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Hi, Jjjjjjdddddd.
I've noticed that you are an AfC reviewer but don't yet have the New Page Reviewer flag. Can you please head over to PERM and request it?
As part of a larger plan to increase cooperation between New Page Patrol and Articles for creation, we are trying to get as many of the active AfC reviewers as possible under the NPR user flag (per this discussion). Unlike the AfC request list, the NPR flag carries no obligation to review new articles, so I'm not asking you to help out at New Page Patrol if you don't want to, just to request the flag.
Of course, if it is something you would be interested in, you can have a look at the NPP tutorial. Please mention that you are an active AfC reviewer in your application.
Cheers and thanks for helping out at AfC, — Insertcleverphrasehere(or here)06:26, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
Actually, I'm glad you asked. I would not at all mind becoming a new page reviewer, and tried for the permission around late January. They told me to come back in a month, and apply again, so this would be a good time to get the right. I would be happy to help the NPP backlog! Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 07:01, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
Hello Jjjjjjdddddd. Your account has been added to the "New page reviewers" user group, allowing you to review new pages and mark them as patrolled, tag them for maintenance issues, or in some cases, tag them for deletion. The list of articles awaiting review is located at the New Pages Feed. New page reviewing is a vital function for policing the quality of the encylopedia; if you have not already done so, you must read the new tutorial at New Pages Review, the linked guides and essays, and fully understand the various deletion criteria. If you need more help or wish to discuss the process, please join or start a thread at page reviewer talk.
URGENT: Please consider helping get the huge backlog down to a manageable number of pages as soon as possible.
You will frequently be asked by users to explain why their page is being deleted - be formal and polite in your approach to them too, even if they are not.
Don't review a page if you are not sure what to do. Just leave it for another reviewer.
Remember that quality is quintessential to good patrolling. Take your time to patrol each article, there is no rush. Use the message feature and offer basic advice.
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Dora the Explorer
Can you explain why my draft is redundant? The purpose of it is to build the film article so that when production begins myself or other editors don’t need to scramble for info to build the article then. That way we can make sure all info included is added in as it’s announced. You wanting to merge it nullifies having drafts if they’re just gonna be merged into main space. Rusted AutoParts04:11, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
The films article is going to look different than a brief stub section on the general Dora article. Not all information about the film will be put there as it’ll be on the films article. That’s why I’m building it in draft. Rusted AutoParts04:17, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
Wikipedia is one of the most wide-reaching repositories of shared knowledge, yet a 2011 survey found that less than 10% of its contributors identify as female, suggesting an alarming absence of voices. What and how information is shared is skewed by this gender disparity. To help change this, the Jacob Lawrence Gallery is organizing a quarterly series of Edit-a-thons to improve Wikipedia's coverage of womxn artists of color.
This Saturday afternoon's gathering will focus on creating, editing, updating, and expanding pages for womxn artists from Latin America and the Caribbean. The Edit-a-thon will feature a talk by Dan Paz, Lecturer in the UW School of Art + Art History + Design, an artist, and an educator who explores the labor of digital imaging production as a collaborative site where the intersections of the image-idea and lived experience are produced and contested. Through videos, photography, and sculptural projects that query the ability of documentary processes to be manipulated—to be multiplied and replicated, stopped and started, rewound and advanced—Dan works within the impossibilities of absolute replication to question the very ability of the image to truly represent.
Everyone is welcome. Access to UW WiFi will be provided for non-UW affiliated participants. All you need to bring is your laptop, power cord, and ideas. No previous Wikipedia experience required! Childcare, snacks from local businesses, and editing tutorials will be provided. Please check the Facebook event page for updates.
When: Saturday, May 12th, 1-5pm Where: Jacob Lawrence Gallery, Art Building #132, 1915 NE Chelan Ln, Seattle, Washington 98105 Who: Everyone is welcome. What to bring: A laptop and power cord. Access to UW WiFi will be provided for non-UW affliated participants.
