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There was a problem when you copied and pasted from a table with the visual editor. It could add href where it shouldn't be. This has now been fixed. [2]
Changes later this week
Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour. You can read more about this.
Because of the data centre test there will be no new version of MediaWiki this week. Changes for this week will come next week instead.
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 10 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Skittles has been semi-protected by you 7 years ago. I wish to add information that is mentioned in the talk page regarding the history of skittles as Glees - there are multiple sources with similar information. Can you please unprotect it? Thankyou. -81.154.161.190 (talk) 19:59, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
I doubt protection will be needed here. Generally, they've been playing hit and run with the stalking edits, confining their persistent troublemaking to the Detroit articles. We'll see. John from Idegon (talk) 00:23, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
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Problems
Some pages, edits and users disappeared for a short while after the server switch. Missing content and users was fixed within a day. Some preferences and other things might take a few more days to fix. [4]
Wikis are updated with new and updated translations from translatewiki.net again. This will happen once a week. The developers are working on fixing the problem so we can have translation updates more often again. [5]
Changes later this week
When you create an abuse filter that prevents edits you can now write a specific error message for it. Before this all abuse filters that prevented edits had the same error message. [6]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 October. It will be on all wikis from 18 October (calendar).
Meetings
There will be no more meetings with the Editing team. This is because not enough Wikimedians were interested. To tell developers which bugs you think are the most important you can use Phabricator as normal. [7]
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 17 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 October. It will be on all wikis from 25 October (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 24 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
The Community Wishlist Survey begins on 29 October. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals from 29 October to 11 November. You can vote on proposals from 16 November to 30 November.
The Copyright holder has e-mailed a licence to permissions-en@wikimedia.org (and a copy to me too). But it is a bit confusing as to what we need to do from here. Is there something we need to do to ensure the photograph is not taken down? Here is a copy of the licence:
I agree to publish the above-mentioned content under the free license: Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported and GNU Free Documentation License (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts).
I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws.
I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites.
I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by me.
I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project.
Lee Bailey from Cheshire Elite Phorography
[Copyright Holder and Photographer]
[26/10/2018]
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You can post proposals for the Community Wishlist Survey. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals until 11 November. You can vote on proposals from 16 November to 30 November.
The wikis now have a content security policy report. This means that you might get a warning in your javascript console when you load external resources in your user scripts. For security reasons it is recommended that you don't do this. It might not be possible to load external resources in your scripts in the future. [8]
Problems
Your watchlist can show which changes you have already seen. This did not work for a few days. It has been fixed. [9]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 31 October. It will be on all wikis from 1 November (calendar).
The 2006 wikitext editor is no longer available. It will be removed from Special:Preferences. It has not been the standard editor for a long time. It was replaced by the 2010 wikitext editor. [10][11]
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 31 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
hi, this message is for pinchofhope concerning an edit I made to page love and hip hop. I deleted information that had been repeated in the previous paragraph. it was literally the same sentence, four sentences later. I don't know how to write on a "talk page" but my edit removed duplicate information. I am going to make the edit again and indicate why more clearly this time because it was not previously understood that I was removing information that had been repeated in the previous paragraph.
thank you
Jollyioop (talk) 00:30, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
Jollyioop (talk) 00:30, 2 November 2018 (UTC) jollyioop
Partial blocks is now available for testing on the Test Wikipedia. The new functionality allows you to block users from editing specific pages. Bugs may exist and can be reported on the local talk page or on Meta. A discussion regarding deployment to English Wikipedia will be started by community liaisons sometime in the near future.
A user script is now available to quickly review unblock requests.
The 2019 Community Wishlist Survey is now accepting new proposals until November 11, 2018. The results of this survey will determine what software the Wikimedia Foundation's Community Tech team will work on next year. Voting on the proposals will take place from November 16 to November 30, 2018. Specifically, there is a proposal category for admins and stewards that may be of interest.
