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RFC discussion of User:Bugapi

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Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Autopatrolled#User:3family6

Hey, just wanted to let you know that I turned down that nomination. The technical recommendation by the community is 50+ articles created with no significant problems in past several month. My own personal criteria is 25-30 with the last 10-15 being clearly notable and/or well referenced without major problems on talk page. Neither appears to be the case with 3family6, though I appreciate the attempt to get more people autopatrolled, esp. to shorten NPP backlog, but they didn't quite meet the criteria. Thanks! Sadads (talk) 12:12, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

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Santorum article

Hi Tom, I had to restart the RfC for various reasons, and as a result your post—which you added shortly after I added the RfC tag—was removed. If you want to re-add your comment, the new RfC is here. Apologies for any confusion. SlimVirgin ^TALK|CONTRIBS 10:15, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Wikisource

User:Lhdoodle/sandbox. Lhdoodle (talk) 14:29, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

See The Yellow Book. —Tom Morris (talk) 15:30, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Wikisource?!?

Wiki source the archive.org Ella D'Arcy pleeeeeeeeeeaaaaaassssssssseeeeeeeeee. Thanks :) Lhdoodle (talk) 15:05, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The British Library barnstar
		Thank you for joining and contributing the British Library editathon, you definitely earned this barnstar! Cheers Fæ (talk) 23:27, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Woohoo! My first barnstar! Huzzah! I've started working on copying The Yellow Book materials over onto Wikisource and referencing some of the poetry and Victorian literature writings from JSTOR and other sources. —Tom Morris (talk) 00:47, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Open plaques: Dickens

Hi, Tom: nice to meet you on Saturday. I've been looking at the Open Plaques site, which is great. I can supply you with about a dozen more Dickens addresses: can you send me an email address, perhaps, so I can copy the document across? Also, the bit where it says he was 'at' the school in Lant St is wrong: he lived with his family in lodgings there, and it became a school much later. Cheers. Judith Victorianistjaf (talk) 11:48, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Judith. You can email [e-mail] with corrections and new data. If you just say that Tom said to contact them. I don't deal so much with the data side as being their Semantic Web dork. As for the Lant St issue, the database exists to document what the plaques say, rather than to be accurate. But it would be useful to know about that: I've been thinking for a while that we ought to have a comment section for plaques so that if we find out problems with information on the plaques, we can store it there. I'll probably end up pointing people here to show the potential need for that. The Open Plaques community are also interested in working together with Wikipedia/Wikimedia more as one of the potential future projects, as well as potentially doing other stuff related to open culture and heritage. —Tom Morris (talk) 11:56, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Great, Tom, I'll do that. Thanks. Victorianistjaf (talk) 17:23, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

British Library

Thanks for uploading the photos of poets. Were you at the British Library gig today? If so, do you know if they are planning another session? Your work is much appreciated. Best wishes Span (talk) 00:22, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Any thoughts?Span (talk) 22:37, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Hey Spanglej, sorry for the slow response. I was at the BL event on Saturday. There isn't a plan for another session yet, but it is fairly likely something like that will be coming down the pipeline soon. At the pub afterwards, it was mentioned that we might have two more events later on in the year. —Tom Morris (talk) 23:18, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

I was sorry to miss it. Is there a project page? It looks like you all did good work. Best wishes Span (talk) 23:28, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Span has given you a cupcake for your contributions. Say thank you by passing on the cupcake to someone whose work you appreciate.

Yum yum! The project page for British Library stuff is at WP:GLAM/BL. Although I wasn't one of the organisers, we are putting together a sort of talk page mailshot to go to the participants listing some of the things that have come out of it, including work on the poetry articles and some Wikisource related stuff. I'll post a copy to your talk page along with everybody else when we are done, if you like. —Tom Morris (talk) 23:46, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

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White pride and adminning

It made sense at the time While white pride definitely is not a particularly or uniquely Canadian phenomenon, Category:American culture was there and the picture in the article included a Canadian group. If you think it's inappropriate, you may certainly remove it.

