User talk:VectroIts a vanity for a non-notable music project, and a brand new article, so that biased me against it. Honestly, it should go, but I guess speedy delete wasn't the way to go, having actually read the criteria. Cornell Rockey 03:30, 20 September 2006 (UTC) I've marked William S. Laughlin for deletion, but since you had made an edit to that article earlier, I thought you might have some information on why he is notable. If you do, feel free to add it. Cheers, --Vectro 03:14, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
You're right about my botched revert attempt - thanks for helping out. Best, The Hungry Hun 22:25, 21 September 2006 (UTC) Hello Vectro. Your comment referring to my "unqualified statements" is ill-informed. I am the founder of The Dove Foundation. As such, I'm frustrated at seeing 15 years of hard work dissed by mischaracterizations from "experts" who post information without proper fact-checking. If, as you say, "Wikipedia welcomes meaningful contributions from a Neutral Point of View," then I'd like to keep the information balanced and accurate by making contributions from a neutral and informed point of view. I'm available to discuss this further. I'm always ready to discuss/debate my position, and would appreciate you not redirecting my submissions unless you can substantiate their inaccuracy. Regards, --Dick@Dove 16:39, 23 September 2006 (UTC) I also used googleFor long word strings don't put them in "speech marks" - sometimes it does work to find the exact string but due to the length of the string it can usually find the page in question without them as googles preview listing bolds the words that have been searched for. Click here to see an example. Sometimes the first string doesn't work but eventually one will. –– Lid(Talk) 16:13, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
VA-42Please see Lid's page. VA-42 data should be public domain, there is no copywrite on the data as it comes from an agncy of the US Gobverment, The Navy Historical Center. Please refer to the following web site, which includes the Library of Congress info...no copywrite: http://www.history.navy.mil/avh-vol1/prelim.pdf Bondo 20:47, 26 September 2006 (UTC) VA-65Same with this as VA-42...could you, I can't figuure out how to, replace the data that was previously on the VA-65 entry??Bondo 20:53, 26 September 2006 (UTC) VT-10 , VT-86Thanks for your help! I have also started a coupe of pages from US Governemnt web sites, on these two training sqwuadrons...oddly, they are also missing. The info was taken directly from offical USN sites. Can you investigate these???Bondo 01:29, 27 September 2006 (UTC) Also, Lid is attempting to delete saying he saw the info on globalsecurity...who apparently put the Navy stuff on their site: They were taken directly from VT-10 and VT-86's offical US Navy web site..now if globalsecurity is taking their stuff from them, and copywriting, it is wrong. I think that before you delete, you should try to tarck down the original info source.The link is as follows: https://www.cnatra.navy.mil/tw6/vt10/history.asp https://www.cnatra.navy.mil/tw6/vt86/history.asp Bondo 19:28, 27 September 2006 (UTC) Is it me, or are there some seriously over excited people about this stuff? One guy called me lazy...may be, if its in the rules, its in the rules. I will be perfectly frank, this kind of stuff turns peoople off. i was telling a friend that uses Wiki and he thought they [the deleters] were over the edge...if the info is pubklic domain, no matter how it gets there, it should be allowed. Unless wiki re-writes its "consititution". Your thoughts?Bondo 19:55, 27 September 2006 (UTC) Thanks for your help. I agree with your last comments on my talk page. Even if its reuse, it is start, and maybe soemone with more time can expand. Beats having soemone search and not find anything...and if they don't want to take the time to learn how to post, then we still have missing entries. I think you are the most levelheaded one (administrator) out there...once again, thanks for your help!Bondo 20:07, 27 September 2006 (UTC) They SHOULD make you an administrator. Of course, then you'd be one of "them"...read my latest post to VA-65 about JOPA.Bondo 20:17, 27 September 2006 (UTC) I just wrote this to Lid, feelign that these two entries should be relisted...take a look at the links, you will see they are public domain. Thanks again- Lid, I feel that you have to revisit these two articles....once again, globalsecurity has violated copy write by taking a public domain site/info and saying it was there info. I invite you to look at the two web site below, read where it says "Official US Navy Web Site"...perhaps you shoudl have Wiki contact globalsecurity? The links are as follows: https://www.cnatra.navy.mil/tw6/vt10/history.asp https://www.cnatra.navy.mil/tw6/vt86/history.asp Bondo 00:54, 5 October 2006 (UTC) Bondo 00:56, 5 October 2006 (UTC) Hi there- There are two articles the VT-10 and VT-86 that i would like to have searchable...right now, the person that built the Vermont Road series of entries has everything going to those...most people who will be searching these two squadrons, will search by VT-10, and VT-86....can we do a disambiguition page for these so that whoever searches will at least get a choice of where they go...? if so, how do i construct one?Bondo 18:18, 30 October 2006 (UTC) Moved your commentI've moved the comment that you posted at Wikipedia:Ignore all rules/Brainstorming to Wikipedia talk:Ignore all rules/Brainstorming. As always, thanks for your contributions now and in the future. SchuminWeb (Talk) 04:47, 28 September 2006 (UTC) Why did you remove the disambig from Crucifer? Anchoress 08:31, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