Arbitration
Eligible editors will be invited to nominate themselves as candidates in the 2018 Arbitration Committee Elections starting on November 4 until November 13. Voting will begin on November 19 and last until December 2.
The Arbitration Committee's email address has changed to arbcom-enwikimedia.org. Other email lists, such as functionaries-en and clerks-l, remain unchanged.
@ShakespeareFan00: I have not played with quarry much, something I may well try, I'll save the page for future reference. One turn deserves another - as I know you also like images, I have written a few extra bots (not approved, as they only write to the bot's own user space - I did try for approval for the commons ones, but was not approved as I did not need it for this task), so do check out...
User:RonBot/NewImages - from User:RonBot/13/Source1. Attempt to show last 90 days of new images, not marked for commons, and not moved to commons. A bit like the old User:Multichil/FreeImages that died in 2014.
P.S. I might have to split No.1 into more than one page - I forgot, the number of images using that system is limited, I think 500 images is about tops. Ronhjones (Talk)01:07, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
Non-free images being displayed at User:RonBot/NewImages
Hi Ronjones. For some reason there are a number of non-free images being displayed at User:RonBot/NewImages which is something not really allowed per WP:NFCC#9; so, the images are bing flagged for review. I'm assuming these are there because they've been reviewed or are being reviewed by Ronbot. If this kind of thing is going to happen a lot you might want to see if you can get the page listed as a maintenance page exemption per WP:NFEXMP. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:03, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
@Marchjuly: Odd - They come from an advanced search on File space - deepcat:"All free media" -deepcat:"Copy to Wikimedia Commons" prefer-recent:1,1 - which is files in Category:All free media to five levels deep, not in Category:Copy to Wikimedia Commons to 5 levels deep, and weighted by the age in days. There should not be any non-free there - unless it's just been changed from free to non-free - any images you can list in particular? The idea of the page was to avoid using Special:NewFiles as there are so many NF files in that page. Ronhjones (Talk)02:54, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
These are the files which were flagged as being used on that page:
They all look like they've been uploaded fairly recently. Some of them (#2, #6 and #7) have been tagged with {{wrong license}}. At least one of the files (#5) was uploaded at non-free, but seemed too simple for that; so, I converted it to "PD-logo". One of the files (#3) looks to have been originally mistakenly uploaded as PD, but that was converted to non-free by another editor; it's going to be deleted per NFCC#1, so no need to wory about that. Of the remaining two, #1 is probably licensed correctly, but #8 probably isn't since it's a screenshot from Malay Wikipedia which would fail WP:FREER as the orginal file is licensed as PD (assuming that license is correct). So, most of these are probably just incorrectly licensed files which have license issues that are getting flag because they were provided with non-free use rationales even if they didn't need them. It looks like JJMC89 removed them from the "NewImages" page already, but maybe there's a tweak which can be made to stop them from being re-added. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:28, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Some of the images are being categorized as free and non-free. They either have multiple licenses (without using |dw=yes) or a free license with a NFUR. Some fixes for the above images: add |dw=yes (template edit), add |dw=yes, and add non-free licence because of NFUR (may actually need to go the other way). I think using cat:"All free media" -cat:"All non-free media" -deepcat:"Copy to Wikimedia Commons" prefer-recent:1,1 would work. — JJMC89 (T·C) 06:01, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
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Recent changes
You can now use TemplateWizard to edit templates. This works only with the 2010 wikitext editor and not in the visual editor or the 2017 wikitext editor. If you click on you can enter the information in a pop-up. You can turn on TemplateWizard in your beta feature preferences. [12]
Changes later this week
You can choose to see edit conflicts in a two-column view. This is a beta feature. You can find it in your preferences. The interface for the two-column edit conflict will change. You can read more.
