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Your submission at Articles for creation: Dua-e Ahad has been accepted

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Jawshan Kabir (June 28)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Happysquirrel was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Happy Squirrel (talk) 18:49, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello! Saff V., I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering or curious about why your article submission was declined please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Happy Squirrel (talk) 18:49, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

A belated welcome!

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Jawshan Kabir has been accepted

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Happy Squirrel (talk) 15:16, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations on the article! It was much more informative. Here is some basic followup and advice to help you with future articles and help you improve this one. Please excuse my heavy reliance on Catholic examples, but I am Catholic and I don't want to misuse examples I don't understand.

• Wikipedia has to stay neutral. This means that we cannot state the truth of any religious position in Wikipedia's voice. What we can do is say "Muslims believe", "the Catholic Church teaches", "according to the New Testament" or "Dawkins says that" and then say what they say. Note where I added this to the article. If you can give more specific in-text attribution, that would be amazing!
• When you say the "context" of a prayer, I am rather confused, could you specify? I just left those sentences as is, but they should be clarified.
• You can pipe links. This means that the text of the link need not be the title of the linked article. What you do is write [[name of linked article|text to appear]] and you have a piped link.
• I added Gabriel in parenthesis to the article text. Feel free to remove. I just thought that since anyone Christian or with a Christian cultural background will recognize that name better, it might improve comprehension for a large number of your readers.

Anyways, nice job on the article. It was a pleasure to review and accept it. Happy editing! Happy Squirrel (talk) 15:27, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

How to format GoogleBooks links

Hello Saff, I notice that some of your footnotes are just cited as a title and "google.com". This is unhelpful because a reader can't easily see the author, date, publisher, etc. of the book.

If you have any footnote to a book on GoogleBooks, please just take the link and plug it into the tool at http://reftag.appspot.com, and it will instantly give you a fully-formatted Wikipedia footnote you can paste in. Please just take 10-15 minutes, and go to the articles you have published so far, and use that tool to format your footnotes so they are nice, clear, and full. That way too, if the link is ever broken (due to websites changing), readers can still see exactly what book you mean, and find a better/current link. It's a very useful tool and I use it all the time, so good luck with it! MatthewVanitas (talk) 02:04, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the useful link and tool.Saff V. (talk) 09:46, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: The verses of Hijab (July 12)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: The Verse of Wilayah (July 20)

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Sulfurboy (talk) 23:28, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello! Saff V., I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering or curious about why your article submission was declined please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Sulfurboy (talk) 23:28, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Your article

I reviewed your article and found it eligible to be transferred to the main space but this does not mean that is complete. You may improve it by finding some more reliable source. Mhhossein (talk) 05:04, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

@Mhhossein:Thanks for your help. I have a question. What is orphan and what should I do?Saff V. (talk) 05:07, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

This tag shows that there's no link to your article from other articles. In fact you should put the link of your article in other articles so that the readers have the chance of finding this article. Mhhossein (talk) 05:10, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

More explanation is found here. Mhhossein (talk) 05:11, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

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@Stfg Thanks a lot.Saff V. (talk) 12:31, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

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Supplication of Abu Hamzah al-Thumali

Hello, Saff V. - In response to your request of a copyedit of Supplication of Abu Hamzah al-Thumali at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests, I just read and did my best to copyedit the article. Since I know nothing about the subject, it was not easy. If I've made any errors, please feel free to correct them. If you wish, you can explain to me what you would like to say, and I will try to word [express] it correctly. There were two things I wasn't sure about:

1) In trying to make the second-to-last sentence of the section Supplication of Abu Hamzah al-Thumali#Chain of authority grammatically correct, I had to delete something about "confirmed" or "confirming". If that needs to be in the article, you'll have to figure out a way to express it, or try to explain it to me so that I can put it into correct English.

2) Recited at night/in the evening or at dawn or recited at night/in the evening and at dawn? Now I've got "or" in one place and "and" at another. That's got to be made consistent. Corinne (talk) 00:03, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

I thought of two more things that would improve the article:

1) For non-Muslim readers, you might either explain what "supplication" means in this context (that is, the particular meaning of "supplication" as it is used in this article), and/or link the word to an article or part of an article so readers can read more if they want to.

