User talk:Royalbroil/Archive7

A short break

JUST TO LET YOU KNOW...the picture from OCONTO, WI was NOT DOWNTOWN.... just a pic from the highway... you may want to edit that!!!! -JC


Hi- I will be taking a short break. I feel a litte discourage with some recent edits. One of them was with Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz of the Lincoln, Nebraska diocese. Someone put in what I thought was vandalism a paragraph about the sexual abuse scandal & with no citation added at all. Also I reverted changes in the Medford, Wisconsin article about notable people and got reverted. I just found out I was personally attack back in May of 2007 regarding the Medford, WI article. Consequently, I will be taking a short break. Besides, I have some things pertaing to my alma mater my high school this winter.I probably will come back after Monday January 28, 2008. Please send my greetings to the crew at WikiProject Wisconsin especially Users:OrangeMike and Merenta who edits the Waukesha related articles. Most likely I may will return sooner then Monday. Many thanks for your kindness and understanding.RFD (talk) 13:52, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

I have reverted both and given warnings to each of the other parties. The other editor on the Medford, Wisconsin article appears to be doing vanity edits. I didn't see any good edits from the account, and I saw several uncivil comments, so I gave a final warning. The edits to the Bruskewitz clearly violate WP:BLP since they are unsourced and very controversial, so I reverted them. Royalbroil 15:23, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Many thanks for your help and kindness. RFD (talk) 16:43, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
I did not stay away from Wikipedia too long as you can tell. Enjoy the trivia contest in Appleton. I still have Founders Day involving my alma mater Aquinas HS in La Crosse this weekend. I will not be doing too much with Wikipedia during that time.Thanks-RFD (talk) 13:49, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! We were in 34th place at the first checkin at 3:00am, 5 hours into it. I got 4.5 hours of sleep last night. Royalbroil 13:54, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Founders Day at Aquinas HS went well. I started an article about John Catlin. He was acting governor of the Wisconsin territory that was not part of Wisconsin when it was admitted to the union on May 29, 1848. I can not stay away from Wikipedia too long. Thanks-RFD (talk) 21:25, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:NASCAR99CoverArt.jpg

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I don't mess with fair use anymore, so I removed it from the article so it can be deleted easier. Royalbroil 14:50, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hey Royalbroil, I just wanted to say thank you for your kind words and support in my RFA. I was taken back the amount of support I received and will work hard to live up to those expectations. I look forward to working with you in the future, and if you ever need anything, feel free to come and ask!! I hope all is going well.
Gonzo fan2007 talk ♦ contribs 18:09, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Lucien Lagrange Architects

Is Lucien Lagrange Architects ever going to the main page?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 22:51, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

I have 30 hours left in a 50 hour wikibreak while doing a trivia contest. I haven't picked DYK hooks for several days and I won't be doing any for 2 days. I put in my opinion in favor if it gets a minor change on the suggestions page. With it being already 2 days past, I doubt it would be selected. I notice that User:BorgQueen has been updating a lot this past week. Maybe that's who you should talk to. Royalbroil 23:39, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Don't worry, I promoted it already. Gatoclass (talk) 18:12, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Great! 12 hours left in the 2008 Great Midwest Trivia Contest. I'm happy with our results. Royalbroil 18:15, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
After working on DYK all this time, you ought to be an expert at trivia by now! :) Gatoclass (talk) 18:21, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
My trivia interest predates Wikipedia by a long shot (since 1989). This is my 21st trivia contest between 3 contests. Royalbroil 18:27, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK

Updated DYK query On 28 January, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Dick Berggren, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Bookworm857158367 (talk) 01:02, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Updated DYK query On 15 February, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Robin Pemberton, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Daniel Case (talk) 11:09, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi

RU available? You offered a lesson in DYK updating? and its ready now (I think) Victuallers (talk) 12:08, 29 January 2008 (UTC). THx anyway RBroil-Got it now .... I think Victuallers (talk) 17:22, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

AWB

Several times I have found my watchlist glowing with your edits related to combining the various Christian music WikiProjects into one. You should consider getting an Auto Wiki Browser to automate this process. You should easily be here long enough to meet the requirements. You shouldn't need to have anyone vouch for you, but I would if you need it. Royalbroil 21:32, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks I haven't had a chance to really research AWB yet. Since most of the major project edits are done I probably won't be doing a lot of heavy lifting like that for a while. If something else comes up I'll look deeper into it. Thanks again. Absolon S. Kent (talk) 10:57, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Importance Ratings

My only concern is that your rating system is a bit too bottom heavy. Perhaps combine the top two categories into Top Importance, move Mid up to High, and add in a Mid category for extremely important aspects within one of our areas, such as famous bands, or whatever, and let the low importance stuff include the less important bands. I don't think it's right for a band like dc talk or Jars of Clay to be rated as low importance, when it's going to be getting a lot more traffic than a band like Blaster the Rocket Man, and therefore needs to be of a higher quality. -- PEPSI2786talk 03:42, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I would put dc talk and Jars of Clay both at "High" importance because they are well known even to mainstream audiences (especially Jars of Clay). Royalbroil 03:59, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I moved the discussion to the Project's discussion page. Absolon S. Kent (talk) 10:57, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Tarck bike

FYI: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tarck bike. You seemed to think it had promise & might want to fight its corner. --Tagishsimon (talk) 03:38, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for notifying me, but I'll pass at this time. I do think that it deserves its time at AFD. Royalbroil 03:39, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Image

Thanks for deleting it - I just screwed up naming it when I uploaded it from Commons (only my second time updating DYK to the the Main Page and the first time the image was on WP, so I just protected it then). The Archives DYK links to the correct (Commons) version of the image, so it should be fine.

