User talk:Theilert

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Welcome!

Hello, Theilert, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.
I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Thanks for your help on the championships

Hello, it's me again. Thanks for your help on the FIS Nordic World Ski Championships 2007. I greatly appreicate it. Chris 00:20, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No problem.... lil2mas (talk)

UEFA Champions League 2007-08

Thanks for your help on UEFA Champions League 2007-08. I just wanted to drop a quick reminder that outcome comments belong on the UEFA Champions League 2007-08 group stage page. Please see it for more info. --Jacobko (talk) 22:36, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Noted! lil2mas (talk)

2007-08 Tour de Ski

Hello,

are you sure about the results of the Tour de Ski race in Nové Město na Moravě on 29 December, which you have added into the Wikipedia article? I have read completely different results (with Lukáš Bauer as the winner). Unfortunately, in my source there were not enough details necessary to fill in the Wikipedia table so I would like to ask you to check it. Thanks. Jan.Kamenicek (talk) 09:37, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clarification. Jan.Kamenicek (talk) 16:54, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

One more request: Could you please add some references to the results? It would be very helpful. Thanks very much again. Jan.Kamenicek (talk) 22:21, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done =) lil2mas (talk)

Greetings from WikiProject Cycling!

Thank you for your recent contributions to one of Wikipedia's cycling-related articles. Given the interest you've expressed by your edits, have you considered joining WikiProject Cycling? It's a group dedicated to improving the overall quality of all cycling-related articles.

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask at the project talk page, or feel free to ask me on my talk page.  Severo^TC 00:12, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I will, thanks! lil2mas (talk)

You deserve it

I'm just patrolling recent changes and I notice you are making and using templates like mad! So you get the...

		The Template Barnstar
		For creating SO MANY templates Pupster21 Talk To Me 12:41, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, you're far too kind... lil2mas (talk)

Pieter Vink links

All links to Pieter Vink have been restored. Alexf^42 00:01, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! lil2mas (talk)

Injury time goals

I have started a discussion on this matter here. Please contribute. – PeeJay 22:20, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I will =) lil2mas (talk)

Vermont Democratic primary, 2008

You are correct in the layout change; my apologies. Andareed (talk) 01:16, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Apology accepted =) lil2mas (talk) 01:18, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2008 Paris - Nice

Fränk Schleck is from Luxembourg (not Netherlands). Pay attention!

Their flags are so alike, my mistake... lil2mas (talk)

Club logos

Hi there. You probably don't know this, but as club logos are subject to copyright laws, they can only be used on Wikipedia when their usage is deemed to be Fair Use. Their use on tournament season articles, such as the ones you have been adding the logos to, does not usually constitute Fair Use. It would be really helpful if you would go through your recent edits and remove the logos. Cheers. – PeeJay 23:06, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I did not know that, thanks for cleaning up my mess =) lil2mas (talk) 16:09, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2008 Stanley Cup Playoffs

Hello Theilert! Thank you very much for your help in editing the details on the 2008 Stanley Cup Playoffs page. I would like to invite you to look at the discussion page for that page, as we are currently considering an alternate series summary table. You can find that specific discussion here Once you are there, you can look over the discussion and click on the box titled "To leave your comments about your preference regarding the series summary tables" to leave your comments. Your thoughts regarding this matter are greatly appreciated. Thanks! --Sukh17 ^T • C • E 22:10, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment posted! lil2mas (talk)

You might want to check on the concensus to change tables before just changing them. Especially since there are discussions to change the tables to a different format all together. You also only changed some of the series and not all of them. -Djsasso (talk) 22:34, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've posted my comment on the talk page, but there hasn't been any inputs from someone else. They are all only temporary tables until a consesus has been reached anyway. And the reason why I've just changed a few of them, was so it should be easier to remove them if they were disapproved. lil2mas (talk) 22:53, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry your signature name doesn't match your username so I didn't realize that was you. That being said currently the concensus is to use what was there already as that is what is used on all the prior seasons. His option is a new option for the page. As would be your option. -Djsasso (talk) 22:55, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I know, but Sukh17 has implemented his layout, so no more problems =) lil2mas (talk) 00:04, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

[1] Man, I couldn't find out what I did wrong through that lol. Much obliged. :) Jmlk17 23:29, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! =) lil2mas (talk) 00:02, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

why

Why did you change the layout of the 2008 nhl playoff page? It was much better the old way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.206.83 (talk) 23:31, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you're talkin' about the current layout, you'll have to talk Sukh17 (talk), it's his layout, mine was only temporary. Take a look at Talk:2008 Stanley Cup Playoffs, and bring your comments there. lil2mas (talk) 00:01, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

flags

You accidentally added the country flags back on the NHL playoffs page. They were removed as per the Wikipedia Manual of Style. Please see the discussion in the talk page of the NHL playoffs page, and remove the flags that you re-added. Thanks!

If you disagree with the Manual of Style itself, then maybe you should participate on the discussion in the talk page of the manual of style, but for now, we must follow it!

--Sonjaaa (talk) 06:53, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, it was accidental, but I would do it again, because it seems like you've misunderstood the paragraph. The paragraph [2] you're referring to was added by User:Gnevin about two weeks ago, and was only added after a suggestion on the talk page, which hadn't been discussed and therefore haven't reached consensus.
Anyway; The reason why he is suggesting flags on "Formula 1 drivers" as incorrect use, is because there aren't any National team for Formula 1 drivers. But he is suggesting that flags on "Football players" should be allowed, since they can be a part of a National team."Hockey players" can also be a part of a National team, and can therefore, according to Gnevin, have a flag next to them. lil2mas (talk) 00:14, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Diacritics in 2008 Stanley Cup Playoffs

Just a quick note. For ice hockey articles, it has been agreed upon through WP:HOCKEY that we are to avoid the use of diacritics. I'm just mentioing this as I notice you put them back into the statistical leaders section of the 2008 Stanley Cup Playoffs article here after they had previously been removed. Thanks! – Nurmsook! (talk) 17:39, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's a shame, I think athletes deserve the right to get their name spelled right! Too bad some people are too lazy to use diacritics, but very eager when it comes to removing them! =( lil2mas (talk)

Thanks

All that work on the penalty shoutout box and you come in and have it done in 30 seconds. Thanks... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.156.100.120 (talk) 18:18, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Amazing what can be done in 30 seconds... =P lil2mas (talk)

Norwegian Premier League

Do you follow the Norwegian Premier League a lot? I would like to get some Norwegian soccer on Wikinews. Kingjeff (talk) 18:50, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I do follow Norwegian FOOTBALL (not soccer, hehe), but I'm not a "journalist", so I think I'll have to pass on your offer, sorry... lil2mas (talk)

Thanks

I'm a new member of Wikipedia and you are the person who encouraged me, so thamk you very much! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alaz123 (talk • contribs) 08:43, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia! =) lil2mas (talk)

2008 tour de france

Well done on your edits. I think they were well made and thankyou for helping us out. Lympathy ^Talk 16:40, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comment, nice to hear my work is appreciated! lil2mas (talk) 17:11, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Olympic road race

I put the table for last Olympics's finishing times in my sandbox to easily put in the times from today's race, but does it perhaps need this IOC template you put in for the non-finishers? If so, I am unsure how that would work in the table, perhaps not at all.

