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CongratulationsOn the AHS Centaur article passing its A-class review. It's well deserved. --Nick Dowling 08:56, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Image copyright problem with Image:Milsonspointstationsyd.JPG Thank you for uploading Image:Milsonspointstationsyd.JPG. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. (ESkog)(Talk) 18:45, 23 May 2007 (UTC) RE:AHS Centaur reflistHey, im pretty sure the code is correct it shows up as two for me, try purging your server cache, if that doesn't work let me know. Hossen27 00:51, 30 May 2007 (UTC) nits bvol 2ok... >>>Dropping 1938 and 1941. I am confised as to where they are, and where they should be dropped from. Care to whack a block of text in front of me? again this was a reader reaction not an editor reaction, the initial summary is shoved full of info. So much so that i found myself trying to skim out a few less critical details. those details are covered extremely well in the paragraphs below, so i would think we could do without those dates for sure. so much happened in her history i'm not sure how much more tightening the introduction to her story could stand. read the paragrph without it and if you don't agree ignore the suggestion..
>>>Australian Hospital Ship (AHS) Centaur[I] was a hospital ship during World War II, which was attacked and sunk by a Japanese submarine in 1943. Of the 332 medical personnel and crew aboard, 268 died. The Scottish-built vessel was launched in 1924 as a combination passenger liner/freighter, and operated a trade route between Western Australia and Singapore via the island of Java, carrying passengers, cargo, and livestock.
and the bottom of the article? the last paragraph has every date linked. the last line i typical >>>>It was removed in 1992 to make way for a display related to the Vietnam War.[107] LINKED i might suggest the compromise of not linking any year that stands alone, and linking all dates of "month, day, year", format. in some sense it looks like that may have been something attempted at one time, as many of the early unlinked dates eventually link when they show up in a full format. but then there are some dates linked twice in the back-to-back sentences while other places that is avoided. >>>>The media were notified of Centaur's sinking on May 17, 1943, but were ordered not to release the news until it had been announced in Parliament by Prime Minister John Curtin.[71] This announcement was made on the afternoon of May 17.[72] both linked!
i also think a few commas could stand removal. and on the "two peoples seperated by a common language front" the 60 minutes here have 'stories', while newspapers have 'articles', so i had to re-read that sentence the first time though. that is not something that should be change if the originating version of 60 minutes refers to its pieces as 'articles'. realisitcally i liked it, i'd be happy to see it featured (shame it missed last month where certain days would make it more appropriatly featured). and the points i did make were literally small enough that i did decide they didnt even merit a discussion of the disccusion section of the article itself :) always willing to nit pick past the usefullness for it to be done, but ultimately if none of this is helpfull, ignore immediately.
grrrri messed up so had to stop to figure out what i accidently deleted:) i did manage to pull a few commas and do even less unsavory things for about a third of the article. if it was unhelpful let me know and i wont do any more. two things though... the austrialian pound linkage appears broken (and not because of me i think) and this phrase... >>>>unable to deal with the quantity and the injuries of the casualties
perhaps even "ovrwhelmed by the quantity of the casualties" and just remove the injuries part? oh well sback to the hockey game....
