User talk:ShokatzWelcome!Welcome to Wikipedia, Shokatz! Thank you for your contributions. I am Marek69 and have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time, so if you have any questions feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. You can also check out Wikipedia:Questions or type {{helpme}} at the bottom of this page. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
Also, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name using four tildes (~~~~); that will automatically produce your username and the date. I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Marek.69 talk 00:30, 30 June 2011 (UTC) Re: Is it just me or?I don't believe Amir071 is the same as 67.248.128.225; the pattern is similar, but not identical. The others are sockpuppets of the IP address; for one, it's clear, and I've blocked it; the other one is highly suspicious, but I'm not blocking it after a single contentious edit. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 07:38, 24 January 2013 (UTC) Re: IP VandalSokac121 and IvanOS think it's User:Oldhouse2012, actually, not User:Nado158. In any case, you should find diffs that demonstrate an exact pattern and report whoever it is at WP:SPI. They seem to have demonstrated a pattern of victimization at this point so it would be best that a completely uninvolved admin intervenes. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 19:14, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
IvanOSToo late — someone reverted you. I blocked Ivan and mass-reverted him because he was deleting text from articles without explanation, which is never a good thing. Thanks for asking for my opinion, but since I have no opinion on whether this text belongs in the article, I won't be able to offer useful input, aside from saying that you need not worry about my concerns on this specific article. Nyttend (talk) 18:39, 17 March 2013 (UTC) Accession of Croatia to the European UnionI'm really not sure what the confusion is here. Have you read the source that you claim to be "syncing" with? It clearly contradicts what you are arguing: "Article 3. of the Accession Treaty states that Member States shall deposit instruments of ratification with the Government of the Italian Republic, therefore, only upon fulfillment of that conditions the Accession Treaty can be considered officially ratified in individual Member State." It lists these states as "parliamentary approval obtained" and NOT "ratification procedure completed." Listing them as "Ratification process completed", as you're attempting to do, is both inaccurate and contradicts the sources. I've reverted your proposed changes several times, and restored the long-term WP:CONSENSUS version per WP:BRD. Please self-revert and discuss on the talk page if you disagree with me and all the the sources. TDL (talk) 21:10, 2 April 2013 (UTC) InfoboxHello i see you deal with Croats Infobox..I would like you to ask is this new picture that i put of Andrija Mohorovicic good or should i put the older one?And also i would like to ask you for hel for the third link i put about population of Croats abroad..Link is of google books so if u could just put sentence like that one of "4.5 million Croatians" not the google books link?Thanks:) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scrosby85 (talk • contribs) 03:01, 17 April 2013 (UTC) Thank you for your help..But could you do the same for the 32 link?In the first sentence about 4.5 million Croats abroad also..Because link is still google books..You changed the link in infobox but not in the sentence..Cheers :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scrosby85 (talk • contribs) 15:58, 17 April 2013 (UTC) Hey did you create new infobox and new article about Croats?If u did i have few suggestions...I think there are too many Croats in infobox..I f you go to Germans you will see that there is almost the same germans as croats in infobox..There are too many of them..I would suggest that Nikola Zrinski,Vlaho Bukovac and one more maybe to be removed from that list..What do you think?Why did even this article changed in the first place?:) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scrosby85 (talk • contribs) 23:48, 29 June 2013 (UTC) I agree with all that you said about the article..The article was very old and needed to be refreshed..We can talk on talk page about which one to remove or not..in my opinion svacic,nikola zrinski and maybe vlaho bukovac or ivan vucetic(made his name in Argentina) should be removed..I respect them but we already have nikola š zrinski so nikola zrinski is not very needed...toni kukoc should maybe be on that list...But as i said there is 27 or 28 Croatians in infobox and 30 Germans in infobox...And Germany is nation of 80 mil people and Croatia of 4.3 :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scrosby85 (talk • contribs) 01:25, 30 June 2013 (UTC) So whodouthink we should remove from that list?Because onTalk page nobody will answer...Nikola Zrinski,Vlaho Bukovac,Ivan Vucetic? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scrosby85 (talk • contribs) 01:24, 1 July 2013 (UTC) Hey can you tell me how canisign my post so that everyone cansee that i am posting?Scrosby85 17:16, 3 July 2013 (UTC)Scrosby85 Thank you..I hope it is right now :)..Can you please help me on the talk page about Croats..DIREKTOR non stop is saying that 16 is right number and that 20 is way too much...Slovenians who are smaller nation than Croats have the same number of people ininfobox and Serbs for example have 30... Scrosby85 17:48, 3 July 2013 (UTC) Hi Shokatz i would like to ask you something about Croats infobox.It is about that number of 1 200 000 Croats in Usa.Do u think that it would be good that we put for example 400 000 declared Croats and 1 200 000 Croatian ancestry like it is said in the link?Or something like that?So that the infobox would look more realistic.Let me know here on your talk page. Scrosby85 (talk) 23:24, 21 February 2014 (UTC) Croatia nightingaleRe List of national birds. You added 3 links to cite Nightingale as the national bird of Croatia. Only one even mentions Nightingale. None of them support the assertion that it is the national bird. The page Symbols of Croatia doesn't mention it either. Chuunen Baka (talk • contribs) 11:57, 23 April 2013 (UTC) discussiondear Shokatz, could you please join the discussion at Talk:Accession of Croatia to the European Union on what constitutes full parliamentary approval, so we can see what consensus is? I advice not to change the page Accession of Croatia to the European Union, as it appears you are edit warring there to get the change in... L.tak (talk) 13:08, 27 May 2013 (UTC) A Barnstar For You
CoA articlesHi! I've recently noticed WT:CRO discussion about quality assessment of the Coat of arms of Dubrovnik / CoA of Dalmatia articles and left a few comments there. I also thought to leave you this note and point out that both of the articles are quite good regardless of their rating. Formally, no article may be higher than C-class if a single claim is left unreferenced, but both of those lack only a few so that should not be hard to remedy. Also, there is a structure-related problem in both of the articles - you'd be better off with a "Description" section at the very beginning of the prose and that would cover the issue. Regarding comprehensiveness, both of the articles need some info on modern use (or lack thereof, whichever applies) in official, semi-official or unofficial contexts. I noted some examples as a guide in the WT:CRO discussions on that. Also some dates when Dubrovnik arms became official in their current form and in their original form corresponding to the modern design, as well as when the Dalmatia arms were officially disused (presumably disestablishment of the Kingdom of Dalmatia). Regarding gallery, the Dalmatia arms also appear on several forms of Austria-Hungary and Kingdom of Hungary arms as an element thereof. Finally, please note that the lead is meant as a summary of the article, not an introduction (see WP:LEAD) and all info contained in the lead and the infobox must be present in the prose (and referenced in the prose rather than in the lead/infobox). Small size of the Dalmatia arms article is no problem for a higher assessment, it is just important to list (or provide an illustration of) its present use(s) to make it complete. Hope this is helpful, I don't mean to put down articles/editors, rather I'd like to offer advice on what would be needed for the articles to warrant B-class (or GA-class). Cheers--Tomobe03 (talk) 18:54, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Removal of refimprove tagHi! I noticed you removed {{refimprove}} tag from Dalmatia article. Even though you have provided additional references missing from the article. Please refrain from such actions in the future because this may be viewed as disruptive editing - the tag indicates to editors that additional citations are needed. Indeed, the article has numerous claims with no citations and the tag is justified. There are no inline tags precisely because there is the template (or general, as you put it in the edit summary) tag. Please restore the tag, or provide citations to all claims missing references. Regards.--Tomobe03 (talk) 13:42, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Restoring cited text removed because the source was misrepresentedI cannot understand why anyone would insist on keeping text in an article when the source in no way backs up the text. There is nothing in [1] about these obsolete racial classifications, that is purely original research by the editor who added it. I made that clear in my edit summaries but you still chose to restore it against our policies and guidelines. I've taken the issue to WP:RSN and will be interested to see your response. Hopefully it will be to remove the text. Did you even read the source? Dougweller (talk) 10:50, 10 October 2013 (UTC) King of Croatia infoboxYou have no valid arguments, only reverted me without any explanation. However, we should discuss this problem involving more editors, where everybody could tell his/her opinion. Maybe here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Croatia. --Norden1990 (talk) 01:15, 13 October 2013 (UTC) Re: Article mergerIt seems I never answered your question - I'm sorry, I must have missed it somehow. There's a Talk discussion there where two other people also said the article is off base. A merge is the entirely uncontroversial course of action. At the same time, this article title can hardly be considered a valid search term, so a redirect is largely useless - you might as well nominate the article for deletion, while suggesting a prior merge of whatever little content there is. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 17:55, 13 October 2013 (UTC) UggghOk Shokatz. Revert me once more if you want and lets stop. It was fun, but we are both sure to get blocked if we don't try and solve this like civilized men... In fact, we'll probably get blocked anyway :), but lets try and work something out in what time we have. For starters, can you please explain to me, slowly and carefully, just how in the world you think I've violated WP:V?? I mean, I've been around on this project for 7 years and 50,000 edits, and I know I did not, but still? -- Director (talk) 09:42, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
Ok. To be clear, Shokatz, I'm only letting up because the current RM might make this discussion void. -- Director (talk) 12:49, 19 January 2014 (UTC) Gundulic ArticlesWhen the gallery was removed, I initially reverted it, then thought better. While inserting the two images from the 'late' gallery that pertained to the contents of the article, I discovered that the image for Ivan Gundulic had no such identification, so I removed it, as its only label was "Gondola." If someone can show that it IS Ivan Gundulic, please do so. And I included the images of the coats of arms, titled as they appear in the sandbox. You may not like it, but it seems to me at least as Wikipedian as any other edits on the House of Gundulic/Gondola page. Tapered (talk) 09:26, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
You know what? This article isn't worth much trouble. I'm going to leave it alone, and reread it occasionally to reinforce priorities, and to observe the limitations of Wikipedia's model (all human endeavor has limitations), and to see how aggression, organization, and intellectual dishonesty can often carry the day in human affairs. Regards Tapered (talk) 09:22, 16 February 2014 (UTC) Disruptive attitude?Dear Shokatz, if after analysis of secondary sources the correct name is Gundulic this is fine for me. I do not want things my way, but at least we should follow the right methodology (is a wholesale google research a good method??). I have found enough English sources unsing Gondola so I have the reasonable doubt (to say the less) that a discussion should be made. What I see is that my contribution in the talk page has been removed by DIREKTOR because considered not useful. I hope this is not a standard approach and would like to know if analysing secondary sources instead that relying on a Google research is really disruptive attitude as DIREKTOR claims. --Silvio1973 (talk) 13:09, 19 February 2014 (UTC) Reverted editDear Shokatz, I have no problem to report in the article Croatia that the Government has started a bill four days ago concerning same sex-unions. But, if it is the case, please edit the article in such a way and source accordingly. The current edit does not mean anything. It just reports the intention of the Croatian Covernment to do something. --Silvio1973 (talk) 08:43, 3 March 2014 (UTC) RMHi, It has to be closed by an admin. Give it time. Cheers In ictu oculi (talk) 06:06, 6 March 2014 (UTC) You have been reported to WP:SPI, please see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Shokatz. Salvio Let's talk about it! 13:50, 9 March 2014 (UTC) Europa Universalis vandalismWell caught. I've a filter that stops a lot of it. Must see if it needs enhancement. Dougweller (talk) 08:18, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
PuppetHello. I would like to inform you that the user Special:Contributions/72.66.12.17 is a puppet who came from Serbian Wikipedia since he got blocked indefinitely over there. See here. He is a puppet of another user that got banned for disruptive behavior. See here. He now turned to English Wikipedia and shows the same attitude that already got him blocked 2 times. Detoner (talk) 17:25, 28 June 2015 (UTC) Hi, ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!Hello, Shokatz. Voting in the 2016 Arbitration Committee elections is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC) MovingPlease read the relevant literature published in English before moving plages. Please compare this list about the Újlaki family [3] with the list about the House of Ilok (actually about houses in Ilok): [4]. You should also verify that the form "Lawrence of Ilok" is more commone in English literature than the form "Lawrance Újlaki". Borsoka (talk) 13:16, 21 May 2017 (UTC) Ethnic naming disputes are covered by discretionary sanctionsThis message contains important information about an administrative situation on Wikipedia. It does not imply any misconduct regarding your own contributions to date.
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