And this is more of an opinion question, but is it suitable to use the word "peloton" on that page? The broadcasters I'm listening to are using it, but that seems like it has to be a Tour-specific term, doesn't it? Nosleep (talk) 08:44, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not familiar with using this template actually, but I've seen it been used in many other Olympic articles. It has something to do with getting the right flag according to the IOC. Try to use the template, but if it doesn't work, just let it be and let other users modify it if necessary! ;o)

When it comes to my opininon, I think peloton would be ok to use, but look in this glossary and see if you can use some the synonyms. If you decide to use peloton, then wikilink it as I did. =) lil2mas (talk) 09:01, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I already used "main field" once, I think that's good. I'll just toss in the table as is then, and if someone wants to change it they can. Thanks. Nosleep (talk) 09:04, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Um...help :p Obviously I don't what some of these abbreviations for that template are supposed to be (Costa Rica? El Salvador? Iran? New Zealand? I just guessed, and I apparently guessed wrong). Where would I find that information? Nosleep (talk) 09:32, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! And just so you know, I didn't take out your columning. It just went away when I put in those extra non-finishers. I probably should have gotten an edit conflict; I'm not sure why I didn't. Nosleep (talk) 09:40, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tone should have told you

Just as he should have told me - Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Cycling at the 2008 Summer Olympics - Men's road race

As a major contributor to the article, you'd probably best have a look. Don't fall asleep ^zzzzzz 23:56, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, I haven't had much time on my hands, since a new semester on business school have started again. But our first FA, not bad... =) lil2mas (talk) 14:05, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We did it!! Yesssss!!!!! :D :D :D Don't fall asleep ^zzzzzz 05:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Difference between competition and round templates; redirects

The difference between competition and round is that a competition template should link to the head of a certain article while a round template should link to a specific sub-part of a certain article. The link information is stored in the respective categories (Competitions and Rounds). For example:

|s=2009-10 |c=Norwegian First Division links to the template Template:Fb competition 2009 Norwegian First Division, where the exact link and the text to be displayed is stored.

|s=2009-10 |c=UEL |r=QR2 links to the template Template:Fb round2 2009-10 UEL QR2. This template contains a link to the corresponding subheading within the UEFA Europa League 2009-10 article and the text to be displayed.

If round templates are to be applied (this is usually the case for cup-like or other rather complex tournaments), both the c= and r= links must be given in order to ressolve the link correctly.

I hope this helps. If not, don't hesitate to ask further questions. :-)

As for your suggestion: Oddly enough, I did not experience any forwardings to the redirect pages. If I clicked on a link, the correct round of the correct article appeared. This might probably be a browser (I use Firefox 3.0) or a cache issue. Nevertheless, since I am updating most of the current season articles by myself (with main assistance by Rougue1987, because it takes some time to do 50+ leagues), the corresponding templates will be changed anyway during the weekend, so there is nothing to worry about. :-)

Cheers, Hockey-holic (talk) 15:17, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explanation, it makes a whole lot more sense now! =) lil2mas (talk)

Hi

I really appreciate your effort and I hope you'll have success with that area. Doing anything to improve Wikipedia is great but I suggest you (although I'm not too experienced as I'm a relatively new editor) that you could first start some new unwritten cup or other articles (check out the template at the bottom) instead of editing existing ones. This is only a suggestion, not a policy. But as I said before, anything you do is helpful.SonjiCeli (talk) 19:01, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was just dropping you a note, not a question.. I think you should edit what you know and are interested in, rather than edit articles you are completely unknowing about! But hey, that's just me... lil2mas (talk)

Vålerenga, Norwegian Cup and UEL 2009-10

Are you sure that Vålerenga will qualify for QR3? I'm just asking because we recently had some problems with a similar problem at the Faroe Islands article, where EB/Streymur won the double as well, thus passing the cup winners' spot over to finalists B36. Originally, SonjiCeli, Rougue1987 and me all thought that B36 would earn the usual place in QR2, but other people stated that the order of entries would be adjusted in a way as seen in the article (please read it there, it is a little complicated to explain), citing section 1.04 of the UEFA Cup regulations.

So, if those were applied here, Vålerenga would swap rounds with the third-placed team (most likely to be Tromsø at the moment), but again, we are not certain that this will be true at all. Have you got any information on the topic? Cheers, Hockey-holic (talk) 22:33, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Rogue1987 started a discussion on this issue on the UEFA Europa League 2009–10 talk page, I have written my "statement" there... =) lil2mas (talk) 14:32, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

November 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit you made to Roy Miller has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thank you. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 21:52, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I blanked the page after merging it with a duplicate; Roy Miller (footballer), so that I could move Roy Miller (disambiguation) to this page. I thought Wikipedia generated an automatic edit summary when blanking a page, as it does when rediricting a page... But I guess not! I did, however, come up with a solution for my actions =) Anyway just irritating to get a reverted-message on my talk page, when I almost always provide an edit summary =( lil2mas (talk) 22:22, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Expatriate footballers in Spain

Yeah, I don't know what this guy is doing. Best bet would be to bring it up at WT:FOOTY and see if it can be resolved there. I have reverted many of his edits in the past and have done a few today but as you say there are way too many to do all of them in a timely manner. Hubschrauber729 (talk) 18:09, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Cameroonian expatriate footballers in Austria

Hello. I've noticed that you have added several new "triple intersection" categories such as this one for footballers. While I appreciate your efforts to improve Wikipedia's coverage of football, this appears to be a case of overcategorization (as Category:Expatriate footballers in Austria would suffice). Indeed, there was a CfD on this very topic which resulted in delete all. See: [3]. I am going to begin reverting these triple intersects back to the parent categories and wanted to let you know. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best regards. Jogurney (talk) 22:28, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My reason for "overcategorising", as you call it, is to reduce the number of categories on a footballers article. I have witnessed an article of a footballer playing in 5 countries, having 13 categories like;

• Category:Expatriate footballers
• Category:Norwegian expatriate footballers
• Category:Expatriate footballers in Germany
• ...in Portugal, Spain, the Netherlands, England
• Category:Norwegian expatriates
• Category:Expatriates in Germany
• ...in Portugal, Spain, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom

...which could be reduced to the only 5: Category:French expatriate footballers in Spain, Portugal, Germany, the Netherlands, England.

