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Variable gauge axles#Canada

Variable gauge axles were used for a while in 19th century Canada but proved unreliable. Some technical details, if possible??? Peter Horn 19:06, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Know no details. Sorry. Tabletop (talk) 01:03, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Then where does the info originate? Peter Horn 23:35, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I.e. what is the outside reference? Peter Horn 23:38, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Someone has found some references to VGA in Canada. See VGA in Canana

Easy Access

AfD nomination of Easy Access

An article that you have been involved in editing, Easy Access, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Easy Access. Thank you. Zondor (talk) 12:42, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help

Thanks for your help on the Lake Placid bobsleigh, luge, and skeleton track article. It earned a DYK yesterday. Chris (talk) 14:51, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On a similar topic: Thank you for your Copy editing on Beating Retreat, it is much appreciated, from a dyslexic editor over here! Philip.t.day (talk) 17:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Compagnie Internationale des Wagons-Lits

Hello Tabletop, thanks for spelling correction on the CIWL article. I noticed that there were a large number of other "whitespace" alterations on this page at the same time. The (otherwise non-visible) changes make it much harder to track down what has changed when viewing a diff, and also introduce a large CPU usage hit onto the servers. Please when you make changes try to avoid altering any other white-space layout in an article's source (although I appreciate that it can be tempting). Once again, thank you for your Wikipedia contributions! —Sladen (talk) 02:16, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Macarthur railway station

When you started Macarthur railway station, Sydney way way back in 2005, you stated Diesel trains on the Southern Highlands line also stop here. I am going to remove that because i have seen diesel trains go past there as i work near that area. I assume the diesel trains go all the way to the yards where they are supposed to go for their destination. They definitely dont stop at Macarthur.Roadrunnerz45 (talk) 01:30, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake i wont change anything. It was a misunderstanding. I thought you meant terminate but of course you didnt. My mistake. Roadrunnerz45 (talk) 02:10, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Usage of Term Remonetisation

Your use of the term Remonetisation does not seem to be correct. It would be more appropriate to use the term redenomination. Please see talk: remonetisation and talk: denomination (currency) and check your dictionary. Karl (talk) 11:50, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

By all means combine the articles, but keep a #REDIRECT from Remonetisation to Denomination (currency), since I couldn't think of the correct term. Tabletop (talk) 02:34, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No. Remonetisation must not be so redirected because it means something else. Instead all links that would benefit from such a redirection need changing as I have already done for Italian Lira#redenomination Karl (talk) 10:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of The Eighth Hour Romance

An article that you have been involved in editing, The Eighth Hour Romance, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Eighth Hour Romance. Thank you. Donald Albury 21:39, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

=)

Your attention to correct spelling makes me :D.

• User:Adrian walks away slowly before he has a chance to leave any spelling errors.

—Adrian~enwiki (talk) 2008-03-03 20:01Z

Spelling Mystake on "Get This" page

Hey there sorry you had to correct a spelling mystake of mine on the Get This page. Always had trouble with February. Thanks anyways for correcting it. MattyC3350 (talk) 05:53, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

White-space changes on Iobox

Hello Tabletop, thank you for your spelling correction on the Iobox article. I notice that there were a large number of other "whitespace" alterations to the heading on this page at the same time. The (otherwise non-visible) changes make it much harder to track down what has changed when viewing a diff, and also introduce a large CPU usage hit onto the servers. Please when you make changes try to avoid altering any other white-space layout in an article's source (although I appreciate that it can be tempting).

I recall that I previously notified you of similar changes, at #Compagnie Internationale des Wagons-Lits, one month ago above. Once again, thank you for your Wikipedia contributions! —Sladen (talk) 09:44, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again 'Tabletop', thank you for continuing to enthusiastically contribute to Wikipedia. Please could you confirm that you have read this comment regarding large numbers of white-space changes. (You are welcome to indicate either here, or on User:Sladen, both pages of which I have 'watched'). Bearing in mind you may have missed the highlight alerting you to new messages—this further update should give you another indication opportunity! Thank you for helping to improve wikipedia. —Sladen (talk) 10:55, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am reducing the amount of whitespace insert to where it is more justified, such as lack of space after full stop.Next sentance starts here. Tabletop (talk) 10:58, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for getting back! As you point out, the example of adding a space after a full stop is actually one of correcting an error and you are definitely to be congratulated for correctly doing so. A full-stop-space change alters the page when viewed; the changes I raised (spaces in heading; plus spaces in list items and newlines within paragraphs) do not visibly alter the output of the rendered article.

Changes that update the source-code without changing the layout, or visual formatting, of a page cause problems with storing and reviewing the differences of those changes. I have reviewed some of your recent changes and found it much easier to detect what was materially changed. My appreciations! —Sladen (talk) 12:11, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The problem of lack of space after full stops (periods) is most noticable in contributions by sub-continentals (IN,PK,BG,SL), who Are also Poorish At capitalisation! Tabletop (talk) 05:49, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This concern is about unnecessary white-spaces changes, not about useful edits. —Sladen (talk) 15:26, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling correction methodology

Spelling corrections really need to be done one at a time with manual control because there are too many exceptions that have to be dealt with:

• deliberate errors in say historical documents need to be left alone.
• what if there are more than one correction.
• foreign languages and proper names need to be left alone.
• Image:file_names.jpg

When a misspelled word is encounterd, say foriegn or forein, it makes sense to deal with all similar misspellings by doing a search using the button on the left hand side of the screen. Wikipedia helpfully lists each matching misspelled word with one or two lines of contextual text. As each occurrance is corrected, then, depending on version of Internet Explorer, the listing of that misspelled word is updated immediately or when the screen is updated.

A count of the number of occurrances of that misspelled word, current and recent, is also displayed, and this count is updated on a daily basis. The update is not carried out correctly with some words for reasons that are unknown.

Tabletop (talk) 06:00, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ragnarok

Heya, who's this? -- Skye. Damate

Ragnarok Tabletop (talk) 08:21, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling archaeology

archaeology is stinky hard to spell.

arkeyallohgee, archeaology, archeolegy, archaealogy? Bah!

Note, this greek word means the science of old things. So says User:Damate.

So spell it Oldology and have Oldology either:

• print the correct spelling of archaeology, or else
• #REDIRECT archaeology! Ah!

Tabletop (talk) 08:36, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

White-space changes on St Pancras railway station

1. Thank you for enthusiastically editing Wikipedia and fixing one (1) spelling mistake on St Pancras railway station
2. The same edit introduced a further eight (8) unnecessary white-space changes.
3. These white-space changes made no difference to the rendered view of the document.
   • inserting spaces around the pre-existing heading A new role is planned
   • extra spaces between seven (7) pre-existing sentences.
4. Please stop making white-space adjustments.
5. This concern has been raised on this talk page twice before, at:
   • User_talk:Tabletop#White-space changes on Iobox
   • User_talk:Tabletop#Compagnie Internationale des Wagons-Lits
6. Please limit your edits to those making real changes.
7. Thank you. —Sladen (talk) 15:26, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Cleanup

It would seem like a good idea to tackle some Wikipedia:Cleanup backlog, at the same time as tackling spelling errors and spelling correction. Tabletop (talk) 07:14, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tops !

Hello Tabletop,

Great to see you on top.

I am very grateful for your correction of my spellingmistakes.

I keep making them, and annoying friend and foe with them.

Let's make friends.

P.S. I tried to follow the advice you gave in the above section "Spelling Correction Methodology":

if a misspelled word is encounters, say foriegn

It did not help. Quod erat demonstrandum.

Lunarian (talk) 11:38, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

encounters should be encountered - nate that s and d are adjacent on the keyboard and are easy to mistype. Tabletop (talk) 22:39, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Life is fun, Nate !

Tops to know you.

:D ! Lunarian (talk) 10:10, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Casula Railway Station

Hi Tabletop, Saw that you were the user that started Casula back in 2005. Have you ever been there or used the station? I took some pics today and will put it up and damn it is isolated. It is in the middle of nowhere, i dont know why they built it there. No wonder there is so much trouble there, the vandalism about the machine on the wiki page and my friend lives near there but doesn't use it because of this. I wouldn't want to go there at night. Thanks, take it easy Roadrunnerz45 (talk) 01:37, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is not much on the east side where the river is, but if you climb the hill on the west side there are lots of houses and a shopping centre. Tabletop (talk) 11:34, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of rail trails

Hey Tabletop, see my comments on Talk:List of rail trails#List of pipeline trails. Please continue the discussion there for the benefit of others. Thanks Bleakcomb (talk) 02:41, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Biography

Please note that it is not necessary to add a "Biography" header within a biographical article. Neither is it necessary to add spaces around headers. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:00, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Other people do do this, eg Richard Peck or Thomas Posey.

It can bring the contents menu to the top where it can be seen straight away.