other than that, a few more commas and stuff. tried to keep the same tense in a few sentences. a bit rough during some of the compound ones... oh well. ducks win the cup :) Childhoodtrauma 02:26, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
anyway raaf, if pronounced, you are right (and one of the reasons i left it "a" and then asked). looked similar to RAF (royal air force) so i assumed it was pronounced R-A-A-F as raf is pronounced R-A-F. my bad. I'll destroy another section in a day or two...Childhoodtrauma 03:05, 7 June 2007 (UTC) AHS Centaur syntax issueHey, there seems to be a syntax error in the in-line citations causing them to not register in the reference list. I got too frustrated not being able to finding it so hopefully you can. Hossen27 08:33, 7 June 2007 (UTC) bad day at black rocklost the entire update i was working on. will try to remember th main ones i had written about. may have missed one or something i edited and gave a reason for. sorry... got to memorials (yea almost the end, but i am really fried lol)
left as is although i think i'd prefer something like : The initially ordered conversion was performed... basically the opening makes it sound as if the conversion was not taking place, only ordered, until the end of the sentence and we catch up it had been a fait accompli
>>>>>>>During the investigation many of the Japanese officers who had commanded submarines in Australian waters were interrogated, including Nakagawa on three seperate occasions. perhaps two sentences would work there? during the...... interrogated. Nakadawa was interviewed three seperate times. as is, it sounds a bit like all officers might have been talked to three times. i left it alone though >>>>>>>>>>>>These submarines attacked or sunk almost 50 merchant vessels, with 20 sinkings confirmed to be the result of a Japanese attack, and an additional 9 unconfirmed. I think this might go better with just "attacked almost 50", then going with the 20 sinkings. "or" just seems a weird word there and makes the inital math seem funky until you realise, 50 is ATTACKED. 20 plus 9 is SUNK. and "and" is just incorrect. something like : These submarines attacked nearly 50 merchant vessels and sunk at least 20 of them. >>>>>>>>>>The finding was reported on A Current Affair, during which film of the shipwreck 170 metres underwater, which was claimed by discoverer Donald Dennis had been checked by the Navy, the Queensland Maritime Museum, and the Australian War Memorial to establish the identity of the vessel.
The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue XV (May 2007)The May 2007 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. This is an automated delivery by grafikbot 15:51, 9 June 2007 (UTC) Fly GibraltarI see you added an AfD message and then removed it. There is no evidence that this 'airline' exists, there is no certainly no mention of it on the website of Astraeus, who are a real operator. The CAA do not list it, and their licencing department say they know nothing about it. So much for 'we are waiting to be licenced'. A prominent person in the trade here commented 'Smoke and Mirrors' which I found rather amusing as that was my view. I don't think imaginary airlines are good for either Gibraltar or Wikipedia. However, I need a hand to get rid of it ! --Gibnews 22:39, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
last onesaw you removed 'unanswered' peer reviews. it that a bad thing? obviously not much to look at, did a few things, most destructive was changing a sentence i didnt like into this "The centrepiece of the display was a scale model of Centaur, presented by Blue Funnel Line that included several items that were donated for display by the survivors, such as a lifejacket, a signal flare, and a medical kit. " actually i'm pretty sure the ',' after survivors needs to still go. the original, and this modified version seem to assume the display items from the survivors were part of the scale model centerpiece (whihc is possible depending what the scale of the model was). if they were part of the display but NOT the centerpiece, the sentence needs to probably be something like The centrepiece of the display was a scale model of Centaur, presented by Blue Funnel Line. The Display included several items that were donated by the survivors such as a lifejacket, a signal flare, and a medical kit.