If you look at: Category:Norwegian expatriate footballers, isn't that category easier to use and maintain than :Category:Brazilian expatriate footballers?
...and how about Category:Expatriate footballers in Norway vs. :Category:Expatriate footballers in Germany.

I actually noticed someone else starting the categorisation like that and thought it was a good idea, so I followed him/her. I weren't aware of the discussion or else I would have contributed with my views. However, I think I made my point clear and hope you will take it into consideration before reverting the work some of us editors have made! lil2mas (talk) 23:42, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. First, let me comment that no article needs both Expatriate footballers and Expatriate footballers in "Country X" categories (only the latter). Also, there is no need for an article to have both Expatriates in "Country X" and Expatriate footballers in "Country X" categories (only the latter). In fact, the "Country Y" expatriate footballers in "Country X" categories should result in exactly the same number of categories on a players article. The difference is that there are potentially 200x more total categories created for each country. I don't think there is any point in creating categories that will only have 1 member (such as Slovak expatriate footballers in Costa Rica - there is one!). If you feel that the CfD came to an incorrect conclusion, I'd recommend going for a deletion review. If not, I plan to revert as many of these categories as possible under the consensus already established. Best regards. Jogurney (talk) 00:23, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about leaving out the category:X county expatriate footballers. I noticed many articles had that category plus the X country expatriate footballers in country Y. My mistake. Jogurney (talk) 03:15, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Cut-and-paste moves

What you did was fine, except you should have noted where the disambig text from Roy Miller came from in the edit summary - I did this at Talk:Roy Miller. A proper history merge can't be done because the content from Roy Miller was *merged* to Roy Miller (footballer), and any history merge would cause overlapping history entries. Graham87 01:04, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

{{Croatia-handball-bio-stub}}

Hi - I see you have recently created one or more new stub types. As it states at Wikipedia:Stub, at the top of most stub categories, and in many other places on Wikipedia, it is recommended that new stub types are proposed prior to creation at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals, in order to check whether the new stub type is already covered by existing stub types, whether it is named according to stub naming guidelines, whether it is otherwise correctly formatted, whether it reaches the standard threshold for creation of a new stub type, and whether it crosses existing stub type hierarchies. Your new stub type is currently listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Discoveries - please feel free to make any comments there as to any rationale for this stub type. And please, in future, consider proposing new stub types first! Grutness...wha? 00:54, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Theilert you (lil2mas?) wrote: Hi, after the recent discussion regarding handball biography stubs, is it so that I can create stub-templates for all nations, when I'm temporarily categorising them under the general category? And when a template is used on more than 60 articles, I can create an own category for that nation? If so, do I have to "apply" for creating every national template or when I create a category (when one exceeds 60 articles)? Since these templates aren't "new templates", but only minor changes from similar ones, wouldn't it be best to just list them here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types?

Not quite, since the discoveries page and the proposals page serve different purposes and less people tend to watch the discoveries page. They're still new templates - they have different names and different purposes, even if they're only slight changes to other types - so there's still a need to propose at least a general intention at WP:WSS/P (something like "I'd like to create by-nation templates for handball stubs, with categories for any that reach 60 stubs", mentioning the discussion that's taken place at WSS/D and that there are similar splits for other sports). If you get the okay from that (and I don't see any reason why you shouldn't), then it'd be okay to go ahead, listing any you make on the stub type page. Grutness...wha? 00:09, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pawel Piwko

A tag has been placed on Pawel Piwko, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect to a nonexistent page.

If you can fix this redirect to point to an existing Wikipedia page, please do so and remove the speedy deletion tag. However, please do not remove the speedy deletion tag unless you also fix the redirect. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. K50 Dude ROCKS! 01:23, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template ct

Brilliant idea, and it looks like it's working well enough. One thing I've noticed so far - I was toying with the parameters a little in previews and I noticed that {{ct|SAX|2008b}} gives "Team CSC-Saxo Bank." There's no hyphen in that name. Another is {{ct|ALM|2006}}, which give "Ag2r Prévoyance." I'm quite sure the G and the R were capitalized under this team name (they certainly were in the Wikipedia article at the time), and that they're only now lower-case with La Mondiale.

Again, terrific idea, and I look forward to getting used to using it! Don't fall asleep ^zzzzzz 17:52, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

FIS Nordic World Ski Championships 2009 date and athlete edits

I noticed you are making edits to the FIS Nordic World Ski Championships 2009 regarding dates and athletes. I understand your reasoning behind this, but do the discussing on the article's talk page before doing it. i had to revert your edits as a result. Chris (talk) 15:59, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help so far on the championships. It is greatly appreciated. Chris (talk) 23:48, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		As a matter of apology and a matter of thanks regarding your assistance with the FIS Nordic World Ski Championships 2009 as a matter of thanks in correcting me on article style and procedures. Chris (talk) 21:59, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have the article up now for GA review so let's see if we get it. Given the amount of inline cites, this has a good chance. Chris (talk) 01:56, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I will get the prose put in for the events since the three subsections got DYKs earlier today. I have not been able to help much on this as I would like to computer problems at home, but those have been fixed. We will need to get information on the championship organization prior to 2007. See what you can dig up. I have asked User:Voletyvole who is from the Czech Republic for assistance on this. Thanks. Chris (talk) 23:19, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Prose is in. I am pulling up the archives of the FIS Newsflash which only started in December 2004 to get the 2004-07 information added in. Apparently, Voletyvole was not able to do complete translation from Czech to English on the Czech press's comments, so let's see if we can find any issues from the organizing officials or the Czech government to suuport the Czech press's "failure" issue. We need to get this done by 09:30 UTC tomorrow. We are close. Thank you again for your work. Chris (talk) 21:03, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

BD template substitutions

Hi. Check discussion in Template talk:Lifetime and write your opinion as well, please. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:56, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I will... lil2mas (talk)

The Original Barnstar

		The Original Barnstar
		A long-overdue pat on the back for the amazing cycling team template. It works wonders, and you should be proud of thinking up such an idea and getting it to work so well and so soon.-- Don't fall asleep ^zzzzzz 03:09, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Another Barnstar