When you edit with the visual editor you can use the "Automatic" citation tab. This helps you generate citations. You will now be able to write plain text citations or the title of a journal article or a book in this tab. This will search the Crossref and WorldCat databases and add the top result. [13]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 November. It will be on all wikis from 8 November (calendar).
Meetings
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Hello
You deleted tne file thumb| Hannah Winbolt in my one and only article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannah_Winbolt (and likely my last!) because I didn't fully explain its source: The South Wales Daily News 18 January 1895. It was illustrating an article for general publication so is therefore in the public domain and out of copywright. I have substituted a previous photographic copy of it but Stockport Heritage Library would very much like me to include the clearer pen and ink drawing. I hope you will kindly undelete it for me. Diane Coffey
Diane Coffey (talk) 19:24, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
I have read your comments but I'm not sure how I can seek permission for something published in the public domain some 123 years ago. I believe the particular paper is no longer published. I am a total newcomer to Wikipedia and find these various talk pages confusing but would really like to complete the article with that version of the pen portrait.Diane Coffey (talk) 20:43, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
The cutting of the actual newspaper article and the page on which it is printed is in possession of Stockport Heritage Library who have emailed me the version that was deleted and it has been used by others elsewhere on Google. I do hope all this is helpful - I want to comply withWikipedia's rules but alsodojustice to Hannah. Diane Coffey (talk) 21:09, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
I am speaking to you about Singapore International School, Mumbai wiki page. I had added some information which I know to be true through personal experience of studying in the school, but it is constantly removed. I have been undoing the removal often and even noting in my comments that the person is intentionally removing information from the page, which is very relevant. If you could please add the information I had added again, and stopping others from changing, then that would be great. I normally am not one to edit Wiki articles but once I found out my school had one, I had to include this information.
Feel free to message me again for more information!
Hello Ronhjones,
I am K-Minman96 and in the past couple of days I was approached by you saying that some images I uploaded were too large. Does the image size change by itself or is there a way that I can manually crop the image myself? (K-Minman96 (talk) 21:07, 6 November 2018 (UTC))
@K-Minman96: In theory, the images would be automatically reduced within 24h. The reducing bot is down for a bit. It will catch up soon (probably tomorrow). You are free to crop the image (if possible) or reduce it yourself. The bot will skip the image if under 105000 pixels. Once reduced, you have 7 days before the original is hidden. Ronhjones (Talk)23:28, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
Hello, I noticed that the name for File:Popeyes Luisiana Kitchen.svg needs to be fixed as there is a misspelling. It should be Popeyes Louisiana Kitchen.svg not Luisiana. If you could correct this since you were the uploader it would be appreciated. Thank you. YborCityJohn (talk) 05:04, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Hello Ron, I uploaded an image to Wikipedia for the first time, so my apologies if I'm contacting you incorrectly or misunderstand what your bot does.
Unfortunately, the image reduction was so severe (now less than 400px across) that it is barely readable. I had tagged the picture as not public domain out of an abundance of caution, but the image is a tiny part of a much larger work and is from 1971 – centuries old by the standards of software!
Can you take a second look at this user's uploads?
I saw you've tagged several photos by the same user for deletion because of a lack of license information. I'm a little concerned about their uploads because they seem to have put a "this is my own work" tag on files to get rid of the warnings in the past, but some of them (ex: File:Noriko Ohara.jpg) might not actually be their own (IMDB link the image came from). I'm just a little concerned since their talk page is almost all files uploaded without licensing information and I figured someone who is a little more familiar with verifying image licensing should take a look. Cheers, cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 16:52, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
@Cymru.lass: Not an easy case. I found one more issue with an image, where I found it on a web site and he has cropped off the news site logo. 24h hour block for copyright issues, see how it goes when he returns. I thought you would be in Wales when I saw your user name - how wrong one can be...:-) Do you pronounce it properly? Ronhjones (Talk)18:00, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for taking a closer look! I really wasn't sure if I was in the right vein of thought there. I appreciate the second set of eyes. To answer your other question: Yes! I'm Welsh by heritage, a couple generations removed and have always been in love with the culture cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 19:14, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
@Cymru.lass:I was not happy at the time I added all the tags, it seemed like every upload had an issue. My surname may be Welsh, but no ancestors we can find, but my boat is 1 mile from the Welsh border :-) Ronhjones (Talk)19:32, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, I came across some cases of the user trying to upload an image and creating a template instead and that's how I entered this whole mess. I feel like there might be some WP:CIR issues here with them just not wanting to understand how things work.