The DRVs are closedVectro, I am an administrator at English Wikipedia -- I have closed the discussions within policy at my discretion, and they remain so. Navy feedback could take years, and it doesn't matter to some of the issues at hand. Even if the material is in the public domain, copying it verbatim is bad form, and would qualify for Wikisource, not Wikipedia. The articles should be rewritten from scratch using sources, including the disputed material, in an editor's own words. The matter is resolved. Best wishes, Xoloz 20:02, 2 October 2006 (UTC) Unfortunately, because our policy pages are freely-editable, the precise wording of our policies can change. Nevertheless, it is accepted common practice that a DRV may be cleared after five days, whether the result endorses deletion or results in an overturn. This particular DRV was cleared after five days, as was within my discretion. I do close many DRVs, and am reasonably well-versed in proper procedures. There is no formal method of appeal from DRV, but you are free to ask other admins to review the situation, and I am confident they will agree that I acted with my discretion. No policy in Wikipedia suggests or endorses the notion that directly copy-and-pasting a complete article or large blocks of text from any source is good practice. If you find a page that suggests this, alert me, and I will revise it to clarify matters for you. Again, the easy solution here is for you (or anyone) to use the sources to compose an article in your own words. If you cannot or do not wish to do so, I might even try to do so, but the verbatim revisions will remain deleted. Best wishes, Xoloz 20:45, 2 October 2006 (UTC) ReversionCould you clarify whether your reversion was meant to remove the vandalism or to reinstate the Al-Manar report? Thanks, TewfikTalk 04:29, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
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Changed test templateSure its okay. I usually just use the test ones for convenience but verror is more appropriate. Gdo01 20:56, 9 October 2006 (UTC) Louise HarrisonI see that you have marked the article Louise Harrison for speedy deletion as you feel that it does not assert the importance of its subject. The person concerned has appeared in at least two notable British television series, and has an entry on the Internet Movie Database, although the information about them is limited. I have checked out the criteria for writing biography as you suggested and the article appears to meet the criteria, even if it is a little thin on the ground. What can I do to get it accepted, or shall I give up and choose a different subject? Please advise as I am relatively new to this. Paul from Brum (talk) 03:15, 10 October 2006 (UTC) Re: Louise HarrisonHi Vectro. Many thanks for your advice regarding this article and for changing its status. Hopefully other users may be able to establish her notability. I will bear what you have said in mind, though, when I am writing future articles for Wikipedia. Paul from Brum (talk)] 04:27, 10 October 2006 (UTC) I've removed the {{db-bio}} from Peter Clarke (cartoonist), since there are at least assertions of notability, so it's not absolutely clear that the article should be speedied (eg. "sold 1.3 million copies in three languages", "commissioned by the Zambian Government to paint an official portrait of President Kaunda", "exhibited in many modern art exhibitions in the UK and abroad"). If you feel these assertions are either fabricated or insufficient, feel free to {{prod}} or AFD the article. --Interiot 04:55, 10 October 2006 (UTC) Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBotSuggestBot predicts that you will enjoy editing some of these articles. Have fun! SuggestBot picks articles in a number of ways based on other articles you've edited, including straight text similarity, following wikilinks, and matching your editing patterns against those of other Wikipedians. It tries to recommend only articles that other Wikipedians have marked as needing work. Your contributions make Wikipedia better -- thanks for helping. If you have feedback on how to make SuggestBot better, please tell me on SuggestBot's talk page. Thanks from ForteTuba, SuggestBot's caretaker. P.S. You received these suggestions because your name was listed on the SuggestBot request page. If this was in error, sorry about the confusion. -- SuggestBot 12:53, 10 October 2006 (UTC) You wrote that you might change your deletion opinion if I added my sourced claims to the article. I have done so. AnonEMouse (squeak) 21:38, 11 October 2006 (UTC) Have done the rewrite - thought you'd like a heads-up. Vizjim 10:34, 16 October 2006 (UTC) Barnstar ThanksThanks so much for your Barnstar gift and kind words. It's always nice to see your efforts are noticed, much less appreciated. Thanks again, Satori Son 17:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
T.J.CoxI didn't write the article on Cox, but I feel it should stay at least until the election is over. Other candidates who are running for congress have their own wiki page without the stigma of being marked for deletion.Mrsmart 03:36, 20 October 2006 (UTC) Rugby World CupNo problem. Thanks. Gdo01 01:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC) thx for the helpfirst time editing, and just feeling my way...thanks for the help.Davidegg 06:12, 24 October 2006 (UTC) GA nomYour GA nomination of Blood donation is on hold. See its talk page. Rlevse 01:26, 1 November 2006 (UTC) List of idioms in the English language -