also was reading random stupid stuff and came across the date discussion, according to that, an editor whom should know listed the manual of style as saying not to link years alone, but lways like full dates. which is what i think was the basic stance you decided was appropriate anyway. just nice to be "right" lol. Childhoodtrauma 23:14, 12 June 2007 (UTC) Re: AHS Centaur... FAC?I think that you should go for it. The article looks great and I think that it would have an excellent chance of passing the FAR. --Nick Dowling 09:41, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Bathurst classHi, I just noticed that you have 'Infobox Ship templating and Multiple Wikiproject templating of every single Bathurst class corvette' in your to-do list. When I wrote the HMAS Wagga article I found that the stats on Wagga's size and speed on the Seapower Centre - Australia website slightly differed from those in the Bathurst class infobox, so this may need to be either updated or tweaked for each ship (as the Bathursts were built over several years in several shipyards I imagine that there were some differences between units). --Nick Dowling 10:54, 15 June 2007 (UTC) FormattingHello... sorry, but I had to revert your changes at Minutes to Midnight (disambiguation). As per the style guide, song titles and television episode titles are put in quotation marks, while album titles and television series titles are italicized. Cheers. --Ckatzchatspy 22:36, 21 June 2007 (UTC) Re: Attack on Sydney HarbourI think that it looks fantastic. I'd suggest that you start uploading parts of it to the main article. --Nick Dowling 10:40, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
HelloHi Saberwyn, seems we have some things in common, being both ex-Normo and naval buffs. I was a seaman officer in the RAN and Merchant Navies for 29 years. I also note a pleasing grammatical pedantry on your part. If I can help with any naval articles or whatever, give a shout. Rumiton 10:18, 4 July 2007 (UTC) Middle-earth in popular culture - pre-DRV request notificationHi there. I'm leaving a courtesy note to let you know that I am asking the closing admin to reconsider Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Middle-earth in popular culture. My arguments are laid out at User talk:Coredesat#Middle-earth in popular culture - pre-DRV request. As you took part in the original AfD, I'm notifying you so that you can add your opinion, either there or later if it goes to DRV. Thanks. Carcharoth 11:58, 5 July 2007 (UTC) The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue XVI (June 2007)The June 2007 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. This is an automated delivery by grafikbot 14:48, 8 July 2007 (UTC) Replaceable fair use Image:Necronimmortals.jpgThanks for uploading Image:Necronimmortals.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:
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Childhoodtrauma 18:21, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
On a quick pass, I think you got everything. There are so many dashes and hyphens in there, it's hard to tell :-) Congrats on the FA ! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:00, 15 August 2007 (UTC) re:X-WingHi. For examples, I recommend Star Destroyer, TIE fighter, and Snowspeeder (I'm also working on a sandbox for a general Walker article). For sources, I recommend those, as well as the StarWars.com databank, which has sections on the movies, EU, and "behind the scenes". Also, if you can find any real-world content (or major appearances/features left out) on the examples above from the sources you have, please add it to the articles so they have a better chance of reaching WP:GA. Thanks. — Deckiller 23:09, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
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The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XVIII (August 2007)The August 2007 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Delivered by grafikbot 10:10, 5 September 2007 (UTC) attack on sydney harbourreread this entry a few times today (finally, sorry for the delay). Other than the typical thought that there may be too many commas, i didnt find a single of import thing that i wanted to change. the cleanup of the pronoun at the bigging was effective and looked like it removed a minimal of words. really nice job. the only only only thing that had me pausing at all was the lead line of the main body of the article "Six submarines of the Imperial Japanese Navy were to be used in the attack on Sydney Harbour"
really nicly done.. Childhoodtrauma 18:32, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Fremantle class patrol boatHello. I believe your addition [2] of a non-breaking space to the Fremantle class patrol boat article was an accident, so I reverted [3] it due to the fact that it broke the link in question. --Kralizec! (talk) 16:41, 10 September 2007 (UTC) Disputed fair use rationale for Image:HMAS melbourne 2 crest.gifThanks for uploading Image:HMAS melbourne 2 crest.gif. However, there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please read the instructions at Wikipedia:Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page. If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 04:38, 1 October 2007 (UTC) The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XIX (September 2007)The September 2007 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Delivered by grafikbot 10:25, 8 October 2007 (UTC) Image copyright problem with Image:Rotormidcyclelunapraksyd.JPGThank you for uploading Image:Rotormidcyclelunapraksyd.JPG. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. —Angr 18:27, 16 October 2007 (UTC) Orphaned non-free media (Image:Interdictorcruiser.jpg)
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Cheers, Daniel 11:30, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
--Daniel Case (talk) 14:51, 27 January 2008 (UTC) The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXI (November 2007)The November 2007 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. AdminHi. I just wondered if you've considered becoming an admin. You seem experienced enough, so I'd be willing to nominate you if you're interested. Regards. Epbr123 (talk) 21:38, 18 December 2007 (UTC) HMAS MelbourneHi, The Flikr photoset I pulled 3 photos of Melbourne out of is at: http://flickr.com/photos/11360033@N04/sets/72157603350030732/ and has other images you might want to consider - though the quality isn't great. I stupidly uploaded the small versions of the images, and not the large version. User:Saberwyn/HMAS Melbourne (R21) is looking fantastic. --Nick Dowling (talk) 09:29, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks and Happy New YearFirstly, let me wish you a very happy New Year and thank you for all your help in the Milhist Tag & Assess 2007 drive.