Thanks for doing the DYK update - I saw it was overdue, but had no time to do the notifications (though I would have had time just to copy to the main template and purge the cache). Has there ever been discussion of having a bot do the notices (perhaps with the name of the admin who did the Update given, in case there were questions)? Ruhrfisch ><>°° 15:02, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Having bots to update the template were proposed several times, with the last time here. I don't remember reading a proposal that a bot would do the notifications. It sounds like a good concept. Royalbroil 15:14, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the link. I will try and bring it up on the DYK talk in a day or two, along with the idea to have a "DYK update how to guide" for inexperienced admins - perhaps if there was a clear guide, more admins would help. I also think it would be a place to put information like the script from Lar, and whatever other time saving ideas/tricks people have. Thanks again, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 16:42, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Excellent. Please paste in a link for me so I can help contribute to the discussion. I do find the scripts difficult to run on my relatively slow broadband and on my slower PC. Royalbroil 16:44, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, it is here: Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Suggestions Ruhrfisch ><>°° 05:26, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Brandyn Tracy

Could you please look at the article Brandyn Tracy? I think it should be speedily deleted. It is either a hoax or vanity page. Thank you-RFD (talk) 20:52, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you-RFD (talk) 15:28, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Medford, Wisconsin

You probably need to keep an eye on the Medford, Wisconsin page again. The adding of non notable names. Thank you-RFD (talk) 12:14, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Speaking of Medford, Wisconsin, there has been some question of exactly when the psychic Jeane Dixon was born-1904 or 1918. The CNN obituary said 1918 which I put in as a citation but kept being removed with no comment on the Jeane Dixon talk page. Mrs. Dixon was born in Medford, Wisconsin. Stay tune-Many thanks-RFD (talk) 14:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

User:Oneshotpop

Oh, I have no problem with the block. Good work, Gwernol 03:41, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Robin Pemberton

Thanks for the kind words. It helped that I have a NASCAR expert sitting across the aisle from me here at The Birmingham News sports department. (My beat is high school sports.) - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 00:57, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

re:WikiProject IROC

Just to point out, I have left my comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject IROC#Inactive.2C direction to go as requested, not sure if there is anything else I need to do. Willirennen (talk) 04:26, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

RFA thanks

A Barnstar Thank-You

Thanks for awarding me the Original Barnstar! See my comments about it on my talk page. I was surprised to find it on my talk page this morning! Thanks again! --JamieS93 (talk) 21:47, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Kulwicki

Will do. Could I also ask a favour - could you have a look at Max Mosley - I'd like to know if it's comprehensible to someone who doesn't have a Euro racing background. And indeed any other comments you may have. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 09:12, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Sure, but it probably will take me a several days to get to it. Royalbroil 12:12, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, you were quicker off the mark than I was! It may take me a little time as I'm reconstructing the floor in our spare bedroom (having made a mental note to get the surveyor to do a proper job before I next buy a house!). Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 08:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Extending my thanks to you for your peer review the comments are really useful, it’s always useful to get a fresh pair of eyes! Tommy turrell (talk) 14:48, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Racine Art Museum

Hi! A new article about the Racine Art Museum just came through. I did some editing including adding the museum's website. Would you please take a look at it? I don't know if there was copyright violations or not. It is not my place to make a decision on that. Thank you-RFD (talk) 19:21, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I would expect that everyone looks for copyright violations and deals with them in some way. Royalbroil 19:23, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I could not find any websites where this text was lifted from. I'll assume good faith even though it is fairly well-written. Royalbroil 19:24, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for looking at the aricle. I watch for any new articles that come through that concerns Wisconsin especially the ones about history and geography. Thanks-RFD (talk) 19:36, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

;-P

Thanks. --BorgQueen (talk) 20:56, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

capital Punishment in Wisconsin

I came across an interesting article about Capital punishment in Wisconsin. I added the Wisconsin Historical Society dictionary term and made the article part of WikiProject Wisconsin.Ypu may want to see it-I thought it was a good article, Thank you-RFD (talk) 20:11, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Look who's back causing trouble and a likely lifetime ban...