As for being an admin, the simplest answer is that no one has nominated me. I reckon that it might be difficult for me to get the user right too—I have a pretty extensive block log (second only to User:SPUI as far as I'm aware), I used to be community-sanctioned banned from a topic of articles, and I have had some run-ins with my use of semi-automated tools. None of these is insurmountable, of course, and my record has been much cleaner lately, but as I understand it, the nomination process has gotten more difficult over time, so it just seems unlikely to me. I have a lot of edits, I've been here awhile, I've recently had several pieces of good and featured content that I've created, and I have a pretty decent grasp of policies, procedures, and style issues, but there are certainly more qualified candidates who have yet to be nominated or promoted. If I was ever nominated, I would do my part in going through the process, but it's a real crapshoot and it seems a little arduous for something that really shouldn't be a big deal. Anyway... —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:20, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Oops on tranclusions

Hi Tom, the recent BL related transclusions you made included the "this is just a draft" bit of text above the talk page subsection title. You may want to tweak those. Cheers --Fæ (talk) 11:57, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

There is only word for that: Fuck! Will go and fix. —Tom Morris (talk) 11:58, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

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York meetup

Hi. I was there but didn't make contact with anyone and no-one made contact with me. See my remarks at User_talk:Tagishsimon#York_meetup. Best. --GuillaumeTell 22:00, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

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Cropped image

Hi I noticed you cropped the watermark off this image . Is there anyway of doing the same to the sides to remove the damage ? Jim Sweeney (talk) 13:41, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

V&A having trouble with links

Tom, This is getting too technical for moi - I thought you were the best person to ask, but if Fae or anyone else would be please let me/them know. Thanks! Johnbod (talk) 12:57, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Fixing the problem of false accusations, et al.

Its probably about time you start thinking about adminship, the wiki needs all the mops it can get, Tom. I have been examining you (as odd as that sounds) and its pretty clear you know what you are doing and that you would put the tools to good use. So, I urge you to edit yourself this away. I'd happily write the nomination statement if you want (you would just have to give me a few days to make sure its a good one), but if you having something specific you want to say I'm sure you could speak for yourself. Or, if you don't have the time for the hoops now I just hope you keep this pinned to your to-do list. jorgenev 11:53, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the vote of confidence. I am not planning to run for adminship yet as I don't think I have enough experience yet. So I hope you don't mind if I decline at the moment. In a few months, maybe. As and when it happens, I'll be sure to let you know. Thanks again for the kind words. —Tom Morris (talk) 18:49, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Noted. jorgenev 00:07, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Religious epistemology

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wmuk:V&A Wikilounge

Hi Tom,

Could you have a ponder about how we might include some innovative methods for virtual engagement for this event. Being the V&A's web weekend they are trying to arrange some funky things (such as an interactive digital sculpture) and I have suggested a tweet wall in a style I saw successfully used at the Tate for feedback which might be used via email or SMS for those not twitter literate. Perhaps this might be an opportunity for some sort of webcast or similar experiment? Thanks --Fæ (talk) 07:57, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm now on the Wikimediaindia list and think that would be a good forum to encourage people to join us virtually on the day, either IRC or a mash-up would suit I guess. Our afternoon on the 16/7 would be India's late evening which might work well for a few hours of physical/virtual teamwork. Fæ (talk) 11:30, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

In terms of doing tweet visualisation, that is easy enough: Twitter's real-time API is very easy to use and I have got code to make it easy to use for Ruby and Java apps. If we wanted something pretty, we could make a pretty IRC visualiser, pipe the tweets into it and have that shown. We could also do something with filtering out edits to Wikipedia from the recent changes feed in IRC and displaying that. If we just wanted abstract interestingness, you have a few different views: recent changes filtered by namespace, daily editor leader board, anti-vandalism view (you just get all the edits with "revert" and either "TW" for Twinkle or "HG" for Huggle or "GLOO" for Igloo).

I was going to suggest getting a live feed of Commons uploads but... penises (and bums and vaginas and other things we might not want turning up in a well-regarded art museum). —Tom Morris (talk) 00:52, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Ah, Wiki Loves Sex again, that'll be for another event. Penes surely? Fæ (talk) 07:03, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Atheistic mythology

You might be interested in this topic, I think it probably is unencyclopaedic but the rush to speedy delete it seems unnecessary when it does pop up here and there. Fæ (talk) 11:32, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