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RE:Sources in Through the Fire and FlamesThanks for the clarification I changed it to just that Totman is seen drinking in the video which seems obvious. It also looks like the label is intentionally obscured in the video. My main concern is that I see a lot of citation needed tags that are ambiguous. The note seemed like it wanted a source that mentions wether or not Totman was drinking and not that the citation is needed as to what is being drunk in the video.--Chinakow (talk) 19:15, 27 January 2008 (UTC) Redirect in User:Saberwyn/Bathurst class corvetteHi. I've been fixing erroneous references to Australia in the War of 1939–1945 and eliminating redirects to this article via Official History of Australia in the War of 1939–1945. One of these redirects is in User:Saberwyn/Bathurst class corvette; but as this article resides in your user space, I'll let you eliminate it. Thanks. R. A. Hicks (talk) 23:11, 27 January 2008 (UTC) Barnstar
Battle Cougar A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Battle Cougar, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the Melbourne/EvansThanks for the note—I'll take a look at it soon. If I haven't gotten to it in a few days, please do remind me; I'm in the midst of several FA reviews but I don't want to forget you. Thanks. Maralia (talk) 00:31, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
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Pacific class patrol boatHi, I've recently created an article on the Pacific class patrol boats which you might be interested in. --Nick Dowling (talk) 10:56, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
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If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BJBot (talk) 19:39, 6 March 2008 (UTC) Photos for HMAS Melbourne articleI have been going through some old negatives and have found a few that might be uuseful for the Melbourne article. As you know I have alread put up a couple that are on there, but I have some more (actually I have lots, but let's not over do this) - it takes my scanner a very long time to scan the negs at a reasonable resolution, so I will only be putting them up slowly, but I notice that most of the photos in the articel are from early service, so I will chuck in what I have got. Currently I am scanning a photo of a tracker on the catapault and I have one of a tracker just launched, not sure which one will prove to be the best, wait and see. I think I have a photo of the DDG HMAS Brisbane taken at sea, if I find that, I will look to see if there is an article for that ship. Anyway, just pluggin away. The Melbourne article is looking pretty good to me at the moment. Nick Thorne talk 13:35, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
spacingThanks, i know i messed it up, but on the edit window i couldn't see what to do to fix it.--Cube lurker (talk) 03:29, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
New! BCAD drive from MilhistCan I invite you to particpate in our new assessment drive? It's strictly for experienced editors and has a degree of friendly competition built-in. It involves re-evaluating around 3500 Milhist B-Class articles to ensure they match our new criteria. As ever, we're offering a range of awards as our way of expressing our thanks. The drive doesn't start until 18:00 (UTC) on March 10 but you can sign up in advance here. It would be great if you can spare the time, --ROGER DAVIES talk 05:33, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Traker wingtip clearanceHi there, don't be too upset about the issue of the clearance, Hall did not say the superstructure but I can see how this could easily be interpreted as what he meant. Who lnows where he got his info from, and maybe he even thought it was to the island anyway. Even the new wording in the Melbourne article would probably be interpreted as meaning to the island by most readers. Unfortunately I have not yet been able to find source that lists the correct clearance to the island, if I do manage to find one, then I will alter tha article to show both figures and give a more complete picture of the reality of it. The fact is, things were damn tight on Melbourne, she was not designed to operate the aircraft we were using on her and I have to admit it did give us an enormous sense of pride to achieve what we did on the old lady. Nick Thorne talk 21:19, 11 March 2008 (UTC) Passed A-class review. Well done. Blnguyen (vote in the photo straw poll) 07:01, 12 March 2008 (UTC) Re: Image query - HMAS Melbourne's bellI took the photo at the Navy Heritage Centre in Sydney. I also took a photo of the ship's anchor which is on the Commons page, but can't figure out where it fits in the article. The bell is arguably more important anyway, as ship's bells are considered a key symbol of the ship. --Nick Dowling (talk) 10:56, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