@Cymru.lass: Judging by the uploaded subjects, my feeling is that English will not be their first language. BBC says it's 12C day and 8C night there and raining (no surprise) - I've closed it down for the winter. Ronhjones (Talk)19:50, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
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Recent changes
Some old mobile browsers can use the watchlist again. This has not worked for a while. These browsers are called grade C browsers. This helps for example Windows Phone 8.1 with Internet Explorer and Lumia 535 with Windows 10. [14]
Problems
You can choose to see edit conflicts in a two-column view. This is a beta feature. You can find it in your preferences. Users who use this view saw the edit conflict resolution page when they wanted to see a preview. This has been fixed. [15][16][17]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 November. It will be on all wikis from 15 November (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 14 November at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
You can use the content translation tool to translate articles. The developers are working on a new version. One of the changes will be a maintenance category. Articles where users add a lot of text from machine translation without changing it will be in that category. This is so the community can review it. The users will also have been warned before they publish the article that it has a lot of unchanged text from machine translations. [18]
I noticed you blocked 2605:A000:8040:CC00:0:0:0:0 instead of 2605:A000:8040:CC00:0:0:0:0/64 - I assume you were going for a range block, not just for the one IP. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:11, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi Ron, I had an idea for new functionality in RonBot. Your bot already fixes images that are too large to meet the NFC guidelines, but another frequent problem with SVG files is that they'll be too small. What often happens is, someone will extract a logo from a PDF where it appeared very small, and as a result, their SVG will have a tiny nominal size. Someone reading an article will click on the logo, expecting to see it bigger, and instead they'll see a much smaller version of it. An example of this right now is the logo on Charlotte Independence (used to affect maybe half of the teams in that league, but I've manually fixed most of them).
Would you consider developing new functionality for RonBot to raise SVGs to the maximum allowed resolution for NFC? Obviously, you wouldn't want to automatically scale up every SVG, since some are presumably intended to be so small. Instead, an editor would have to manually tag the image to be upsized. The current process of manually fixing this is quite tedious, so being able to simply click a button in Twinkle and add a template would make it much easier to eradicate these unnecessarily-tiny logos. Let me know what you think of my idea. Thanks, IagoQnsi (talk) 19:13, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
@IagoQnsi: The maths works in either direction - I have seen such items - I seen square logos at 20x20 - It will have to go through a bot request. I cannot say what they will say about such an idea. My view is that we have the guideline of 100,000 pixels, so long as the images stay within the guideline, then why not. I'll start a BRFA, and see what transpires. Ronhjones (Talk)19:34, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
Please fix your image resize at File:Filemanager31.gif – the text looks horribly broken. It can be resized to the same lower resolution without that effect (though if the text is still unreadable the image should be left at a higher resolution per the usual practice). Modernponderer (talk) 12:18, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
bsd. Hi, Ron! I am trying to figure out how to create a "File history", like this one. Is there a script that generates the list, or is it done manually? Is this at all still relevant, or is the "file history" section obsolete? Thank you! --Ben Stone18:27, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
@Benstown:It appears there was a GIF version of the file. Then someone made a PNG version from it, and thus copied the history from the GIF history page (before deletion). I think there was a drive to change gif to png many years ago. There is not much point now (besides most free images now get moved to commons). Ronhjones (Talk)18:35, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
This is precisely what i was wondering, was there any greater purpose in keeping the history of a file. If I understand correctly, there isn't. Thank you. --Ben Stone18:53, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Looks like you reviewed this image. Am I missing something here? The source credits the photo to the Des Moines Register, and apparently he was arrested by the Poweshiek County sheriff. So it's not clear why the federal government should have taken the mug shot. GMGtalk20:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
heya on ur user page there's a box saying 'this user has set foot in 20 countries' and another saying 'wiki defcon 3' how do I put those in my own user page? thx, TheOneAndOnlyMuffinCat (talk) 20:25, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
Chartered Tax Practitioner & Certified Public Finance Accountants of Canada,
Dear Ron,
Please kindly reinstate my article: Chartered Tax Practitioner & Certified Public Finance Accountants of Canada, since I have the required source documents for further updates.