None other than User:86.4.20.46, and on the NASCAR pages as well, changing the 3M Performance 400 and the June race at Michigan. This man needs to be 86'd from here for life for countless violations IMHO, this is the last straw. NoseNuggets (talk) 6:20 PM US EST Feb 17 2008 —Preceding comment was added at 23:18, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Anons don't get lifetime bans, even when they're bad like this one. There has to be recent vandalism to give a block, for blocks are only given to protect the encyclopedia. Royalbroil 01:02, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Tilleda, Wisconsin

I think you should add the ice skating photo at Tilleda, Wisconsin. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 13:47, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

My apologies-I am getting over from a nasty bout of the flu and probably misread the messege. I like the photos. The store at Waukau, Wisconsin was one of the ones I like. I don't know too muck about car racing- but I am glad the ice is thick enough to hold the weight of the cars. Thanks-RFD (talk) 17:01, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Spears Motorsports

In my book, to wikify means not just to add good links, but to take out the bad ones. I did it myself. Can you find some better cites than their own web site? Bearian (talk) 01:05, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Fond du Lac, Wisconsin

The sentence should be sourced or else be removed. I don't watch that much television and with most of the movies, television shows, sports, etc. I am not familiar with most of them. Semi-protection of the Fond du Lac, Wisconsin is in order-this is an edit war going on. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 14:40, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I look at the Point Place article that this is based upon. The article also claims Kenosha, Wisconsin as well. There was a tag that the Point Place article is from mainly one source and needs to be rewritten with more then one source. Therefore, to resolve the Fond du Lac article edit problems, attention has to be given to the Point Place article as well. Incidentally, I never heard of Point Place until now. Thank you-RFD (talk) 14:47, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I was glad to help out. The Point Place website mentions the program is based upon Green Bay, Wisconsin but it could anywhere in Wisconsin. Whoever, put that in in the Fond du Lac article thought it was that city. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 15:03, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I hope my edits to the three articles involved are appropriate. We're in Hollywood's "Wisconsin" now; remember the Rome, Wisconsin of Picket Fences: the small town with only a couple of lawyers (but its own TV station and big hospital), with the snow-capped mountains visible in the distance? --Orange Mike | Talk 15:27, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
One nice thing about Wikipedia is the WikiProject Wisconsin! We help each other out and providing information about Wisconsin. Thank you-RFD (talk) 15:53, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Abbrev. page

Sorry for taking so long, RL briefly got in the way. --Chr.K. (talk) 15:37, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

SocialPicks

I don't know if you're still watching this article, but would you stop by the AfD page Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/SocialPicks to offer your opinion on whether the article is notable? Thanks. Dimension31 (talk) 00:21, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. I don't know and frankly I don't care. Royalbroil 03:15, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Copy edit swap

Hi Royalbroil, That sounds great! I'm stepping out right now, but I'll get to it when I return in a few hours. Cheers, -- twelsht (talk) 18:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

For now, I made a few minor edits, some of which (as it turned out) echoed comments in the archived PR. The piece seems quite comprehensive, but it could benefit from the introduction of a "Personal life" section. It sounds as though Kulwicki was absorbed by his work and had few close friends. Still, information about his relationship with family members, etc., would help to humanize him. Given that Kulwicki was widely identified as Polish American, I was surprised that there were few references to his ethnic background in the article. Perhaps you should at least mention that his parents (or one of them) were of Polish origin. I will be away from the computer for a couple days because of an unforeseen development. But I'll be more than happy to write a review on Monday. Cheers, -- twelsht (talk) 04:15, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Your characterization of him as being absorbed by his work and having few close friends is exactly right. That's exactly what he was known for: quiet, studious, loner, laughed at by some of the other drivers. I don't want to say bad things about him in his article. That's why there's no "personal life" section. He was known for not dating because he didn't find women up to his standards. His mother and brother died when he was young, so he only had his father who either lived on the road or was working at the shop. His father was very well-known in the state and region for building awesome engines so I'm sure that he was contantly working.
Kulwicki greatly changed NASCAR - it used to be a family sport and now it extremely businesslike with long days and living to work (vs. working to live). I wouldn't say that he was widely known as a Polish American, but it only came up at times during life, like the article conveys. I added that his city was known as a Polish American city. I don't know about Kulwicki's father heritage and stated that we was buried in his mother's family plot like other Polish Americans. Royalbroil 00:45, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi Royalbroil, Thanks for your comments on Jack Warner! I haven't had a chance to look at them closely, but all of them appeared to be constructive and actionable. As you suggested, it may be possible to locate a free use image of Warner as a studio exec, given that his career traces back to 1918. I'll act on your recommendations this evening. For now, I printed up a copy of Alan Kulwicki (it's easier for me to review the hard copy of an article). I'll be ready with some comments later today. Cheers, -- twelsht (talk) 16:29, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

IROC project

One other possibility regarding what to do with the above project comes to mind, although you might not find it a particularly good one.

I am not myself a particular fan of motorsports, so I don't know how many if any other defunct racing organizations are out there. If there are many or even any others, then it might not be a bad idea to propose that they be included within the scope of the reorganized group as well. Also, and this is very much something with which reasonable people could disagree, it might be worthwhile to perhaps consider setting it up as a joint subproject with Wikipedia:WikiProject History. For what little it might be worth, I have personally gotten the definite impression that the average editor, or even average project, gives at best secondary consideration to content relating to historical matters, and the same might be true of the motorsport project as well. If that is the case, then the content might get a bit more focused attention as a subproject of a group which is specifically devoted to historical matters. Anyway, just an idea. John Carter (talk) 18:01, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Re-wording