		The Editor's Barnstar
		For your assistance in getting the FIS Nordic World Ski Championships 2009 in Liberec to Good Article status which it received yesterday, I award you this Barnstar as a matter of thanks. I look forward to working you again in the future. Chris (talk) 13:36, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just wanted to let you know that the work you did on the FIS Nordic World Ski Championships 2009 with me on getting to GA status is going to be in an article I am working for Quality Progress, the monthly publication for the American Society for Quality in June. Your user name has not been mentioned, but you are listed as a user from Norway. I will send you the link when the article comes out. Chris (talk) 21:09, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article will be in the July issue. Sorry about that. I will still get you a copy of it though. Chris (talk) 03:22, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Explaining my edit

Just to explain my revert of your edit at Ice Hockey World Championships [4], I thought it would just be simpler (and more stable) to stay with the 2008 rankings for now, and then update everything at once once the 2009 Championships conclude. It also makes things easier to understand. However, I do like the image promotion/relegation system you added (although I'm not sure if it's needed for the top division or division III) and I'll readd that once everything is updated. -- Scorpion^0422 00:08, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I respect that... I think it seemed like a great addition, so I'm glad you liked it. Symbols do make it easier to keep things in system, right? lil2mas (talk)

Style guide

I've revised the first style guide with additional questions. Please go there and answer them. Nosleep ^break my slumber 04:54, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Great, I will look into the new style guide when I have the time, but right now I'm in the middle of some exams and therefore quite busy. ;o) lil2mas (talk) 12:41, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

CFD

Thanks for the input. Rettetast (talk) 19:44, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem... lil2mas (talk) 19:53, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AaB Ice hockey - AaB Ishockey

Why did you moved AaB Ice hockey to AaB Ishockey? What is your argument to use the Danish name, AaB Football and AaB Handball are still using the English name... --Patchfinder (talk) 23:25, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I moved this article to the current namespace, because this is the club's real name. Nowhere on their official website is the English transliteration used. This is also the name used by the Danish League. This is common practice, when it comes to Nordic teams, e.g. Vålerenga Ishockey & Vålerenga Fotball. The AaB handball article should be moved to AaB Håndbold and the football article should be moved to AaB Fodbold or Aalborg BK (football). I will move the handball article now, please bring your views on what you think the football article should be named. lil2mas (talk) 08:17, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, it sounds reasonable. AaB Ishockey do not play very many international games, but when they do I believe they are named Aalborg BK. I know for sure AaB Fodbold is using Aalborg BK as name in international games, so the right name for them might be Aalborg BK (football) as you suggest. But maybe the names for AaB Ishockey and AaB Håndbold should be similar like Aalborg BK (Ice hockey) and Aalborg BK (handball), I am not sure.. --Patchfinder (talk) 09:38, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Platanias

A recent edit you made to Platanias made the references stop working. When adjusting the format of pages, please keep in mind that the last use of the <ref> tag must be before the reference list itself (either <references /> or {{reflist}}). --Philosopher ^Let us reason together. 14:35, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Aha, I didn't notice that... Thanks for fixing it =) lil2mas (talk)

Got you into WP:Signpost of this week

I got you into the WP:Signpost this week regarding the Quality Progress article that was done last month. If you would like an e-mail attachment of the article, you can e-mail me privately and I can send you the attachment of the article. Chris (talk) 13:06, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of teams and cyclists in the 2009 Giro d'Italia/archive1

Hi, are you keeping track of this FLC? Dabomb87 (talk) 22:20, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gee

I thought I maybe missed one or two... /facepalm. But thanks for the updates :) Alex finds herself awake at night _{(Talk · What keeps her up)} 09:37, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Joshua King (footballer)

I actually created the article yesterday, so I just moved it from my userspace :-P – PeeJay 20:45, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I was hoping that Eikrem would come on too. I'm always pleased to see youngsters make their debuts for the club, especially when they've actually come up through the youth system. I didn't actually see tonight's game, though; I had to listen to it on the radio since my dad just cancelled our subscription to Sky Sports, but I'm glad King got the opportunities he did. Just a shame he couldn't convert them. – PeeJay 21:15, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah man! I saw the result on the club website last night. Pretty good to see Kingy get his first two goals for the reserves, and I've been keeping an eye on Eikrem's progress since he joined the club, so it's good to see him get two too! It would be nice to see them play against Sunderland tomorrow, but I'm not sure it's going to happen. – PeeJay 10:11, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Nice

Nice functions you added to the 2010 Olympic hockey templates I recently created. Thanks. LarRan (talk) 16:57, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, I'm here to help. =) lil2mas (talk) 21:33, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There seems to be a minor flaw with the changes you did. The category "Talk message boxes" propagates from the talk message box template you created to the standings templates I created. I don't think that's the idea, but I can't figure out how to fix it, as the code in the Template:Tmbox is pretty intricate. Do you have a clue? LarRan (talk) 19:12, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I used 2010 FIFA World Cup qualification (UEFA) group talk as a template, when I made this one. And when I check the category, there are many other similar templates which also get categorized. But I can understand why you're reacting. I have never actually given it any thought before, but it looks like this box actually is designed to be used on talk pages, shouldn't really matter though. But since the category-syntax is already given in the {{Tmbox}}-template, I don't know how to remove it, other than substing the template and "<noinclude>" the category. If you still feel that the category needs to/should be removed, go ahead and subst it. I won't argue... =) lil2mas (talk) 21:33, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Race names, dashes and spaces

I will confess that I might be careless in thinking about what length of dash I insert in articles and links to them, and usually shrug off edits that change them, I was surprised by your recent changes to 2010 UCI World Ranking:

• The race links were directly copied across from the 2009 rankings article, with just the year changed. It seems likely that if the first major Belgian race last year was in an article called 2009 Gent-Wevelgem, then next season's race is more likely to be created at 2010 Gent-Wevelgem than at 2010 Gent–Wevelgem with a longer dash.

You didn't do anything wrong, I just corrected the links according to its main article, i.e. Gent–Wevelgem. I would also presume that the article is most likely to be created at 2010 Gent-Wevelgem, but since that ain't the correct namespace, I replaced the hyphen (-) with an en-dash (–), hoping that the creator of that article would use that (2010 Gent–Wevelgem) redlink when he/she is going to create the article. You see, I don't have the capacity to move all the race pages myself, so I hope by correcting some links, others will follow and do the same. Hopefully more! =) lil2mas (talk) 01:02, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Is there a reason why Paris–Nice is rendered with no spaces around the dash, whatever length it might be, but Milan – San Remo has spaces? Is there an expectation that the articles will be given names reflecting what I assume is a difference in practice between French and Italian, because it is a technicality that editors seem to have been unaware of before?