Tabletop (talk) 11:50, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is done by some, but the vast majority of biographical articles do not include it. A biographical article is a biography - if it needs dividing the article should be divided by stages of the person's life. If it's short it doesn't need a ToC at all, since it can all be seen on one page. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:45, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Military railways

Hi, seeing how you are interested in railways, I was wondering if you can assist, or recommend other editors who could contribute to User:Mrg3105/sandbox_for_Military_railways? I don't have sufficient time to expand it much, and someone "helped out" by cropping the structure of the Military railways--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 06:48, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why I rolled back your spelling fix

Uh-oh While your typo fixes are appropriate literally 99.9% of the time, on Vext it wasn't. Just so you know, that is a deliberate misspelling. -Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:35, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reason for deleting 2/3rd of an introduction to an article?

Tabletop, firstly, thank you for correcting the spelling error on the article entitled The Senussi Uprising. However, why did you also remove 2/3rd of the introduction of the article, for no given reason? I have undone that particular chance to the article. EasyPeasy21 (talk) 13:31, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I hit the wrong key by mistake, it wasn't intentional or noticed. Good that you picked this up. Tabletop (talk) 00:03, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of driverless trains‎

Automated - 11187 matches Driverless - 157 matches

Thus driverless is a better keyword to indentify relevant article.

Tabletop (talk) 07:40, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You Section

12 April 2008: Thank you for the spelling corrections to “Marginal utility” and to “Marginalism”. —SlamDiego_←T 02:57, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You have a section for "Thank You"s? Cool. Anyway, thank you for catching my spelling errors. How embarassing! Sociotard (talk) 08:17, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Correcting mistakes on citations

I've noticed this occuring twice now, specifically that the term kms, which is used in the titles of citations for references of racing events. You've twice now "corrected" it to km. I understand that the latter is the correct abbreviation, but when it comes to a reference, I believe title used by the author is paramount, even if they use an alternative abbreviation. Just want to give you a heads up on this mistake so that it doesn't happen in the future. The359 (talk) 03:25, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Point taken. Do check each change one at a time, but the odd exception to the rules cannot be avoided. Tabletop (talk) 23:08, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

You have been written about here [1]. The writer thought that you were User talk:KimDabelsteinPetersen. The author of the piece is here User talk:Lawrence Solomon and he apologized to you here [2]. Just thought you should know about this. Remember (talk) 19:44, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I seem to have been badly mauled by mistake. Expect apology on national post. Tabletop (talk) 23:07, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if you do, then you better bring it to the attention of Solomon 'cause I don't think otherwise you will get one. Cheers. Remember (talk) 01:13, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure how these things work but this page might be of interest to you: Wikimedia Communications committee. Regards --Apis 20:50, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Scarborough RT (TTC)

The Scarborough RT's trains are not fully automatic, which means that drivers are necessary to operate these trains. Thank you. Johnny Au (talk) 15:39, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kim Dabelstein Petersen (Tabletop) caught POV-pushing in Canada's national media

http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_paper/story.html?id=440268&p=1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.222.149.167 (talk) 18:47, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There's a world of difference between 'accused' and 'caught,' subby. Learn the difference. --LeyteWolfer (talk) 16:05, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Haven't been around TOW for very long, huh? And don't tell me that Wikipedia has ever cared about evidence when it comes to its own articles, and how it abuses non-admins. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.222.149.167 (talk) 16:55, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Let me ask you a question: do you believe Tabletop is Kim Dabelstein Petersen? Actually, let me jump to the point. Tabletop was 'accused' of engaging in a POV edit war, however Tabletop was actually 'caught' simply correcting a spelling error. See the difference? In other words, don't believe everything you read on the internet, even if its not Wikipedia. Try and have a good day; do good things. --LeyteWolfer (talk) 23:25, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry that i haven't commented here before, as there has been quite some commotion. I tried to get Solomon to apologize for the misattribution [3] (and apparently got it here [4]).

I assumed that Solomon would post a correction to the article - but that apparently hasn't happened. Instead he has posted another article [5], where he repeats the same thing. I've commented on that article as well - and specifically mentioned this.

Again - sorry for not having informed you earlier - but its been a bit busy ;) --Kim D. Petersen (talk) 22:34, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lawrence Solomon

You have been named on a National Post article. [6]SYSS Mouse (talk) 01:34, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, there's so little discussion of it here, I imagine you're pruning it and this comment will speedily disappear, but assuming article is true, knock it off already. Good going on the spelling work, though. It's wonderful to have first-hand information from foreign editors, but it's not always phrased in the most felicitous manner. 58.37.106.231 (talk) 09:36, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The good thing about things that aren't Wikipedia, you can actually tell the truth about Wikipedia without being threatened with a perma-ban. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.222.149.167 (talk) 16:56, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Biotch just got SLAPPED by Lawrence...

Tabletop is not Kim Dabelstein Petersen

For all of you that are reading the article in the national post [7] and commenting on it here, you should know that there is no evidence that Tabletop is Kim Dabelstein Petersen and that the author of that article was mistaken when reporting the story due to his apparent misunderstanding of the history page. The author of the piece, User talk:Lawrence Solomon, actually apologized to Tabletop (in an odd fashion) here [8] for his mistake when he found out his error. Remember (talk) 17:33, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why was it posted to Coppertwig's userpage talk, and not here, to Tabletop's userpage talk? It's quite possible that Solomon screwed up on the attribution, but as far as Wikipedians suppressing inconvenient knowledge, that's something that we've all seen or encountered. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.222.149.167 (talk • contribs) 19:43, 20 April 2008

For what its worth, User:Tabletop had absolutely nothing to do with what Solomon writes in his article, just as User:Remember says. Which anybody can confirm by perusing the editing history of Naomi Oreskes. And he is most definitively not me. --Kim D. Petersen (talk) 22:37, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Hey there, Thanks for fixing Matas. It seems that I have to learn to spell recieved received :) Cheers, Bobber0001 (talk) 05:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See I before E except after C Tabletop (talk) 06:00, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have fixed Febuary => February so many times that I now know how it is spelled! Tabletop (talk) 00:57, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Userpage

Hey, your userpage seems to have come under a small amount of vandalism. Please let me know if you would like it protected and we can stop it from continuing. Cheers, Tiptoety ^talk 22:10, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New Project

Myself and several other editors have been compiling a list of very active editors who would likely be available to help new editors in the event they have questions or concerns. As the list grew and the table became more detailed, it was determined that the best way to complete the table was to ask each potential candidate to fill in their own information, if they so desire. This list is sorted geographically in order to provide a better estimate as to whether the listed editor is likely to be active.

If you consider yourself a very active Wikipedian who is willing to help newcomers, please either complete your information in the table or add your entry. If you do not want to be on the list, either remove your name or just disregard this message and your entry will be removed within 48 hours. The table can be found at User:Useight/Highly Active, as it has yet to have been moved into the Wikipedia namespace. Thank you for your help. Useight (talk) 17:57, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Video games notable for negative reception

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libral->liberal

Hi Tabletop

You (and others in the past) have edited the roman republican coinage page to change "libral" to "liberal". This is wrong, liberal is an entirely unrelated word. To quote from the page.

The bronze coinage was initially a fiduciary currency rather than a token currency, based on a "libral standard" where the as weighed one Roman pound (libra) with fractions in units of Roman ounces (unciae), with 12 unciae in a libra.

I assume this is being done via bot - is there a way I can flag this so that these spurious changes do not reoccur?

Curtius (talk) 11:58, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Stop Libral being incorrectly corrected

The changes are done manually (and not by bot) one at a time, which gives time for a quick (not always reliable) check. There were a few occurances of liberal mispelled as libral which were correctly corrected.

Maybe there should be:

1. a note like (sic) only in reverse, or
2. a note like (Not a misspelling), or
3. a note like (Real spelling), or
4. an actual article about Libral being the adjective for Libra and not the misspelling of Liberal so that the word Libral is highlighted in blue like a valid link.

I think that I would prefer option 4 as it is the least cluttered.

Tabletop (talk) 23:48, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I liked the list of options, agree with your choice, and have added a little bit to the article you created. With the links present, it is my opinion that this article is now of an appropriate length and that the stub notices can be removed. I am not very expert on procedures for wiki-review, so am leaving that up to you and/or others. I consider your handling of this to have been most appropriate. Thank-you!