Hello, Ronhjones. Voting in the 2018 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 3 December. All users who registered an account before Sunday, 28 October 2018, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Thursday, 1 November 2018 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.
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There is an A/B test for sameAs data. This is to make it easier to find the right information with a search engine. This changes the metadata for a wiki page. It doesn't change how the page looks. [19]
Changes later this week
There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 21 November at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
The Wikimedia wikis use templates to show readers there are problems with the content on some pages. For example if there are no sources or the page needs to be rewritten. The mobile website will soon show more information when you use these templates. Some templates may need to be updated. [20]
The Education Program extension was removed from all Wikimedia projects. The database tables used by the extension will be archived. This will happen in a month. If you want the information on your wiki you should move it to a normal wiki page. [21]
Category:Association footballers not categorized by position/RonBot
Hello! I've noticed a few times your bot for Category:Association footballers not categorized by position has incorrectly added the category on articles which are already placed in a position category, most recently over at Emiliano Méndez and previously at Francisco Del Riego. I may be missing something, but thought I'd let you know in case I'm not. R96Skinner (talk) 13:09, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
@R96Skinner: You are very unlucky! Emiliano Méndez - bot starts running at 03:00, you created it at 04:25, by which time the bot already had the list of "Association football midfielders" safely stored. For Francisco Del Riego, the bot crashed (connection died), so I re-ran in the evening, and you created the article after the bot started... I'll have a look at the code and see if there can be a tweak - the bot has to get the whole page to add Category:Association footballers not categorized by position, so I may be able to get a double check there - it depends on how many position categories there are (can't remember at this time) as the page would have to be tested for every one. If one does happen again, then the bot would remove it on the next run. Ronhjones (Talk)15:54, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
Would it be at all possible if you could block this ip? It's another IP-hopping vandal I've been dealing with, and I'm getting tired of reverting its many, mostly bad edits. Or, at least, could I ask you semi-protect its current favorite targets, List of fictional birds and List of legendary creatures by type? (It insists on inserting original research and non-notable information there)--Mr Fink (talk) 05:57, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
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Recent changes
On wikis with translatable pages you could create a mess when you moved a page that had translatable subpages. A subpage is when you use / to create a new page: /wiki/Page/Subpage. The subpages would be moved but not the translations. The subpages are no longer automatically be moved. This is to make it safer to move pages. [22]
Changes later this week
The advanced search interface will be available by default on all Wikimedia wikis. It makes it easier to use some of the special search functions that most editors don't know exist. It's already active on German, Farsi, Arabic and Hungarian Wikipedia. [23]
Special:UnusedCategories show empty categories with no files or other categories. You can soon choose to not show soft redirect categories or some maintenance categories there. You can do this with the magic word__EXPECTUNUSEDCATEGORY__. [24]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 November. It will be on all wikis from 29 November (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 28 November at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
The mw.util.jsMessage() function was deprecated in 2012. It will be removed next week. Look for the warningUse of "mw.util.jsMessage" is deprecated in the JavaScript console to know if you use an affected script or gadget. If you are a gadget maintainer you should check if your JavaScript code contains mw.util.jsMessage. There is a migration guide. It explains how to use mw.notify instead. [25]
