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Adams on Mahomet & Koran

Thanks for your note. I've replied on the article talk page. Please see Talk:John Quincy Adams#Adams on Mahomet & Koran.   Will Beback  talk  07:13, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Suzuki vs CU

I have requested outside comments on this dispute, as it will otherwise go on for ever. I don't know how you found the video, any other possible sources out there?  ⊂ Mr.choppers ⊃  (talk) 00:57, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Exsite Webware (software)

Restored, it looks like there was a version mismatch - I didn't see a keepon tag on the page -- Tawker (talk) 03:25, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually it's hangon - see Template:Hang on, no worries, welcome to Wiki! -- Tawker (talk) 03:52, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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it would help to have some specific documentation for the facts of her life, but it seemed OK to me. If you have more references, please add them. DGG ( talk ) 01:30, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Timothy Ball

FYI

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O mio babbino caro

Hi. Yes, Evancho is very notable, but hundreds of notable singers have sung and recorded this song. They need not be listed in the article about the song unless, say, they released a single of it that went to #1. Note that the article does specifically mention that crossover singers have sung the song. The number is certainly one of Evancho's signature numbers, but come back to me in 10 years, and we'll re-evaluate if Evancho is one of the all-time most famous singers of the number like Maria Callas, who isn't even mentioned in the article. -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:42, 10 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]


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I have checked some archived conversations on the article, Elvis Presley,[1] concerning User:Onefortyone, with his same "Elvis died - on toilet" theories. Can you consider having opinion on these two articles, where he continued to add this? They are Graceland and Toilet-related injuries and deaths, discussions at Talk:Graceland#Issues and Talk:Toilet-related injuries and deaths#Issues. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Excelse (talk • contribs) 10:53, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for contacting me on my talk page. While I understand that the criteria for sourcing are somewhat looser, I would still appreciate seeing more than just the sourceforge cite, which did not seem like adequate sourcing to me. Adding some other credible, in-depth sources would be helpful if another reviewer comes along. Best, GABgab 16:17, 3 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Santamoly,
You need to understand that we need several, in-depth reliable sources to be incorporated into the article. Oliver Stone is a film director. He would be a reliable source when it comes to film techniques. A good reliable source would be a newspaper or a news website, like The Times, The Wall Street Journal or CNN. Technology websites like CNET or The Verge would be a good one too. Otherwise there are reliable video game sources, like Game Informer, Gamasutra or Kotaku. If you can't find these, please stop starting new discussions about a CIA involvement in Pokémon Go. I don't think any editor is "nervous" about it, just skeptic about the whole thing. It is detrimental to Wikipedia, and it only takes up our time. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 06:41, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The Talk Page is about improving the article, but deletion of this topic actually detracts from the quality of the article since the CIA question is widely discussed in current news, by notable sources and famous people. When the topic is buttoned up as some are trying to do, it stifles discussion of a most interesting facet of the game. It's better to leave this content in the main article without trying to shut it down since the topic has legs. Santamoly (talk) 06:51, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Let's keep the discussion in one place, shall we? I try to keep an eye out on talk pages I've responded at. Otherwise you can use {{ping}}, like {{ping|Soetermans}} and I will get a notification.
It is not "widely discussed in current news, by notable sources and famous people". If it was, how come you can't find the sources to back it up? Did you read WP:RS? Please see WP:WEIGHT too. A insignificant minority view of a subject isn't automatically part of its article. Talk pages are intended to discuss possible changed and improvements to the article, but no other editor is agreeing with you, so the topic doesn't have legs either. So unless you can find reliable sources, please do not start another pointless discussion. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 07:09, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Just my two cents, probably best to drop the CIA thing for the time being. Even if it were true, it would take time for something like that to get broad coverage in big name sources. If/when that happens the discussion can always be revisited. But right now I think you're hurting your case a little bit by reopening the discussion over and over. There is WP:NODEADLINE, but it's good that you're keeping an eye out for sources. The New York sex offender thing may be a good catch. We'll see what everyone else thinks. TimothyJosephWood 10:25, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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   I'm sorry to arrive here and find you apparently blocked, but hope the underlying dispute can be resolved and you'll be back. My guess is that you can still reply to me on either of our talk pages. (Yours would [obviously?] be smoother, but that convention is not one of the many things i'm compulsive about; i'll check in, decreasingly often, for a while even if you haven't pinged me.)
   I often look at old-but-unarchived talk pages of article pgs, adding missing sigs and annotating multi-edit/single-time-stamp contribs (feel welcome to ask why), and ran across the expression of yours that i adapted for this talk-secn's title. If i didn't fuddle my estimate, you had abt 350 or 400 edits under your belt when you used the expr'n in yr edit summary re Spanish Inquisition (hmm, do we cover the MPython sketch, and link to it from the Dab page?), so it's not obvious you'd had by then a fair chance to figure it out, nor obvious that you'll've figured it out by now, so i'll ask: do you understand why the multi-save/single-sig method is problematic, and that the sandbox solution has numerous advantages?
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Not sure what any of this (e.g. "multi-save/single-sig method") is about. Nor how the Inquisition entered the conversation. But I do enjoy re-runs of Monty Python on YouTube. So if you can explain, I'd be thankful Santamoly (talk) 07:40, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
   Well, then in a sense all is as it shd be, since "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!" Is the recurring Python punchline, with details available via the SI Dab page. But...
   Yrs ago you edited the tk pg for the medieval SI with several saves but either replacing the timestamp with each edit, or waiting 'til you were done before signing; you replaced at least one User:Signbot sig with a later sig, muddying or rather camoflaging the history of your talk-page edits for that article. And barging was yr term for Signbot doing its job. You'll be reminded if you go look.
--Jerzy•t 12:53, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Was that within the last 10 years? I have no idea how to find such a long-ago item without digging through 1000+ entries line-by-line. My memory doesn't quite go back that far! Even if I found the item, I wouldn't know what to do with it with respect to the concerns expressed. Is it important so many years later? Santamoly (talk) 21:07, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Political Censorship