Curtius (talk) 00:46, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ferrocarril Central Andino

Talk:Ferrocarril Central Andino#Poor English This article needs a grammatical and syntactical clean up. Parts of it have obviously been written by someone who is less than 100% proficient in English! Right now I don't have the time to do this large job myself, otherwise I would do so. Peter Horn 22:42, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Make that Ferrocarril Central Andino#History Peter Horn 23:32, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: ADC

Mainly, that was because

1. You didn't provide inline citations, and
2. I was too lazy to look it up on Google.

Sorry. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 03:25, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Compensation

I just thought you had gone and created an article on the topic in a railway sense, but i turns out the link was wrong. Compensation (engineering) isn't quite it, and Compensation is just a disambiguation page. Wongm (talk) 02:45, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Khorgos

Hi Tabletop - just a short note to let you know that {{China-geo-stub}} isn't used any more, since it causes confusion between the two Chinas. Please in future could you use either {{PRChina-geo-stub}} or {{Taiwan-geo-stub}}, depending on where the place is? Cheers, Grutness...wha? 01:13, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fine. Tabletop (talk) 03:07, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Leaviest trains

A tag has been placed on Leaviest trains, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from an implausible typo.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you believe that there is a reason to keep the redirect, you can request that administrators wait a while before deleting it. To do this, affix the template {{hangon}} to the page and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this.

I can't really see anyone typing this by mistake, so there's little point keeping this redirect. I have fixed the text in train to suit. EdJogg (talk) 10:23, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please delete this implausible typo! Tabletop (talk) 10:27, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Meekatharra

Really odd to see an external link with 30 year long gone rail line put add hoc in the ref section -

• (1) if its a ref - make it one
• (2) if its an ext link put it in ext links - as it stands it looks really odd
• (3) there are np current public plans about rebuilding any rail system in the area - if you put a comment like that it needs a cite. [1]

and i stand by the 'rebuild' and the idea that the map is a misrepresentation - there has been no government plans to rebuild previous raiways - speculation about new railways is another thing

cheers SatuSuro 06:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A whole project could be made about proposed railway lines that never happened all around the world - I would be very reluctant to endorse adding info on planned lines unless it is very clear that they are planned at the stage of adding to an article. I would not support general comments - even if they are planned.- otherwise the clutter on the pilbara and mid west articles will look like a vast speculation thing - perhaps even a separate article about proposed lines - with very very good referencing - rather than cluttering otherwise good articles. It would appear you are not a west australian - be very careful about your geography SatuSuro 07:07, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Tamanend Middle School

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References

1. http://www.goldenwestresources.com/wiluna_develop.php

Formatting References

Learning to format your references.

Examples:

Here is mine:

1. Cudahy, Brian J., - "The Containership Revolution: Malcom McLean’s 1956 Innovation Goes Global". - TR News. - (c/o National Academy of Sciences). - Number 246. - September-October 2006. - (Adobe Acrobat *.PDF document)

2. Chronological History - Union Pacific Railroad Company

3. Kaminski, Edward S. (1999). - American Car & Foundry Company: A Centennial History, 1899-1999. - Wilton, California: Signature Press. - ISBN 0963379100

4. "A new fleet shapes up. (High-Tech Railroading)". - Railway Age. - (c/o HighBeam Research). - September 1, 1990

Here is yours:

5. http://www.railpage.com.au/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5753&mode=&order=0&thold=0

Which is nicer?

Which is correctly formatted?

See: Wikipedia:Citing sources

Thanks...~ WikiDon (talk) 07:28, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sp

Thanks for your opinion. Users can also click on 'diff' when viewing the history page, and see what was corrected within context. I often find and fix a dozen or more words in an article, and am not about to detail them all in the edit summary. The 'sp' abbreviation is explained in WP:ESL, with the note that "It is not usually necessary to specify the spelling change". These changes are generally not controversial. Doing as you suggest would result in far fewer articles being corrected. Happy editing! Chris the speller (talk) 13:39, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I usually detail one of the spelling corrections at any one time. It becomes tedious to do more. Tabletop (talk) 23:30, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Railway stations in Rwanda

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receive achieve

receive, achieve. achieve, receive. You'd be amazed at how much i struggle with this small spelling difference! Cheers for the clean up. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 14:54, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Rail transport in Brazil

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You will need to quickly add some actual content to this article to prevent it getting deleted. In the future you may find it better to build articles in your sandbox until there are complete enough to be added to the encyclopedia. Rmhermen (talk) 02:49, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Longest trains

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Added GFDL-self Tabletop (talk) 01:06, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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OK Tabletop (talk) 10:20, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Green-P Green-P Green-P Green-P Green-P

How does one access media that is now in Wiki Commons? Tabletop (talk) 10:44, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Simply, Add {{subst:ncd}} on image's page (I have done). Admins will remove it during the week —there is a backlog. Thanks for your work.--OsamaK 11:01, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Made some progress. Tabletop (talk) 02:44, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Level crossing hazard and Traffic lights.

Good, good. You may read more about preferred image formats (JPG, GIF, SVG, PNG) at WP:IUP#Format.--OsamaK 06:32, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I shall now try saving screenshots in Windows Paint as .PNG rather than .JPG. Tabletop

Have created Commons version of Image:Level Crossing Lights Sequence.PNG but it cAnnot be found???? AH! Working now; must have taken wiki a few minutes to make visible. Note slight difference between "1" left and "1" right.

(talk) 07:56, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of August 2008 in rail transport

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Thanks

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		Thanks for correcting the spelling on a stub I have started Freedom of Dublin City. This kind of work a lot of times goes without anybody noticing. keep up the good work and happy editing BigDunc^Talk 22:44, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alonzo Harris

Do you think this article meets the criteria for WP:FICT? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 03:32, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lynton and Barnstaple Railway

Tabletop, I am surprised that you are not aleady aware that Wikipedia talk pages are primarily intended for discussion of details given in the main article, and for improving the quality of the article not for asking specific questions such as the three you posed on the Lynton and Barnstaple Railway talk page, and those you have recently posted to other railway talk pages. If you are looking for such information, may I suggest you search more completely on the Internet, read up on the subject using some of the article references, or find one of the many forums/discussion groups that cover the subject. Kind regards, Lynbarn (talk) 12:46, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chicago Freight Car Leasing Australia

The 1000 figure - can you clarify this, I assume this is locos and wagons combined? Do they have separate figures in the article? Wongm (talk) 05:43, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The T&S magazine arrived today, and only gave the grand total 1145 and not separate figures for locos, wagons (and pax carriages). The figures for locos are generally shown in Motive Power magazine, but you will have to wait a while for this to come. Tabletop (talk) 05:48, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Borung Highway collision

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Like, 'sup

Oh hay look here! Benshi —Preceding undated comment was added at 10:26, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Daylesford Railway

Why unusual? Daylesford was the end of the line for both Ballarat and Woodend. They can't come in from the other end if the line ends at Daylesford.--Sting Buzz Me... 09:38, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

At Cowra and Forbes, the two lines meet end to end (not side by side) and through trains can operate without having to shunt. This is by far the most common arrangement. Tabletop (talk) 09:41, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Gerogery level crossing accident

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Use of flagicons

Flagicons are a good idea, even though this is not a sporty topic, because:

1. Helps teach the flags, especially where flags of different countries are similar.
2. Helps find things, flags are easier to read than words.
3. E. Brittanica probably doesn't use flagicons.
4. Am copying others who thought it is a good idea.

Tabletop (talk) 06:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed them from several articles, some where their use did not follow Wikipedia:Manual of Style (flags), and others in a grey area where they just seemed untidy and redundant. I suggest you discuss the grey areas on the article talk pages. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 08:23, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Twiga Cement

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Adding infobox maps to geo articles

Hi given that you state you are interested in maps if you create articles like Kisaki, Tanzania in future can you please add an infobox and enter the coordinates (and categorize it e.g. Category:Cities, towns and villages in Tanzania, cheers ♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 12:29, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do do this to some extent, but will endeavour to do more. Tabletop (talk) 00:22, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mack Trucks

Regarding your edits to Mack Trucks.

Why all the spaces? It doesn't change to appearance of the article?

Since all of the other bullett points have a "*", why didn't you add one?

Do you know what a proper noun is? Well, if you slept through that class, all proper nouns are capitalizied (the only exceptions are registered trademarks, like eBay, or used in a work of fiction). Like:

winnsboro sc.

It should be:

Winnsboro, S.C.

And, here in Wikipedia we spell out S.C.:

South Carolina

And, shouldn't you question if that addition was factual or not?

Maybe it was a hoax? The real news was:

• Moving the company's administrative headquarters and most support functions from Allentown, PA, to Greensboro, NC, where many of these support functions - like Information Technology, Parts Logistics, Human Resources, Finance, etc. - are already headquartered, in order to improve organizational efficiency.

Please give the money back for your education and take better care with editiing.