Because, although it is on the same topic as the first article, it does not constitute I did not know it was a repost of something else under G4, according to context from the first AfD. I did not know that this user was blocked/banned. Further, it was already under the AfD process, so patrolling would be moot. Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 18:23, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
The user I'm warring with on I Still Like Bologna is a long-term wiki vandal sock of User:Jack Gaines. He comes around at least once a week to target me specifically, along with articles pertaining to Alan Jackson. Literally every edit from the account currently active is vandalism. Please help me revert his edits. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?)05:38, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Already been reported. It's 2 AM Eastern so most of the admins are probably asleep. Go poke a few people with mops and see if they can stop him. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?)05:50, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
I am not asking for a re-review yet, but I do want to try and fix this. This is my first article so I am still learning what's what here and I need help.
I thought Wikipedia did include book reviews, so that's what I thought I was doing. Is a book review not appropriate for Wikipedia? (If not, I will just delete--and you can ignore the rest of this!)
How do I make it less essay like? This is patterned after the book reviews I found. Is there another pattern for a book review that I should follow?
It may seem promotional but I can't see what can be done about that because there simply are no negative peer-reviews of this book. It is universally admired. It is a significant book in feminist and early Christianity studies; it was paradigm altering at the time it was written, so I was surprised Wikipedia didn't have anything on it when I went looking. If I have to reference what the sources say and the sources all love it--what should I do? Jenhawk777 (talk) 05:31, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Well, first, I think we've established that you're not just some random spammer (there are SO. MANY. SPAMMERS. HERE. SERIOUSLY...), so the possibly-promotional language issue can be ignored, or at least easily reworded. As for the book-review aspect, we, strictly speaking, aren't for reviews, but your page could be pretty easily converted to an article. Really, it's not a bad submission, but it needs to be changed a bit. I would be happy to help out on your page. It seems notable enough, so that shouldn't be a problem. In short, it just needs to be reformatted, and maybe reworded a bit, to be more article-like. Thanks, Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 05:45, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Oh that is great! That is awesome, and really nice of you to be willing to help, so thank you! Not a spammer! Serious about trying to do good work for Wikipedia! If you can give me a direction to go, or a page to read, both--or anything really to give me a clue how to make those changes I would be genuinely grateful. Thanx again. Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:26, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
I have moved discussion to the talk page there--that's what I'm supposed to do--right? Reformatted and reworded... ?Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:13, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi,
please you declined ma request to make this draft an article.
the subject i'm writing the article about doesn't have any accomplishments i can refer to just a couple of reviews of his music.
he is an upcoming artiste so can you please approve my article.
if there's anything i need to add kindly tel me because this is the 2nd time am getting declined
What do you mean there's "no content here," it's literally a list. Since when do list articles need "content?" I spent days compiling sources, copying down the groups, and trying to find where all of them came from. There are hundreds of groups listed from most of the states, DC, and four other countries. What does it mean? How do I fix it? What do you recommend?
No, no, I get that it's a list. But, at the time when I declined, there wasn't anything in the list. At least, not that I could see. Since you've added all those groups, it will likely be suitable for mainspace. Best, Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 23:01, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
Kindness Is the New Rock and Roll
Sorry, I didn't know how to respond to your comment on "Kindness Is the New Rock and Roll", so I'll leave it here, if that's alright?
I thought that the page I created was relevant because it is the new album in "Peace"'s discography and therefore, I thought, would be a notable page to be created (as it has not been done as of yet) and not the WP:ROUTINE that you commented.
Well, it's like this. Peace *is* a notable band, but there aren't any sources on your page to prove that particular album's notability. The album probably is notable, but we haven't added any sources that prove that fact. In the regular wiki pages, that page is a redirect to Peace's page. Still, I could probably add some more sources to your particular page to get it into article-space. Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 00:06, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Ah, I see now. Thank-you for explaining, sorry, I'm new to this!
