en User talk:Sanbear

October 2023

Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to Paul Bettany, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. 4TheWynne (talk • contribs) 13:15, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Paul Bettany. 4TheWynne (talk • contribs) 14:11, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Sanbear (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Hi there. I didn't revert 3times in 24 hours. I got a warning after a single edit. From the comment, and the tone of the comments from the two editors who are reverting the changes I made, I believe they are using the edit war block threat as a to keep "their" page as the status quo.

Decline reason:

You are blocked for edit warring, not specifically for violating 3RR. It is possible to be edit warring without violating 3RR. I concur that you seem to have been deliberately spacing out your edits. 331dot (talk) 09:44, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

. Note from blocking admin: Per WP:EW, "it is absolutely possible to engage in edit warring without breaking the three-revert rule, or even coming close to doing so." Indeed, a reviewing admin will easily see that it almost seems like, under the misapprehension that 3RR was the only way you could get yourself blocked, you were deliberately spacing out your reverts.

As I noted at ANEW when recording the block, you continued reverting while discussion was ongoing, apparently indifferent to repeated reminders from other editors, as well as an inline note in the text, that Bettany's nationality in the lede was not to be changed without consensus on the talk page, which it was clear there was not by any standard at any time. To support your claim about other editors "protecting the status quo", you made the motte-and-bailey argument that by their logic we should still be saying that Elizabeth II is the sovereign. Nuh-uh. Daniel Case (talk) 07:03, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Daniel,

You might note that the online note was added during the discussion on the talk page as well. I believe the other two editors were not necessarily acting in good faith while reverting the edits. Sanbear (talk) 08:21, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Immaterial. Generally it does not reflect well on an editor accused of edit warring if they continue making reverts while the discussion is on) Daniel Case (talk) 21:25, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring on Paul Bettany

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Paul Bettany. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. KyleJoan^talk 13:07, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, it's not quite an edit war. I've posted on the talk page, I've made good faith and factual edits. I'm not sure why we don't want to acknowledge his dual citizenship Sanbear (talk) 13:35, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kyle, how can you have a one sided edit war? I note that you've only put a notice in my talk page, and not the person who reverted the edits without discussion on the talk page Sanbear (talk) 17:03, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Sanbear reported by User:KyleJoan (Result: ). Thank you. KyleJoan^talk 07:13, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Daniel Case (talk) 04:28, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]