, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Quaker BiographyI googled into your page on Quaker Biography. my interest in this is in Essex and Suffolk counties in England, where I have many Quaker ancestors and relatives. will you be focusing your biographies on British Quakers, and will you be focusing on all members of the Society of Friends or will it only be Quakers of note? I am currently working with a group regarding the Salmons, Hawkins and Smiths of and around Thaxted and Colchester. we do not have access at the moment to Quaker digests or records, and are gleening as much as possible online before going into the records beyond what I gathered in past years from the digests and records of Colchester. it is my hope that more Quaker records will become universally available than have been in the past. I realize the QFHS is making cd's of the digests, but I find the cd's to be incomplete and a system whereby the data from the digests and records are completely transcribed and placed online in a free database is greatly hoped for, as is the Quaker Biographical dictionary, which is even less available to genealogists than the records. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tbaln (talk • contribs) 00:08, 30 October 2007 (UTC) Hi Vernon39, in the article about quakers there is a section on qukaer terminology, do you happen to know of any book or other written text that deals with quaker terminology/vocabulary/language? I would be very grateful if you could help me. Harold Fanning from Rostock, Germany. 85.177.5.173 (talk) 17:27, 23 March 2008 (UTC) New Cornish ArticlesHi Vernon, hope you are well - good to see you active. Could you add your new articles to Wikipedia:WikiProject Cornwall/New articles? The Project page has just had a major redesign, and it would be a great opportunity to breathe some new life into it. Best wishes, DuncanHill 18:49, 11 November 2007 (UTC)  This is an automated message from CorenSearchBot. I have performed a web search with the contents of Mineralization (biology), and it appears to be very similar to another wikipedia page: Mineralization. It is possible that you have accidentally duplicated contents, or made an error while creating the page— you might want to look at the pages and see if that is the case. This message was placed automatically, and it is possible that the bot is confused and found similarity where none actually exists. If that is the case, you can remove the tag from the article and it would be appreciated if you could drop a note on the maintainer's talk page. CorenSearchBot 09:30, 14 November 2007 (UTC) Potentially useful site: Packet ServiceHi, have you found this site? Falmouth Packet Archives? I've just come across it, and it looks like it could be useful. DuncanHill 23:07, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
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Blnguyen (bananabucket) 00:36, 15 November 2007 (UTC) Cornwall peopleHi Vernon, just thought you might be interested in this userpage I have made. It is a (partial) list of people connected with Cornwall who are in ODNB but do not yet have Wikipedia articles. I have started with people whose ODNB articles mention Royal Geological Society of Cornwall, Royal Cornwall Polytechnic Society or the Royal Institution of Cornwall. I have also ensured that existing Wikipedia articles of people whose ODNB articles mention these institutions are appropriately linked. User:DuncanHill/Cornwall People. DuncanHill 01:17, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 This is an automated message from CorenSearchBot. I have performed a web search with the contents of Richard Hubberthorne, and it appears to include a substantial copy of http://en.quakerpedia.org/Richard_Hubberthorne. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This message was placed automatically, and it is possible that the bot is confused and found similarity where none actually exists. If that is the case, you can remove the tag from the article and it would be appreciated if you could drop a note on the maintainer's talk page. CorenSearchBot (talk) 18:04, 18 November 2007 (UTC) Taking a breakHi Vernon, hope you are OK. I am going to take a break from wikipedia, as I am fed up with all the bollocks. I don't know when, or if, I shall be back. Feel free to email - and if I can help you with anything then please do ask - you're definately one of the good guys. Best wishes, DuncanHill (talk) 00:15, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Fox/CarlyleI don't know if you have found this already, but there are letters from the Carlyles to a couple of Foxes here - http://carlyleletters.dukejournals.org/cgi/recipient/start?coll=RECIPIENT&term=F DuncanHill (talk) 07:33, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Robert Were Fox the YoungerHave just started an article on Matthew Paul Moyle who appears to have collaborated with RWF, and to have been involved in the Poly. DuncanHill (talk) 03:44, 22 November 2007 (UTC) Robert HuntHi again, hope you are well. Would you know if Robert Hunt (scientist) was the same Robert Hunt who contributed several articals on geologists and other scientists to the DNB? I've been creating some articles based on DNB bios, and it would be good if I could authorlink the references. DuncanHill (talk) 22:53, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