If you had time to add some more sources, I'd really appreciate it, as they're one of my favourite bands!
Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
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WP:ACREQ has been implemented. The flow at the feed has dropped back to the levels during the trial. However, the backlog is on the rise again so please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day; a backlog approaching 5,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.
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Thank you for your attempted improvement of Pete's Dragon (short story) by reviving the deleted content. However, I note that Geraldo Perez reverted the changes, and- with respect- I agree with his decision for two reasons.
Firstly, the story is not really notable in its own right, only in the context of the film it formed the basis of. (Put another way, if the original film had never been made, the story would not be notable). Similar to our guidelines for people, it therefore belongs in the context of the film article.
Secondly, the created article was a stub with almost negligible content and (more importantly) is likely to remain so- there's really not enough that *could* be said about it in its own right to warrant a separate article. The information that *was* there is better served in the context of the film article rather than being isolated in a pointlessly bitty stub.
(On top of this is the issue that the revived article didn't even cite any sources, so the information- which was contradicted by *cited* content in the film article- was of questionable value).
I notice that you're an inclusionist, but this really has less to do with inclusionism or deletionism and more to do with whether the information in question should be part of a separate article. In cases like this, a separate article isn't warranted, which is why it was deleted.
Yes, sorry about that. I'm assuming I inadvertently grouped your edits together with the one from the preceding (anonymous editor) when I was checking the history. Ubcule (talk) 14:22, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
Hello Jjjjjjdddddd. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Urban Studies Foundation, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: if the journal is notable, the charity is at least significant enough to avoid speedy deletion. Consider merging per WP:ATD-M instead. Thank you. SoWhy11:05, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi! I am still just waiting of Early Christian women, but I am actually here to ask about something else. I can see you are incredibly bust and please feel free to say you simply don't have time, but I have been working on Biblical criticism and think it's a good article, but since I don't really know what qualifies an article as a GA, I wanted to ask if you would be willing to look it over and assess it--maybe save me some more embarrassment... I perfectly understand if you can't, but I was really impressed with your skill and your kindness so I just thought I'd ask! Thank you either way! Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:00, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
Actually, I am not that busy and would be happy to help! I don't really work with GA's that much so I wouldn't know off the top of my head, though. Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 15:37, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
ISTJ
Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did to ISTJ. Wikipedia is not a collection of links, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include, but are not limited to, links to personal websites, links to websites with which you are affiliated (whether as a link in article text, or a citation in an article), and links that attract visitors to a website or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam guideline for further explanations. Because Wikipedia uses the nofollow attribute value, its external links are disregarded by most search engines. If you feel the link should be added to the page, please discuss it on the associated talk page rather than re-adding it. Thank you. --Ronz (talk) 16:00, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
My apologies if that template could be interpreted to read that way. I chose to use the template because you are relatively inexperienced (unless you have multiple accounts) and wanted to avoid any misunderstandings.
The poor (self-published, self-serving) sources and external links have always been a problem in the Myers-Briggs-related articles. I'll try to get around to cleaning it all up if someone doesn't beat me to it. --Ronz (talk) 17:34, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Hello ScribeYearling, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!
We can see the light at the end of the tunnel: there are currently 2900 unreviewed articles, and 4000 unreviewed redirects.
Announcing the Backlog Elimination Drive!
As a final push, we have decided to run a backlog elimination drive from the 20th to the 30th of June.
Reviewers who review at least 50 articles or redirects will receive a Special Edition NPP Barnstar: . Those who review 100, 250, 500, or 1000 pages will also receive tiered awards: , , , .
Please do not be hasty, take your time and fully review each page. It is extremely important that we focus on quality reviewing.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2017 Southern Europe heat wave until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
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NPR Newsletter No.12 30 July 2018
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Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months. (Purge)
Hello ScribeYearling, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!