No, I'm afraid I'd probably go with speedy deleting on the grounds of no context. It's not a hoax as the current CSD puts it. A quick check of Google Scholar gives me only a handful of passing references to the concept–one a snarky summation of Philip Pullman's novels, another a description of Friedrich Nietzsche's Thus Spake Zarathustra, and another in quotation marks as a reference to the function of evolutionary origin theories for atheists. It is a snarky term but ultimately an unhelpful and unused one. If it doesn't get deleted at CSD or PROD, I'd vote strongly to delete it at AfD. —Tom Morris (talk) 11:54, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

No disagreement; I'd go for weak delete, as it's used but probably an oxymoronic neologism rather than a sound topic. I keep on noticing too many trigger happy speedy deletions about, troubling when this is also the first experience for a new contributor. Fæ (talk) 07:09, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Wikimedia Mobile Projects

Hey Tom! Awesome post on tablet editing and +1 on pushing editing on mobile devices. We've been talking a lot about it here and would love to get you involved. Come join us on freenode IRC on #wikimedia-mobile.

For a general view of what were working on check out : http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects

Come help us make mobile better! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tfinc (talk • contribs) 20:24, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

York NRM meet and pubmeet

Hi Tom, Thanks for the invite. I will certainly show my face at both! Cheers! PatHadley (talk) 08:53, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

York meetup

hi, Thanks for your remind. I have been both, but didn't meet you yet :PZeyi (talk) 10:26, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Yep, I didn't go to either. I'm down in Sussex, but did the announcements/reminders as a favour for User:Fæ and User:Johnbod who organised and attended it respectively. I'll be at the London event on Friday. —Tom Morris (talk) 10:34, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

User:Benistan

Thanks, for protecting my talk page from that idiot. Intoronto1125TalkContributions 16:47, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

No problem! —Tom Morris (talk) 16:49, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

:) Intoronto1125TalkContributions 17:25, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Talk:New College of the Humanities#Opening_sentences

Would it be OK with you if I remove the headings SUPPORT - OPPOSE - NEUTRAL and your Comment and just ask for views? (Msrasnw (talk) 11:29, 23 June 2011 (UTC))

Yep, fine by me. —Tom Morris (talk) 11:55, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the change - (I will strike out or delete my now unnecessary extra view) I kind of wanted to get what I think of as a more neutral factual tone to the article which was very promotional but I feel every step has been a battle with reversions. Thanks and best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 13:57, 23 June 2011 (UTC))

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Online GLAM volunteers

Hi Tom, I saw you created this page Wikipedia:GLAM/Online volunteers. I was wondering what was the intended differentiation between that page, and the existing GLAM/Volunteers on the outreachwiki GLAM portal. Did you know about the other one, or was this new one intending to be a different scope? Personally, I think that we should consolidate things rather than separate - unless there's a good reason of course. A specific advantage of the other one (though it's by no means "complete") is that it is applicable to people across-project and across-language rather than being merely en.wp. Wittylama 15:51, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

I put it up because I intended there to be a place where we could have a cross-wiki and cross-GLAM-project list of online tasks to be getting on with, for all languages and all projects. Yes, it should probably be on outreach (but I just don't hang out on outreach much; if Meta is Wikipedia's unknown sister, then Outreach is Meta's unknown nephew). The idea isn't so much to list volunteers as to list tasks and things that need doing to support GLAM projects, so I guess it might make sense to move it to Outreach. Basically, wherever it is and whatever form it takes, it needs to solve the problem of "I've got a few hours, I've heard about this GLAM thing, how do I do something?" —Tom Morris (talk) 16:30, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Agreed - there does need to be an "open issues" place where people can pitch in and help. We've got something like that on the tools and requests page, but that's only really for people who can do toolserver-magic. To argue against my own case... it does make sense to put the requests for help page on the wiki that is relevant to the request - Commons GLAM requests are quite different to WikiSource GLAM requests for example. Perhaps then, it is a case that transclusion to the Outreach wiki "requests" page would be good to bring all the requests to the one place, but to have the different lists be based on the relevant wiki. I do agree that the Outreach-wiki is a very unknown Wiki relative to others, and personally I'd love to see a day when we have developed mediawiki enough to merge Meta, Outreach, Strategy, FoundationWiki, Internal-wiki, Office-Wiki, Board-Wiki... to simply Wikimedia.org (this of course requires much more advanced permission system for different levels of privacy, as well as things like global watchlists etc.). But I digress... Nevertheless, outreachWiki is indeed where all the outreach stuff is, and GLAM definitely is that - I specifically had glamwiki.org redirected to point to the outreach wiki GLAM portal in order to lower the barrier to entry. So - I'd recommend that for "list of things where it's all supposed to be together" to put it on Outreach, but for "lists of things relevant to one wiki's needs/language" to put it on that Wiki and link out from Outreach.