207.69.137.25 (talk) 00:33, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Kibangou

Hi TT - the stub template you were looking for is {{RCongo-geo-stub}} (and the one for Congo-Kinshasa is {{DRCongo-geo-stub}}) Grutness...wha? 01:05, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The two Congoes are a real pain when it comes to their exact names! Tabletop (talk) 01:53, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed deletion of Level crossing hazard

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Heads up

See this text about you that I removed from the tabletop disambiguation page. It had been there in some form for nearly four months, and edits to the item take up most of the history of that page. You might want to keep an eye on it - it's on my watchlist now. Graham87 09:38, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've just read the sections above about the National Post article, saying that there was a mistaken reading of page history. The original article is unavailable now, probably for good reason. I'm still shocked that the vandalism stayed on the tabletop disambig page for so long. Graham87 09:52, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Level crossing hazard

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Proposed deletion of Falling Rain Genomics

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Spelling

Thank you for correcting the spelling in some of my articles. I can't believe I spelled Japanese as Japnese, twice, and in two different articles! Scapler (talk) 14:27, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could be worse, I apparently spelled "education" as eduction. Talk about embarrassing! Sherurcij ^(speaker for the dead) 02:06, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

School has even been spelled "Schoool" or "Scool" !! One can reasonably blame one's less than perfect typing! Tabletop (talk) 02:09, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree

Ext links are ext links, refs are refs - have rearranged in Cue and Wiluna - SatuSuro 02:58, 8 September 2008 (UTC) I see no reason to actually link to an article page in this context - the point is the map ext links are very poor quality and close to useless, and could not be considered to be useful maps links - they are nowhere near quality of the Australian geoscience info - and the issue of finding edited pages with ref links in ext links, and ext links in ref links is disconcerting to say the least SatuSuro 03:15, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I will start using ext links as you suggest. Tabletop (talk) 03:17, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - if you dont mind - it is a problem that the maps are close to useless and dont correlate to other features well at all but the textual info is good - the old plus and minus balance issue for the info SatuSuro 03:21, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just checking

And I noticed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tabletop/RSAUWA that you had created - would you like a long and complicated answer to that? If so please let me know - otherwise I will wait till you put it somewhere out of your own personal space - cheers SatuSuro 10:58, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

House Resolution 362

Thanks for spiffing up that article it is greatly appreciated it really needed it --Zaharous (talk) 03:05, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Curious

Is there any particular reason you edit headers from looking like this: "==HEADER==" to looking like this: "== HEADER ==" ? I can't tell that it makes a difference in any way at all in the way the header is displayed, but perhaps I'm missing something ... Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 10:01, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My primary purpose is to fix repeated occurrences of a particular spelling error, and while I am on each such occurrence, it makes sense to change anything else that needs fixing or is less than conforming. BTW, "== Heading ==" is a quite common usage. I do from time to time bow to other's preferences, such as changing "== See Also ==" to "== See also ==" (note the lower case "a"). Tabletop (talk) 10:33, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For "See Also => See also" fix, see Making History: The Calm & The Storm.

I understand capitalisation changes—I was more just curious about why the addition of the spaces when nothing else is changed. I'm not trying to be critical at all—just curious. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 11:15, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The extra space, and also a blank line before a == Heading == make things easier to read, IMHO. Tabletop (talk) 11:18, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK; thanks. That's understandable. You're probably right that it makes it easier to read or edit. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 21:29, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please excuse the intrusion but the mention of spelling and noting a word above - I just had to correct the spelling SatuSuro 11:21, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please note

The redlink you have just created at Sandstone and other locations is innappopriate - are you prepared to have a discussion before I revert? SatuSuro 04:46, 28 September 2008 (UTC) [reply]

I have no idea why or how you think such an item is needed - there is a process - we have a Western Australian noticeboard/project page and I think it needs very careful consideration - I have no idea where you get your information from or where you are - but there are quite considerable issues arising from starting such an article - however I am not going into the issue unless you are prepared to have a discussion - placing red links on obscure long dead railway locations suggests a limited understanding of the process - have a look at what already is there - or perhaps the way they have done so in the Victorian prject - please do not keep adding red links until a conversation has at least ascertained why you think your idea has validity SatuSuro 04:52, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok it may have come over a bit negative - just take care if you are going to try start the article expect very very close scrutiny (specially the sources) as I would argue that such an article is pointless for a whole lot of reasons - there need to be regional breakdowns and other further local context considerations - and it is far more appropriate to try smaller contexts - what you are focusing on here is a group of long closed stations that have little sense or context outside of local histories - so expect close scrutiny on this - cheers.

Also the falling rain maps are close to pointless and give little sense of where they are placed - I have no idea why you persist in putting them in? SatuSuro 04:55, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not create Railway stations in Western Australia without either going to the WA project noticeboard or talking about what your sources are - also towns with railway stations from former lines is really a lost cause unless you have a very good source at hand and know what you are doing - imho SatuSuro 05:27, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As an aside, looking at the Falling Rain map for Wanneroo [9], quite apart from the fact it uses a spelling of Wanneru which was gazetted out of existence in 1953, zooming in 2x by 2, it uses the 1966 urban boundaries and road system for Perth (the coastal one is Mullaloo Beach, the road to it is the old Mullaloo Drive which includes Craigie Drive, Coyne Road and the eastern part of Ocean Reef Road). Scanning southwards, I see roads that don't exist and have never existed. It's more accurate for Rockingham, although contains the pre-1985 road layout for Mandurah. It also has links to "Mullalloo Beach" and the mysterious "Nyannia", a non-locality I remember seeing on old Mapquest maps back in around 2001 (which also had most of the flaws I have described above). If they can't even get basic stuff near a major city correct or up to date I fail to see why we should be using it for any sort of reference purposes - their information sources are clearly not up to scratch for WA. Orderinchaos 04:20, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion

If the urge is so strong - try thinking in terms or regions/branches - otherwise it is too big for practical purposes - Western Australian Government Railways check section 6 - you have Sandstone, Meekathara and Sandstone there - try starting an articles there from the red links - rather than the whole of WA - much more sensible SatuSuro 06:25, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_railway_stations_in_Western_Australia this already exists - also look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Closed_railway_stations_in_Western_Australia - thanks SatuSuro 06:38, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies for coming over so strong on the issue - thank you for your contributions SatuSuro 15:09, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a whole bunch!

		The Minor Barnstar
		Thank you so much for correcting my spelling on pretty much every article I've ever worked on. I promise I'll learn how to spell "received" correctly eventually! <:) Intothewoods29 (talk) 18:22, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

North Terrace, Adelaide

Thanks. (At least I didn't put "Gummnt"!) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:33, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Search function changes

• The wiki search function no longer seems to reflect changes to pages. If it finds some word, and that word is changed then wiki-search stopped finding that word. Now it doesn't. Tabletop (talk) 02:04, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• The altered search function seems to find matches with embedded punctuation, which it did not previously do, such as "k.ms" as well as "kms", both of which (if abbreviations for kilometre) should be altered to "km".

• The wiki search function now does not seem to work at all. Someone (see above) maybe working on it. Tabletop (talk) 04:56, 9 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]
  • This now seems to be working again. Tabletop (talk) 22:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

spelling and whitespaces

Thank you for correcting my spelling mistakes, may I ask why you enter in the same step whitespaces in the headers? Acc. to MOS these spaces are not necessary and the user can decide to employ them? Also, to me -- as an editor -- it seem a bit odd, suddenly to have whitespaces in the header at the end of the article -- after your rightly and good correction. (Please answer here, I'll watch your talk) Sebastian scha. (talk) 09:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fallingrain

Fallingrain has, on multiple occasions been proven wrong, so could you please stop adding the ling to articles? ~one of many editorofthewikis ^(talk/contribs/editor review)~ 02:11, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One has to be careful with namesakes, where several towns in the one country share the same name. Tabletop (talk) 03:43, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2008 Chatsworth train collision‎

Hello and thank you for the new section on 2008 Chatsworth train collision‎. I wanted to ask if you could provide additional information in the reference. You cite Railway Gazette International and it would be helpful if you could fill in as much information as possible in the citation. If you go back an edit the section you will find blank parameters in a citation template that you can fill out. – Zntrip 04:41, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I understand why you added the Waterfall rail accident to the article, but I removed it because the investigation into this accident is still ongoing. We don’t yet know if the crash was caused by human error or a faulty signal. However I would still appreciate it if you could add more information to the citation, specifically the issue and volume number, the title of the article, and the author. – Zntrip 17:18, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The RGI article was its editorial, by Christopher Jackson its editor-in-chief, entitled "Another tragedy on the tracks" in Vol 164 Number 10. It says that "after testing, the signal was determined to be working correctly". Such testing is always carried out, though wrong-side failures are rare. With the signals shown to have been working correctly, it is reasonable to start discussing how the accident might have been prevented.

It is not clear what kind of ATP was installed, if any. An overlap which would mean two signal protection would have made things safer at minimal cost, except loss of headway. Reporting signals to the conductor is hardly fool-proof and is only "better than nothing".

Tabletop (talk) 01:09, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the additional information for the citation. Regarding the accident, I doubt that it was caused by anything other than human error. However, I think it is prudent to refrain from discussing how the accident could have been avoided until the accident report is completed. My concern is partially attributed to this information. – Zntrip 02:34, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chatsworth Signal was Green? - RA This may be a rehash rather than an original source.