Yep - but it'll probably be Monday as I'm busy today. Will leave my comments here. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 09:34, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Is there a designated 'Polish-American' section of the cemetary? If so, how about:"Kulwicki was buried in the family plot in the Polish-American area of the Saint Adalbert Cemetery in Milwaukee." If there is not a designated area, how about: "Kulwicki was buried in the family plot at the Saint Adalbert Cemetery in Milwaukee, in an area where there are many Polish-American graves." The latter is a bit clumsy, and also requires you have a source for the fact that the other graves are Polish-American. How does one identify a Polish-American grave? I'll come back to this later, but let me know what you think of those two. 4u1e (talk) 17:29, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
I like the second option better. It didn't appear to be an official Polish-American section, but the section was different. The rest of the cemetery has one stone to mark the person that's buried there. Several stones in that Polish American section had the name of the family written in large letters on a large stone, with the family member's names written in small letters along the base of the stone. Here's the full picture of the family gravestone. Do you think that this topic is important enough to spend time on? I don't think it's worth much time. Royalbroil 01:12, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Many thanks for blocking User:Garystaff even for a s short time my user page was also blanked by the same editor. Another editor reverted this. But I feel more part of Wikipedia now that my user page was vandalized! Many thanks-RFD (talk) 00:07, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I do avoid edit wars-but with vandals you keep reverting the vandalism and some of them think you are reverting their changes. This is a learning process for myself. Thank you-RFD (talk) 00:15, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Jack Warner

I've finished commenting on Jack Warner, if you want to get stuck in. Alternatively you might want to wait until Twelsht has addressed or rejected my comments! Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 18:24, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I'll wait until your comments are addressed before I review, so hopefully I will be notified. Royalbroil 01:05, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi Royalbroil, I just returned to my computer (a bit later than anticipated) and began to address 4ule's comments. When I'm finished, I'll let you know, and I'll move right on to the Kulwicki article. Cheers, -- twelsht (talk) 04:51, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
I just finished addressing 4ule's comments on Jack Warner and will move on Alan Kulwicki tommorrow. Cheers, -- twelsht (talk) 03:09, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
I've finished most of the peer review comments to the Kulwicki article. I'll probably be done by the time you read this. I'll review Jack Wagner's article when I get done with implementing these peer review comments on Kulwicki's article. Royalbroil 03:14, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Ltc logo.gif)

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Someone put a different image on the article, making this image an orphan. I speedy deleted it as sole author. Royalbroil 01:04, 26 February 2008 (UTC)


Kechewaishke and Kulwicki

Thanks for the input, I started Talk:Alan Kulwicki/Comments and left some suggestions. Leo1410 (talk) 20:54, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Ray Fox

Hi there-- You've put together an interesting article. I had a vague memory of reading about auto racing being done at Rockingham Park in Salem (it's now just horse racing), and I was just now able to find mention of board racing on the racetrack's web page. So I'll fix that bit up. See you, --Ken Gallager (talk) 22:35, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

review

Oh i have just gone off at a tangent. The +ve feedback (thx) should assist my memory of stuff to do Victuallers (talk) 22:59, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Many thanks for the Barnstar! I've had a horrible cold the past few days, and that was a bit of a bright spot. :)

I'm not quite done with the full list yet, and I've got some cross-referencing and verification to do. Speaking of references, do you think each line of the chart needs specific cites or can I just use a single "References" section at the bottom? (Each track would naturally have more specific source references on its individual article anyway.) Duncan1800 (talk) 02:28, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Advice wanted

Hey Royalbroil! I wanted to ask you a question about what to do with images that are potentially violating Wikipedia copyright rules. Recently a new user, Hellcat854, uploaded and added images to the Kutless and Flyleaf articles. There's no description or copyright information on either image. While I haven't actually searched around for copyright info on those pictures, I've seen them all over the web quite a few times (especially the Kutless one), and they seem professional; so I'm suspecting they're copyrighted. I've already talked with the user who uploaded them, requesting more info about the images, but they haven't returned since then.

I've never quite dealt with this type of thing before, and neither have I really observed what happens in a case like this, so I wanted to ask someone with more experience what to do and where to go next with this. Do we try to get copyright info on the pictures, then flag them for deletion if sufficient information is gathered? I'm going to go ahead and right now be bold and remove the images from both articles. Thanks for any pointers. :) JamieS93 03:00, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I got the Kutless image listed for deletion here, following the steps given under the WP:IFD. --JamieS93 14:50, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
I know, I went ahead and listed it for the normal IFD, 'cause I figured it probably wouldn't pass anyway, as you said. Many thanks for the assistance! --JamieS93 15:17, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Alan Kulwicki

You did an excellent job with the Alan Kulwicki article. It was well written and very interesting. Thanks-RFD (talk) 18:06, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Thanks! I thank the main eyes that have peer reviewed the article, whether or not their review resulted in many changes. It's close to a GA nomination and hopefully FA shortly down the road. Royalbroil 18:13, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for taking User:Garystaff23 under your wing.-RFD (talk) 18:08, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
I hope that he reads my comments and takes them to heart. Royalbroil 18:13, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Yahoo! Fantasy Sports