In terms of whether you personally have "a few hours...how do you do something?" - I'd really appreciate if you could help clean up the volunteer sign up page and request pages on Outreach, and help me make glamwiki.org more visible as the Central Hub of all things GLAM on m:GLAM and WP:GLAM. Would you be willing to sign up for that? Wittylama 17:56, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

I want most of those things too. And yes, Outreach is the place for that. Commons and Wikisource may be the right place to put tasks, but I think the important point is if we want to get Wikimedians who work across wikis to get involved with GLAM projects, we need some kind of central co-ordinating place for online volunteers much as the Online Ambassadors do. I can have a bash at getting that going on Outreach and then remove it from enwiki. I might be able to help with fixing up the volunteer sign up. I've got a few other bits and pieces to do but will have a go at improving Outreach as a central hub. —Tom Morris (talk) 19:36, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

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Completely new abortion proposal and mediation

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The hope is that, if a consensus can be reached on the article titles, the energy that has been spent debating the titles of the articles here and here can be better spent giving both articles some much needed improvement to their content. Please take some time to read the proposal and weigh in on the matter. Even if your opinion is simple indifference, that opinion would be valuable to have posted.

To avoid accusations that this posting violates WP:CANVASS, this posting is being made to every non-anon editor who has edited either page since 1 July 2010, irrespective of possible previous participation at the mediation page. HuskyHuskie (talk) 19:46, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

License tagging for File:Uplands logo.jpg

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 Done —Tom Morris (talk) 20:58, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

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The Signpost Barnstar

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		For your excellent work as a writer of the Signpost's "News and notes" and "In the news" sections, which I was allowed to witness as the Signpost's editor during recent months, I award you the Signpost Barnstar. Regards, HaeB (talk) 00:56, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, it has been really rewarding and fun writing for Signpost and something I hope to continue! —Tom Morris (talk) 01:03, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Ironholds (talk) 11:19, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

You said they were serving up lunch, and I know how much you like eating these. Ironholds (talk) 11:20, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Nah, that's more of a #wikipedia-en-admins pastime. —Tom Morris (talk) 11:21, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Re: Vrenator

Thanks for the revert on my User Page. Vrenator (talk) 12:12, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

No problem. —Tom Morris (talk) 12:14, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Correct use of prepositions

Nice one. :) Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 21:20, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Transition

Hey, Tom, thanks for that edit. I ran across the concept on CNN this morning, and tried a couple of ways to find it, and was shocked that there was no article. But you know, I wonder if it even makes sense to keep that redirect. I mean, no one is going to type in The Transition (airplane). You can delete it if you want, and I think what I'll do is handle the matter through a dab page. Thanks again. HuskyHuskie (talk) 14:49, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Looks like it's pretty well covered, already. HuskyHuskie (talk) 15:09, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

RFC/N discussion of the username "I Jethrobot"

A request for comment has been filed concerning the username of I Jethrobot (talk · contribs). You are invited to comment on the discussion here. I, Jethrobot ^drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 22:23, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm not totally sure why I've been invited to participate. Thanks for the offer though. —Tom Morris (talk) 22:34, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

RfB support

Do you have an extra negative in your support of Hersfold's RfB? The opposes don't raise enough concerns for me to not oppose. (I would have boldly changed it myself but you and I haven't interacted before and that would possibly be considered bad form.)  Frank  |  talk  11:41, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

 Done Thanks. —Tom Morris (talk) 11:51, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

User pages in categories: Kierkegaard

Hi Tom, I notice that you found all the user pages that I lost. I wanted to keep a list of pages I had competed as they were when I completed them so I created user pages for each article. I moved your commented pages to my user page and am wondering if I can keep them there or if I should delete them. User:11614soup11614soup 12:14, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Well, keep them if there is some benefit in keeping them. If you don't plan on improving the article in the near future, feel free to nominate them for speedy deletion using {{db-userreq}}. If you delete them and want them back, just ask an admin. For future reference, you can locate all your user subpages using Special:PrefixIndex - see here. Hope that helps. —Tom Morris (talk) 12:17, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