US Signals being what they often are, the Starting Signal in question may have well had 2 or 3 lenses not just 1 lamp perhaps showing R/R/R or Y/R/R or G/R/R, or R/Y/R or R/G/R, and the two red lamps may well drown out any green. At a distance of 1600m the three lights perhaps separated by 5 feet, quite likely merge, and also merge with street, house and traffic lights as well making it impossible to say that it was showing "green". Confirmation of such details is conspicuous by its absence. A signal "showing green" is but a metaphor for a signal actually showing say "Red over Green over Red". The general public, lawyers and judges are likely to overlook such details.

Does Zntrip know how many lenses the Starting signal at Chatsworth has?

The Starting signal in question is about a mile (1600m) from Chatsworth station. Was there a second signal at the station which would have shown yellow if the Starting signal were red (assuming no overlaps)? If there were an extra signal in between showing yellow then the signal at Chatsworth station might be showing green, which signal the security guard might have seen. A diagram showing the double line, the single line, the station and 1, 2 or 3 signals is conspicuous by its absence.

The line is straight horizontally from Chatsworth (Amtrak station) to the end of the double line, according to Wikimapia. As this station appears to be on the east side, a passenger train would take the straight leg of the turnout at the end of double track, suggesting normal speed G/R/R rather than medium speed R/G/R.

BTW, your Wikinews item has a very valuable point about reporting false proceeds to the FRA.

Tabletop (talk) 04:00, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I’m a bit confused. I don’t know much about trains, but all I’m saying is that we should wait until the investigation is completed. Do you not agree? – Zntrip 03:01, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

An respected 140yo international journal (RGI) has reported that the signalling seemed to be in working order. Should they be asked to retract, particularly as the official investigation has years to run? Looking at this map Here I saw for a moment some highlighting by someone else of the switch/turnout/points that was supposedly run through, and the crash site. This map is too coarse a scale to show any railway signals other than the shadows of level crossing lights in positions that are expected. So the question about the Starting signal having 1, 2 or 3 lamps is unresolved.

While jumping to conclusions, particularly by non-experts is ill-advised, accumulating data, and asking informed questions is in my books quite reasonable. Since I commute by train most days, I am trying to investigate the question of the visibility of two-lamped signals showing both green and red at the same time.

Tabletop (talk) 04:04, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

re: Chatsworth signals Thanks very much for the information. Is there any more definite information about the signals that existed in this particular case? Should any kind of note be added to the article? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:20, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Another One of this

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		For your incredibly tireless work fixing up spelling mistakes which are a pain to most people but you seem to thrive on dealing what is a minor but important issue. Here's to your hard efforts and being a superb Wikipedian. Your English teacher should be proud! Monster Under Your Bed ^(talk) 09:25, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Spellings in NUST

Great! I see you are good at correcting spellings. Tell me, how do you manage to find such small mistakes? Do you read whole articles just for spelling mistakes?! Or do it the easier way, check the red underlined words in the edit section. Good job anyways! Marsa Lahminal (talk) 09:31, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1) To begin with, I read a lot of articles at random, and if I saw a spelling error, I would stop and fix it. Spelling errors are rare, and one doesn't actually find many this way.

2) Then I started searching for that misspelled word, say "Juntion" for "Junction" and if there were not too many, would go and fix them all.

3) It then made sense to guess a likely error such as "suceed" for "succeed" and do the same as 2).

4) Some words like "from" and "form" are ambiguous as to correctness, but wikisearch prints a line or two of text as context which helps sort them out.

5) The spellchecker in Firefox, which underlines unrecognised words in red, is helpful.

6) Sometimes you read an article which should link to another article read previously, and if this link is missing, then put it in while it is fresh.

7) Take the trouble to put something non-mindless in the "Edit summary".

8) One can argue about how important correct spelling is. See!

9) Can be continued.

Tabletop (talk) 09:54, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Military Balance

Sorry & Thank you that you fix my speling mistake --Jack332 (talk) 10:16, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Back to item 78 (red dots)

Both orderincahos and I have raised issue about the close to uselessness of the adding of falling rain link to western australian articles - is it that you have a very perverse sense of humour (like spelling things wrong on your talk page - despite your edit counts with spelling issues?) Seeing that you go silent on this issue and yet are quite capable of expressing yourself on this page - for instance - re the chatsworth issue above.

The falling rain maps are useless links and not helpful - please reconsider the usage of them (for at least the third time from me) and how unhelpful they are, and think of something better to do. I will not revert them at this point - but when I see them in the future I will challenge you on each one as to the no fit with local conditions SatuSuro 01:23, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I think they are useful for several reasons; firstly one jumps straight to the map, unlike {{coord}} which presents you with a long list of maps, none of which are now labelled to indicate which show railways. (Eg Wikimapia and MSN); secondly they show terrain as well as the rail lines; thirdly they show the map in three scales which helps find things. If you are not interested in these things, then ignore them. Fourthly, fallingrain is also useful for finding co-ordinates for {{coord}} .

It's not useful if the details are wrong, which many of them seem to be. I use Geoscience Australia ([10]) for coord - it's very accurate and actually comes from a reliable source, the Gazetteer of Australia. I'm not entirely sure where Fallingrain get their data, but if you read your own talk page here, you'll see where I critiqued their coverage of Perth, a city with which I am intimately familiar, and concluded much of it was 25-40 years out of date, contained misspellings and factual inaccuracies which seem to stem from early Microsoft/Mapquest products in 2001-02 (those products have since acquired Landsat data and are more accurate than they were) including roads and even towns which did not exist. Orderinchaos 02:22, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For a start it is misleading to say the red dots are defunct railways - that is interesting for you to claim that, as there are red dots on that map that are live active existing railways - why do you do it? SatuSuro 01:40, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well sometimes there are live and defunct lines; if this be so, alter it to "some defunct". Eg Northampton, Western Australia. It is open to you to correct such errors.

"(like spelling things wrong on your talk page)" - well no-one's spelling or typing oe eyesight used to check one's typing is perfect. You can cahgne that "oe" to "or" and "cahgne" to "change". Note that "r" and "e" are adjacent keys, so "oe" is a plausible error for "or".

Tabletop (talk) 02:12, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Falling Rain Genomics

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AfD nomination of Mount Murray railway station, New South Wales

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• It would be helpful if you could add a reference to the article indicating where you found the information. -- Eastmain (talk) 21:13, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

W.F.Payson Corrections

Thank you for catching those errors for William Farquhar Payson.
Jasonasosa (talk) 14:42, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please, have a look on

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:P-chart

212.239.157.3 (talk) 14:57, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Martin Segers

Speedy deletion of December 2008 in rail transport

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Sacagawea

Please be careful when correcting "untill" to "until". Clark was a lousy speller, but everything in the Sacagawea article that quotes him preserves his spelling. In general, you shouldn't correct spelling inside of quotes.—Kww(talk) 02:44, 6 November 2008 (UTC). Noted - one sometimes slips up on this. Tabletop (talk) 02:47, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not a typo

Hi ho, this wasn't fixing a typo, "washinton" is the romaji for Washington, ie ワ(WA)シ(SHI)ン(N)ト(TO)ン(N). Ta. --Closedmouth (talk) 05:35, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See User talk:Closedmouth#If not typo Wahington/Washigton. Tabletop (talk) 06:04, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cascade Tunnel Drawing

In the Cascade Tunnel article, I replaced your JPEG drawing Image:Cascade Tunnel 1 as built.jpg with an SVG version: Image:Cascade Tunnel 1 as built.svg. I drew the SVG as close to your original as I could. If you think any changes should be made to the drawing, let me know. •Life of Riley (talk) 02:14, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The second drawing: (...might be built) seems to show that the western portal is very slightly higher in elevation than the eastern. Is that correct, or should it show a level tunnel? •Life of Riley (talk) 04:23, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Language

Tabletop: You know we work in English here, right? Mac Davis (talk) 04:47, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was able to transfer the Spanish pic into the english page.

I have seem some untranslated pages before.

Is there a stub that kind of requests some translation? like {{incomplete|date=November 2008}}

The page that you are referring to is EBICAB.