Hey hey, could you take a second look at File:The Amityville murders poster.jpg and File:The Amityville Murders poster.jpg? You had tagged them with {{di-no permission}}, but the uploader had tagged them as their own work. I removed the self licensing tags from the file just now because as an official movie poster (IMDB) for the movie, they're definitely not the user's own works. Does that mean they're good to delete as a G12? I'm not really too familiar with file deletion. I've already had to remove other copyrighted material from Amityville Exorcism--that's what motivated me to look at the files more closely. cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 22:25, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
@Cymru.lass: If (s)he had just said "own work", then it's a G12 (ideally F9 as it's a file). However they did not go down that path and said "This is the promotional poster", so they are admitting it's not theirs, and is a poster - therefore not "Unambiguous copyright infringement", we just need permission. It's a bit of a grey area, some would go F9 straight away and no one would probably complain. One could also use "No license". It's unlikely to remain. Ronhjones (Talk)22:51, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
I see where they put "promotional poster" (thus admitting it's not theirs), but they also used{{self|GFDL|cc-by-sa-4.0}} in the license section, which implies that they're claiming it's their own work, and they put their name under "author" in the summary template. But I guess it's the contradiction that makes it a grey area and not F9-eligible? cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 23:40, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
i took the photo myself in 1994. it belongs to me. The German record label (Intercord) owned the album cover art displayed in the photo is no longer in business. they went out of business many years ago. they went of business in the '90s. the maxx producer would currently be the owner of the artwork/album cover. if needed i can provide proof of this. also the photo is an image that is in the public domain. it can be easily found online just by searching in any search engine. the image is already apart of wikipedia as well
@Hansgruber1967: Copyright never dies because companies go out of business. Someone will have the copyright for at least 70 years. Images on the web are not Public Domain. If you find the copyright holder then they can donate the copyright at WP:CONSENT. File:Maxx-get-a-way single.jpg is not a free image, it's been set up as a copyrighted image for fair use, and is not available for any free re-use. Ronhjones (Talk)15:38, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
@Ronhjones: okay. no problem. like i said in my message. the maxx producer currently holds the copyright to the image/artwork now. how much time does he have to send the email using that consent form before the image gets deleted? Please advise Hansgruber1967 (talk) 18:53, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
@Ronhjones: done! so the maxx producer will soon send an email to ORTS. but he is actually on a vacation but i will instruct him to do it. . is that all that is needed? does he need to show photo ID or other documentation or something? Hansgruber1967 (talk) 21:05, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
@Ronhjones: thank you, i don't have an exact date but he will be sending an email very soon. i just called him and he is away from his home in Germany but he will soon take care of this matter. thank you for helping us with this. Hansgruber1967 (talk) 13:24, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
Nightingale Estate picture
Hi Ronhjones, I've forwarded an email between myself and the original photographer/source in respect to this to the Permissions address. I presumed that the link to the original source on flickr with CC2.0 Sharealike would be sufficient looking at other image submissions in the same vein, but I did expressively ask the source for permission to use over here, so hopefully that'll also be satisfactory? fusedpirates 09:44, 29 November 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fusedpirates (talk • contribs)
@Kailash29792: We gave up on single dimensions many years ago, we look at the pixel area. Your picture is 112320 pixels. Just leave it, the reducing bot will kick in at 06:00 and will make it (I estimate) 254x392 (99700 pixels). If you wanted, you could tight crop a few rows of pixels off the bottom left side and top, to go down to 262x399, and then there won't be any more reduction (bot will just remove banner if if finds an image <105000 pixels). Ronhjones (Talk)19:33, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
Huzlers Draft
Thank you Ronhjones, It would be an honor if you could correct the article ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Huzlers )and be moved by yourself as you are a man of experience. I'm new to Wikipedia but from the awards and mass amount of edit and your service to Wikipedia you are the man for this task.