2) Also, even though the name Abu Hamza al-Thumali is linked to an article, you might think about giving a few details about when and where he lived and wrote. I don't see a single mention of a date or time period in the article. Corinne (talk) 00:09, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

P.S. Why do you have "Hamzah" in bold at the beginning of the article and "Hamza" throughout the article? Corinne (talk) 00:13, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

@Corinne: Thanks for your contribution in the article. In reply to your question:

1.The better sentence is The Shia scholars of biographical evaluation and historians believed that Abu Hamza al-Thumali's narration was accurate. If the difference appear between narrations, scholars prefer his narration and solve the problem. Also, hadiths or narration that have some connection to him are verified by scholars of biographical evaluation such as Najasi, Shaykh Tusi, Ibn Babawayh, and Ibn Shahre Ashub. The Sunni scholars have not confirmed him. 2. In the correct style, is better use or between these words (every night and dawn). Because the Du'a recite one time in day and Imam al-Sajjad, the fourth Shia Imam , invoked the Du'a in every night or dawn of Ramadan. Therefore, The correct sentence is Imam al-Sajjad, the fourth Shia Imam , invoked the supplication of Abu Hamza al-Thimali in every night or dawn of Ramadan. 3. I linked the supplication word to Du'a page and in this page readers can read more information about the word. Also, I added Du'a in the see also. 4. I added Abu Hamza al-Thimali section in the article and wrote a few details about him and his character. 5. The correct spell was Hamza and Hamzah replaced with Hamza.Saff V. (talk) 10:36, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

@Corinne:I done and added your notice in the article and have made a number of edits subsequent after has received its copyedit. Therefore, BlueMoonset stated that Reviewer should check that previous issues raised here have been addressed.Saff V. (talk) 04:50, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Saff V., I have made a few more minor changes in wording to improve the clarity of the article. However, there are still some things that need clarifying. I know these things may be clear to you, but they will not be clear to a native speaker of English.

1) First, I'm going to repeat something I said earlier: I strongly recommend giving some indication of when al-Thumali lived. It's not enough to say he was a companion of three imams if your readers don't know when they lived, either. It helps the reader to know when in history al-Thumali lived and worked.

2) This phrase is not clear: "scholars of biographical evaluation". "Biographical evaluation" just doesn't make sense in English. Try to find another way to say this. I'm just going to guess; perhaps one of these will be right (the words separated by slashes (/) are just alternatives from which you can choose):

• scholars who specialize in evaluating the authenticity/accuracy/credentials/quality of earlier scholars / scholars' writings ...

• scholars who evaluate earlier scholars / scholars' writings for [see above], ...

• When evaluating earlier writers / scholars / scholars' writings , Shia scholars...

3) In this sentence in the lead: "The supplication is mentioned in the eqbal al-a’mal of Sayyed Ibn Tawus", the phrase "eqbal al-a’mal" will definitely not be clear to the general reader of Wikipedia. I suggest either adding an explanatory phrase after it (or after the author's name) enclosed in a pair of commas, or a short descriptive phrase before it ("the .... eqbal al-a’mal"), or linking it, or some combination of these.

4) In the very first sentence in the lead, "The supplication of Abu Hamza al-Thumali (Arabic: دعاء أبي حمزة الثمالي) is a Du'a narrated from Imam al-Sajjad", the phrase "is...narrated from" does not make sense. (This construction also appears in the section on "Chain of authority" and it doesn't make sense there, either.) The normal usage of the verb to narrate is in the active voice, followed by an object: "Mr. X narrated the events of the weekend." The verb means "to tell the events [to someone]" – usually in the order in which they happened. You can say this with passive voice: "The events of the weekend were narrated [by Mr. X]." You will see that there is no "from" in either of these. What do you mean by "from"? Maybe "narrate" is not even the right verb here. Joshua Jonathan Perhaps you can help with this and some of the other issues.

5) In the first section after the lead you have this sentence:

• It was reported on the authority of Ali al-Ridha, who said, "Abu Hamza in his time was like Salman in his time."

When I see this sentence, my first question is, "What is 'it'?" What was reported? i think maybe this sentence is unnecessarily wordy and could be simplified to something like this:

• Ali al-Ridha also said, "Abu Hamza in his time was like Salman in his time."

What do you think? Would that express what you want to say?