ACC toolserver access requested

I hereby confirm that I am requesting access to the Account Creation Interface. —Tom Morris (talk) 19:21, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

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News and notes about News and notes

Hullo Tom, just been looking at stories for next week's News and notes and saw that you've begun writing about the big story of the week, the Aaron Swartz/Greg Maxwell journal activism, for Wikinews. Would you be happy to cover the story for the Signpost while you're at it? On another matter, the interview with Daniel Mietchen is a great addition, but I wonder if NAN gets any more crowded, bits might need to get cut back; how would you feel about splitting the interview off into its own dedicated page? Skomorokh 15:01, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

As we discussed on IRC: if we put the Aaron Swartz story in In The News (which it has been), we don't have to shunt Dan's interview out of News and Notes. I'll have a bash at writing up something for it later: gotta go do open source things now. —Tom Morris (talk) 15:17, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

That works for me, thanks again. Skomorokh 15:19, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Source code for Reftag

Hello. Back in December you asked me about the source code of the Wikipedia citation tool for Google Books. If you are still interested, it is now available at https://github.com/Apoc2400/Reftag It is written in Python. If you want to run it yourself you will need the Google App Engine SDK, and API keys for Google Books and other data sources. --Apoc2400 (talk) 18:13, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Oh my, thank you Apoc! I'll have a look shortly. Great work. —Tom Morris (talk) 18:16, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Template:Date nobr

A tag has been placed on Template:Date nobr, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

Just created this template and then realised there is no way for it to work.

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion," which appears inside of the speedy deletion ({{db-...}}) tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate). Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. —Tom Morris (talk) 11:11, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit to the "Natural-Born-Citizen Clause" page...

Hi, Tom, I saw your message about my edits to the page regarding the "Natural-Born-Citizen Clause", which you deemed "unconstructive" (Which, incidentally, isn't a word), however I do not see how it was. Not only did I clean it up (As it is right now, it's just a 1-paragraph mess), but I also added new information.

Please elaborate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.17.180.219 (talk) 23:54, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

You also added the words "allegedly" and "Hussain" to the section about Obama which are blatantly NPOV by giving the unsupported idea that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii much more weight than it deserves per WP:UNDUE and WP:FRINGE. Perhaps marking it as vandalism was excessive, but it is a very problematic edit. —Tom Morris (talk) 23:59, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Aside from the word "allegedly" and writing his full name, was there any other reason to completely revert it to it's previous, cluttered state? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.17.180.219 (talk) 00:12, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Dear Tom,

message me on Aol: JohnnyBibs

- I'm not going to stick around watching for you to reply.

I look forward to discussing this with you further.

Praise Be To YHWH And HIS SON YAHUSHUA MESSIAH OF NATZRAT!

Sincerely,

JohnnyBibs

User:Wamiq Husnain

FYI, I moved Wamiq Husnain to User:Wamiq Husnain (as it appears to be a misplaced user page) and removed the A7 nomination. VQuakr (talk) 08:41, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

UKRockers

Hello Tom

Thanks for the message regarding UKRockers but if there isn't anything I can edit or amend to keep the UKRockers page then it will have to go .

I normally do edits for Wikipedia such as if Hard Rock Cafe's close of if there is locations or stores which are listed wrong I try and edit and update them.

Hope the admins keep UKRockers Page but if it has to go it has to go ,. thanks again

James — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jarvis1983uk (talk • contribs) 20:11, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	I have to say, the I-beat-Jimmy WikiLove message is superb. :-) James F. (talk) 12:07, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

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And do I get anything? Noooo. Ironholds (talk) 20:10, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of user talk page

It was a few weeks ago, and you've probably forgotten about it, but back on 13 July you tagged User talk:Jf75dmcd for deletion as a userspace page requested for deletion by the user (CSD U1). However, that criterion for speedy deletion explicitly states that user talk pages are not included. Except under exceptional circumstances user talk pages, unlike other user-space pages, are not deleted, as there are very good reasons for keeping a full record of messages the user has received, in case there is a need to check the history of the user. I am just letting you know so that you can avoid making the same mistake again. JamesBWatson (talk) 19:31, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Yep, I'm fully aware of it. User:Ironholds told me off about it in real life and trouted User:Mitchazenia for it. How did you dig that one up, by the way? —Tom Morris (talk) 19:48, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

