User talk:Tribal junkie

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Just checking

Hi there. It's great you want to contribute to Wikipedia. However, I'm noticing that your contributions include links to different entries on https://www.aboriginal-bark-paintings.com. It appears that this is a commercial site selling art, and it is not clear why Wikipedia should treat it as a reliable source. There may also be a separate issue, if you are Richard Aldridge (or a person close to him), in which case you might want to check out policy on conflicts of interest, and consider suggesting edits on talk pages instead of putting them in the encyclopedia. I also came across at least one example where the link has been added as an external link in the body text, in violation of WP policy. Perhaps the best thing you could do would be to replace as far as possible the bark paintings website citations with secondary sources from the literature that won't run into any issues with the reliable sources policy.

Don't get me wrong - some of your changes, in terms of content, are valuable. But the sourcing is a potentially major issue, that I wanted to flag for you. Have a look at the links I mentioned, and message me if you want clarification. hamiltonstone (talk) 11:25, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Hello, I'm Gadfium. I wanted to let you know that one or more external links you added to Kotiate have been removed because they seemed to be inappropriate for an encyclopedia. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page, or take a look at our guidelines about links. Thank you. -gadfium 02:42, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did to Tribal art. Wikipedia is not a collection of links, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include, but are not limited to, links to personal websites, links to websites with which you are affiliated (whether as a link in article text, or a citation in an article), and links that attract visitors to a website or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam guideline for further explanations. Because Wikipedia uses the nofollow attribute value, its external links are disregarded by most search engines. If you feel the link should be added to the page, please discuss it on the associated talk page rather than re-adding it. Thank you.-gadfium 07:15, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Stop icon with clock
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If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  gadfium 07:33, 14 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Gope (Papua) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Gope (Papua) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gope (Papua) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. VincentLUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 11:22, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You posted on my talk page, and a similar message at @Hamiltonstone:'s talk page, as follows:

My name is Richard Aldridge and I am new to Wiki. I have two main areas of expertise being aboriginal art and Oceanic art. I recently got a week suspension from Wiki I think for linking to my own website. The links were relevant but I think the main issue is a conflict of interest.
From what I can gather I should not link to my site but just suggest the edit and then someone else make the link? Is that correct? how long do these talks take to become decisions?
Although my sites do have a commercial aspect most of my pages are well-researched information pages. I do not understand why my site cannot be linked to but many different other commercial sites can?
For example under the entry Australian Aboriginal artifacts "Aboriginal Weapons". www.mbantua.com.au. Retrieved 2018-04-01. is allowed to link but I was removed. I am not sure why or how the decision process works
It appears that all my edits were removed on a wholesale basis and not looked at on individual merit?
Sorry forgot to sign Tribal junkie (talk) 04:01, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It appears that almost all the edits that you made to Wikipedia linked to one of your websites, without making your conflict of interest clear. Both hamiltonstone and I posted here on your talk page asking whether these were your websites, and asking you to stop, but you failed to reply. After the initial query and two warnings, I blocked you to prevent you from continuing to edit without a discussion.

Are you editing Wikipedia to contribute to the encyclopedia, or are you here to publicise your websites? If you are here to contribute, there are other websites you can use as references, and some are more authoritative than your own.

You express concern that a "competitor's" website is linked from an article. That link was placed by an editor who also included several other references, one of them to one of your websites, and another to the Australian Museum. They have also edited articles on a wide range of subjects. It does not appear that the link was placed by someone hoping to gain from the action.-gadfium 05:51, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

sorry should have continued from here but sent new message

I need to know how to go forward from here. Am I here to publicize my website? No but I am here to share knowledge on tribal art and aboriginal art and if you look at my articles I hope that becomes clear. For example, my article of Fijian War Clubs is already first in google so doesn't need to be "publicized" and is the best and most authoritative source of information on the web regarding Fijian war clubs. If I want to cite that page but can't do it directly due to conflict of interest what do I do?

I realize I got excited and over cited my site and deserved a smack on the hand. Moving forward can I cite other sites as well as my site or only other sites? How do I put my site forward for consideration for being a reference? As Hamiltonstone said my information is useful as is information in 200 odd articles on my websites that I do not wish to duplicate on wikipedia. Tribal junkie (talk) 07:47, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You should mostly cite other sites. Look for websites (or printed material) that cite their own sources - academic papers would be the most authoritative. When you write a passage on your website, you are getting the information from somewhere, and it is better if you say on Wikipedia what that original source is.-gadfium 18:48, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ok I have tried to do an edit on the Fiji page. I have removed the comment on poison arrows because it isn't something Fijians or Melanesians in general did. I mention they used clubs and that they used two types. I have Cited Fergus Clunie as the written reference and my website as a web reference as it has better pictures and is easier for net readers to read. My website articles include all three references I used putting that article together including Fergus Clunie and notes from the journal of the Polynesian society (Old slightly racist but solid source of information)and Charles Macks book about Polynesian art at auction which had relevant information.

Please check it for me if you get the chance and see if I am now doing it right. There will be overlap between my website articles and my Wikipedia contributions as my area of expertise is driven by my passion and my articles on my website are areas I have researched because they interest me. I think web references are as important as written references because people in villages in places like Papua New Guinea and Fiji have access to the net via mobile phones but do not have access to books.

If my edit is unsuitable please feel free to remove it and let me know where I went wrong Tribal junkie (talk) 11:05, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am happy with your edit to Fiji. I would suggest that you add a page number when you cite a printed book, so if anyone wishes to verify the content they can do so easily.-gadfium 22:55, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
If i know someone has got something wrong do i change it? or how do i get people to discuss it?

Kimberley (Western Australia)

You've split aboriginal art of the Kimberley into two sections in your recent edit. There is a paragraph in the Economy section. regards John beta (talk) 02:54, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]