6) In the section on Chain of authority, you have this sentence:

• This Du'a is seen in the Eqbal al-A'mal of Sayyed Ibn Tawus, who writes that the authenticity of the supplication of Abu Hamza al-Thimali reach to Harun ibn Musa ibn Ahmad Talla'ukbara who is a recognized scholar in hadith studies.

In this sentence, it is not clear what this means: "the authenticity of the supplication of Abu Hamza al-Thimali reach to Harun ibn Musa ibn Ahmad Talla'ukbara". First of all, "reach" is in the wrong form or tense. If you mean today, use present tense, and then it should be "reaches to". If you mean in the past, use past tense: "reached to". But even with that correction, it doesn't make sense. How can the authenticity of a written work "reach to" a person? What do you really mean? Try to explain it to me and I will help you express it right. Well, that's all for now. Corinne (talk) 18:33, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Hallo Saff V. and Corinne. I took a look at the page, but it's really not my topic. I have no idea what would be common terminology and style of writing in this context, so I'm afraid I can't say anything meaningfull about it. i have added a link to "supplication," though; I didn't even know what that is. Best regards, and succes with the article, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 19:06, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Kautilya3 and Ugog Nizdast Can you help resolve some of these issues? Corinne (talk) 19:14, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

@Corinne: Thanks for your help in editing the article. 1 and 5. First of all, I must to correct the sentence. The correct form is Ali al-Ridha, the eighth Imam of Shia stated about him: "Abu Hamza in his time was similar to Salman in prophet time."

I want to show the great esteem of Abu Hamza for Imams. Also they considered him as a trustworthy person. Any way I preferred indicate that by nomination to statements of one of Imams. Can you find out my mean?

2. Text were edited in this form: Historians and scholars who evaluate earlier narrators (based on the Science of Narration) believed that Abu Hamza al-Thumali's narration was accurate and reliable.

3. Text were edited in this form: Eqbal al-a’mal - is an Arabic book included Du’a, prayer and practice which have been recommended to perform at specific times of the year-

4. Text were edited in this form: The supplication of Abu Hamza al-Thumali (Arabic: دعاء أبي حمزة الثمالي) is a Du'a attributed to Imam al-Sajjad.

6. The correct tens is past form of reach. In Islamic science of narration, when a reliable scholar narrated the Hadith or supplication or etc, we say that this Hadith or supplication has authenticity and is reliable. Another point is a chain of narrators that should be clear. The last link of the chain is Harun ibn Musa ibn Ahmad Talla'ukbara that Sayyed Ibn Tawus narrated supplication of him. In other word Sayyed ibn Tawus received the supplication from Harun ibn Musa ibn Ahmad Talla'ukbara. I hope to make it clear. Thanks for your patient.

Of course I explained more detail at second sentence of this paragraph. But according to points that you nominated at part 4 and 6 I think, it’s better to rewrite this sentence “According to Eqbal al-A'mal, the chain of authority was described as following: Sayyed Ibn Tawus narrated the supplication from Harun ibn Musa ibn Ahmad Talla'ukbara and he narrated from Hassan bin Mahboob Srad. Finally he narrated from Abu Hamza al-Thimali” to this: “According to Eqbal al-A'mal, the chain of authority was described as following: Sayyed Ibn Tawus received it from Harun ibn Musa ibn Ahmad Talla'ukbara who received it from Hassan bin Mahboob Srad who received it from Abu Hamza al-Thimali who recived it from Imam al-Sajjad. Is it good? Thanks for your patient.Saff V. (talk) 10:12, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

• I'm glad you added the additional information about the eqbal (the work in Arabic). I made a few more changes in the text to make it clearer. I think it is approaching a good article now. However, there are a few things:

1) You still didn't clarify "reach to".

2) You still didn't clarify "scholars of biographical evaluation" (see above) I didn't see the link to Science of Narration. Is it there? I'll have to look again.

3) In the sentence you copied above, "Historians and scholars who evaluate earlier narrators (based on the Science of Narration) believed that Abu Hamza al-Thumali's narration was accurate and reliable", if "evaluate" is in present tense, then all the verbs that follow in that sentence should be in present tense. Then the sentence would be about scholars evaluating earlier narrators today, or at any time (always true). So I changed "believed" to "believe", "was" to "is". If this is all about scholars in the past, then "evaluate" should be in past tense, and the other verbs can go back to past tense. It all depends on whether you are referring to scholars today or scholars in the past.