June backlog drive
Overall the June backlog drive was a success, reducing the last 3,000 or so to below 500. However, as expected, 90% of the patrolling was done by less than 10% of reviewers. Since the drive closed, the backlog has begun to rise sharply again and is back up to nearly 1,400 already. Please help reduce this total and keep it from raising further by reviewing some articles each day.
New technology, new rules
New features are shortly going to be added to the Special:NewPagesFeed which include a list of drafts for review, OTRS flags for COPYVIO, and more granular filter preferences. More details can be found at this page.
Probationary permissions: Now that PERM has been configured to allow expiry dates to all minor user rights, new NPR flag holders may sometimes be limited in the first instance to 6 months during which their work will be assessed for both quality and quantity of their reviews. This will allow admins to accord the right in borderline cases rather than make a flat out rejection.
Current reviewers who have had the flag for longer than 6 months but have not used the permissions since they were granted will have the flag removed, but may still request to have it granted again in the future, subject to the same probationary period, if they wish to become an active reviewer.
Editathons
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The Signpost
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Hello, Jjjjjjdddddd. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Rainier Avenue, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Draft space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for article space.
If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion under CSD G13. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it. You may request userfication of the content if it meets requirements.
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In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.
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Generally, it's considered bad manners to move another user's userspace page to the main namespace without asking for permission. The draft you moved was far from complete (with most of its history section still being researched) and should not have been touched. SounderBruce21:27, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Hello ScribeYearling, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!
The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.
Project news
The New Page Feed now has a new "Articles for Creation" option which will show drafts instead of articles in the feed, this shouldn't impact NPP activities and is part of the WMF's AfC Improvement Project.
As part of this project, the feed will have some larger updates to functionality next month. Specifically, ORES predictions will be built in, which will automatically flag articles for potential issues such as vandalism or spam. Copyright violation detection will also be added to the new page feed. See the projects's talk page for more info.
Some unsuitable new articles can be best reviewed by moving them to the draft space, but reviewers need to do this carefully and sparingly. It is most useful for topics that look like they might have promise, but where the article as written would be unlikely to survive AfD. If the article can be easily fixed, or if the only issue is a lack of sourcing that is easily accessible, tagging or adding sources yourself is preferable. If sources do not appear to be available and the topic does not appear to be notable, tagging for deletion is preferable (PROD/AfD/CSD as appropriate). See additional guidance at WP:DRAFTIFY.
If the user moves the draft back to mainspace, or recreates it in mainspace, please do not re-draftify the article (although swapping it to maintain the page history may be advisable in the case of copy-paste moves). AfC is optional except for editors with a clear conflict of interest.
Articles that have been created in contravention of our paid-editing-requirements or written from a blatant NPOV perspective, or by authors with a clear COI might also be draftified at discretion.
The best tool for draftification is User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js(info). Kindly adapt the text in the dialogue-pop-up as necessary (the default can also be changed like this). Note that if you do not have the Page Mover userright, the redirect from main will be automatically tagged as CSD R2, but in some cases it might be better to make this a redirect to a different page instead.
The Page Mover userright can be useful for New Page Reviewers; occasionally page swapping is needed during NPR activities, and it helps avoid excessive R2 nominations which must be processed by admins. Note that the Page Mover userright has higher requirements than the NPR userright, and is generally given to users active at Requested Moves. Only reviewers who are very experienced and are also very active reviewers are likely to be granted it solely for NPP activities.
List of other useful scripts for New Page Reviewing
Twinkle provides a lot of the same functionality as the page curation tools, and some reviewers prefer to use the Twinkle tools for some/all tasks. It can be activated simply in the gadgets section of 'preferences'. There are also a lot of options available at the Twinkle preferences panel after you install the gadget.
In terms of other gadgets for NPR, HotCat is worth turning on. It allows you to easily add, remove, and change categories on a page, with name suggestions.