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I relaise that second award is a little preemptive, but I believe that your article will go featured sometime during the work week, and I have school work to see to, so I am giving you this award now so you can reveal in it when Melborne does go featured :-) TomStar81 (Talk) 05:58, 16 March 2008 (UTC) Re: Fire and FlamesProbably. ---Torchflame (talk) 22:55, 17 March 2008 (UTC) the permanent campaign to reduce or eliminate excess noncontributory verbiageGlad you agree. I find in particular that a sentence containing "the fact that" can nearly always be improved. —Tamfang (talk) 00:04, 19 March 2008 (UTC) HMAS Melbourne FAC attemptHi, I am done for the moment. I have been mostly trying to just pick on small things, I do not think we have conflicted so far. If I spy any typos or other minor things like that, I may still nick in for a quick edit, but I will avoid editing the entire article and stick to section edits, that way we are unlikely to cross swords, so to speak. I see my role as entirely supportive of your efforts, the only reason that I have not made a comment on the FAC page is that I consider myself a substantive contributor tot he article and so consider myself inelligible. Nick Thorne talk 00:46, 19 March 2008 (UTC) I do have a couple verticle photos of Melbourne, the full photo of the one that I used in the wingtip clearance does not quite include the bow of the ship. I do have another one that I found just recently that I took at the same time, but I have not yet scanned the neg and I am not sure just how good it is. Most of these I had previously only seen after getting them printed commercially years ago and some of them which were pretty ordinary in the print have scanned up very well. I'll scan the new one and I can also give you a copy of the other. Would you like me to email them first so you can see if they are suitable for what you want? Might take me a day or two, I'm in the middle of an epic clean up here. It's amazing how much junk you can collect over the years! Nick Thorne talk 09:13, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
CPINo problem, but let's keep a look out for these data—they must be somewhere. Tony (talk) 00:41, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
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Well done that man!Bravo Zulu for your work in getting the HMAS Melbourne article to FA. A magnificent effort. Nick Thorne talk —Preceding comment was added at 14:31, 21 March 2008 (UTC) multirefsI always hate seeing 30 refs with only 21 sources. As a matter of opinion do you think named ref links(<ref name="Larry">[Larry.com Larry Page]</ref>)should be the first refence, the last refernce, or a middle reference? --Lemmey (talk) 13:24, 26 March 2008 (UTC) List of Bathurst class corvettesIs it OK for me to add items to this list on your user page? (I hope so, as I've just added about 8 ships!) --Nick Dowling (talk) 07:25, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXV (March 2008)The March 2008 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. No problem!Hey. Sorry, not sure how to send messages on wiki yet. No problem about the article though. I hate seeing false information.WTFitsRacerD (talk) 07:30, 3 April 2008 (UTC) BadgesI've always found the infobox an odd place for images. It lends itself perfectly well to an official textual description, as at HMS Arrow (H42) but I think it looks a bit out of place in the infobox, especially when it displays halfway in the box. On the other hand it seems a nice illustrative feature to lift out and bring a little prominence to in the introductory section. At the moment its a standard applied to all of the S, T and U classes that have badges, so I wouldn't really be in favour of piecemeal changes that break that convention. I understand what you mean about the risk of pinching the text, but it doesn't seem to me to be that much of an issue. There's also cases where a ship has had two badges, in which case a badge can illustrate the appropriate sections, but would rather overwhelm the infobox. Benea (talk) 11:30, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Cardiff reviewNope, not harsh at all, in fact thanks for contributing some good ideas, I'll action them soon. Let me action some of your ideas first, before you go to "town" (ooh er misses, be gentle, I've been nurturing this baby for 2 n half months) on the article, and I've also updated the review. P.S. Sorry for the late reply I was called away for a day Ryan4314 (talk) 14:06, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi mate, I expanded the TC-92 (and Dagger attack) sections as promised, would you mind giving them a quick C/E, cheers. Ryan4314 (talk) 14:07, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