Yep, there is a reason. =) Actually the same reason as for the cycling teams, which was made aware for us during the process of getting "List of teams and cyclists in the 2009 Giro d'Italia" up to a Featured List. I explained further on Alex' talkpage. Take a look and don't hesitate asking if anything's unclear! =) lil2mas (talk) 01:02, 28 October 2009 (UTC) Take a look at: Talk:Milan – San Remo, as well ;o)[reply]

I am perfectly happy with changes if they better relate good grammar and semantics, but I can anticipate inconsistency of names and links with these changes. Kevin McE (talk) 08:31, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Spellings

I am using the NHL spellings on the pages that are articles where the cites are from NHL guides. The Draft articles. Other spellings are spellings from other languages. You cannot use Djurgarden, that refers to a place, not a hockey clob. Using HC is a common abbreviation. Alaney2k (talk) 22:08, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Those spellings are wrong, and Wikipedia is not the place to spread incorrect information. You can use the references to source information, but that information should be adjusted to Wikipedia articles where applicable (as in this case). When you're listing hockey clubs, you can leave out the abbreviation, as it is clear they are talking about the club, not the place. Just as Yahoo! Sports does here. I can give you more examples if you like. BTW: By using your logic, we should alter all the NHL clubs to Tampa Bay HC, Philadelphia HC, Detroit HC, San Jose HC, and so on... Is that what you want? lil2mas (talk) 22:19, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on 1997 NHL Entry Draft. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. Could all parties involved in this please take the discussion on spelling to the article talk page please.

Just seeing if we can nip this in the bud. You would all be best to take the discussion to the talk page of the article. Please also note that none of the changes are vandalism, no matter which spelling you prefer. Talk about it please. Thanks —Duae Quartunciae (talk · cont) 22:26, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, suitably spanked and fast! :-) So, are you open to discussing this? It is the policy of WP:HOCKEY to use the English/NHL spellings on NHL pages. This has been discussed in WT:HOCKEY. Plus, I want to use the spellings of the source references, like the NHL guide. If I cannot find a source, that's different. I don't really want to fight about it, I just want to follow policy. Alaney2k (talk) 22:38, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a spanking. You have the same warning, Alaney2k. Take the discussion to article talk space please. —Duae Quartunciae (talk · cont) 22:43, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My edits were not vandalism. Don't mark them like that. That's somewhat abusive, in my opinion. I think you simply over-reacted, no big deal. This is Wikipedia, I think we are all trying to 'get it right.' So, what article talk space? Alaney2k (talk) 22:50, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have placed a section within the page Talk:1997 NHL Entry Draft. That would be a better place, as all editors involved in the article will see it. I have taken the liberty of kicking off discussion with some thoughts of my own. But I won't mind what consensus comes up with. —Duae Quartunciae (talk · cont) 23:09, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Theilert. Please only use rollback for obvious vandalism and not in a content dispute. Rettetast (talk) 23:16, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Howdy Theilert. Normally I'd side with Alaney2k, but have chosen to remain neutral. I feel lucky enough, to have the player names spelt correctly in english. GoodDay (talk) 20:49, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've already told him the word is 'spelled', not 'spelt'. You dont have to correct him. :-) Alaney2k (talk) 21:26, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation

In Sweden and Finland, to disambiguate two teams with the same nickname, is it 'city nickname' or 'nickname city'? Alaney2k (talk) 18:35, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again, sorry about us getting off on the wrong foot, last time around. My choice of template last time was maybe uncalled for; I just wanted to let you know that I thought your edits were unconstructive and that they had been reverted, before you made the changes to further articles. Since you were rapidly implementing these changes, I had to find a template fast. So I chose one with a low degree, and skimmed through it to see if there were any harsh messages on it. (I only wanted to give a friendly shout-out!) I thought there weren't any, so I used it. Unfortunately, the edit was called vandalism, something I didn't want to call it, as it clearly wasn't. Hope you accept my apology, and I will try to clarify some of the issues at Talk:1997 NHL Entry Draft during the weekend. I hope we can put the past behind us, and focus more on the subject of matter.

Back to your question: The use of nicknames in the Nordic countries (actually Europe as a whole) is a rather new phenomenon. Some clubs have them, some clubs don't. Some clubs use them, some clubs don't. It is, unfortunately, not like the NHL where it always is (toponym)(nickname). I can give you a good example, by looking at a list of ice hockey teams in Norway (I'm Norwegian by the way). That list is a complete list of all senior competitive ice hockey clubs in Norway. I want you to mainly focus on the teams in GET-ligaen, as it is the only professional league in Norway. (If you look at the First Division, you already find several B-teams (similar to NHL's minor league affiliates, but here administered by the club itself), like Vålerenga 2.) I will now present the different structures of team names:

• 1. Departments of a multi-sports club – Most ice hockey teams in Scandinavia are formed as departments of a multi-sports club.
  • a. Clubs with sports suffixes – Look at Vålerenga Ishockey: It is part of the multi-sports club Vålerengens IF, and have departments for several sports. The club have chosen to call their two largest deparments; Fotball (English: football) and Ishockey (English: ice hockey), after their. (The club also have an American football department, which actually have a nickname: Vålerenga Trolls.)
    • Other teams like this: Furuset Ishockey (Furuset IF)
  • b. Clubs with nicknames – Look at Frisk Tigers: It is part of the multi-sports club IF Frisk Asker. The club has chosen to give the elite hockey team an English nickname.
  • c. Clubs with nicknames and sports suffixes – Look at Manglerud Star Ishockey: It is part of the multi-sports club IL Manglerud Star. Since the multi-sports club already have a nickname, the club chose to add a sports suffix.