It appears from the above notice that I'm being subject to political censorship by "involved administrators". This particular admin sees any discussion of the Sukhoi Su-25 airplane (made in the Georgia SSR) as a "Ukrainian topic", and I've been banned from editing by what is called a "permanent topic ban, broadly interpreted". It appears that clever Ukrainian partisans have found that they can control content by requesting "permanent topic bans", This is also known as "political censorship" since it's a simple disagreement, brought under a "permanent topic ban, broadly interpreted" for convenience of managing censorship.

AE appeal declined

Your appeal against your Eastern European topic ban has been declined (see [2]). Best, --regentspark (comment) 14:26, 22 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Third AE appeal declined

Your appeal at AE was declined (see [3]). You are also additionally banned from appealing the topic ban for a period of one year. You may appeal at WP:ARCA but, and this is only a suggestion, you should consider waiting because, given the wide range of admin support for both bans, the appeal is unlikely to be accepted. --regentspark (comment) 16:51, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@RegentsPark: This posting made by Santamoly at 05:40 on 28 September 2018 is in breach of his/her topic ban. A topic ban includes discussions or suggestions about the banned topic anywhere on Wikipedia, including edit summaries and the user's own user and talk pages (including sandboxes).-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:57, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for reverting your topic breach. The Caucasus region is on the border of Eastern Europe and Asia. The countries in the Caucasus are included in the Council of Europe and the European Broadcasting Area. So I think it is safe to say that they are part of "Eastern Europe, broadly interpreted".-- Toddy1 (talk) 08:50, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Censorship in Wikipedia