MoreMenu also adds a bunch of very useful links for diagnosing and fixing page issues.
User:Equazcion/ScriptInstaller.js(info): Installing scripts doesn't have to be complicated. Go to your common.js and copy importScript( 'User:Equazcion/ScriptInstaller.js' ); into an empty line, now you can install all other scripts with the click of a button from the script page! (Note you need to be at the ".js" page for the script for the install button to appear, not the information page)
User:TheJosh/Scripts/NewPagePatrol.js(info): Creates a scrolling new pages list at the left side of the page. You can change the number of pages shown by adding the following to the next line on your common.js page (immediately after the line importing this script): npp_num_pages=20; (Recommended 20, but you can use any number from 1 to 50).
User:Primefac/revdel.js(info): Is requesting revdel complicated and time consuming? This script helps simplify the process. Just have the Copyvio source URL and go to the history page and collect your diff IDs and you can drop them into the script Popups and it will create a revdel request for you.
User:Evad37/rater.js(info): A fantastic tool for adding WikiProject templates to article talk pages. If you add: rater_autostartNamespaces = 0; to the next line on your common.js, the prompt will pop up automatically if a page has no Wikiproject templates on the talk page (note: this can be a bit annoying if you review redirects or dab pages commonly).
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.
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Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.
Hello ScribeYearling, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!
Backlog
As of 21 October 2018[update], there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.
Community Wishlist Proposal
There is currently an ongoing discussion regarding the drafting of a Community Wishlist Proposal for the purpose of requesting bug fixes and missing/useful features to be added to the New Page Feed and Curation Toolbar.
Please join the conversation as we only have until 29 October to draft this proposal!
Project updates
ORES predictions are now built-in to the feed. These automatically predict the class of an article as well as whether it may be spam, vandalism, or an attack page, and can be filtered by these criteria now allowing reviewers to better target articles that they prefer to review.
There are now tools being tested to automatically detect copyright violations in the feed. This detector may not be accurate all the time, though, so it shouldn't be relied on 100% and will only start working on new revisions to pages, not older pages in the backlog.
Graphs are unavailable due to technical issues. Updates on reimplementing the Graph extension, which will be known as the Chart extension, can be found on Phabricator and on MediaWiki.org.
Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.
Hello ScribeYearling,
Community Wishlist Survey – NPP needs you – Vote NOW
Community Wishlist Voting takes place 16 to 30 November for the Page Curation and New Pages Feed improvements, and other software requests. The NPP community is hoping for a good turnout in support of the requests to Santa for the tools we need. This is very important as we have been asking the Foundation for these upgrades for 4 years.
If this proposal does not make it into the top ten, it is likely that the tools will be given no support at all for the foreseeable future. So please put in a vote today.
We are counting on significant support not only from our own ranks, but from everyone who is concerned with maintaining a Wikipedia that is free of vandalism, promotion, flagrant financial exploitation and other pollution.
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NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018
Hello ScribeYearling,
Reviewer of the Year
This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to Onel5969. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.
Thanks are also extended for their work to JTtheOG (15,059 reviews), Boleyn (12,760reviews), Cwmhiraeth (9,001reviews), Semmendinger (8,440reviews), PRehse (8,092reviews), Arthistorian1977 (5,306reviews), Abishe (4,153 reviews), Barkeep49 (4,016reviews), and Elmidae (3,615reviews). Cwmhiraeth, Semmendinger, Barkeep49, and Elmidae have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only sevenmonths, while Boleyn, with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Wikipedia in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.
The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.
Really good news - NPR wins the Community Wishlist Survey 2019
At #1 position, the Community Wishlist poll closed on 3December with a resounding success for NPP, reminding the WMF and the volunteer communities just how critical NPP is to maintaining a clean encyclopedia and the need for improved tools to do it. A big 'thank you' to everyone who supported the NPP proposals. See the results.