4) I changed the last part, the chain, to successive adjective clauses, "..., who...", which I think is clearer than "..., and he..." Corinne (talk) 14:59, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

• @Corinne: Greeting, Thanks for your help.

1. My mean of reach to be that Sayyed Ibn Tawus had received the supplication from Harun ibn Musa ibn Ahmad Talla'ukbara by brokers. So the means of authenticity is that the brokers are reliable. Is it clear?

My proposal: this sentence According to Eqbal al-A'mal, the chain of authority was described as following: Sayyed Ibn Tawus narrated the supplication from Harun ibn Musa ibn Ahmad Talla'ukbara and he narrated from Hassan bin Mahboob Srad. Finally he narrated from Abu Hamza al-Thimali changes to this According to Eqbal al-A'mal, the chain of authority was described as following: Sayyed Ibn Tawus received it from Harun ibn Musa ibn Ahmad Talla'ukbara who received it from Hassan bin Mahboob Srad who received it from Abu Hamza al-Thimali who received it from Imam al-Sajjad. Please, see below:

Imam al-Sajjad

Abu Hamza al-Thimali

Hassan bin Mahboob Srad

Harun ibn Musa ibn Ahmad Talla'ukbara

Sayyed Ibn Tawus

Do you agree with me? Is it better to use receive as narrate?

2. You proposed three phrase for "scholars of biographical evaluation" and I choose one of them, but unfortunately it is an ambiguous. To clarifying the phrase, I give reference to Wikipedia article of biographical evaluation. We read: "Biographical evaluation (Arabic: عِلْمُ الرِّجال, translit.: `Ilm al-Rijāl), literally meaning 'Knowledge of Men' but more commonly understood as the science of narration, refers to a discipline of Islamic religious studies within hadith terminology in which the narrators of hadith are evaluated. Its goal is to distinguish authentic and reliable hadiths from unreliable hadiths in establishing the credibility of the narrators, using both historic and religious knowledge.`Ilm ar-rijal is synonymous with what is commonly referred to as al-jarḥ wa al-taʻdīl (discrediting and accrediting) – the criticism and declared acceptance of hadith narrators."

3. Thanks for your attention. It is about scholars at every times, not only past. Thanks for your patient.Saff V. (talk) 06:45, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

I think one problem is that I don't know anything about Muslim religion or scholarship. Thus, I don't understand the concepts. I think you need a different editor to help you. Corinne (talk) 23:23, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

@P-123:Can you complete copy editing of supplication of Abu Hamzah al-Thumali article and approve the context? Because, the article is nominated for DYK.Saff V. (talk) 09:33, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Can someone give an update of what's the current situation. @Corinne:? I've briefly skimmed through and for the two points "reach to" isn't in the article and the link biographical evaluation is given. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 15:12, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Ugog Nizdast I'm sorry, I hadn't realized that "reach to" had been removed and the link to bio. eval. had been given. The article looks good now. Thanks. Corinne (talk) 18:39, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

@Corinne: and @Ugog Nizdast: I have made a lot of major and minor changes to improve the clarity of the article. However, there is one things in Chain of authority section. Therefore, I wrote this section again and clarify the Chain of authority. If the article is good, please write your positive comments in this page. Thanks Saff V. (talk) 06:32, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

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The verse of Wilayah

No, this edit is not even English, let alone acceptable. If you're claiming that this story appears in the Quran and is not merely a hadith you must provide a verse. (Ideally linked using <ref>{{cite quran|?|?}}</ref>.) If you're giving up on looking, remove the entire claim, not the {{fact}} tag. — LlywelynII 08:46, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Actually, having checked the two (non-Quranic) sources given for that claim, both of them mention it as a hadith and do not claim that the story was mentioned in the Quran. I'll just remove that idea, pending your finding the relevant verse. — LlywelynII 09:10, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Kindly also notice that several of your original citations gave the wrong authors, which is pretty unhelpful. When using collections of scholarly articles, you should be careful to see whether Google Books is giving you the author of the whole book or the editor of a collection of articles. If it's the second one, you have to look at the table of contents to find the actual author. — LlywelynII 08:48, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