BAERe. the apology - don't worry about it. Thanks for adding the info about the CAAT/Corner House judicial review, I've been meaning to do that. Thanks also for adding the Mark Thomas article - interesting reading. Mark83 (talk) 10:31, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Penwith Wikiproject & Cornwall WikiprojectHi, I see you are a member of the Cornwall Wikiproject. A proposal has been made to merge the Penwith Wikiproject into it. You can join in the debate here. Best wishes, DuncanHill (talk) 12:18, 5 December 2007 (UTC) Howard FoxHi Vernon, hope you are well (and not being blown away by the gales!). I'm working through a list of Presidents of the RGSC at the moment, and have a Howard Fox, Fellow of the Geological Society as president from 1893-1894. There is a Howard Fox mentioned in your Royal Cornwall Polytechnic Society article - do you know if he is the same chap? There's also a Warrington Smyth FRS - and I'm sure I've seen an article on him on WP but can't find it - any ideas? All the best, DuncanHill (talk) 23:15, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Fox review from 19th Century New YorkI thought this article might interest you - [1]. DuncanHill (talk) 00:30, 9 December 2007 (UTC) Fox the Younger (again)I've about exhausted my US-based knowledge of Robert Were Fox the Younger, so you more-local guys will have to make up for my ignorance. Perhaps I can work on the format of the references or keep snooping for a public-domain photograph. Fox was certainly an interesting fellow. -- Astrochemist (talk) 15:37, 9 December 2007 (UTC) Miss Fox visits MontrealResearching Howard Fox (I'm sure the Falmouth one is the Geological one), I found this piece on Project Gutenburg - it mentions HF and a "Miss Fox" (Caroline's sister) - "upwards of eighty and a wonderful fossil". [2] Thought it might interest you. DuncanHill (talk) 01:27, 10 December 2007 (UTC) Robert Were Fox FRSHi, do you think it would be a good idea to have a gallery? It could hold the pic of his apparatus that is already in the article, and the pic of his dip circle with Ross (on the talk page), and any other pics we can get. BTW - glad you liked the Montreal info, sounds like they all had a jolly time! DuncanHill (talk) 23:53, 10 December 2007 (UTC) (from my talk page)::Articles in The Times indicate that it was regarded as a very important initiative, not just a jolly. The WP article on John Strutt, 3rd Baron Rayleigh doesn't ention his presidency of BAAS! Vernon White . . . Talk 23:57, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Cornish QuakersI expect you've found this already, but just in case - [3]. DuncanHill (talk) 16:50, 15 December 2007 (UTC) CystusHi, saw your post on the refdesk - Cystus is an alternate spelling of Cistus. Best wishes for Christmas and the New Year - won't be on much for a while - seeing family, and then jury service from the 2nd January. Take care, DuncanHill (talk) 15:56, 23 December 2007 (UTC) William OliverMany thanks for the clean-up, good work. DuncanHill (talk) 23:39, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
A person of interestHi Vernon, I hope you are keeping well. I've just started an article Thomas Brown Jordan which you may find interesting - he was Barclay Fox's drawing-master, and secretary of the Poly. All the beat, DuncanHill (talk) 12:45, 20 January 2008 (UTC) Gurneys bankersIs there any relationship between the families that established Gurneys Bank and, on the other hand, Overend, Gurney & Co? If so, it seems that there should be some information added to explain the relationship, or if not, then a "not to be confused with" sort of mention? Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:10, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Samuel Gurney: Well done - it is a much improved article! I consolidated a few headings and did a little formatting. If you disagree, feel free to revert. Were any of his children notable? Which of them took over the discount bank? Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:55, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Speedy deletion of Gwynedd RaeA tag has been placed on Gwynedd Rae requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies. If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding CSDI can but apologise for making decisions based on content. As I believe my ratio of good decisions outweighs the bad, I will continue. I must tell you, therefore, that I was a little sleepy last night with my edits. Asenine (talk)(contribs) 17:09, 1 February 2008 (UTC) You don't need my permission to remove them, they are just suggestions and and flags for other editors to coma and help. It looks fine to me now, and I may have been a bit trigger happy in the first place ;) JPilborough-Leave Message 23:33, 14 February 2008 (UTC) I am reverting back your gallery edits for two reasons:
The next edit on English must be to bring across material from French, and the Quaker significance needs to be explained on the French article. ClemRutter (talk) 20:34, 17 February 2008 (UTC) Good to get to know you. Did you see the link to the van Etten book- its online and there is a host of material about Congénies and the protestant/inspiré/Quaker history of the Vaunage. Meeting for Worship has resumed at the meeting house, and again visitors are welcome. ClemRutter (talk) 21:12, 17 February 2008 (UTC) Posted response on my talk page. ClemRutter (talk) 00:57, 18 February 2008 (UTC) DabbingNo problem, I keep an eye on links to Falmouth. Best wishes, DuncanHill (talk) 00:54, 23 February 2008 (UTC) WarningsHi there! Just a tip about issuing warnings; don't issue three 4th tier warnings on the first edit to an editor's talk page, haha. It is a bit redundant. Instead, just slap on one and see where that goes. Cheers, Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 22:04, 23 February 2008 (UTC) Robert CharletonWhen I started the article on RC, I looked on the DNB and didn't transfer over a lot of information, I checked the facts that I did with the Anna Fox book, and letters I had from a Genealogist, Heather Charleton , which I had in my files. I think it was the grandchildren of Elijah Waring and RC who married, and it is throught this line I inherited the said book. As I may have said 'I speak Quaker' though am not an attender. I am worried about the term ministry, being confused with being a Minister. The only reference I have of Robert being a Minister is A Testimony of the