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Respected sir,
Regarding the image of Mr.Sandeep Mudalkar I have got a Copyright clearance from the company on a official letter head duly signed. Please do help and guide me how to submit the scanned copy of letter to Wikimedia? --45.127.56.83 (talk) 05:31, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
@Olesashe: That is not easy. Firstly the flag shown has been set up as a non-free image, which means it cannot be used in the "flag" template. It needs to be a free image. I will ask a question at c:COM:VPC for you to see if we can call it a free image under PD-textlogo. If the image is free then you need to request a flag template be made at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Flag Template. Ronhjones (Talk)16:42, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Image Bot Question
Your bot has sent me the same message twice, about the same image. I noted the first time that, yes, the file was over 100 megabytes, so I reduced the size to about 89 megabytes, and am using that as the image file. For reasons I don't understand, I got that second message and I don't know why. The older, larger image is scheduled to be deleted, and the newer image should be small enough. This is the file: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jonah_Heston,_Mystery_Science_Theater_3000.jpg I don't know what's going on. Please assist. The Saxon (talk) 22:11, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
@Saxonjf: Byte size is irrelevant - that is just a function on how good the compression works and has no relevance to the size of the uncompressed image. The message tells you the image is over 100,000 pixels. You do not need to do anything, the reducing bot kicks in a 06:00 every day to fix all the big images to be just under 100,000 pixels. Ronhjones (Talk)22:52, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
By the way, that is my own work, not anyone elses. It was made by me, nor was it a "Derivative". Please unmark this file as WP:SPDY.
Thanks
Tornadosurvivor2011 11:49, 6 December 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tornadosurvivor2011 (talk • contribs)
As the company has been dissolved, please remove the image. It was supposed to go into a userbox, but it apparentley, it didn't, because of WP:COPYVIO
Tornadosurvivor2011 17:46, 6 December 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tornadosurvivor2011 (talk • contribs)
Thanks for locking Darjeeling Wikipedia page
Dear Jones,
Thanks for locking Darjeeling Wikipeida page for abrupt editing.
I am resident of Darjeeling Hills for long period of time and my forefather lived here even before Brirish came to Darjeeling. After India got independence, this hill areas were handed over to current India state of West Bengal.Post inclusion, the Hils communities faced discrimination from Bengalese ruled Govt. and this malpractice to throw out Hills communities by West Bengal govt. is still going on.
There were not a single Bengali family lived in Darjeeling Hills including Siliguri(old name Silgadi) during British rule. Post 1947 and 1971, there was huge influx of Bengali speaking people in Northern part of West Bengal primarily in Siliguri and Japlaiguri and outnumbered Hill communities Gorkhas and Lepchas.
Due to supression against Gorkhas(India born Nepalese) specially started due to which India saw violent agitation called Gorkhaland movement during 1986-1988. During this period thousands of Gorkhas killed by West Bengal Police and goons hiding in police dress. After two decades, again agitation for separate state Gorkhaland within India started from 2007 and last occured in 2017.
Due to this, Bengali ruled West Bengal Govt tried to manipulate history as much as and as far as they can to curb the agitation and trying to prove that Gorkhas are not Indians.
Darjeeling Wikipedia page modification with false data is one of such unethical activity of some communal people of West Bengal.
I would like to request you to modify below sentence(false data)
...varied culture of the town reflects its diverse demographic milieu comprising Lepcha, Khampa, Gorkha, Newar, Sherpa, Bhutia, Bengali[5] and other mainland Indian ethno-linguistic groups
With this.
varied culture of the town reflects its diverse demographic milieu comprising Gorkha, Lepcha and Bhutia.
Reason: Newar and Sherpa belong to Gorkha community. Bengalis are very limited in Darjeeling district who live as a temporary guest(official workers).However Gorkhas, Lepchas and Bhutias(aka Hills communities) live there for centuries.
