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I remember when you went to tassie for a holiday - I have just found that the whole upper derwent hydro scheme seems to have escaped adequate coverage in wp en - what a chaotic mess - I have also sent an email about something else - I really miss not being at an Adelaide meetup in the last x years - you folks were really good company ! trust all is well, I might need to consult on a few other things down the line - thats enough for the moment JarrahTree11:41, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi JarrahTree. That holiday feels like a long time ago, but I think there may still be some holiday snaps illustrating Wikipedia articles. I am looking in to your email, it has interrupted a bit of housecleaning ([1] ) but I don't think I have spotted the specific problem yet. --Scott DavisTalk11:50, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
seeing no one else seems the slightest interested - could you have look at qantas article - I think both the recent edits were both wrong - any thoughts ? cheers JarrahTree09:40, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
NP - it was resolved - I basically was very tired last night and the two edits after jetstreamer had me confused - has since gone there and fixed, (I was annoyed by the potential BLP issues) - all been and gone... sorry to have bothered you about it JarrahTree13:22, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
That's OK. Editing Wikipedia while tired is nearly as bad as while drunk - don't do it :-) Thanks for getting more eyes on it. --Scott DavisTalk13:32, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for your understanding - there is something about dealing with BLP inside corporate articles... JarrahTree13:37, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
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It was removed from the article about a political party that has now changed its name. I have saved someone the effort by deleting the file myself. Cheers. --Scott DavisTalk10:28, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
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Please tell me what you learned
Hi @ScottDavis: I just noticed that for a few years you looked after Australian Collaboration of the Fortnight. I would love to see the quality of articles on Australian politics, Australian history and just on Australian institutions generally really lift. I'm also interested in creating healthy collaborations between editors - because wiki can be such an isolating thing, and in some spaces, quite hostile. So, that project you had going seems to be a fantastic idea. So, what were the forces at work that slowed the project down? How would you do it differently if you were to do it again? The Little Platoon (talk) 21:13, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi The Little Platoon. Thanks for asking. From what I recall, it eventually wound down to a halt due to lack of interest - nominations stopped rolling in, and the designated ACOTF got very few edits in its fortnight. Eventually, I got tired of trying too. Around that time, I had other issues with Wikipedia as well and stepped away from the keyboard for a bit, followed by some significant real-world turmoil before I eventually returned to Wikipedia.
I guess what is needed is the level of community that has people volunteer to pitch in and make a difference, even on articles that don't personally interest them. Over the years, the base level of a Wikipedia article has improved so that major article improvements take a lot more effort than they used to. --Scott DavisTalk23:04, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
I think sustaining any sense of community, without people ever actually meeting, is super hard. Do you think it would be hard to get ACotF going again? Technically I mean. (I'm okay with connecting and with writing. But I'm not too hot on coding and templates and whatnot.)The Little Platoon (talk) 09:15, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
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Oh dear, my brain seems to have flipped east and west - that was the second time I've done it in as many days! Too much looking must overtax the grey matter sometimes... Thanks for the fix. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 11:57, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
@Laterthanyouthink: That one wasn't there for long. I've corrected east-west flips that have been in articles for years sometimes I think. Thanks for doing the reading that enabled the article improvements. I've just read that the original DC of Munno Para West didn't extend that far, but got sidetracked into family history for a moment. --Scott DavisTalk12:22, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
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@ScottDavis: When you edit an infobox on the Wikipedia page to add a field that doesn't exist - e.g. the hub height, rotor diameter etc, it automatically creates the infobox on the page - (side note, when you do this you have to add the coordinates because it deletes them?). It appears that I copied it but I simply added a few fields in the infobox on the page. Also, the reason I add the hub height/rotor diameter/capacity factor/annual net output in the page is there's no field - or I haven't discovered a field - for it in the wikidata page. Another reason is that the "height" property of the "powered by" statement for the wind farm is ambiguous, does it mean the hub height or tip height?! DiamondIIIXX (talk) 08:48, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
@DiamondIIIXX: - ah, I don't use the visual editor. I wonder if you have identified a bug in it? Hub height and rotor diameter were in the wikidata-only version. The use did not appear to be ambiguous in the documentation on {{Infobox power station}} which says that {{{wind_hub_height}}} is the "Height of the wind turbine towers from base to hub" and drawn from powered by (P516) with qualifier height (P2048). I did not include the Capacity factor or Annual net output as I didn't spot them in the references I used. They should be able to be drawn from capacity factor (P6639) and annual energy output (P4131) with optional qualifier point in time (P585) respectively (but I have not tried yet). I suspect that if we add them to Wikidata they will appear in that version of the infobox, as historic page versions usually use current template versions, so don't always look like they did at the time of the text edit. --Scott DavisTalk09:16, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
@ScottDavis: I'm not talking about the hub height in the infobox power station, I'm talking about adding it to the wikidata entry. When I look at the "powered by" statement, I only see height, not rotor diameter. Are there hidden fields the infobox imports onto a Wikipedia page? DiamondIIIXX (talk) 10:25, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
this set of edits added them to Wikidata and they now show in the infobox at the last edit with a wikidata infobox, but without the fine date detail you provided. I only used English Wikipedia as the reference as I'm not sure where you got those numbers. I've also noticed that you updated the installed capacity – I had used 130MW as that is the total in the sources I saw, not the slightly higher result of multiplying the number of turbines by their individual capacity.
The talk pages of the template and Wikidata WikiProject have discussions about how to represent things and add more features. Pulling the references through is technically difficult, for example, but I expect the date for the capacity factor could be added like it is for the annual output. The template experts are pretty responsive (I got a format error fixed for the official website since I made that article). --Scott DavisTalk12:17, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
I downloaded the monthly csv files and collated the total into the table you see on the Wikipedia page.
The installed capacity is without question the number of turbines X the MW rating of each turbine. Registered capacity may be different but usually the most important thing is simply the installed capacity.
I simply took the average generation (524,712 + 504,217) / 2 and used that result for the Annual net output. More precisely, it's 514,479.5. I used this for calculating the capacity factor - it's (514479.5 * 100) / (133.2 * 365 * 24) = 44.10.
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@Shhhnotsoloud: I have copied in the content of the target page as it was up until November when the disambiguation page was replaced by a redirect. If the primary topic was to be changed from disambiguation to a redirect, then the (disambiguation) redirect should have been replaced by moving the disambiguation page to its place. I have completed this action by copy-paste as four lines was not worth the effort of selective undeletions and moves. --Scott DavisTalk12:45, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
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Regarding this article, don't you think that image of Parliament House is best suited as a lede image above the Scott Morrison Dropbox? It's currently down in the text body, but it looks out of place there. All the allegations draw back to Parliament House either figuratively (Porter) or literally (Higgins), so I just thought it would make the most sense. Ashton 29 (talk) 14:40, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
@Ashton 29: I left it at the top at the end of my editing for tonight. I think the building at night is a great image for the Higgins rape allegation, but not so sure about it for the debating team allegation. --Scott DavisTalk14:51, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
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