How did I dig it up? I don't remember exactly how I got to that page, but basically it was a matter of checking the editing history of someone I made a note of to keep an eye on because of some sort of unconstructive editing, in the course of which I happened to find something about another editor with dubious editing, and checking that one led me to another unconstructive editor... JamesBWatson (talk) 20:12, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for reaching out

I saw your comment on the Guardian blog post here, and I just wanted to say I appreciate your willingness to help newbies, in case of deletion disputes or other problems. Your effort to foster an open and welcoming community is commendable. Flutiki (talk) 21:42, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Flutiki. I can't always fix things, but I'm happy to try and point people in the right direction so they can have the best experience on the site as possible. —Tom Morris (talk) 21:48, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

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I hate to be beaten by the wikimedia software so if you are in the pub on Sunday, you can show me how to mark these two as patrolled: James Cantor/Circles of Support and Accountability and IIVeaa/sandbox.

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Also ISANGYUN Competition - just to show the problem is not due to cross-namespace moves. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:37, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

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Hi. I've reverted the additions you made to the June Wikification drive as the drive is closed. Did you mean to add them at Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikify/Drives/2011/August/Log? Cheers. -- Whpq (talk) 10:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, I found it through the mention in Signpost so that link might be wrong. I'll check later. —Tom Morris (talk) 10:44, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Morgantown

I appreciate your concern for new editors; if you knew about me, you'd know that I have helped and actively mentored many.

This person, however, lies and bullies, and I'm surprised you haven't left a note on his own talk page about the outrageous things he has said and the way he has behaved. --Tenebrae (talk) 14:05, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

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I suspect User:117.205.54.37 is a sockpuppet of User:117.205.48.214 along with several other IPs. An investigation is necessary.--1966batfan (talk) 15:49, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

 Done No investigation needed. Just got an admin to do a 31 hour block. —Tom Morris (talk) 16:23, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

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There is an AN/I discussion where I mentioned your name (due to apparently being in contact with the blog author!). Perhaps you can chime in with some insight/assurance? --Errant ^(chat!) 19:00, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification. I've responded. —Tom Morris (talk) 19:31, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

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You identified a previous submission from the same author as spam. What are your thoughts on moving lead generation? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:02, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

It's either spam or it's non-notable bizcrap. It's not quite CSDable under G11 so might be an idea to take it to AfD (they'd probably contest the PROD). —Tom Morris (talk) 20:06, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Lunch!

here you go; your favourite starter.

Ironholds (talk) 22:37, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

I'd say "it's rather late for lunch", but I'll instead say that I don't see kittens on the page for Ovo-lacto vegetarianism. —Tom Morris (talk) 19:02, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

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[1] The page paramater in this case should have stayed "page=2". Where are you getting the notion that it should be changed? Gimmetoo (talk) 18:29, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I was at work and was supposed to be working, so I'm sorry for screwing it up. —Tom Morris (talk) 18:59, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

I've escaped :-)

Hi! Tom. The idiot has escaped from you-know-where LOL! Is there anything you can suggest I'd be doing to learn WP style? I've just left a talk page message for this article: [2] as it seems very heavily paraphrased. Would you like me to rewrite this as I have a lot of her classic cookbooks. I'm willing to learn and could use a mentor. Would you like to help?LittleRedWriter (talk) 02:26, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

The only thing I can suggest to really learn how to write at Wikipedia in terms of style and tone etc. is to read the Manual of Style, Tony1's copyediting essays and just ruthlessly apply common sense and try to be a calming influence. If someone challenges you on something, again, just work with them calmly to try and find a common sense solution to the problem.

As for Company's Coming? Cookbooks aren't really my thing, I'm afraid. I'm also more of a WikiGnome who fixes stuff (vandalism, image stuff, deletion requests) behind the scenes rather than someone who writes lots of content. From the Citizendium perspective, WikiProjects are the closest thing there is at Wikipedia to Citizendium's workgroups, so you might want to have a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink. If you want to rewrite it, go ahead!