• 2. Pure ice hockey clubs – Some teams break out of their original multi-sports club (or never been part of one at all), to start a pure ice hockey club.
  • a. Clubs with abbreviations – Look at Lillehammer IK: IK is here short for Ishockeyklubb (English: ice hockey club). IHK is sometimes also used to abbreviate this term. The abbreviaton could also be in front of the team name, but then as a proper noun. (see point 2.d)
    • Other teams like this: Lørenskog IK, Rosenborg IHK
  • b. Clubs with nicknames – Look at Stavanger Oilers: The club's official name is Stavanger Ishockeyklubb (Stavanger IK), but they market their club with the English nickname Oilers. (Like the Edmonton Oilers)
    • Other teams like this: Storhamar Dragons, Trondheim Black Panthers
  • c. Clubs with a fictional name, and a nickname – Look at Sparta Warriors: The club started out as a ice hockey department under multi-sports club IL Sparta, but the club got bankrupt, and the ice hockey team started their own club. The major difference between Sparta and the earlier clubs I mentioned, is that there is no place(toponym) in Norway called Sparta. Which means this club now uses a "made up" name followed by a nickname. (You could actually draw parallels to the NBA-team Golden State Warriors.)
  • d. Clubs with only a fictional name and an abbreviation – Look at IK Comet: This club has the abbreviation in front of the team name, which is quite common (although after is the most common usage). When IK is in front of the club name, it uses its proper noun, Ishockeyklubben (English: The ice hockey club). Comet is similar to Sparta, a fictional name, no places in Norway called by that name.

Summary: I think you got more information than you could have asked for, but there's no such thing as too much is there? =) I will try to categorize some Swedish and Finnish teams under the different sections during the weekend. But the short answer to your question is that the standard rule is (toponym)(nickname) when it is using English nicknames, but as you see from my reasoning above there are also clubs who only uses a fictional name. Which mean they do not use a toponym in their team name. Like the Finnish team Jokerit: I noticed you made a redirect yesterday Helsinki Jokerit, this would be right if it were English: Helsinki Jokers. But since you just insert a toponym to specify where it comes from (not part of the official name), it should be written like Jokerit Helsinki. This would also apply for the Frisk Asker, Comet Halden and Sparta Sarpsborg. Hope this gets you somewhere! Please give me feedback on what you are planning to do. I can be at your assistance, but it would certainly help to know which case you are referring to? lil2mas (talk) 03:48, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(You can leave this discussion here) There are a couple of issues. When listing teams for a list, you use a consistent format. Especially when listing winners you use both the nickname and the city. There are unique names in North America. Regardless of the correct name, you use both. For example 67's or Marlboros in Canada. In a list we use Ottawa 67's and Toronto Marlboros. And, as I mentioned before, we designate something to indicate when a club does not have a nickname, eg Ottawa HC, or Montreal HC. Do you see? This is not an issue of correctness, or using the club's own spelling. It is a case of using consistent, verifiable spellings. Now, if you notice the older NHL drafts articles do not use diacritics, even after teams using them started to be drafted from. The newer ones do. You know how I'd rather use the NHL spelling, but I'd also like to use the toponym nickname that is appropriate. I am completely open to not following the NHL spelling if we have an alternate standard that is verifiable. That would remove my objection to using diacritics, but I do feel that we have to have some conformity and consistency. Of course, if there is an english name for a place, like Gothenburg, we have to figure out something. If we are to have a table using the toponym and nickname, then we must do so for European teams also. It's just more professional and encyclopedic. Like all encyclopedias, it is going past what is necessary. So Jokerit Helsinki is okay, rather than Helsinki Jokerit, but I want to use it in all places. I don't know what an acceptable form for Djurgardens. I don't know whether it is the Hockey Club by itself or an association team. Not clear from the article. I would accept an acronym for Hockey Club in the native language. All teams that are hockey clubs like that for that country should use that. All teams that are an association team, well they need another format, toponym Association, or Association Toponym.

If you want to leave your reply at the Entry Draft page, that's okay too. Alaney2k (talk) 04:28, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Moving football club articles

I see the point that common names should be used. However, consistency is important too. In, say, Category:English football clubs, every single club has "F.C." suffixed or "A.F.C." prefixed to it. Why should the same not apply to Norwegian clubs? Geschichte (talk) 12:20, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bump. Geschichte (talk) 21:56, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again, sorry for not answering you sooner... But here it is:

As you might have noticed, I'm not only editing football articles, but also cycling, ice hockey, handball+++ And as of late, I must say I'm starting to be a bit confused. Different projects follow different "guidelines", some of them actually being in conflict with Wikipedia policies and guidelines.

I suspect you're referring to the moves of Norwegian women's football teams; Amazon Grimstad, Arna-Bjørnar, Fortuna Ålesund, Team Strømmen and Trondheims-Ørn. I used WP:COMMONNAME as reason for moving these articles. I believe that clubs with "nicknames", don't need their different "sports club"-abbreviations, as they never or rarely use them.

I can see the point you're making on consistency, where you link to Category:English football clubs as an example. It looks neat, I must say, and I can understand why User:Alaney2k wants to change all European hockey clubs, to xxx HC (see discussions: Spellings and Disambiguation). I suppose you side with me on that discussion, since you're already reacting to my use of WP:COMMONNAME.

The problem with consistency in Category:Norwegian football clubs, is that there are none. English football clubs, almost with no exceptions use F.C. or A.F.C.. But Norwegian football clubs uses so many different abbreviations (BK, FC, FF, FK, IF, IK, IL, SK, SPK, TIF, UIL), both before the club name and after, some uses Fotball or Toppfotball, some a combination of the sport and an abbreviation, and some uses none of the previous (i.e. Hamarkameratene and ODD Grenland).

So using WP:COMMONNAME, where available, would give us a better consistency, than including an abbreviation which almost never is being used. (As in FK Mandalskameratene, I didn't know they had an abbreviation, until I started editing in Wikipedia.) By using WP:COMMONNAME, we avoid the hiding of abbreviation in articles, and also the many redirects provided by the current naming convention.

Here's a list on some of the clubs I would apply WP:COMMONNAME to:

• FK Athene Moss --> Athene Moss
• FK Bodø/Glimt --> Bodø/Glimt
• Drøbak/Frogn IL --> Drøbak/Frogn
• SK Gjøvik-Lyn --> Gjøvik-Lyn
• Kvik Halden FK --> Kvik Halden
• Larvik Turn & IF --> Larvik Turn
• FK Mandalskameratene --> Mandalskameratene
• Nybergsund IL-Trysil --> Nybergsund-Trysil
• SK Vard Haugesund --> Vard Haugesund

If you'd rather side with Alaney2k, and give them all FC-suffixes, I would be rather disappointed, but it is the only way to create full consistency on this issue. I believe that applying WP:COMMONNAME would be the second most effective way to achieve any consistency at all. It will only be used were there are little chance of misinterpretation (like not using Rosenborg, since this also can refer to the part of Trondheim were the club is originally from). Hope this answers your question. lil2mas (talk) 01:48, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