After one year of being "Topic Banned" on Wikipedia for discussing the performance characteristics of the Su-25 airplane, I'm guessing that it's OK to discuss the matter of how these topic bans are a form of censorship. The ban was initially implemented on the basis that the Su-25 airplane was "eastern European" in manufacture, and an editor could be banned since it's permissible to ban editors who discuss eastern European topics in an undesirable manner. However the Su-25 was manufactured in Georgia, opening the possibility that it's not actually "eastern European". So (as the reader can see above) the ban was extended by stretching the definition of "eastern European". It became "Eastern Europe, broadly interpreted". Thus, by stretching definitions, censorship of discussions (in this case, aircraft performance), can be implemented in a hurry when needed.Santamoly (talk) 22:12, 19 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your topic ban is indefinite. The above is a violation of the topic ban, so I suggest that you retract it. If you want to appeal your ban, you should do so at the administrator's noticeboard. It's not a good idea to do what you've done above immediately before doing so - reviewers will expect a clean record. Acroterion (talk) 22:31, 19 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I don't really want to use up everyone's energy with appeals if the results are pre-ordained. I accept that I'm banned from Wikipedia because it appears anything can be included in a topic ban that is "broadly interpreted". For example, you have instantly extended the topic ban here and now to include "censorship". I'm not interested in appealing the topic ban because I know how it will go. I accept that you have a job to do, and there's nothing I can do about it. But I'm still, with others elsewhere, following the matter of how admins can implement censorship by extending topic bans. It's always useful to understand that (on Wikipedia) there are topics that may not be discussed - ever. After 15 years of editing on Wikipedia, I wasn't aware of this dark side of Wikipedia until I got involved in the subject of aircraft performance standards. In a nutshell, it's useful for others to know about censorship on Wikipedia. Santamoly (talk) 22:52, 19 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The only place you're allowed to discuss your topic ban is in an appeal. Not here. Acroterion (talk) 15:04, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
If you read over my edit you'll see that I'm not actually discussing the "topic ban". It's simply mentioned as background. We could be fussing over meat pies. I'm discussing the self-appointed censors who try to control old and experienced editors like myself. I have no idea who you are, nor where you come from, nor even if you are a legitimate agent of Wikipedia. All I know is that your immediate task is to prowl about the place intimidating other editors into silence when the discussion touches forbidden subject areas. I'm still not sure what the banned topic is. It doesn't make much sense because whoever would have thought that engineering formulae, like meat pies, are politically sensitive? It's the mysterious arbitrariness of the Wikipedia censorship process that interests me now. And, of course, the existence of the apparently self-appointed watchers like yourself, with all due respect, who lurk in the shadows carrying their "broadly interpreted" night-sticks. Santamoly (talk) 16:16, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You may also discuss your topic ban and its breadth with the administrator who imposed it. Otherwise, not here or anywhere else. Acroterion (talk) 17:15, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
One more time: I am not discussing the topic ban, I'm discussing censorship using the "broadly interpreted" method. But thank you for your vigilance. This discussion (which I'm sharing with my colleagues) helps other academics to understand how Wikipedia deals with awkward topics, and it clarifies the limitations of Wikipedia as an information resource. Santamoly (talk) 19:52, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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@Acroterion: I just noticed, that Santamoly was topic banned from anything related to Eastern Europe. Is he still topic banned? Because he added original research to the article Vladimir Putin. And the article is related to Eastern Europe.--Renat (talk) 12:22, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The topic ban is indefinite as seen here at Wikipedia:Arbitration enforcement log. Since I was involved in the original events that led to the sanction (and therefore had no part in its imposition), I will take no action, except to remind Santamoly that the restriction still exists and may be enforced if topic ban violations recur. Acroterion (talk) 13:05, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Got it. Thanks for the info.--Renat (talk) 13:20, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like this has been going on for some time, and is not a one-off mistake. Acroterion (talk) 14:33, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah. That's why I raised this question.--Renat (talk) 14:37, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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I've been blocked for several years (by yourself as admin) from editing anything to do with "Eastern Europe, broadly interpreted". Now this "broadly interpreted" means that I'm continually uncertain of what I can edit, and what is censored. For example, I was blocked from editing the Periodic Table because Mendeleev might be "Eastern Europe, broadly interpreted". I'm also under threat for editing aircraft concerning some Asian aircraft engineering topics because they might be "Eastern Europe, broadly interpreted". Some Boeing aircraft ("Western") have titanium parts from Asia which is sometimes "Eastern Europe, broadly interpreted". I have some contributions that need fixing (source links, etc) that I'd like to fix, and some vaccination data and financial data that needs fixing. Since some topics are world-wide, occasionally someone will flag them as "Eastern Europe, broadly interpreted", as you have done.