You can ask on their talk page or find someone from the participant list. You might also want to have a look at the 'assessment' section of Food and drink (or any other WikiProject) - it is a table with links to lists of articles by their quality and importance. If you find an article that is currently tagged as stub or start, you might want to help expand it to move it up to C or B grade, and then eventually submit it for good article review. I've written a few GA reviews so you can see roughly what a GA review is like: Barney Frank, Émile Durkheim and Euro.

Hope that helps. —Tom Morris (talk) 06:55, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Tom! It helps to have help. I'll go read the docs you suggested. Here's a link to the article updates I did this morning [3] and you will notice I left the "inuse" tag in place. Kind of nice to have that tag again. LittleRedWriter (talk) 18:30, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Did you know...?

Tom if you have some free time could you help me understand how to submit a Did You Know...? article. I have the page all ready to publish as well as the teaser sentence. But after reading and rereading the instructions I'm very timid about trying it. I'm sure I'm going to mess it up because it does not make sense to me.

I don't just want someone to do it for me, I want to know how to do it so I will be able to do it by myself the next time.

The editor that usually helps me out is really busy right now ridding the Internet of The Internet Troll David Mavis and that is waaay more important than helping me put up a DYK article.

If you can help, that would be great. If not, no problem, maybe if I give it a couple more reads I'll get it myself. Sgerbic (talk) 05:42, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Yep, making sure that David Mabus/Dennis Markuze doesn't go through with any of his barmy death threats is pretty damn important!

I can't help today as I'm at work, but there's a long weekend coming up in the UK for the next three days. I'm on IRC (Freenode, nick 'tommorris') so you can always pop into #wikipedia-en-help and ping me (/msg tommorris hey!). If you can't wait that long, try just hopping into #wikipedia-en-help - the people are relatively friendly and helpful.

I've only done DYK twice, and I'm not sure there's more to say about it than the nomination section on T:TDYK.

Hope that helps. Once the work week is over, do ping me and I'll be happy to help. —Tom Morris (talk) 06:46, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Course Using Wikipedia

Hello Tom. Can I ask for your advice? I teach a class this fall in critical thinking where I plan to assign the editing of Wikipedia articles. See Reality Check. My hope would be to ask students to submit their completed works to the WP:SKEPTICSM project for review with the goal being to achieve a Good Article status. I see that you have made comments elsewhere that the Rational Skepticism project may be dormant. What might you recommend? Thanks. John.Farquhar (talk) 03:53, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Kulshreshtha article

I am trying create an article on "Kulshreshtha Community of India. I believe you have objections over the source of the information. The source is quoted in most cases. Example, Rig Veda, Garuda Purana whoch are all old Indian religious and spiritual texts. These texts also help in tracing the history of our culture. Other facts are based on real life findings about this community through research.

Kayasthas are the 2nd largest community in India. I believe information on prominent Kayastha communities like Kulshreshthas deserves a place on prominent databases. However, you are free to delete it or ask me further question if you donot find it suitable to be posted on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.mayank (talk • contribs) 20:33, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Haven't received a reply from you or may be I am not using the tool the right way. I am waiting for you to direct your specific question regarding the correctness of the facts mentioned in the Kulshreshtha article. Since in India peole like to backgrounds and origins of communities and surnames when they come across one, I felt the need to document it. There are several people who ask question like, where do they belong, what culture is it from etc. A page on Wikipedia shall solve that issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.mayank (talk • contribs) 17:14, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi 77.mayank, sorry to take so long to get back to you. Wikipedia needs reliable sources for articles to show notability. The article you created doesn't include any reliable sources so I've put it up for deletion. If you can provide sources to show that the topic exists and is notable, please post them on the deletion debate page. To understand why we delete articles on Wikipedia, see Wikipedia:Introduction to deletion process. The deletion discussion will continue probably until Friday so if you've got sources to show that the topic is notable and should continue to have a page on Wikipedia, please post those sources sooner rather than later.

Also, my name is "Tom" with an "o", not "Tim" with an "i". Thanks, 07:54, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Hey Tom

Its ok. I will get the original source when I visit India again. The source is Rig Veda and some Puranas, if you know what they are. I don't have them here. I completely understand Wikipedia's point of view. As a user I too expect wikipedia to carry only 100% valid information. No issues. Sorry about spelling your name wrong.