KIL Toppfotball

Hi! May I request that, when you start updating links to this article, use a piped link: [[KIL Toppfotball|Kongsvinger IL]]. More people know "Kongsvinger" than "KIL Toppfotball". Thanks in advance, Geschichte (talk) 09:22, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It was always my intention to use piped links.. ;o) But I left out the IL-suffix, since this is intuitive when reading about clubs on sports articles! =)

The reason I didn't update the links directly after the move, was because I wanted to sort out the athletics bit to Kongsvinger IL first. This was done by User:Ters the day after, the only problem was that he moved it to Kongsvinger Idrettslag, which meant I couldn't move it to its correct namespace without an administrator's action. So I decided to wait until the weekend, when I had more time. Thankfully you did it this morning, and I have now corrected all wikilinks! (...I think...) =) lil2mas (talk) 01:25, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Send you pdf file of article I did where you were mentioned

I had meant to tell you this earlier, but I did an article in the July 2009 Quality Progress, the monthly magazine of the American Society for Quality of which I am member. This was about quality not being a 9 to 5 job where I included Wikipedia in regards to the FIS Nordic World Ski Championships 2009 and getting it to Good Article status back in March where you assisted and I mentioned you in the article though you were mentioned as a user from Norway.

Would you be interested in the pdf article? If so, please go to my user page and click on the "E-mail this user" and let me know. I will send it to you later this weekend. I am heading out of where I live to visit my parents in another state in the United States and will not be back until the next day to the fact that it is Thanksgiving weekend in the United States.

Looking forward to working with you this season leading up to the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver and beyond. Chris (talk) 14:20, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your sympathy

I've never tried using AWB, an am not only unregistered, but also unaware of what I could get it to do. I don't know if it is just my screen settings, but the difference between a hyphen and an endash on the edit screen is all but imperceptible, so that didn't make the task any easier. Kevin McE (talk) 12:16, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Out-of-process move of Category:Cross-country Skiing World Cup

Hi Theilert

I see that on 23 November you created Category:FIS Cross-Country World Cup, and blanked Category:Cross-country Skiing World Cup.

You may or may not be right that the new category is more appropriately titled, but whatever the merits of the renaming, you should not have done it in this way. Because changes to categories impact on a lot of articles and are very hard to reverse, there is a process for seeking consensus before such moves, called Wikipedia:Categories for discussion (WP:CFD for short). That way, other editors have a chance to raise any concerns which they may have about the proposed change.

For any further situations where you think a category should be renamed, or deleted, or merged with another category, please nominate the category at WP:CFD and explain your reasons for the proposed change. It's not difficult to do — full instructions are at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion#Procedure, and if you use WP:TWINKLE, it will do most of the process automatically for you. This may seem like more work, but actually it isn't, because if here is a consensus to make the change, then bots do all the work.

On this occasion, I have speedily deleted the empty Category:Cross-country Skiing World Cup ... but please don't do it this way again.

Thanks! --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:42, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unreferenced BLPs

Hello Theilert! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 3 of the articles that you created are tagged as Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. If you were to bring these articles up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current 4 article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the {{unreferencedBLP}} tag. Here is the list:

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Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 20:59, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BotdeSki

Hi, I just wanted to notify you that your bot treats stub templates the wrongly on English Wikipedia. Take a look at this edit and see how your bot moves the stub templates up and before the categories. According to this guideline; en:Wikipedia:Stub#How to mark an article as a stub, stub templates are placed at the end of the article, after the External links section, any navigation templates, and the category tags, so that the stub category will appear last. It is usually desirable to leave two blank lines between the first stub template and whatever precedes it.

I have therefore corrected it so that it is right on the given article. But you should adjust your bot accordingly, to prevent it happening again.

If you have any questions regarding this matter, don't hesitate contacting me at my English talk page. Thank you. =) lil2mas (d) 18 janvier 2010 à 22:45 (CET)

Hello and thank you for reporting this anomalies. I have desactivated the cosmetic changes feature someone ask me to put in. The bot we only do the interwiki now and should work properly. Have a good day. --VanBrooken (talk) 22:43, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

TUSC token afd7c1d570d807fb55860ba591baebb6

I am now proud owner of a TUSC account!

Thanks

Thanks for mopping up after me on 1896 Paris–Roubaix, much appreciated :)Megodbike (talk) 15:25, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's a pleasure to help out! I left some notes for you on the talk page. Don't hesitate contacting me again if you need some help. =) lil2mas (talk) 15:34, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rochester Twilight Criterium

A tag has been placed on Rochester Twilight Criterium, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect to a nonexistent page.

If you can fix this redirect to point to an existing Wikipedia page, please do so and remove the speedy deletion tag. However, please do not remove the speedy deletion tag unless you also fix the redirect. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. R'n'B (call me Russ) 18:18, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Norway Ice Hockey task force

Thanks for the invitation, I signed up this evening. Fingers crossed there will be enough editors to keep it going. --Léman (talk) 22:33, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Zuccarello

I'm planning on expanding the the MZA article, are you interested in helping out? I was thinking we could try to get it to WP:DYK, so we work on it in a sandbox and then transfer the text to the article when we're done. If you could write about his career in Norway I can do the Swedish part. Cheers! —Krm500 ^(Communicate!) 01:06, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, MZA deserves a much better article than the state it is in today... Probably a good time to start now, before he gets signed by a NHL-team and the article will be stuffed with only Americanized details... :P Getting the article to DYK, will be a new acquaintance of mine. I've only assisted in GAs, FAs & FLs, but never on a biographical article, so I hope you'll give me some guidance along the way! I will see what I can find about his career in Norway ;o) Good Luck! lil2mas (talk) 02:17, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Champions League attendances

Is it not standard practice to use the attendance figures provided by UEFA as the official attendance for a match? – PeeJay 22:33, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yepp, at least that's what I do! =) I haven't edited CL-articles lately, but doesn't think there's any change... lil2mas (talk) 00:00, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

MfD nomination of User:Theilert/VM-konkurranse

User:Theilert/VM-konkurranse, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Theilert/VM-konkurranse and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Theilert/VM-konkurranse during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you.