Edit to Masters Tournament

Hi TableTop
Your edit to Masters Tournament has been reverted. Most of that information needs to stay in the lead, although I have cleaned it up a little bit. Also I noticed that the edit summary you used didn't correspond to the edit that you actually did. Please make sure your edit summary is correct, as I almost brushed over your edit as a simple typo fixup. Thanks Grovermj 07:53, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot see was the change was supposed to be, so cannot comment. Tabletop (talk) 07:59, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see your point, since you made the edit yourself. My main point was to make sure that you put down the correct edit summary. Grovermj 08:53, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, I actually meant Masters Tournament. Hopefully that spreads some light onto the problem :) Grovermj 08:55, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I normally list the main change(s) such as "Spell recieve => receive; eigth => eighth", but I do no worry about minor changes. Some other people do not go even this far. Tabletop (talk) 09:41, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I know that, but you also made more major edits to the lead of the article that you didn't mention in the edit summary, and as a result I nearly glanced over your edit as a typo correction. Grovermj 10:39, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Miguelito Valdés

Hello, thanks for your corrections. I really apreciate it because english is not my mother tongue and is chance to improve my orthografie. And i´ll forever remember the diference between its and it´s

--Juan Quisqueyano 18:05, 10 July 2009 (UTC)== A word ==

Don't know if you've already seen it but your (Tabletop's) off-wiki ID is on User:Ed Poor/POV pushing. I thought that this was frowned on. If I'm sticking my nose in where not wanted please excuse. (permalink) TheresaWilson (talk) 06:52, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. Didn't think it was you as there's someone of that name (the RL) one on here as well. TheresaWilson (talk) 11:11, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of SEETO

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Afon Clun

Hi Tabletop, this edit did not correct a typo. Km is spelt kms by the source/citation/reference. Please check the reference. This is the second time you've made the same 'correction', which I will revert again. There must be other typos on the article (Im nit thatt god ut speillig). Please feel free to correct any of those. Cheers, Daicaregos (talk) 10:22, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hungary–United States relations

I saw this Hungary–United States relationsarticle! Can you develop this article or write something about it there? --Tamás Kádár (talk) 17:23, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My main contribution has been to tidy the formatting of these relations pages, rather than the content. Tabletop (talk) 02:52, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Romanian/Ukrainian Border

Tabletop, I'd be obliged to hear your comments on the photo which shows the two sets of track inside each other at the Romanian/Ukrainian border. It is in the photo gallery on the main article of bogie exchange. It can hardly be a five foot gauge enclosing a four foot eight and a half inch gauge, because there wouldn't be enough room. One of the tracks is the actual track. What is the other track for? David Tombe (talk) 16:15, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks alot for your interest in this issue. I appreciate that four rails is an ideal way to wheel out old bogies, and to wheel in new ones. But if the gauge difference is very small, how can the two sets of rails physically fit inside each other?

I would have assumed that it could all have been done on one set of rails with an intermediate gauge operating in the station area, providing that trains went slowly in that area. That seems to be the case at Brest in Poland based on the supplied picture on the talk page of bogie exchange.

But the facts are that I have seen the four rails. In fact my recollection of Brest in 1991 was that there were four rails, even if that is not borne out by the modern picture. It is neverthelss borne out by the other picture at the Romanian/Ukrainian border.

Even with that picture, I am finding it difficult to visualize it within the exact dimensions. It does not seem to conform to the idea that a 4' 8.5" could fit inside a 5' 0".

Another major problem is that I distinctly remember in the bogie changing garage at Brest, that the train rolled in on the inner gauge and also rolled out again on the same inner gauge. Likewise at the Chinese border, the train about to go to Mongolia, after bogie changing had already taken place, was sitting on the inner set of tracks. The indications are that the outer set of tracks is for some other purpose. It is probably something like what you have been hinting at. It is probably something to do with alignment, but I can't think what, why or how. And I can't think why the outer set of tracks have to look so identical to the inner set.

This is the kind of problem, that even if I were to fork out big money and travel through those borders again in order to find out, that I'd probably leave again just as mystified, because nobody that knew the answer would be able to speak English. And possibly even worse still, the system might have changed since 1991 and the whole journey would be a complete waste of time, money, and effort. David Tombe (talk) 05:23, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See User talk:David Tombe#Ukraine Bogie Exchange Tabletop (talk) 06:10, 30 December 2008 (UTC) ASDF[reply]

Tabletop, it doesn't tie in with my observation that both the wide bogies and the narrow bogies used the inner set of rails. Neither of them used the outer set of rails. In both cases, (China and Poland), the train was on the inner rails at all stages, both before and after bogie changing. Also, the outer rails would necessarily have to far exceed the gauge difference of 3.5 inches.

So the question still remains, what are the outer set of rails, which you can see in the picture, used for? David Tombe (talk) 02:24, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It has now occurred to me from looking at the picture again, that the wide bogies would sit on one outer rail and one inner rail, and the narrow bogies would sit on the other outer rail and the other inner rail. Hence there would be a difference of 3.5 inches between the gap between each of the two outer pairs of rails. That difference can be clearly seen in the picture.

Hence a wide gauge bogie in China, after bogie changing and about to go into Mongolia, may show up on the inner track as viewed from the platform side. Perhaps that is the answer. David Tombe (talk) 02:31, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tabletop, how about this for a solution at Brest in Poland? The narrow bogies can roll, albeit unstably on the wide gauge track, but not vice-versa. A train comes in from Byelorussia on wide track and wide bogies. It goes to the platform. It lets the passengers off to go to the canteen. It then goes off to the bogie changing garage on wide track. Inside the bogie changing garage are two asymmetric tracks, with the narrow ones leading out the other side of the garage. The observer only ever looks out one side of the train during the whole procedure. He sees the train to be on what appears to be the inner track as it enters the garage on the wide track. The train is jacked up and the wide bogies are rolled out. Narrow bogies are rolled in on the same wide track because they have decided, for whatever reason not to use the other facility on that occasion. In one of the pictures at Brest, you can clearly see a narrow bogie being rolled on a wide track. It is clearly short at one side.

The narrow bogies are attached. The train then leaves the same way that it came in, and follows the wide track back to the platform to pick up the other passengers again. At some point shortly after leaving for Poland, that stretch of wide track narrows down to 4' 8.5".

As for the situation just inside China, on the way to Mongolia, the double assymetrical tracking goes right back to the platform. I only looked at the situation after bogie changing. Perhaps it was on the wide track, but from the platform side, that was viewed as being the inner track.

The lesson is, that in future, one should carefully watch what is happening on both sides of the track. Regarding the Romanian/Ukrainian photo, I would say that I can clearly see the asymmetry. David Tombe (talk) 08:25, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I will have to do a scaled sketch, but not just yet! Tabletop (talk) 10:16, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK. But have a look at that photograph at Brest in Poland. That is definitely a narrow bogie on a wide track. You can clearly see that on one side, the wheel is not sitting fully on the track. Also consider that it would be impossible to fit two 4' 8.5" tracks symmetrically inside two 5' 0" tracks. I'm going to guess the assymetrical solution. David Tombe (talk) 05:51, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New Tasmanian loco arts

As there is complete silence from fellow tasmanian editors at the moment please help with project tags on talk pages on new articles thanks - cheers and happy new year SatuSuro 05:16, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rohden

Rohden

Wow, I wrote teached!! Hehe...was I drunk? :O) Jackiestud (talk) 16:09, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Princesse

Hello

I leave you a note about the cake Rigo Jancsi, It has to be Princesse, belgian spelling, not Princess, otherwise the link will not work to Princess Clara.

Cheers Warrington (talk) 14:55, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Point taken. Tabletop (talk) 01:50, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Spaces in section headers

I noticed you correcting spelling errors in articles, e.g. Roger Donlon and Philippe Vandevelde. So far so good, but you are also changing the section headers by introducing spaces betwen the = and the words. Not only are both methods accepted, so a default replacement from one system to another is disapproved (I can find therelevant sections in Wp:MOS and other editing guidelines), but you seem to be doing it in an automated way, where all standard headers (biography, see also, notes, ...) are changed, and all non-default ones (awards, MoH, whatever) are left alone: this means that after your changes, you have changed a page using a consistent and accepted method to a page using two different (both accepted) methods. This is of course a minor issue (the page looks exactly the same for all readers), but I would prefer if you would disable this change in your automated tool since it gives no improvement for the reader and lacks consistency. Fram (talk) 09:36, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please stop this? You are still changing a consistent, accepted format to a mixed format of section headers for no reason at all (e.g. Czilim class ACV). Fram (talk) 09:13, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tabletop: you have been requested[11] to stop making unnecessary white-space changes before. Please take heed. —Sladen (talk) 09:17, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tabletop, this is my final attempt. If you don't at least reply to the concerns here, I will seek further dispute resolution. This is supposed to be a collaborative project, where discussion is a crucial element to resolve disagreements. You continue to perform utterly useless edits while fixing spelling errors. You could just as easily do your spelling corrections without the additional useless changes, so it's not as if we are asking you to stop your good work. However, adding a space between a * and a name is useless and even negative if the other items on the list don't use the space[12]. Replacing "references" with "reflist" is equally using your own preference for no good reason[13](and the references on this article still don't show...). Adding two spaces before a section header is not conform the Manual of Style, one will do nicely[14]. And you are still adding spaces to section headers[15],[16][17],[18],[19], ... Fram (talk) 08:25, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Since you are making a fuss, I will tone things down. There are still changes that should be done for greater clarity, such as ensuring that there is a blank line before (most) header lines, as this makes it easier to spot headers while in edit mode. Tabletop (talk) 08:59, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You'll notice that that is a change I have not complained about. Thanks for replying. Fram (talk) 09:21, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tabletop: please respond to the point in question, not to a different one! On the first[20] two[21] (of four) Talk page queries about unnecessary white space changes you have avoided responding. In the first example, by simply ignoring it. In the second, by pretending that you have responded, by talking about something unrelated (the same technique that you appear to be using here). —Sladen (talk) 15:27, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And after this, I have now partly reverted 5 of your last 15 edits (the only ones I checked), because you just continue, despite what you said: [22], [23], [24], [25], [26]. What exactly have you "toned down"? Fram (talk) 13:13, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tabletop: as you have clearly edited your User talk: page, please could you take the time to respond to this unnecessary white-space issue. —Sladen (talk) 01:03, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Tabletop. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Tabletop unnecessary white-space changes regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. —Sladen (talk) 01:52, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

While IMO this is a storm in a teacup, I will reduce the points that are complained about and concentrate on point that are less likely to annoy, such as:

• bold headings where unbolded.
• insert blank lines before headings for aid editing.
• amend headings that start with a single "=" rather than a double "==".
• deal with headings the have uneven number of spaces on either side.
• insert space after full stop before new sentance.
  • "This is brown.This is red." => "This is brown. This is red."
• As many spelling errors as can be found in addition to the principle one leading to that page.