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Wikipedia Day 2019 — curating images from Asahel Curtis and older Seattle photos
First Hill, Seattle, c. 1903, showing intersection of Columbia St and Summit Ave, Seattle, a panorama built from three Asahel Curtis photographs.
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Tuesday evening, January 15, 2019, 6-9pm at Wayward Coffeehouse, 6417 Roosevelt Way NE #104, Seattle WA 98115
Wikipedia Day celebrates the anniversary of the founding of Wikipedia. This year in Seattle, Cascadia Wikimedians' celebration of Wikipedia Day will focus on a different closely related project: Wikimedia Commons, which (among other things) functions as the media repository for Wikipedia. When you see a photo or map in Wikipedia, or hear an audio clip, etc., it usually is hosted on Wikimedia Commons and "transcluded" into Wikipedia.
Wikimedia Commons is a mix of users' own works and curated third-party content, either public domain or free-licensed. Our event is a hands-on workshop in curating third-party content, mostly early 20th-century photos of Seattle and other West Coast locations.
Currently, Wikimedia Commons has two intersecting sets of older photos, one from the Asahel Curtis Photo Company and the other a more general set of Seattle images. At this meetup, we will celebrate the 18th anniversary of Wikipedia by further curating these images by the creation and addition of categories, adding ImageNotes where useful, linking other versions of the same photo, enhancing the descriptions, and identifying and correcting errors. User:Jmabel has already categorized over 1000 images and corrected several hundred wrong dates, misidentified buildings, and etc., but there is much more to be done.
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Question on Ramon Rivas Draft
Thank you for your earlier input on January 4th. I really want to make a good article. I have one question concerning references. The subject of my page has put out his own album, but I cannot get a good source aside from ones like spotify and other such sales sites. I think it is important enough to include, but I am at a loss as to where else to look so I can properly source the reference. Any suggestion would definitely be welcome. Thanks in advance. (talk) 18:09, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
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Hi. I've seen you remove a few of my speedy deletion tags on redirects. While I agree that they redirects are reasonable, I tagged them per WP:BMB. I hope you'll take that into account. --DannyS712 (talk) 05:24, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
Heya,
Not entirely sure where to respond so I have posted same response in various places.
You said:
Lacks reliable sources, unfocused and hard to understand, reads almost like a news story. PrussianOwl (talk) 06:03, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
Regarding:
Sources: There is a an External Link at the bottom to the judgment as posted online by the Chinese Court. If a court judgment is insufficient then I don't know what is... BTW google translate does a sufficient job on the Chinese. Also, the sixth tone, whose article is linekd, is a news publication which seems to me to be of a good journalistic standard. Also, caixin, which is like the chinese equivalent of the financial times, is linked.
Unfocused: This is relating to an actual case and it has 2 main points. 1) Relates to the injunction and the injunction being lifted. 2) It was considered important in China because of the particular brands involved. While you may not have necessarily heard of them, you can think of them as like McVities (UK) or Twinkies (USA- Perhaps a posh twinkie).
Like a news story: I certainly wasn't aiming for advert. Here is an article about a UK case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothew_v_Bristol_%26_West_Building_Society I would say that the writing styles are similar. I outlined the dispute in terms of legal field, i gave some basic background infor re beligerents, i decribed the legal criteria and how the court applied the law. Because of translation issues i have not quoted from judgment but there are external links to it.
I think that whilst the writing style may not be to everyones taste, there is a lack of information on wikipedia re Chinese law compared with the US and UK. Considering the size and economic power of China this is a significant gap in the knowledge contained on wikipedia. Hence even if I am not the best writer/contributor, the knowledge will be of use to someone.
If the article is approved in general I will update, but at this time I am concerned that my efforts will disappear at the stroke of a button.