Bristol and Frenchay Meeting concerning Robert Charleton being a Minister deceased. I think this is an feature of typesetting a heading- so all nouns were capitalised. I read this as a minister-- ie one who gave ministry, at the invitation of the Clerk to the Meeting. All the other terminology seems to be the same as today- Quarterly Meeting, Meeting for Sufferings etc- though all the dates are written in Fifth Month 18th style as month names were then not used. I think, the DNB just make a mistake, and understood this in an Anglican Context. I see that someone has transcribed the DNB article- including the misleading (Minister). I think that the additional information that I chose not to include could be transferred across and the duplicate article should be tagged for deletion. We do need a new article on pin-making as it now features on the UK 20 pound note- I could write a stub but it quickly leaves my area of competence. ClemRutter (talk) 23:30, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey, Vernon. Thanks for the heads-up. I checked what you're talking about. Yes, I didn't notice it before, but it's not something I've done. Whoever had been working on it before not only used a reflist template but added individual references, so that it had two subsequent numbered lists. Pretty odd. I'll have to do something about that when I have time, unless you'd like to weed out and reformat some of it. My work or not, thanks again for the heads-up. Aepoutre (talk) 01:14, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
William CookworthyDo you have "Cookworthy:A man of no common clay" by A. Douglas Selleck ISBN 0904593053? It's very informative, I shall try to add some info from it to the article (will be good for me). Selleck is of course one of the ECC Sellecks, and has also written "Plymouth Friends", a history of the Plymouth Quakers (which I don't have but feel sure would interest you). Best wishes, DuncanHill (talk) 01:07, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
VandalismPlease do not post inappropriate warnings. If you look at the discussions pages, such as for Richard Jenkin you will see there has been a constructive discussion. In the future please assume good faith. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.171.112 (talk) 20:37, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Quaker terminologyHarold Fanning - Rostock - You said:
Here are two:
There's also an online enquiry desk (Britain Yearly Meeting) - Ask a Quaker a Question and a website for Germany Yearly Meeting . . . . . . or come back to me with a specific question or project, via Wikipedia email. Vernon White . . . Talk 08:31, 24 March 2008 (UTC) BAE SystemsHi. I've removed your 13 February edit:
Belated thanks and can you helpMany thanks for the Payton - much appreciated, and very kind of you. Sorry I've been rather uncommunicative lately, on of my wikimoods I'm afraid. Do you know anything about a Robert Dunkin? He was a Quaker saddlemaker who also made his own scientific equipment, I think he was from Penzance, and seems to have given the young Humphry Davy much encouragement. DuncanHill (talk) 17:22, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
ScoutingNo I don't! I just had a quick skim through the index of Tim Jeal's biography of BP - the National Service League are mentioned a few times both in connexion with BP's work with the Territorials and with Scouting, but can't see anything quite on those lines. BP was a very contradictory man, both a pacifist and a militarist (he became more pacific with the passing of time, and described modern warfare as "organized slaughter"). He certainly had to balance Scouting between both the military tradition and a more pacifist, libertarian ethos (for example, he was a great admirer of Montessori, as she was of Scouting). I don't have the recent Official History of Scouting (maybe I'll buy it for my Group and borrow it!) there may be more in there. Will let you know if I come up with anything more. DuncanHill (talk) 00:30, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia: The Missing Manual - binding problemYup, the binding glue was defective on a lot of copies in the first printing - some thousands ended up being pulped, I'm told, once the problem had been discovered. It's not clear if you ended up with a good copy or not; if not, and your bookseller isn't responsive, please let me know - I can help. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 15:43, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
FAUYou asked that I consider the more general aspects of the question of how people find what they need from Wikipedia and whether sites about US subjects should have precedence in the use of ambiguous titles. I am not giving it precedence simply because it is a US subject, I am giving it precedence because the stats I provided show it is the most popular of the articles by far. To not direct FAU to the university when it receives eight times as many hits as all of the articles on the DAB page does not make sense. As for the notable biographical articles squatting on the names of globally notable non-American people, this is the English Wikipedia, so a lot of the time preference is given to English subjects. I am imagine that most of the different Wikipedias do this. As for the future audience of En Wikipedia, I don't see it really changing that much, it is what it is now, English speaking with some users from other languages. We are slowly expanding the coverage of subjects that are important in the non-English world, but I doubt we will ever have the level of coverage that the subject's native language would have. KnightLago (talk) 00:43, 5 May 2008 (UTC) Eugh. I'd missed out a closing slash in one of the refs. All sorted now! Thanks for taking a look. Smith609 Talk 18:09, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
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