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This is nice & clean and now I'm going to write on it :)

If your ears aren't too busy, how about giving them something to do over here? :) Selections 17 and 18 are both broadcasts of Johnny Mercer's Music Shop. The radio shows are from Armed Forces Radio Service. Many of the radio programs heard in the US during wartime were recorded on disk and sent overseas so the service people could have some enjoyment. Without these disks, we'd have no albums like the "At the Supper Club" ones; they were compiled from the old AFRS recordings. I need to give them a listen too to try to get the "feel" of what the show was like. We hope (talk) 02:56, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

another transcript ;) We hope (talk) 02:58, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
I think this is going to be a big help with the Johnny Mercer article: Johnny Mercer Oral History Project There are a lot of interviews all transcribed and they're all licensed CC 4.0, so any quoting directly from them wouldn't mean problems. All the transcripts We hope (talk) 03:05, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

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Help needed with image rationale

I wondered if someone could give me a bit of help with addressing an image rationale. I've been taking the article Helen Rollason through GAN and it's almost ready to pass, but there's an outstanding issue regarding an image, File:Helen Rollason in approximately 1993.jpg, which is used in the infobox. Apparently the rationale is incomplete. The software I use makes addressing some of these things a bit difficult so I wondered if someone could take a look and help fill in the missing parts. Thanks in advance, This is Paul (talk) 11:30, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Paul, the problem I'm having with the photo is being able to connect it back to BBC. Many times the older photos get cleared out when the websites are updated. Have found one so far that I can connect to BBC, but it's in black & white: photo. Do you want to switch to this one? I'll be glad to upload it if you do. We hope (talk) 13:42, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Here's one at Telegraph they attribute to BBC in color--this can be used also. We hope (talk) 13:44, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
OK--hooked into her Charity website where the is one the page. Have archived both page & photo-added all links to the file template and added more rationale for use. See if this works now. ;) We hope (talk) 13:57, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

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Great job Paul, and may I pass on my personal congrats to add to the automated message above. C679 19:14, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks again, This is Paul (talk) 19:53, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:McFarland They have a lot of titles and they're not all strictly relating to the US, nor are they limiting them to those living there. Why not go through the catalog to see if there's anything you could use. ;) We hope (talk) 22:44, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Jenny Lind

Taking a copy from Ssilvers's talk page as user periodically deletes discussions.

So I'm quite interested to hear why the infobox is redundant in this article. Perhaps you'd like to elucidate? Surely as a biography it should have an infobox, no? This is Paul (talk) 23:43, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

No. Wikipedia articles, including biographies, do not need infoboxes. Infoboxes should only be included where they are helpful, for example in sports or political bios. See WP:INFOBOXUSE and WP:DISINFOBOX. -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:52, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
That probably negates their use in at least half of the articles I've seen in the last few weeks, but would this also be the case for GA/FAC? This is currently among several articles I'm considering for possible improvement to at least GA level, so it's good to know some of this stuff in advance. This is Paul (talk) 23:11, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Yes, especially for GA/FAC! If the infobox contains only information that is more clearly or precisely stated in the Lead and elsewhere in the article, it is often harmful, because it often emphasizes material that is not the most important information about the person, and yet it is shoved in the reader's face at the top of the article as if it were more important than other information. Plus, the boxes tend to accumulate unnoticed errors and interfere with Lead images, among other problems. Obviously, there are WP editors who love infoboxes, but I would argue that they have grown used to them and have not really thought about what impact they have on the effectiveness of the article for the vast majority of readers who are not Wikipedians. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:06, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation. Must confess I hadn't thought of the impact on non-WP readers looking at the page, but if I decide to work on this i'll definitely bear it in mind. This is Paul (talk) 14:49, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

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Hi again. I wonder if you're aware of our honorary list for DYK contributors. It looks like you're already eligible for a 50 DYK creations and expansions award! If you like, I'll set up your line and also bestow your awards. Then you just have to keep updating your line so other editors will know when you reach the next DYK milestone. Let me know. Yoninah (talk) 21:38, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