News! Tag & Assess 2008 is coming ...Milhist's new drive – Tag & Assess 2008 – goes live on April 25 and you are cordially invited to participate. This time, the task is housekeeping. As ever, there are awards galore, plus there's a bit of friendly competition built-in, with a race for bronze, silver and gold wikis! You can sign up, in advance, here. I look forward to seeing you on the drive page! All the best, --ROGER DAVIES talk 13:17, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
HMS Cardiff Featured Article CandidateHello, this is a generic message, as a contributor to a previous review of HMS Cardiff, you may be interested to know that I plan to submit her for an FA review. Would you mind taking a quick look at the article and letting me know if you think it's ok, would be muchly appricated, cheers. Ryan4314 (talk) 13:06, 29 April 2008 (UTC) The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXVI (April 2008)The April 2008 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Eye Witness AccountHi Saberwyn, Yes, after further reading the guidelines I understand that the material doesn't qualify as being professionally published. But, sure, I'm appending the account here; perhaps it would be useful to the Australian naval archives. Not that it matters, but I'm a journalist and novelist, having spent most of my career until recently as a writer and editor of narratives for Page One of The Wall Street Journal. I moved over a couple of years ago to a magazine. I'd actually once pitched a nonfiction book in which I wanted to retrace my dad's wartime Pacific trek to see what had become of the places he landed on, Engebi and Guam among them. I didn't get a bite back then but I haven't totally given up on the idea. This is the account of William Rexford Wells, at the time a private first class serving as a captain's aide aboard the USS Chicago. Wells had joined the Marines right out of high school in the fall of 1940, underwent bootcamp at the Marine Corps Recruit Depot in San Diego and entered Sea School after bootcamp. He was assigned to Pearl Harbor and shipped out to Pearl aboard a gasoline tanker in February 1941 and reported for duty aboard the Chicago on February 26. The Chicago was out to sea on exercises during the infamous raid on Pearl; by the time of the Battle of Sydney Harbor, Wells had also served as a machine gunner during the Battle of the Coral Sea. The Wells Account: The Battle of Sydney Harbor is not mentioned in history books that describe the Battle of Waterloo or the Battle of Gettysburg. The only reference I know of is in Admiral Samuel Morrison's “History of Naval Operations,” Volume IV. A pitched battle was fought within the confines of Sydney Harbor by the USS Chicago and the destroyer USS Perkins against two Japanese submarines. Let’s first go back a little. After joining the Australian Task Force, Major Spencer Burger, the C.O. of the Marine detachment on board, decided one of his Marines should learn something about Navy signaling. I was “volunteered” for the job, so for four hours a day I trained on the signal bridge with Navy signalmen to learn semaphore and blinker lights. Learning semaphore was easy, and within a short time I could send and receive reasonably well. The blinker lights, a Morse code, were a different story. I couldn't practice on the bridge, so what I learned was self-taught with a flashlight in front of a mirror below decks. I did learn the code, but never got very good at sending or receiving. I could read perhaps four or five letters in a row – and then miss the next few. This would turn out to be of some help in the Battle of Sydney Harbor. After the Coral Sea battle, we returned to Sydney where the Chicago went into dry dock for minor repairs. Two weeks in dry dock in Sydney Harbor was a serviceman’s dream. “Port” and “starboard” liberty was in force, with half of the ship's crew going ashore one day and the other half the next. By now, I had been promoted to the rank of corporal, and my pay was a little higher. When we came out of dry-dock, the other