Page has been nominated. Please go to the articles for deletion page to enter the discussion. -UWMSports (talk) 19:03, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I agree with your points on the discussion in keeping the article. I think keeping a list that shows the start/end dates is relevant. The fifth year of something is meaningless, but the start and end certainly is meaningful. If you want, we can fix up that page together over the next couple days. My main concern right now is SportsMaster's attitude. You've been defending him and he doesn't even reply to your comments. I really don't want to contribute to it if he keeps reverting our edits.-UWMSports (talk) 20:36, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
UWM is a college sports program. There are millions of usernames that say "YankeesFan" or "GoIrish". -UWMSports (talk) 20:52, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm defending the need for having that article, not SportsMaster's edits or attitude. Contributors generally don't mess around real long with someone who doesn't work well with others before they get frustrated like you are right now. Let it go, it will pass. I recommend that you stop watching his contributions. Others will eventually see his edits and deal with them if they're bad. It's very frustrating to spend time working on an article just for someone to delete it.
I hope that many people want to improve the article! If a few people spend a half hour on it it will turn into a great article! Royalbroil 21:02, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Lets merge Yahoo! Fantasy Sports and Yahoo! Sports together. Both need alot of work, I think together they can help each other out greatly. -UWMSports (talk) 00:22, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
I respectfully disagree. I think that enough information could be found to make a decent article. Royalbroil 01:10, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, lets see what happens over the next week or so. If I'm proven wrong then I will tip my hat to you guys. Both pages have been around way over a year though, but hopefully something can be done with them. -UWMSports (talk) 03:27, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I apologize if it wasn't written clearly. But to say it doesn't look any less than an advertisement than something else falls under WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. However, no decision was reached on its suggested deletion. I say we merge the article without getting everyone involved again if no one upgrades the article from its current state the next few days. -UWMSports (talk) 17:13, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Yahoo! Fantasy Sports

Royalbroil, I did not intend to remove your additional commentary. That was a misake on my part. My appologies. --Josh (talk) 00:00, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Apology accepted. Accidents happen - we're cool. Royalbroil 01:08, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Lost hook?

Hi Royalbroil, I can't seem to find a hook I entered in DYK Feb 24, it's about the novel The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, along with suggestions from other eds. Can you find what happened to it, please? Julia Rossi (talk) 21:53, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

It got loaded into the Next update, where articles are staged before hitting the main page. It just got loaded on the main page and you should be notified shortly. Royalbroil 02:37, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, didn't realise they vanished into recycling. Nice to have it accepted too. Also thanks for the tip about Frank's pic – some anon was being silly and I was being silly back. Took it out anyway, cheers Julia Rossi (talk) 03:02, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Bio question

There's a person I want to write a biography about but she refuses to disclose her age in interviews. Though she's notable in Australia at least, she's still living. Is not having a birthdate a problem, or is there an acceptable way around it? Julia Rossi (talk) 03:14, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Aha, thanks RB : ) no barrier then, away we go... Julia Rossi (talk) 07:03, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Appreciation

The WikiProject Films Award
I, twelsht (talk) 08:22, 28 February 2008 (UTC), hereby award Royalbroil the WikiProject Films Award for his/her valued contibutions to WikiProject Films. Thank you for your assistance on Jack Warner.
Awarded 08:22, 28 February 2008 (UTC)


Ray Fox DYK

Updated DYK query On 2 March, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ray Fox, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 10:31, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Re:RFA

Go right ahead and send it in! Thanks so much! --D-Day (talk) 20:02, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

OK, I just accepted. (Didn't see it the first time). Go ahead and start her up! --D-Day (talk) 19:32, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Matthew Deady GA review

I think I've addressed what can be addressed, let me know if the re-wording works. Thanks. Aboutmovies (talk) 01:26, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

UCLA

Check out my comments at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions#UCLA digital library program. --evrik (talk) 16:28, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank You

Royalbroil, Thank you for comment, you are correct he is very much so "causing annoyance" to myself. Also I don't feel that what can be viewed as a threat "Otherwise I'll probably just nominate it again, and I don't think people will take as kindly to it if no effort of improvement was given" are warranted by User:UWMSports. --Josh (talk) 17:49, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for telling me about the Commons Helper tool, I wasn't aware of that, it clears up a lot of questions! -Pete (talk) 21:53, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm happy to help, especially when it will save other people some time down the road. Royalbroil 21:57, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Re:Renault R26 Flickr photos

Thanks for keeping an eye out for F1 photos on Flickr. Unfortunately, I think that the images are of a reliveried Benetton B200 as opposed to a Renault R26 (see here for some comparison), so none are worth uploading in my opinion.-- Diniz (talk) 19:13, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

DYK

I would like to say a very big thanks for the DYK. Willirennen (talk) 11:11, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Caroline Ingalls/Dismont Cryteer

Hi- I had to revert some edits to the Caroline Ingalls articles on grounds of vandalism and a possible hoax. An editor started an article about Dismont Cryterr who supposedly married Caroline Ingalls after the death of Charles Ingalls. They were the parents of Laura Ingalls Wilder. I did a google search of Dismont Cryterr and came up with no information.I am trying to assume good faith and not to bite new editors but I personally feel Dismont Cryterr does not exist and this is a hoax or experiment being done. Thanks-RFD (talk) 12:41, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