In the past, you have commented that even asking this question is an offense against the ban. Regardless, Wikipedia still needs edits.

Can you suggest a best procedure to continue editing under these hazy lifetime restrictions? Should I ask permission for each edit, or should I take a chance like I did recently, but got banned for 2 weeks again. I'm not wanting to be a nuisance, but teaching and learning continues, even in the presence of strict censorship. Thanks!Santamoly (talk) 09:48, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Asking about a broad area is probably the easiest. For example, I would not have issues with Boeing does not matter where the details are made, but if this suddenly evolves into a discussion how the details made in Easter Europe are better or worse than the others it is probably your topic ban violation.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:39, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Arbitration Enforcement noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a report involving you at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement regarding a possible violation of an Arbitration Committee decision. The thread is Santamoly. Thank you. --Renat 16:04, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]


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Unblock requests and discussion

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Santamoly (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I'm not sure how this works, so I'm hoping that someone can help untangle this puzzle. Some editors keep complaining that I'm disregarding blocking rules, but others say there is no problem since my edits are ordinary and uncomplicated. My question is,"What am I doing that is making other editors so excited to block my edits?" For example, the Mikulin AM-38 article contains the statement "The diameter of the GCS impeller was also reduced and its compression ration was lowered" This is not correct. It is the compression ratio that was lowered. Some folks say it's OK to make these edits, but others say I should be blocked indefinitely for making edits like this. I'm not clear, and don't see any reason to block my simple edits. Others say my edits about Boeing are acceptable, but others say I can't mention Boeing's use of titanium forgings. I'd like to request unblocking for the simple reason that all this energy spent on discussing my blocks just uses up huge amounts of time and energy for no particular benefit to Wikipedia. Santamoly (talk) 20:15, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

As of 21 September 2018, you are not permitted to edit anything relating to Eastern Europe, broadly interpreted. You are perfectly well aware of this, having discussed it repeatedly here on this talk page. So, you are not permitted to edit about Eastern Europe or anything related to Eastern Europe. What are you doing that is making other editors so excited to block your edits? Simple, you are editing about Eastern Europe (broadly construed). Repeatedly, over and over again. Other users who are not subject to this topic ban may write about these topics, but you must not. For example, you are not permitted to write about the T-72, which is a Soviet tank. You are not permitted to write about the Russian military organisation, Wagner Group. You are not permitted to write about the Soviet aircraft, the Il-103. All of these are violations of your topic ban. All of these are related to Eastern Europe. You are topic banned from writing about Eastern Europe. I'm... legitimately unsure what the problem is here? Which part is confusing? I'm asking this honestly. You don't seem to think writing about Eastern Europe or related topics is a problem, but it is. You know it is, you know you aren't permitted to write about these topics. Have I missed something here? Yamla (talk) 20:26, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Santamoly (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I'm sorry that I have no idea what is the reason for being blocked. I've been a successful and useful contributor to Wikipedia for almost 20 years, but became blocked for some unknown reason 4 or 5 years ago. The best reason offered for being blocked is "editing while blocked". But since the original block reason is unknown, the entire block reason continues to be a mystery. There may be a reason somewhere, but nobody has said what it is. It could be a type of Wikipedia censorship but, to be honest, nobody knows - especially me. I'd like to request unblocking to be able to continue contributing usefully. But I'm unable to add much more than that since nobody really knows what the blocking was all about (other than "editing while blocked" consisting of small spelling corrections, etc, which I assumed were OK). Santamoly (talk) 07:02, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