OK, you're all set. Since you're already over 50 DYKs, I just awarded the larger medal. Congratulations! Yoninah (talk) 09:39, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
You're welcome. By the way, the honors list distinguishes between creating/expanding DYKs and nominating other people's work for DYK. I noticed on your DYK page that you have done both. It would be helpful if you could break out two lists on your page, numbering the nominations you created/expanded and the DYKs for which you were nominator, so we can keep track of the medals in each category. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 22:18, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for updating. I'm really not going to check all your nominations; that's for you to keep track of. Meanwhile, I'll change your line total to 59 creations/expansions on the honors list. Keep 'em coming! Best, Yoninah (talk) 23:15, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

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Please see note under your DYK review. Yoninah (talk) 16:59, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the note on my talk page. Yes, I remember reading your disclaimer the last time. I'm just not sure what this means for the DYK project. We are trying to increase accountability at the point of review, not leaving it for the prep builders or queue promoters to have to review the article so in-depth. We are finding so much close paraphrasing lately that you may be AGF'ing something full of copyvios that will hopefully be caught later down the line – although when it comes to pulling hooks from the prep sets, queues, or main page, it leaves a bad feeling with the page creator. I would feel better if you discussed this with User:BlueMoonset to determine how to sign off on your reviews, perhaps asking for further review from someone who can check for copyvios. As for this article, I'll be happy to check it for close paraphrasing. Yoninah (talk) 19:12, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
I think you can count this as a QPQ, since you did all the work. But please check with User:BlueMoonset about this, too. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 20:40, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
The page nominator has completed his QPQ. I leave it to you to add the green icon so you can claim this review for your own QPQ. Yoninah (talk) 20:43, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

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@Bgwhite: Thanks, I hadn't realised I'd done that, but it's fixed now. BTW, you forgot to add your signature. :) This is Paul (talk) 11:39, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
Grrrrr, I'm forgetting to add my signature more and more. It really isn't helpful when doing a joke. Bgwhite (talk) 17:04, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

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File:1947 Jo Stafford.JPG :-) We hope (talk) 23:01, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

I try to keep a check on offerings from The New York Sunday News because they had such great photos in their magazine. It had been a bit since I'd looked in on that and was really happy to see Jo there. The newspaper took their own photos for the magazine at a studio in their building, so if you see or saw it in the "News", you won't see it anywhere else. :) We hope (talk) 23:10, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
How about Jo Stafford discography? We hope (talk) 23:12, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
Looks nice! :-) We hope (talk) 23:25, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

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In the lead for Joan Robinson Hill. Someone who apparently doesn't realize that citations are rarely in leads tacked a CN on it. The same person leaves POV tags without explanation also. ;//// We hope (talk) 00:59, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

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It's a very fine new article, there's not honestly a lot which I can add to it. It could be worth a WP:DYK if you want to nominate.

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Consensus is basically whatever people have generally agree to be the correct description of someone, which in this case has been to say she is an English television presenter, largely I suspect because she was born in Leeds (according to an unreliable source). It's true she represented Wales at gymnastics, and her father is Welsh, so I'm not sure how that leaves things. Check out someone like Shane Lowry, an Australian footballer of Irish descent who played for Ireland as an Under 21. The British v English/Welsh/Scottish/Northern Irish argument is one that's raged on Wikipedia for as long as I can remember, with people often changing biographies to suit their own personal preference. I always tend to change them back unless there's a good reason for altering it. In this case there is an argument to change her nationality to British, but when doing something like that the categories need to be changed as well. I'm going to stick my neck out and change this, but I can't guarantee someone else won't change it back. This is Paul (talk) 13:55, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks, seven years of happy editing. Can't believe it's been that long. :) This is Paul (talk) 13:52, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

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Because you haven't provided a good reason why it should be changed other than it being your own personal preference. Changes of this nature should only be made with consensus, so in future please discuss matters like this on the talk page before making changes. This is Paul (talk) 20:34, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

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