There was no content besides name and birthdate, so I speedy deleted it for lack of context (WP:CSD#A1). Royalbroil 14:15, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks-RFD (talk) 14:54, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Willis Lent DYK

Thank you very much, Royal. I do appreciate it. Manxruler (talk) 23:05, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Jack Warner FAC

Hi Royalbroil, This message is to inform you that I recently nominated Jack Warner as a featured article candidate. Your comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, again, for your detailed feedback and recommendations! Cheers, -- twelsht (talk) 09:42, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback and support! Best, -- twelsht (talk) 18:20, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Good to hear! Thanks, once again, for all your feedback! Be sure to let me know when Alan Kulwicki is nominated as an FA. With appreciation, -- twelsht (talk) 03:50, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: NASCAR protection

I'll unprotect the article for now, but I don't think it will last long based off of previous experience with the article. --Michael Greiner 22:25, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Unprotection lasted about 30 hours before a request at WP:RFPP and then an indefinite semi-protect being reapplied by EncMstr, with 10 vandal edits in that time. --Michael Greiner 21:49, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

congrats!

Updated DYK query On 11 March, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Scott Bloomquist, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

-- well done, is the GA nom OK? Like to help with April 1st ... Victuallers (talk) 20:02, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Closing RfAs/RfBs

Hi - thanks for your message. I've got no objection to signing when I close an RfA or RfB, but it's never been standard practice. You can see the instructions to bureaucrats at WP:BUR; if you find a signature on closing useful, can I suggest bringing it up at WP:BN? If it is useful, it'd probably be good to get everyone doing it. Warofdreams talk 22:26, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Image protection

Since this image is not, and probably will not, be on the main page again, can you delete it from Wikipedia and just let it link from Commons? --Kakofonous (talk) 14:02, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Admins like myself periodically delete these images every few days. I deleted it. Royalbroil 00:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

glen eira councillors

Hi - Done - can you please review if I've done it correctly (I'm really sick and tired of this vogon red tape - there is a clear case for vandalism on that article and it has to stop and no one is doing anything about it) Thanks --CatonB (talk) 21:53, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't really care if Councillors of City of Glen Eira stays or gets deleted, but I felt that it didn't meet speedy deletion criteria. Thanks for letting me know. Royalbroil 01:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Cool :) Thanks though --CatonB (talk) 02:19, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

DYK

Update is four hours late. Any chance you could post it? Gatoclass (talk) 04:12, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Will do. Royalbroil 04:16, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks :) Gatoclass (talk) 04:20, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Jack Chrisman

Updated DYK query On 13 March, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jack Chrisman, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 10:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Marshall WI

You know, I've only lived in Marshall for about 4 years, and I have no pictures of the welcome signs (they are new actually), or the downtown, so why don't you post what you have, and if I can take better, I will replace them! (or this might get someone with better pictures to improve the article... ;) Let's see what you have! Timmccloud (talk) 12:14, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

50 DYK

Thanks, and thanks for all your work keeping the page maintained! Johnbod (talk) 16:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

The 50 DYK Medal
Awarded to Royalbroil for meritorious service to DYK. Blnguyen (vote in the photo straw poll) 23:48, 13 March 2008 (UTC)



Racing in Illinois

Actually, I think the way you have it is closer to what Wiki should be. I really didn't have any "historic" information in the "History" section. If I can do enough digging, I might be able to come up with the beginnings of racing in Illinois, which would make a "History" section needed.

If you do the Racing in Wisconsin article, remember that CORR and SODA both started there, and that the WSORR is now the prevalant off road racing sanctioning body in the area. Jgrace1294 (talk) 20:29, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Yea, I went to one or two SODA race at Road America. I love off-road racing. One of my short to medium-term goals is create article about the big CORR and SODA racers. I even have a source for some current images from a flickr friend. I'm working on the big drag racers right now. Royalbroil 22:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Wow!

You're such a great Wikipedian! Anyway... here goes...

Wikipedia is strictly buisness (mostly) which is why I am sending these messages to random people.

These listed Wikipages Need your help!

Whoever knows when Alf Schofield died please put in on the Alf Schofield page, that would really help.

Look at the Talk:Kangaroo (meat) page regarding my post- Kangaroo Species- that would really help.

Look at Talk:Katharine McPhee regarding her spouse under Relationships by Keane Rox.

For April 2007 Nor'easter well, I put in a fact and referenced it and now I don't know how to complete the reference. Click the blue 2 reference and you'll know what I mean. Then click the [2] at the top of the April 2007 Nor'easter article and complete the reference.

Spread the word for these Wikipages in need! That is all.

I don't think this is spam, but I am copying and pasting the same content on my own userpage.

Please reply, --RayquazaDialgaWeird2210 (talk) 21:43, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Alt account

Okay, fixed. I only use Nishkid (talk · contribs) for DYK crediting, so I made a mention of that on its userpage. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not love) 00:50, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank-you

I can has mop?
I can has mop?
 Hi Royalbroil! Thank-you for your support in my RfA (91/1/1).
I take all the comments to heart and hope I can fulfil the role of being
an admin to the high standard that the community deserves.
Seraphim♥ Whipp 17:36, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks...

Thanks..., I already tried to find out how to put the spouse in (It didn't work.