ships in our task force were on patrol, so we would wait for their return. Our ship was anchored about one-half mile from the Sydney bridge that crosses the harbor, with the destroyer Perkins between the bridge and us. The Chicago’s bow was toward the bridge, not toward the harbor entrance. On the night of May 31, 1942, I had duty as corporal of the guard on the 8 till midnight shift. A boatswain’s mate, the officer of the deck, and I looked forward to a dull, boring watch. Half of the crew was ashore, and, though liberty boats ran every hour on the hour, the only crewmen returning were those who were dead drunk, dead broke or both. Our watch was the deck amidships where the gangway was; also there were six dim lights so men could find their way below. I had gone on duty at 2000 hours (8 p.m.) and, as I expected, it was dull and boring. A Dutch submarine was tied up to an old ferryboat that had been converted into a barracks ship, and there the sub’s crew slept. At about 2200 hours the signal lights began blinking as I was leaning over the rail looking toward the harbor entrance. I thought I would see if my signal training would help. I read five letters: “sub en----.” I couldn’t get the rest of the message, but I did tell the officer of the deck that the message contained something about a sub. He dismissed it as “probably one of ours” and we forgot about it. At 2257 hours, I heard what I thought was a liberty boat approaching in the dark on our starboard side. I thought it a little odd, because they generally came around our bow from Garden Island. The craft came into sight under our dim lights. To our amazement, it was a Jap midget submarine! These little boats had been used in the Pearl Harbor attack with no success, and now the Japanese were trying again. We three saw it at the same time and yelled, “Japs!” We went to general quarters with the klaxon horn going full blast and the boats'n mate on the loudspeaker yelling, “Jap sub off the starboard bow."” Men popped from below in their underwear and raced to the guns. All hell broke loose in the middle of Sydney Harbor. The sub was too close to the ship for us to bring the guns to bear on it, and it was submerging. That didn't keep the Marines and sailors from trying. The forward machine guns opened up with .50-caliber slugs ricocheting off the water toward the Sydney Zoo. One slug killed a lion, probably the only one killed by Marines in World War II. A five-inch gun got off one round that also ricocheted over the Sydney suburbs and exploded God knows where. Apparently, there was no damage and no one was hurt. The destroyer Perkins tried to locate the sub with sonar but couldn't. Two Australian corvettes joined the search. At about 30 minutes past midnight, the sub fired two torpedoes which crossed our bow and missed! One ran under the Dutch sub and exploded on the ferryboat where the Dutch sailors were sleeping, killing and wounding several. The other ran onto the beach of Garden Island and failed to explode. A recall went out to the men on liberty, and soon they were arriving in droves. At 0215 we were ordered out of the harbor. We got under way and, with the Perkins leading the way, cleared the harbor with approximately one-fourth of our crew ashore, hoping we had abandoned them until after the war. We stayed at sea until 1430 on June 1 and returned to pick up the rest of our crew. Two midget subs were located by Australian corvettes; whether the crews committed suicide or not was never known. After the war, Japanese naval officers claimed four midgets were launched from mother subs, but only two were ever accounted for by either side. The Battle of Sydney Harbor was over. The score: one lion killed, two Japanese subs destroyed, and an unknown number of Dutch sailors killed or wounded. The Australians raised one sub and put it on display; we had to pay admission to see it. The netcutter on the warhead of the second torpedo was mounted on a plaque and presented to the captain and crew of the Chicago. It hung in the captain's passageway and went down with the ship in '43. Admiral Morrison's description of the battle is fairly accurate, except in one detail. He claimed the sub was sighted 300 to 400 yards on the starboard side of the Chicago, but 20 yards would be more accurate. I could have hit it with a baseball. We didn’t get a battle star for this one, but we sure raised hell for a few minutes. Jaxnandy (talk) 15:19, 7 May 2008 (UTC) Ark RoyalSorry, I meant to get back to you sooner. I got caught up with preparatory work on HMS Ganges (shore establishment). When you'll read it you might