I notice that there is an MfD discussion concerning the possible deletion of several pages in your userspace, and I do not think you have been notified, so I have left this message for your consideration. Johnuniq (talk) 11:16, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedying those userpages up for deletion

I have speedied all the files that you requested speedy-deleted via criterion U1. That covers all the pages that were originally nominated for speedy deletion with the exception of User:Theilert/OL-konkurranse. Did you intend to have that one deleted as well and just missed it, or did you intentionally leave it out? SchuminWeb (Talk) 12:41, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It was intentionally left out ;o) I'm leaving a note on the MfD-page, as we speak! Thanks for the deletion, btw... lil2mas (talk) 12:45, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1904 Tour de France

Thank you for taking over the 1904 Tour de France GA-procedure. Based on previous experience, I did not expect the review to be given so soon, but when I checked today, it had already started and was already finished! I see that it did not take a lot of work, but still somebody had to do it, and it's good you were there. --EdgeNavidad (talk) 16:07, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright

Hey, thanks for adding the details of Manchester United's pre-season tour of North America to next season's article. Just to let you know, though, it's not appropriate to simply copy the source verbatim as you appear to have done. The original text on ManUtd.com is covered by copyright, so I'm just re-writing the passage now. Again, thanks for the addition; just make sure you don't leave us in any hot water regarding copyright issues. – PeeJay 21:39, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I know some of it was a bit copyrighted. That's why I added the source after every full stop. The flow in the paragraph was very good, and for a non-native speaker it is hard to re-write such a perfect paragraph, though I did change the transitions slightly. I actually knew you were going to check the article (and re-write some parts), and the article will be heavily edited in the near future, as well as after the matches have been played. So I don't think we will experience any copyright issues anyway. But thanks for the heads-up. lil2mas (talk) 22:25, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Renaming of the UCI categories

Have you considered the renaming of Category:Presidents of UCI to Category:UCI Presidents? I didn't want to dive in again on your current proposal. It may be a different matter entirely. Getting things through their renaming process can be difficult. I didn't want to add it because any hint of opposition may delay/kill the renaming. I hope I helped with the strongly support posting the other day. Thanks. Argolin (talk) 23:24, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Book:2010 Giro d'Italia

Since you like Book:2009 Giro d'Italia, maybe could create one on the 2010 Giro d'Italia which has just started? See Help:Books if you need help, or just drop me a line on my talk page. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 00:01, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

U21 teams

It's the fact that the page is U21 that makes it seem not redundant - if it was simply U19 and U17 then it would be redundant. I'm from America (where we do not classify sports teams like this), so correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that U19 refers to 18 and 17, U17 refers to 16 and 15, etc. U21 does not refer to everyone under 21, but only people from 19-21. If you believe it is redundant, marking if for deletion would me more appropriate. I believe that it is possible to permanently replace every page this template is used in with the other templates just before deletion, if that ends up being the decided-upon option. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Quinxorin (talk • contribs) 01:01, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:FK Lyn squad

Why add/continue having this template on several articles? FK Lyn does not exist anymore and therefore does not have a squad. Geschichte (talk) 21:19, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

By the way thank you for removing it and updating Risser etc. Geschichte (talk) 21:20, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Originally I thought of renaming the template; {{Lyn Fotball squad}}, but found out that several players on the original bankrupt team still hadn't signed for "Nye" Lyn, or any other club. So I removed (and updated) the players who had signed for other clubs, and kept the remaining players in the template, so that I easily could access (and update) the player articles as they sign new contracts. The latest change I did was only to avoid the redirects, but on second thought it might be better to remove it from articles, and keep the template untranscluded... lil2mas (talk) 22:01, 29 August 2010 (UTC) [reply]

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List of teams and cyclists in the 2003 Tour de France

Of course, adding the cyclists to that list was a better option than PRODding it. Strangely, I did not think of that... So well done! --EdgeNavidad (Talk · Contribs) 06:46, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AIK IF

Hi Theilert. What is your current opinion on the article name of this article? Do you still want it moved to AIK Ishockey? HeyMid (contributions) 22:07, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I have fixed Template:Player7 now. HeyMid (contributions) 13:27, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

January 2011

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Who are you to "welcome" users who have been editing here 4 years longer than yourself? eurohockey.net and eliteprospects.com are just as reliable sources, if not more reliable than hockeydb.com. Please make a quick google search next time, before reverting sourced information. Thank you! lil2mas (talk) 17:15, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Scott Winkler for deletion

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IHF

Hey, we need to revert the edits Naurudude makes for the final ranking and others stuff. He wants to change it to an ugly layout as you and i have reverted several times now. Kante4 (talk) 19:48, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

FIS Nordic World Ski Championships 2011

Oh so we have two medal tables? Intoronto1125 (talk) 23:21, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, didn't realize you had made a duplicate. I included your enhancements to the original table ;) If you still think the medal tables should be at the top of the article, don't hesitate to start a discussion at the talk page. =) lil2mas (talk) 23:39, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am fine how it is, but the Olympics do have it at the top, and I am concerned that its buried all the way at the bottom ( I didn't notice it until today). Also do you have information on who was to compete for Peru? Intoronto1125 (talk) 23:53, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, mate... But I guess it's him: Roberto Carcelen. The only Peruvian cross-country skier at the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver: Peru’s Roberto Carcelen shares his “unforgettable experience” at Winter Olympics Best regards, lil2mas (talk) 00:13, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Renaming cycling team articles

Although the moves you made to cycling team articles last night are by no means unreasonable, there was some discussion of the matter underway at WT:CYCLING. As you are fairly active on cycling articles, could I suggest that you put the relevant project talk page on your watchlist. Kevin McE (talk) 06:02, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I already have the project talk page on my watchlist, but it's only one of 4,000, so it's not easy to keep track of all the changes ;) At least not since I'm currently finishing a Master's degree, hehe.. But I have shared my views there;) lil2mas (talk) 19:21, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work on the roster templates

Definitely a positive contribution. I am curious, though, why you added categories to all of them that will more than likely never have anything else in them (except I guess the articles on the teams themselves, which, as an aside, are nearly universally total abominations). I deleted them from templates to which I made other edits, before noticing that they were on all of them. I'm also curious why you changed the colors for the BMC template, since they're supposed to represent the jersey, but that's not as important. Do you have other plans for those categories (bluelinking them if so?) What was behind dropping the "Team" from Sky, Movistar, Katusha, and especially RadioShack? Movistar and Katusha certainly seem to use the word "Team" in their UCI-registered names, it's just after the sponsor rather than before (which is especially curious for Katusha, since they were definitely registered as "Team Katusha" last year). And Team RadioShack most certainly does use that exact name. Sky I just reverted for the sake of matching the parent article. I certainly find it awkward that a team's name could have no fundamental change, yet be quite different from one year to the next.

It would be nice if we could come to some sort of consensus about this, but I don't think anyone's paying as much attention as you or I. Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 08:23, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And have you ever thought about archiving your talk page? It looks like there's four years worth of content here. Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 08:24, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Norwegian football league names

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