Mithdol (talk) 08:51, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
Wow, I only nominated for deletion because I thought it was undersourced and I couldn't really understand it that well. You've made some strong arguments and you have a valid point about deletion in general. I retract my deletion proposal. Best, PrussianOwl (talk) 08:55, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
There is direct coverage of the subject from ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, Fox News, Billboard Magazine, The Colbert Report, The Philadelphia Inquirer and others. This would seem to be "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" and thus meet general notability guidelines.
Further, as this is a music article, according to the guidelines at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(music)
it would appear to meet Criteria 1: Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself
The subject also meets Criteria 5 as documented in the links to Discogs.
The subject meets Criteria 7 as being "one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city," specifically the goth scene in Philadelphia, as documented in a number of the links.
The subject meets Criteria 12, "Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network." Direct links to the subject's appearances on CNN, Fox News, The Colbert Report were provided with the article.
Could you please give some guidance as to why you believe general notability has not been met and why the four criteria cited for music articles have not been met? Thank you.
When I looked at the sources, I saw that half of them were Discogs, which is considered a dubious-at-best source, and because of the nature of the site, not grounds for notability. Discogs can help an article but being on Discogs is not grounds for notability. YouTube is generally not considered a reliable source either, but being of Fox News may just make that video reliable. AllMusic, like Discogs, if just an entry, doesn't count much towards notability because it catalogs all music. Likewise a Facebook event, even if it's for a notable event, is not in and of itself a reliable source or proof of notability. However, the mentions in CNBC, CNN, Fox News, etc., added to the book source, and the local papers, push this article into notable territory. In the future, however, I would steer clear of YouTube and Facebook if you can help it. As for the content itself, the content seems to show notability, even though it's not a clear-cut case. I would submit again. Best, PrussianOwl (talk) 00:07, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback. What happens next? Do you approve the article now or do I click "Resubmit" and wait another two months? Also, with reference to Discogs, what is considered to be the preferred source of demonstrating that Criteria 5 for music entries has been met? I will update the submission accordingly. Thank you.
69.249.19.36 (talk) 20:02, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
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Hamilton has a tropical climate
In the "Climate data for Hamilton, Bermuda (L.F. Wade International Airport) 1981–2010, extremes 1949–2010" table, the "coldest" month (February) has a mean temperature of 18.0°C which is the very limit between tropical and subtropical climates in Köppen climate classification (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Köppen_climate_classification). In Rivas-Martinez classification, when the hottest 4-month period is the rainiest of the year which is the case in Hamilton, then if a) the mean annual temperature is superior to 21°C (22.3°C in Hamilton) and b) the mean monthly average high temperature of the coldest month is superior to 18°C (20.4°C = average high of February, the coldest month in Hamilton) and c) the Thermicity Index, It is superior to 470 (=10*(22.3+15.4+20.4) = 581 in Hamilton, 22.3 = mean annual temperature, 15.4 is the average low of February, 20.4 is the average high of February) then the climate is tropical.
It = (T + m + M) * 10 with T the mean annual temperature, m the average low of the coldest month and M the average high of the coldest month.
So in both classifications, Hamilton is tropical.
Had the February mean been equal to 17.9°C, the climate would have been subtropical in Köppen classification (but still tropical in Rivas-Martinez classification). Carlo Colussi (talk) 15:59, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Niharika Kohli, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:
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Hello, PrussianOwl. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "9 + 10 = 21".
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Hi PrussianOwl, I noticed that you left a message in my talk page. I'm sorry for not explaining my edit in the Japan page. In the Japan page, there was one sentence that said this:
It is also the world's fourth-largest exporter and fourth-largest importer.
I changed that to this:
It is also the world's fourth-largest exporter and importer.
It was just a small edit removing the unnecessary repeat of "fourth-largest". I think my edit was correct, I just forgot to write an explanation. The Account 1 (talk) 14:50, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
Ohh, sorry I came down as hard as I did, I thought you were just removing stuff at random. Please add your edit back, if you want. Apologies, and happy editing - PrussianOwl (talk) 04:10, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
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