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Hi, dearest Ronhjones, and thank you for your message. Sorry, I didn't understand what you wanted to say, can you explanate me? Thanks a lot and see you soon.
Sooooorryyyy!!!!! Yes, you are right, so sorry. I recognize my English is very poor, but this is an unforgettable mistake!!! :-) Thanks a lot!!! Rei Momo (talk) 22:04, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
User talk:Ronhjones/Archive 41#Non-free images being displayed at User:RonBot/NewImages
Tagged 18:12, 12 December 2018 (by me for "This file is missing evidence of permission")
Changed to NF 18:23, 12 December 2018
I'll take it out of the Bot's userpage - it won't add it back tomorrow afternoon as it's not a free image. I see others have removed images from the bot's page. I think I might add a header to the page to explain. Ronhjones (Talk)01:37, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for checking. Does that page refresh itself somehow? Can it remove files originally added as free but then subsequently converted to non-free on its own? If it can, then probably things will be sorted out on their own; if not, then someone will probably have to manually remove the file. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:00, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
This concerns your email message to me. Please see my email reply, as follows:
This photo was taken in 1929. I am the great grandson of the subject, Jean Louise Carré Hadaway. The photo was taken by her husband, William Snelling Hadaway (and the subject of the Wiki article), my great grandfather. He died in 1941. It was left by him to his daughter Hilary Stella Mary Snelling Hadaway, who was also his executor (see attached .jpeg) and also my great aunt. I was her heir and executor upon her death in 1995. The photo is now my property.
I have attached a scan of the document showing that my late great aunt was granted probate.
@Digory Piper: Part of the problem, is that you uploaded it locally. English wiki does not have the range of useful license templates that are available on commons (as we don't expect free images here any more). On commons I could use c:Template:PD-old-auto-unpublished with a death year of 1941, but it's not available here. I've tidied it up the best I can here. When I get time, I'll move it to commons and change the template. Ronhjones (Talk)00:26, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
@SDE1492: You will find that permissions will not accept forwarded e-mails - too easy to fake. They will need to get something direct from the copyright holder. Changed the banner to the correct otrs pending for you Ronhjones (Talk)18:39, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
@Ronhjones: Thank you for changing the banner for me. I can have Prof. Voth email permissions. Would that suffice? Thank you. SDE1492
@SDE1492: You need the copyright holder to e-mail the permissions. Now that does not look like a selfie to me, so the copyright belongs to the photographer, unless there is a written formal transfer of copyright. It's never easy uploading someone else's images. Ronhjones (Talk)19:47, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
@Ronhjones: You are aboslutely correct it's not a selfie. I will contact Prof. Voth and the photographer to send the license permission emailed to permissoins. Thank you. SDE1492
Voth Image
Thank you for changing the banner for me. I can have Prof. Voth email permissions.
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Edwin D. Fuller Draft Page Deleted
Hi there Ron, I see that you deleted the draft of Edwin D. Fuller. I have been working closely with the admin Jimfbleak to restore a previous article for Edwin D. Fuller. It wasn't done yet and I had been working on it for weeks to get it where it needs to be. I didn't know that a draft could be deleted. It simply wasn't ready yet but I would like to get the content back so I can continue making changes and corrections. Could you help me get the draft back please? I would really appreciate it. And your notes/comments with errors/issues are welcome because I could use the help. Thank you!
Imjustvisiting (talk) 22:54, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
@Imjustvisiting: Not deleting admin - 19:07, 13 December 2018 RHaworth deleted page Draft:Edwin D. Fuller (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of http://edwinfuller.com/about/). Unlikely to be restored as too much data is a word for word copy. The web page would need a copyright release - currently the bottom of the page says "Designed by 4Front Branding | All rights reserved". We cannot use that data with that license, all Wikipedia pages, including Drafts must not have a copyright issue. Ronhjones (Talk)23:05, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
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