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• @Casliber: I think that my DYK remained less than 12 hours in the main page. 02:30, 14 October 2015 (UTC) my DYK move to main page and must remain until 14:30, 14 October 2015. Can you explain that what's happen?Saff V. (talk) 07:13, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Saff V. I am not sure. They are sometimes shorter if they change late. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:34, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations on your third DYK! —GrammarFascist _contribs^talk 22:32, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

GrammarFascist Thanks.Saff V. (talk) 15:01, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

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Lohoof

Hello, Saff V. - In response to a request for a copy-edit at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests, I have reviewed Lohoof and made several edits. I did my best to put the sentences into colloquial, Standard English, but in several places I had to guess what was meant. Since I do not know the subject matter very well, I may have gotten some things wrong. I recommend that you read through the article and look at the changes I made to be sure that the article is factually correct and that the sentences convey the intended meaning. Let me know if you need further help with this article. Corinne (talk) 00:34, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

@Mhhossein: Copy-edit done.Saff V. (talk) 08:00, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Good, thank you Corinne & Saff V.. Mhhossein (talk) 10:47, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

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Toddy1 You must add your reference in the talk page and then edit the article. Your source has POV and is not reliable source for battle of Karbala. for this reason, I reverted your edit but you reverted again. I think that you want to start edit war. Your information about battle of Karbala is incomplete. Please revert your edit until discusses and then edit the article.Saff V. (talk) 08:55, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Hey Toddy1, You must selected keep vote

I have tried to keep the article in a decent state since December 2011.[1] I have not tried to rewrite the article, merely to clean it up. I think subdivision of the article in 2011 was better than the one today (though it needed explaining). I put in the numbering, so that readers could see that the number of people allegedly killed was a lot more than the 72 mentioned by Tabari.

Toddy1 The current style has not many different with old version. Please say you reason for old version.Saff V. (talk) 09:15, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

The big problem of the current list is category 1.2, which has a lot of names in no obvious order. The December 2011 version had lots of small categories, which helped people find information.

Current breakdown of the list

1.1 Descendants of Banu Hashim

1.1.1 Descendants of Ali ibn Abi Talib

1.1.1.1 Sons of Ali ibn Abi Talib

1.1.1.2 Sons of Hassan ibn Ali

1.1.1.3 Sons of Husayn ibn Ali ibn Abi Talib

1.1.1.4 Sons of Abbas ibn Ali

1.1.2 Descendants of Ja'far ibn Abi Talib

1.1.3 Sons of Aqeel ibn Abi Talib

1.2 Army of Husayn ibn Ali (these are not Banu Hashim)

December 2011 breakdown of the list

1 Descendants of Abu Talib

1.1 Descendants of Ali ibn Abu Talib

1.2 Descendants of Ali's brothers

2 Casualties from the Bani Asad clan

3 Casualties from the Banu Hamdan clan

4 Casualties from the Jahni

5 Ansari casualties

6 Bijli and Khas-ami

7 Kindi and Ghaffari

8 Kalbi

9 Azdi

10 Tai and Taymi

11 Abdi

12 Taghleebi

13 Jahani and Tameemi

14 Others

15 Miscellaneous deaths

16 Those who joined the Imam from the enemy army

One solution to the problem would be to reinstate categories for present section 1.2. Another solution would be to turn the whole list into a sortable Wikitable.-- Toddy1 (talk) 20:32, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

However, of late, I have had enough of the tendentious editing of POV-warriors who refuse to allow articles to have a neutral POV. So I commented, but did not say keep or delete.

If you were interested, you could make the list a lot better. The most obvious thing to do would be to say which sources list which people. If you look at the current citations, some of them are rubbish and do not support the information. The only really reliable source on the battle is Tabari. So why does the article not cite him for the names that he mentions? Another thing the article should be doing is saying how each man died, if mentioned in a reliable source like Tabari.