Tabletop (talk) 00:38, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like a good list of edits, which can only improve articles. Thank you. Fram (talk) 08:34, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling errors in Image files.

BTW, while you are there, how does one correct the spelling in the name of an Image file, such as one in Tarantula (DC Comics) which is spelled squadon when it should be spelled squadron?

250px|frame|Squadron 66?

Picture files do not seem to have a "move" button!

Tabletop (talk) 23:01, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well spotted!

Greetings Tabletop - what can I say to convince you it was only a slip of a couple of slips of the tongue fingertip? i before e except after c - sigh! Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 10:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

One can of course thank the Wiki search function for spotting many errors. Tabletop (talk) 11:10, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Salford

On wikipedia, we generally do not have "overview" sections, we have leads. Also, your edit summary for this edit was completely misleading, misrepresenting what you had actually done. Please do not do this as it may lead to errors. Nev1 (talk) 02:55, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The same goes for this edit to Abram, Greater Manchester. Nev1 (talk) 03:16, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Overview sections do however exist. They are useful to relocate the Page Menu to the top. They help break up "leads" that are too long. Overviews are called Biography as appropriate.

See Rangers F.C. season 2001–02 where it is misspelled Overveiw.

Tabletop (talk) 04:12, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Eberhard Heder article

Yes your right, I have changed the article its easy to presume some things are commen knowledge Jim Sweeney (talk) 09:04, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cofton Hackett

I have reverted your good faith spelling correction of 'vilege' to village. The paragraph is a direct quotation from a historical document and uses the old English spelling of vilege. It is therefore incorrect to update to modern spelling in this instance. 21$₮ ₡€₦₮UR¥ GR€€₦$₮U₣₣(talk) 13:06, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The other 99 cases were presumably OK. Tabletop (talk) 22:19, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Quite probably, I cannot confirm that as I am not monitoring the other 99 on my watchlist...I see you found the sticky e key on my laptop (an accident with a cup of coffe) 21$₮ ₡€₦₮UR¥ GR€€₦$₮U₣₣(talk) 22:51, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Meagan Good

Please note that her character in You Got Served is named "Beautifull", not "Beautiful". Ward3001 (talk) 02:40, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Noted. Tabletop (talk) 02:43, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Aerial Bundled Conductors

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RfD nomination of Railway stations in Afghanistan

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Carver, Massachusetts

I noticed that you edited the spelling of a user's entry. Days after you did so, the user added more. It turns out that the person was vandalizing the page with the entry and no one noticed. I probably will forget to watch the page but if you could, that would be useful. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 21:14, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shall lookouyt. Tabletop (talk) 01:49, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1987 Atlanta Falcons

In case you were still wondering your question asked here, I have fixed the lead to correctly show that the 1987 season was the Falcons' 22nd season rather than their first. I have found that several of their seasons have them listed as being their inaugural season, but that should all be fixed within the next few minutes. Useight (talk) 05:19, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

IN future I might mark bad text with the string "(badword)" so that I can go back and find them using the wiki search function. Tabletop (talk) 05:30, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of populist parties

I come here to warn you that the List of populist parties articles is being argued for discussion, so I come here to request you to argue for its mantainace and development at here. Lususromulus (talk) 19:36, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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See Double junction. Tabletop (talk) 06:45, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Salamanga

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Speedy deletion of Mutshatsha

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Tanzania stubs

Hello. I noticed you're creating a lot of Tanzania geography articles with coordinates and elevations and the like. You might want to include the Template:Infobox settlement from scratch, which makes the articles look better and provides space for further metadata. Cheers. De728631 (talk) 23:05, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

edit summary?

[27] I think there is something wrong with the script you're using for your edit summaries. - BanyanTree 00:52, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is done manually and not by a script. Usually I just paste in the appropriate string repeatedly. Occasionally, I forget to update this string, and you cannot of course (as far as I know) go back and edit the Edit String. Tabletop (talk) 02:26, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ah. Ok then. - BanyanTree 03:05, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Feburary?

Oops. Thanks! Bowie60 (talk) 15:09, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

wagonways

I think that youR complaint about the article is really that it is weak in dealing with the period of wooden rails. The terms "flangeway" and "edgeway" are modern terms for describing the two differeNt systems. My understanding is that he terms apply to the rails, not the wheels. I have been deferring altering the articles on early railways, pending the appearance of the conference proceedings volume Early Railways 4. This will place in public a number of significant new facts, which will revise current views on a number of matters. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:32, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Aloi

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Chaguaramas Disambig

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Spelling

I like how your edit summaries show the the wrong spelling corrected to the right one. I always feel bad for setting such a bad example with my spelling mistakes and having those mistakes encourage others to make the same mistakes. So I really appreciate this countervailing force for all of our betterment. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:22, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Showing how the correction is made is educative helpful. Tabletop (talk) 00:40, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gouin (electoral district) and all others

Gouin (electoral district) The following table shows which Montreal streets run north south and which ones run east west. These are the Montreal conventional and traditional designations and it also shows those streets that already have their own article. Hence Jean-Talon Street runs east west (or vice versa), not north south. I hope I clarified myself. What is geographical north and Montreal Island north are two different things. See

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Proposed deletion of 2005 Johannesburg bus-train collision

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AfD nomination of 2005 Johannesburg bus-train collision

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Barnstar

		The Copyeditor's Barnstar
		I was allmost pudungi when I realised you only have one Barnstra for all the speling you corect Spongefrog (talk) 12:50, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So here'se one. Spongefrog (talk) 12:50, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks.

Kerang accident talk page

Yes, you have put in referenced material. But the referenced material is interspersed with your own POV commentary. This is contrary to Wikipedea policy, specifically WP:SOAP which includes talk pages. Melburnian (talk) 08:27, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Gandhidam

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Miguelito Valdés

Hello.Thanks for your corrections. English is not my mother tongue and this is a chance to improve my orthografie. And i´ll never forget the difference between its and it´s (it is). So long.--Juan Quisqueyano 18:05, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

See Miguelito Valdés Tabletop (talk) 08:53, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Correcting the spelling of image file names

Hello,

If you correct the spelling of an image file name it breaks the link to the image. I've had to revert several of these over the last few months, some more than once. The most recent example was at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gimingham&oldid=302543068#Mill_Pond_and_Watermill where you changed "engin" to "engine".

Keep up the good work but please, watch out for image file names.

-Arb. (talk) 21:45, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I occassionally fail to notice that it is an image file. Tabletop (talk) 00:41, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

North Epping murders

Hi, seeking support to keep regarding Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/North Epping murders. Do you have an opinion on that? Thanks Ajayvius (talk) 09:44, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Liverpool

Hi, Thanks for correcting the spelling mistake in the Architecture section of the Liverpool article. However, I have reverted you edit, which moved 4 of the 5 lead paragraphs into their own section, because there was no reason to do it. According to WP:Lead, the lead section, which goes before the contents, acts to provide the article's overview and as such there is no need for an overview section lower down. If you have a particular reason or issue with its current form, please feel free to bring the issue to the article talk page. Cheers --Daviessimo (talk) 12:46, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kidzania Jakarta

Hey, thanks for sorting out some of those misspellings of the words in the article. I was typing with excitement, I was unable to concentrate on what I'm typing. ROT9 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:56, 30 July 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Broken Hill Line

You can go to to Template:Broken Hill Line and edit the page.--Grahame (talk) 02:34, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dual gauge of Kars–Tbilisi–Baku railway

Please see my comments at Talk:Kars–Tbilisi–Baku railway#Gauge. Peter Horn User talk 01:49, 18 August 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Two (2) additional comments. Peter Horn User talk 19:30, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I used "copy and paste" to send this entire discussion to Talk:Dual gauge#Dual, tripple and multiple rail gauge. Peter Horn User talk 18:33, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

August 2009

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Triple gauge in Afghanistan

The 156 mm (6.14 in) or 152 mm (6 in) difference between 1520 or 1524 and 1676 is manageable using light rails with each with a base of less than 6 in (150 mm) and special clips. Peter Horn User talk 20:09, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Special clips have been developed in South Australia, where standard gauge and Irish gauge are a close fit. The track cannot use the heaviest rails, which may restrict axleloads.