You don't seem to be understanding what we are telling you. You are blocked for violating your topic ban from editing about Eastern Europe. You don't address that in this request. 331dot (talk) 07:13, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Interesting. But I haven't been editing about "Eastern Europe". That's the mystery in all this. Various Admins (unfamiliar with the ban) pop up to say this, but it's not so. That's why I'm puzzled. One said I've been editing about Soviet Union aircraft - but I haven't. Another said I've been editing about a Russian private military contractor - but such an entity doesn't exist. So I boldly corrected a spelling error in this article about a non-existent group. Again, this appeared to be OK with one admin that I asked directly. Another commented that I'd edited an article on a "Soviet" tank (T-72), but I see that this tank was "Iraqi-assembled T-72", not Soviet. None of these edits are in violation of my topic ban regarding articles about "Eastern Europe, broadly interpreted". Nobody has ever complained or objected to anything I've ever edited. Now the biggest puzzle for me is that I have asked if it's OK to make these edits, and an Admin YMblanter said he has no problem with these edits.

Now Admin Yamla above says "you know you aren't permitted to write about these topics", but this isn't so. I have asked and was OK'd. So who is telling the truth? It doesn't make sense to be banned for correcting spelling errors (which seems correct to Admin Yamla). So why was I banned in the first place? Can anybody tell me? Santamoly (talk) 20:38, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The topic ban discussion is in your topic ban notice on this page, and always has been [4].None of this should be a mystery to you. T-72s are a product of Eastern Europe, as are Il-103s.TheWagner Group is a Russian paramilitary organization. Acroterion (talk) 21:40, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the reply - which doesn't really answer the questions. The T-72 is nothing to do with Eastern Europe. Wikipedia says the Russian factory was "located 25 kilometers east of the virtual border between Europe and Asia". In other words, it was made in Asia. The T-72 in question was an Iraqi copy. Wikipedia says "The Iraqis called their T-72 copies the "Lion of Babylon" (Asad Babil". In other words, they're nothing to do with Eastern Europe. So please tell me why you are saying it's a product of "Eastern Europe" when clearly it's not. The Il-103 is an American-certified plane made in Hungary which is part of the European Community. What does this have to do with "Eastern Europe"? And the Wagner Group clearly doesn't exist at all, so perhaps I crossed the line of permissible edits, but it's not a significant error since it was a simple grammar fix to an article about a fictitious group. I can accept this was a mistake. Are these worth a lifetime ban? Especially since the other spelling/grammar fixes appear to be permitted (I asked permission). Santamoly (talk) 22:03, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"Broadly construed" means that that kind of hair-splitting won't get you much sympathy. "Lifetime bans" are rarely imposed, most editors are extended the standard offerof possible reinstatement of editing privileges with the passage of time and a recognition that their behavior must meet expectations.Right now, with the continued obfuscation about tank plant locations and such, that second part seems like a high hill to climb.Acroterion (talk) 22:25, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Santamoly (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Edit help needed

Decline reason:

Not an unblock request (I'm leaving the note below intact but please note that it may be construed as a violation of your block). RegentsPark (comment) 21:42, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Can anyone help me with edits? I'm permanently blocked, but I still have some outside respect for my 20 years of useful Wikipedia editing and article creation. Today I noticed that the article for Nakhodka has the following error: "Annual turnover tops 13.1 billion rubles (over US$400,400)" That should likely be be "US$200,000,000" if using the American billion units.

If someone could make that correction, we'd all appreciate it! Thanks :-) Santamoly (talk) 21:09, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Still looking for help with house-keeping edits. Can anyone help with this? It's my understanding that my edits were permitted, but then they became "not permitted". Can't say I understand what's going on. Thanks for looking into this. Santamoly (talk) 02:56, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]