get some idea! It's an utter nightmare as to which ship was going by which name at which stage! I agree with what you say in essence. The main stumbling point for me is the citations/unit conversions sort of thing. I love writing articles but get all bogged down on the little formatting details, where I really am quite out of my depth. Feel free to mess about with the sinking section. I know in detail what happened, but of the course the downside is that it tends to read fine to me, but the general reader would be confused. Any help here would be much appreciated! Also thanks for your very kind words! In a way Ark Royal's tragically short career means that everything can be covered in a level of detail in a way that wouldn't be practical in a longer lived ship. I only find it frustrating that the article is being held up by things that read fine to me, but as I'm the author, I can't really put myself in the general reader's shoes and work out how to phrase differently. Don't worry about changes, if I disagree I'll raise it with you but otherwise feel very free to give it a working over. Many thanks, Benea (talk) 22:01, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
The 8 different faces of Luna Park SydneyI've never used one of these talk pages, so I'm sorry if I don't follow the rules about signing off etc. But I really really want to see some photos of the 8 different faces of Luna Park Sydney. Do you know where I could see them? Are all 8 photos in that book you mentioned that is for sale in the gift shop at the park? one_sportychick 203.10.55.11 (talk) 03:17, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXVII (May 2008)The May 2008 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Serenity comicsGood work, mate. Just one thing: I think the amount of info for each series should be a bit more succint. I don't think you need entire sections and tables regarding the covers, or plot summaries that are that detailed. Such info belongs more properly in the individual articles. For now it's not a problem, but the article is of considerable length as it is, and if Whedon and Dark Horse continue to make more comics, the article will eventually generate size limits, esp once The Shepherd's Tale debuts. A good example, I think of what such series should look like in a summarization article like this one, when compared to the individual articles, can be seen by comparing The Ultimates 2 or The Ultimates 3 to The Ultimates. Other than that, it looks good. Nice job! Nightscream (talk) 03:30, 3 June 2008 (UTC) I'm not touching you.You've been added to a list of people to avoid. --Samuel Pepys (talk) 06:59, 15 June 2008 (UTC) Ark Royal SquadronsLooks jolly good! Sorry I've been a while in getting back to you, my access is a bit intermittent at the moment, and probably will be until the middle of next week or thereabouts. I'll have a go at writing up some of the redlinks later too. The armaments section currently stands with the design section I think, but I'm not terribly opposed to moving it out and combining the two. I'll see if Jameson has anymore information on that and the squadrons in general. Benea (talk) 17:29, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
AfD nomination of History of the Imperial Guard (Warhammer 40,000) I have nominated History of the Imperial Guard (Warhammer 40,000), an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/History of the Imperial Guard (Warhammer 40,000). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Allemandtando (talk) 22:31, 27 June 2008 (UTC) AfD nomination of Weapons and equipment of the Tau Empire (Warhammer 40,000)I have nominated Weapons and equipment of the Tau Empire (Warhammer 40,000), an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Weapons and equipment of the Tau Empire (Warhammer 40,000). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Allemandtando (talk) 17:01, 1 July 2008 (UTC) The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXVIII (June 2008)The June 2008 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Ark Royal A classCongratulations, its passed A class! Do you think there's anything holding it back from a FA review? Benea (talk) 21:47, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
AfD nomination of Deathwatch (Warhammer 40,000)I have nominated Deathwatch (Warhammer 40,000), an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deathwatch (Warhammer 40,000). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Jaysweet (talk) 16:56, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
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