Bedtime,--RayquazaDialgaWeird2210 (talk) 01:29, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Fansites on Garbage (band)

The ones I listed on its talk page are being used currently. Can your tape replace them? Ultra! 16:04, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

RFA thanks

Thanks for the support
Wow, thanks for your support on my request for adminship after three edit conflicts! It passed 92/2/2, and don't worry. I still have a lot of editing to do, such as reaching #1 on WP:WBFAN :) ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:36, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

DYK needs updating

FYI. DYK needs updating ASAP. Four hours overdue. Chris (talk) 00:53, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Will do. Royalbroil 00:54, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I just checked all the author and nominator pages and I think between us we notified everyone. Sorry for the ec and thanks for the help, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 01:26, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

thx

Hi, been meaning to reply to your good wishes. I am using the admin powers for DYK but little else. Which is good I think as I don't really want to join the full time wiki police. Thanks for the help on the main page ... I didn't check that the page that I loaded was protected although as you saw I had created a protected image. Damn! Still if they wanted infallibility then they'll need to get some gods. I did clear the dyk list on the main page once by mistake but luckily I think I was the only admin who spotted it. Do keep watching .. I'm sure I will trip again. Thx. Roger aka Victuallers (talk) 19:43, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

A Favour

Hi Royalbroil. Can I ask you a favour? Would you be able to move Nelson Piquet Sr. (racing driver) back to Nelson Piquet, per this discussion at WP:F1. Because the redirect has been edited since the original move, it needs admin assistance to move it back. I've listed it at WP:Requested Moves, but there seems to be a bit of a backlog there at the moment. Thanks. DH85868993 (talk) 21:41, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Done - it was non-controversial and it made no sense to me the Nelson Piquet would be disambiguous. Royalbroil 02:02, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. DH85868993 (talk) 02:16, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

DYK image

Hi, and thanks for your message - Image:Flag President of Ireland.svg has been zapped. Perhaps next time I'll include in the upload edit summary that it can be deleted on sight once it's off the main page, to make it clearer. Thanks, BencherliteTalk 07:32, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

...Or I could just learn to use {{C-uploaded}}, which does the job for me... BencherliteTalk 08:05, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

That would have done it. I wondered because it had the wrong template. There were lots of pages linking to it and I didn't want to screw them all up. I suppose I could have tried and looked at the result. Royalbroil 12:44, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: User:Ucladigilib images

I've deleted all the ones listed at the Media discussion page and responded there. Thanks. MECU≈talk 17:31, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the Tireless Contributor Barnstar. I hadn't received an award in quite awhile and was feeling very unappreciated. Not that I need awards to keep plodding on, but it's nice to be appreciated. Thanks again. MECU≈talk 19:35, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Lacrosse team

Have you verified that one? I took a peek at it earlier but decided to see if I could find some more hooks first. Gatoclass (talk) 13:49, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough. It's in. Gatoclass (talk) 14:01, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Jos LeDuc review

Hi, sorry about editing the talk page while you were doing your review on this article. I didn't realize you were adding any more right away. Anyhow, I hope you don't mind that I've been working on your concerns while you're doing the review. I just happened to have some free time tonight. As for the article, I think I've overdone the "out of universe" thing in some areas, as this was the first wrestling biography article I've written, so your suggestions on how to fix awkward phrases are greatly appreciated. Thanks for offering to do the review. GaryColemanFan (talk) 03:05, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again for the review. I believe I've fixed everything from your list except the hall of fame thing. As I explain on the article's talk page, the SLAM! Wrestling Canadian Hall of Fame isn't a real hall of fame so much as the name of a website. Please let me know if anything else needs fixing. Best wishes, GaryColemanFan (talk) 06:10, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
I've made all of the new changes you requested. The reason that the Yukon Lumberjacks thing didn't make sense is because it's not true. They were inspired by a different Yukon Eric, so I changed the information. Please let me know if there's anything else that needs to be done. Thanks againn, GaryColemanFan (talk) 16:23, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
My intention wasn't to annoy anyone. I had discussed an idea with another editor about trying to make a focused effort to reduce the backlog by asking each of the sports projects to review two articles. If you think this will just come across as unwanted spam, I am willing to remove the requests. GaryColemanFan (talk) 19:20, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Sorry about the misunderstanding. I would love to see the backlog reduced, so I really appreciate editors like you offering to review articles. Like you said, I intended this as a nudge rather than trying to pressure anyone into anything. Best wishes, GaryColemanFan (talk) 19:25, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

4/1 mainpage

Responded on my talk; yes, I was completely unaware of that page until today ... yikes !!! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:59, 24 March 2008 (UTC)


Your GA nomination of Alan Kulwicki

Hello, I just wanted to introduce myself and let you know I am glad to be reviewing the article Alan Kulwicki you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 3 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Zenlax T C S 19:53, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

You are quite welcome. I'd like to begin by saying to have some patience, I see that the article reads well and I want to make a great evaluation for in you pursuing to get the article to Feature Article. I thank you very much for taking the time to review two Good articles. I would like to ask a favor, only if you are interested. Overall, please check the article's talk page for any comments I have left. Zenlax T C S 19:21, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