One might also use tangential turnout rail and its baseplates, which has the same weight, but is stockier than normal rail. Tabletop (talk) 00:47, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Railway wheels are about 75mm wide, and can tolerate a certain degree of overgauge track, say 25mm, at perhaps a reduce speed.

If the pair of light rails making the gauge rails are say 40kg/m, do they have the strength and stiffness of a single rail of say 80kg/m, which would exceed the weight of the opposite rail of say 60kg/m.

Not likely. Peter Horn User talk 01:51, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any problems such as twisting in the hot sun due to having unequal rails on either side.

The linear expansion would be the same. Peter Horn User talk 01:51, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple gauge track would probably require special tamping machines.

Probably and likely. Peter Horn User talk 01:51, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

75 mm wide wheels would appear to be tram wheels at best! In North American practice the overall width is 5+1⁄2 in (139.7 mm) ±1⁄8 in (3.18 mm), this includes the flange which is 1+5⁄32 in (29.37 mm) wide. In addition to that there are special 28 in (711.2 mm) wheels that are 5+23⁄32 in (145.26 mm) ±1⁄8 in (3.18 mm) wide, this includes a flange that is 1+3⁄8 in (34.93 mm) wide. This info, minus the convertions, was taken from my 1970 edition of the CAR and LOMOTIVE CYCLOPEDIA a.k.a. Car and Locomotive Cyclopedia Of American Practice By the Simmons-Boardman Publishing Corporation. It has occurred to me that two heavy bullhead rails or double-headed rail, horizontally bolted together to maintain the correct spacing and mounted on special plates, might be feasible but expensive. The difference between 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in) and 1520 could possibly be accomodated by a double grooved version of the LR55 rail. If the track is overgauged by 25 mm the grooves at all crossings would needed to be 12.5 mm wider than usual, don't overlook the back to back dimension between the wheels!! Incedentally, all the locomotives that were exported from the Montreal Locomotive Works came equiped with standard North American wheels Peter Horn User talk 21:30, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

At Rail profile#External links you'll find Table of North American tee rail (flat bottom) sections. The bottom dimension (BW) of 85 lb/yd (42.16 kg/m), 90 lb/yd (44.64 kg/m) and even some 100 lb/yd (49.61 kg/m) will fit within 6 in (152.4 mm). 85 lb/yd (42.16 kg/m) supports N. Am axle loads albeit at reduced speeds. Peter Horn User talk 22:27, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Btw 80 kg/m (161.27 lb/yd) is rather heavy! Peter Horn User talk 22:35, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. Maybe the twinned rails could be 30 kg/m (60.48 lb/yd) totalling 60 kg/m (120.95 lb/yd). It would be most useful if the old light rails can be reused, as otherwise they are not much use except for fencepost or for scrap.

Another potential problem with the twinned gauge rails is whether there is enough space in between for thermit welding. Tabletop (talk) 00:39, 27 August 2009

(UTC)

Since Thermite welding does not appear to involve the use of welding rods there should be enough room. Peter Horn User talk 01:35, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thermit welding uses molds held in place by steel formwork. The molds are made of a friable sandy material, and can be rubbed into shape to suit different size or worn rails. If the steel formwork does not fit, special formwork would be needed, so long as the molds do not get too thin. It probably would be necessary to unspike the other gauge rail and move it out of the way to make more room. At least this issue has been flagged, so that the whole idea cannot be shot down by unexpected issue. Tabletop (talk) 02:12, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

At Rail profile#External links you'll find ThyssenKrupp handbook, Vignoles rail

& ThyssenKrupp handbook, Light Vignoles rail. Either one should be able to tell you which is the heaviest rail of which the flat bottom dimension does not exceed 130 mm or even 135 mm. Some additional comments above. Peter Horn User talk 01:51, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is very good to see a number of extra alternative solutions (and some data about rail sizes) since one of these is bound to be better than the others. I know about bullhead rail, and bullhead checkrail, but I have to say, I had not thought of using them for the Afghan multi gauge track. Tabletop (talk) 02:29, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And Bullhead rail would work nicely in 1600/1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in) dual gauge in Australia. Peter Horn User talk 02:47, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

All other things being equal, existing off the shelf rail sizes should be used. In Australia, only a few of the European sizes are made (AS40, AS50, AS60, AS68 and BL53) and no bullhead (which predates the BHP Steelworks of about 1915 and was imported anyway). Tabletop (talk) 02:53, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I used "copy and paste" to send this entire discussion to Talk:Dual gauge#Dual, tripple and multiple rail gauge. Peter Horn User talk 18:32, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Aquire

Please note that the change you keep making to Oracle Corporation‎ is incorrect. The company's name is indeed "Aquire" and is not a typo. Thanks. Kuru ^talk 11:48, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It would help to add a "[Sic]". Most of the other "aquires" are indeed "acquire". Tabletop (talk) 23:55, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's not really all that helpful as the word is the proper name of a corporate entity and perfectly correct. I'm not sure adding 'sic' to the entries from Toys 'R' Us, Hertz, or Kraft is going to fly. It may be more helpful for us to spend some time writing an article for the company... :) Kuru ^talk 01:54, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Aquire looks more like a spelling error than say Hertz (which is a unit of measurement and a famous person) does. Tabletop (talk) 03:35, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Luis Durani

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Great Falls (Missouri River)

Please note reference #38 in the article: All misspellings in the original diary kept by Meriwether Lewis have been faithfully recorded in the Wikipedia article. Yes, Lewis misspelled "believe" as "beleive". Yes, Lewis did not capitalize many of his sentences. (See one version online here, at the bottom of page 163.[28]) Thanks. - Tim1965 (talk) 13:29, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the time this isn't a problem. However note #38 is a bit too deeply hidden to notice at a glance. RThe occasional "sic" might be helpful. Tabletop (talk) 13:33, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of List of road accidents 2010-2019

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AfD nomination of List of road accidents 2010-2019

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Bradley State Scenic Viewpoint

I'm curious about this edit to Bradley State Scenic Viewpoint. The edit summary says bad coord, but there are only cosmetic changes to the wikitext. Did you forget something? —EncMstr (talk) 05:50, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Transmountain" vs "Transcontinental" Railroads

If you are interestied in starting a new article called "transmountain" railroads that relate to the items you posted they might be appropriate for such an entry, but the two proposed (not even built) railroads that were deleted simply do not in any way meet the definition as stated in the intro to the Transcontinental Railroad article which reads: "A Transcontinental Railroad is a railroad that crosses a continent from "coast-to-coast." Terminals are at or connected to different oceans. Because Europe is criss-crossed by railways, railroads within Europe are usually not considered transcontinental, the Orient Express perhaps being an exception." Inland mountain railroads, no matter how difficult to build, simply are not "transcontinental" railroads whether or not they are as "significant" (which is a subjective term) as an "ocean to ocean" road. Centpacrr (talk) 05:45, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please read the article/context, before you edit a text

Some time ago you have corrected so-called "typos" in an article on George Joye. I suppose you did so on good faith but without reading the article or the text in its context. If you had read the context, you would have realized that these are sixteenth century titles, which were presented in the original spelling. I have even inserted {{sic}} tags and a note on the discussion page to indicate that these are not typos, but are intended to be spelled so. Why do you correct an article without taking a look at its context or the discussion page? Why do you ignore a {{sic}} tag? You are the sixth person to "correct" these "typos" and it is very frustrating to undo these "corrections". GJ1535 (talk) 11:35, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I do look out for spelling errors in the name of a .JPG file and avoid correcting these. Detecting say 16th century text is considerably more work and mistakes are bound to be made. At least my edit summaries are better than some others. Tabletop (talk) 23:48, 30 November 2009 (UTC). I do react to a [sic] if I see it in time.[reply]

Suggestion. Maybe there should be a token that indicates that the page contains archaeic spellings, similar to:

• * {{cleanup}} * {{birth date and age|1976|3|31}} * {{coord missing|Togo}} * .

• This user page may require cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards. No cleanup reason has been specified. Please help improve this user page if you can.

• (1976-03-31) March 31, 1976 (age 48)

Tabletop (talk) 00:40, 1 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length of talk page

Is it just me, or does this talk page need another archive? There are some discussions dating from December 2007, and it is a bit long, too. 58.171.123.75 (talk) 10:09, 1 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]