GōYou wrote: "Alternative spellings are not misspellings; romanization is a fuzzy business, whether we like it or not." Romanization is hardly a fuzzy business, especially in this case. I have been working with Japanese for almost three decades. I have degrees in linguistics and Japanese and have worked as a professional translator. I use the term "gō" almost everyday (making rice). "Go" or "gou" are not alternative spellings; they are misspellings. "Go" is slightly plausible in that some people have difficulty entering macrons and will just ignore it. "Gou" is really not possible no matter how you look at it. They both exist as redirects or disambiguation pages to assist in finding the real page. Bendono 00:44, 4 January 2007 (UTC) Wiki Trains ProjectHi, I am a member of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains Project. I noticed that you recently re-directed one of our pages, without even stating your intentions or reasons on the Talk Page beforehand. 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I rechecked this IP address for you to see whether or not it is still vulnerable to being a possible proxy and it is. The evidence used to come to this conclusion is an nmap scan that found port 8080, a common proxy port, to be open. If this port can be closed on that IP, it can be rechecked and unblocked based on the lack of open ports. Until then, the block will remain in effect. Feel free to write me back if you have any further questions. ZsinjTalk 02:40, 18 February 2008 (UTC) Orphaned non-free media (Image:NHC-logo-grayscale-1.jpg)Thanks for uploading Image:NHC-logo-grayscale-1.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. 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Additionally, their HQ moved to Hoboken in 2006 or 2007 and according to http://www.ajc.com/business/marsh-mclennan-to-move-152108.html they are moving to Atlanta soon. Make the changes you need. 38.109.88.194 (talk) 03:16, 26 January 2010 (UTC) Just to let you know that I removed the copypaste maintenance template in which you re-inserted back in November. I have double-checked which sentences were copied off other websites, and have removed them. Minimac (talk) 07:25, 16 March 2010 (UTC) Personal Rapid TransitThanks for injecting some reality into the PRT page. You will find answers to some of your questions about PRT here: http://prtboondoggle.blogspot.com/ Avidor (talk) 17:57, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Atren, is this your blog?: http://weinerwatch.blogspot.com Avidor (talk) 12:49, 26 August 2010 (UTC) Thanks for adding the AFD tagWas called away in the middle of setting it up. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:10, 20 September 2010 (UTC) Please see comments and respond. OhanaUnitedTalk page 06:56, 4 December 2010 (UTC) Clean-up templatesJust to let you know that most clean-up templates, like "{{Unreferenced}}", "{{Fact}}" (Citation needed) and "{{Advert}}" etc., are best not "subst"ed . See WP:SUBST for more details. Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 14:30, 6 July 2011 (UTC).
QuestionHi. Can you offer your opinion on this question I've posed? I could really use your thoughts on the matter. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 15:35, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
1Love.orgHello! You are welcome to delete the 1Love.org page which you requested for removal from the site. I created it a while ago and have no ties or need to keep the page. I also don't use this site much, quite frankly, although I do appreciate everyone who contributes to it. Thank you and have a great day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdecosta (talk • contribs) 12:48, 4 April 2014 (UTC) TalkbackHello, Vectro. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hay Day.
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Hi, Answer to your request for helpDone. See Special:Contributions/Vectro. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 13:52, 9 March 2016 (UTC) Nomination of Channel email for deletionA discussion is taking place as to whether the article Channel email is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted. The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Channel email (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines. Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Safiel (talk) 17:19, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
Message about CocooningLeft a message here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Faith_Popcorn#Proposed_merge_with_Cocooning Thanks, BC1278 (talk) 18:34, 3 September 2016 (UTC)BC1278 ReferencesRemember that when adding content about health, please only use high-quality reliable sources as references. We typically use review articles, major textbooks and position statements of national or international organizations. WP:MEDHOW walks you through editing step by step. A list of resources to help edit health content can be found here. The edit box has a built-in citation tool to easily format references based on the PMID or ISBN. We also provide style advice about the structure and content of medicine-related encyclopedia articles. The welcome page is another good place to learn about editing the encyclopedia. If you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a note. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:13, 13 September 2016 (UTC) Created new draft on cocooningAs promised, I've written a new article for Cocooning. You can find it in draft space here: User:BC1278/cocooning I think you'll find this one is rich enough in depth and sources to warrant its own article, but since I have a WP: COI as a business consultant to Faith Popcorn, you need to decide if it warrants being moved to the mainspace or give me permission to move it.BC1278 (talk) 15:42, 13 September 2016 (UTC)BC1278 ClarificationHi, Would you mind weighing in on the Talk page of Faith Popcorn that you have decided that the new draft of Cocooning is now good as its own article? I think you were clear in your comments that the article was now good and can be published, but another editor is saying you did not address the proposed merger with the Faith Popcorn article. I appreciate your time. Best, BC1278 (talk) 21:17, 29 September 2016 (UTC)BC1278
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