DYK

Will do. Gatoclass (talk) 03:05, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I'll include that one. Sorry about the delay, I've had a sequence of dud hooks, and the others are taking a long time to confirm. With your hook and the one I just found, I think we'll have an update though. I'll let you know when it's done, shouldn't be long now. Gatoclass (talk) 03:41, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I think it's just about ready now. Gatoclass (talk) 03:54, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the DYK notification. Ty 04:49, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Anna

Oh ok, in the article Jim Trueman I put the article up for speedy deletion because it was such a small article. I did a google search and must have spelled the name wrong or something because i got no results regarding anything called "Indy 500" on the articles. Still a little new at this whole thing so sorry for the misunderstanding. Feel free to contact me for anything, If i screw up again especially. I would appreciate it if you could throw me a few links on templates and such for reference.. i don't have much knowledge of them and most of the time I am having to edit and re-edit because the template i used was wrong. Also, how would i be able to rollback an article to a previous revision as some vandals like to edit, reedit and such, and i get a little confused so i just pass it up. Thanks again, Anna AnnaJGrant (talk) 03:11, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Trueman

In 3 years, I've never had someone try to delete an article after 2 minutes, but sometimes I guess it happens. I should have had it typed up first, but I was eager to get it started. I've already got some substaintial text to both Jim Trueman and Truesports. There's more to come, soon. Doctorindy (talk) 03:32, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Al Hofmann

Updated DYK query On 27 March, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Al Hofmann, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 03:41, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Newbie

Yeah, looks like I did it again haha, sorry about that. Didnt mean to post on your user page mate. Anyways, thanks for the tips and such and i'll try not to lower the standard. Again, sorry for being a newbie and acting rashly. -Anna AnnaJGrant (talk) 03:41, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

A heads up on racing-reference bot request

Hi Royalbroil,

I wanted to give you a heads-up on a minor bot request I have made to update the external links in most NASCAR profile pages that link to Racing-Reference.com so they go to the new URL of Racing-Reference.info

Please see, for your consideration, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bot_requests#racing-reference.com_-.3E_racing-reference.info__external_link_checker_and_changer

Guroadrunner (talk) 10:45, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


Adoption

I was wondering if you would be able to adopt met as a user on Wikipedia. I used to edit Wikipedia anomlysly and just began with a user name. I have noticed that I don't know too much about the technicality of Wikipedia and a lot of the "in-site concepts." I noticed you were an administator, so you have been around here a while now and know what Wikipedia is about. If you are unable to for any reason that is fine, and I could have someone elese (another administrator) that may adopt me as a user on Wikipedia. Thanks for reading my message.

--Tlayden (talk) 19:49, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Problem

I have been seeing people talk behind my back about me. Mostly about my adoption program. I would like you to check User talk:Toddst1. You'll notice it around the bottom. I would like your opinion.--RyRy5 talk 06:56, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for answering. That edit was a mistake, and I'm sorry if it caused any trouble. I thought is was a page blanking with a nonsense edit summary.
When I siad "Until I am an Admin", that only meant if I could ask her once more for adoption when I'm an admin with more experience. I looked at my archive and I didn't know that she sent me a message, telling me she doesn't want to talk to me again. It was probably becuase Queerbubbles and another person sent me 2 messages in a few minutes. One was at the bottum and the other, a few messages up. I then must have only read the bottom message. That's why I always check the history of my talk page to see if anybody but who sent me the bottom message sent me another one.
I have 5 adoptees. One has been inactive for a long time (User:Tubesurfer). The adoption program is when I give my adoptees tests, and if possible, I also let an admin grade them. This helps my adoptees study more while taking tests. I would like your opinion on the Adoption Program. Thanks.--RyRy5 talk 17:06, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Garbage (band)

Can you expand the page using Behind the Music as you said before? Ultra! 15:00, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar!

Wisconsin Barnstar
For your work on Wisconsin related articles, I hereby award you a Wisconsin Barnstar. Keep up the good work! --Dual Freq (talk) 17:10, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for awarding me the above :-) Nyttend (talk) 19:54, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I second that, thanks for the Barnstar, glad you find the templates helpful. VerruckteDan (talk) 21:36, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks for the Wisconsin Barnstar.RFD (talk) 21:59, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Go ahead and give User:Dual Freq the Wisconsin Barnstar. User:Dual Freq did lots of articles on Wisconsin as well as Iowa&Illinois. Thanks-RFD (talk) 11:15, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

"Miss Ima"

Nice job on "Miss Ima"!
To all of the excellent editors who were part of the Karanacs-led collaboration to bring Ima Hogg to featured status, it was a pleasure working with you on such a fine article about a great lady. Thank you so much for your contribution to this fun collaboration.

Best regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:11, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

RfA Thanks

Max Mosley

And that is why I prefer working on historical topics! Thanks for the offer of making required changes to the article while it is locked. If it's OK with you, I'll copy Laserbrain and Tony's comments from the failed FAC to the talk page and put comments or suggested fixes there. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 08:24, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

OK, no worries. We can work out what the changes should be at least. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 16:57, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes, it's useful stuff and worth going through the exercises. Maybe I should do them again too! :) 4u1e (talk) 17:28, 31 March 2008 (UTC)