Toddy1 Can you add Tabari?Add Tabari believed that 72 person was killed in the battle. It is very good source.Saff V. (talk) 09:15, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

You might also ask why does the article on Husayn ibn Ali not mention criticism of him. For example: he was a racist, he did not understand politics, and he split his community.-- Toddy1 (talk) 09:05, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Possible format for sortable Wikitable.-- Toddy1 (talk) 20:32, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Name	Grouping	Tabari	Kitab al-Irshad	AK Ahmed	GA Mirza	Comments	Source
		mentions this person
Andrew ibn Bill	Sons of Bill ibn Charles	Y	N	N	Y	a half-brother of Dave ibn Bill. Beheaded by Earl ibn Fred	[1][2]
		N	N	N	N
		N	N	N	N
		N	N	N	N
		N	N	N	N
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References

1. Cite error: The named reference Tabari-195 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
2. Cite error: The named reference Mirza-666 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

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Could you please extend your expert opinion in deletion discussion on this page Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ali Shanawar. Nannadeem (talk) 12:54, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Nannadeem I think that is better the article merge in to the Noha article. There are not sufficient reliable source.Saff V. (talk) 13:15, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. You may offer your finding at the deletion discussion, please. Nannadeem (talk) 13:18, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

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You are making a small mistake in format when you reply on talk pages. For example in this case you did exactly the same number of indentations. When you reply please indent one more step than the post that you are replying to.-- Toddy1 (talk) 10:49, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

It is important matter. Thanks Saff V. (talk) 10:55, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

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Ustad Husayn Ansarian

Are you able to read Farsi? If you are, please could you consider writing a biographical article about Ayatollah Ustad Husayn Ansarian. I had never heard of him before I started checking sources used in the article on Mujeer Du'a‎. He was clearly important, and it would improve Wikipedia to have an article on him.-- Toddy1 (talk) 20:24, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

@Toddy1: Yes, I can read Farsi and Persian is my native language. Please say to consider.Saff V. (talk) 05:50, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

That is excellent. Please write the article.-- Toddy1 (talk) 09:04, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Write an article about Ayatollah Ustad Husayn Ansarian?Saff V. (talk) 09:11, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Yes. Please could you write an article about Ayatollah Ustad Husayn Ansarian.-- Toddy1 (talk) 21:51, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

He has an article in the Wikipedia and will complete and edit it.Saff V. (talk) 08:27, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Your reply is required

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Ali on OTD

Sorry, but Ali already appears on WP:Selected anniversaries/January 29 (his assassination date), so we can't include the date of birth, especially since it also appears that Sunnis do not celebrate it. Regards, —howcheng {chat} 16:09, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

@Howcheng: Thanks for informing me but I can't find out why it appears on January 29?!Saff V. (talk) 06:11, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

It looks like I moved it to January 26 and switched the blurb to use Assassination of Ali instead. So I suppose we could have used the article after all. Sorry about that. —howcheng {chat} 06:36, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

I now understand the problem. According to the Islamic calendar, the Assassination of Ali is on 21 Ramadan and as you know, this event changes every year. In other words, 21 Ramadan coincides on June 6 in 2018, also it coincided on June 16 in 2017.

In addition, I nominated Ali for OTD of March 31 because in Iran the birthday of Ali is celebrated as Father's Day.Saff V. (talk) 07:18, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Well, the assassination is not a holiday, so it stays fixed to the same date each year. I guess next year, birth of Ali will be March 20. —howcheng {chat} 15:42, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Yes, Your guess is true, But the assassination is a holiday in IRAN. on the other hand, I have two questions. first, why was the nominating Ali for his birthday and actually father's day in Iran failed?Second, what should we do with events that are not same in the calendar of Iran and calendar of Iraq? For example, Ashura is 20 sep (2018) in Iran and is 21 sep (2018) in Iraq. To nominating Ashura as OTD, which calendar is the base? Saff V. (talk) 05:19, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

@Howcheng: Can I ask you guide me about above problem?Tanks. Saff V. (talk) 08:38, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

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@Mhhossein: such as the brilliant and useful point. Thanks! Saff V. (talk) 11:34, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

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Hello Saff V. Since I had to close an edit warring complaint about People's Mujahedin of Iran recently, I've been looking at RfCs on the talk page to see how far they got. Check out this RfC about 'violent' that you opened on 14 October. The comments so far suggest a slight inclination to remove 'violent', but there is no activity on this RfC since 16 October. If you don't think anyone else will comment, do you want to propose that this get closed by an uninvolved person, for instance at WP:AN/RFC? But if some movement is still possible, can you propose a more targeted rewording that would enlist support from the other side? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 16:34, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

@EdJohnston:, I really appreciate you for helping me to solve the issue and apologize for the delay in response. Would you explaine about " a more targeted rewording that would enlist support from the other side " and how should I conduct it? Regards.Saff V. (talk) 07:25, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

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Thank you for the information. I truthfully forgot it but try to follow it more carefully.Saff V. (talk) 06:41, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

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MEK's military operations against Iran

Stefka Bulgaria is suggesting to add non-trivial information regarding the MEK group. As far as I see, MEK's military invasions against Iran, which is certainly of importance to this article, is not well covered in the article. Please consider that they sided with Saddam Hussain during Iran-Iraq war and carried out several military operations against Iran. Do you have enough time working on them? (Sorry, I'm running short of time :( ). --Mhhossein ^talk 11:15, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

@Mhhossein:By all means, it is a brilliant idea. I won't let you down and will do little by little.Saff V. (talk) 06:55, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

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@Stefka Bulgaria: Whether or not you're going to accept your hounding, I had to warn you before going to ANI. This would be a wise act on your part to stop your harassment and hounding. Regards!Saff V. (talk) 08:02, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

@Saff V.: It wouldn't be the first time you've made a false accusation against me, which in itself would constitute harassment. Consider this a warning as well. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 08:11, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Khomeini on OTD Feb 1

Hi, you wanted to feature Ruhollah Khomeini's return to Iran on Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/February 1 this year. However, if we do that, we won't be putting Iranian Revolution in for February 11 because we do not run multiple articles on the same topic very close to each other. Since this is the 40th anniversary of the revolution, I would think that the other article is more important this year, which means that I will take Khomeini's return out. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 09:19, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

@Howcheng:, You are right, the 40th anniversary of the revolution is a brilliant reason for nomination the Iranian Revolution on February 11 and putting out others in related.Saff V. (talk) 09:56, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

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@Cwmhiraeth: such a brilliant point! Thanks!Saff V. (talk) 06:20, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

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Please STOP. You are editing in one of the most volatile areas of the encyclopedia and I have precisely zero confidence that you have enough competency. Their's weird synthesis; weird language and what not. ∯WBG^converse 14:15, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

for your information, Picking up unsourced material is nothing to do with POV.Regards!Saff V. (talk) 06:26, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

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Khums

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I went through the article Khums recently copy edited by a new member of the Guild of Copy Editors. I fixed a number of issues with the wording, fonts, and Wikilinks etc... One thing I did notice is that the citations are inconsistent and really need some work. In the "India" section I used this incredibly useful tool https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ProveIt ProveIt and fixed a couple of the citations. When you select the template, Journal, for example it automatically places the article in quotation marks and the journal name in italics etc... You might want to install it an go through the citations and fix them.

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MEK designation as terrorist organization

Hi Saff, Many thanks for this new article. It seems, however, that most of the contents of the article is already covered in another article. Your new creation does not seem to be an article split, but rather a WP:POVFORK. You are welcome to work on the main article if you believe the contents presented there is unbalanced. Pls also see WP:SPLIT on creation of article splits. _pseudonym Jake Brockman ^talk 09:05, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

@Jake Brockman:, I am confused! You merged my article just a moment after its creation. As you mentioned, splitting or merging needs to knowing other user opinions. The subject is notable and will be developed, why do you say it covers material from another article without giving time!Saff V. (talk) 10:15, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

The new article would have been in scope of criteria for speedy deletion WP:A10 as it "does not expand upon, detail or improve information within any existing article(s) on the subject". In addition, it changes the point of view of the existing section. Such point of view forks should be resolved by engaging with existing editors in the existing article. _pseudonym Jake Brockman ^talk 10:27, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

@Jake Brockman: You immediately deleted this notable subject and well sourced material based on A10, while  by adding new material to existing article, it would become long and split would be needed! It's not normal to my eyes that you delete it because of “it changes the point of view of the existing section”. what is the problem with the changing?you don’t engage discussion to let us enjoy other users opinion rather than lay on just your idea.Saff V. (talk) 11:56, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

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Anniversary of Khomeini's death

Hi, we have the anniversary of Khomeini's death listed in the holidays/observances section of Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/June 4, but there is nothing in the article that says this day is a holiday. Can you please add that in? Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 01:26, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

@Howcheng:Yes of course. Are you OK with this?I will expand the section during next days with cited sources. Saff V. (talk) 08:24, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

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