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email

I am messaging to tell you I sent you an email. kardworx (talk) 06:07, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Licq

Please restore the revisions before the AfD redirect of that article (to my userspace if policy prohibits otherwise). I think it's mentioned in enough books. Also, the main delete !votes in that discussion are subject to ongoing arbitration, in which part of the issue are dubious AfD votes. In either case, you should add the link to the aft to the redirect's talk page with {{oldafdfull}}. Pcap ping 16:49, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Nobody wanted keep, so I cannot really restore it to article space, I will wp:userfy it for you and it will appear at User:Pohta ce-am pohtit/Licq shortly. I do note that Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Administrator_instructions only specifies {{oldafdfull}} for keep, not for redirects, so not appropriate here (which is probably why the closing macro I use, does not do it). I'm not sure if the ongoing arbitration will make much difference, had there been some "keeps" then maybe/maybe not - I'm not going to prejudge that. If you can address the concerns of the Afd, then it can be moved back to article space.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:47, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. Pcap ping 20:15, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

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I think a better way to deal with this is to make it a stub since it seems notable, no? Photonic crystal biosensor ErikHaugen (talk) 17:58, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Fine, the content had to be removed one way or the other due to copyright. You may find that such a small stub will also get flagged.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 18:05, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

North Queensland vandals

Three days ago you warned BillyKeys (talk · contribs) of an indef block if he vandalised again; today he created a nonsense article and put a lot of rubbish into North Queensland, so I have delivered on your threat. It's a pity that so much energy can't be put to some use, but it doesn't look as if he's able to learn what Wikipedia is about. I think he may be a sock of WorldWider12 (talk · contribs), who has a similar record and had a 48-hr block on 29 November. BillyKeys was created on 1 Dec, and Worldwider12 hasn't edited since 5 Dec. If Worldwider now springs to life again, an SPI may be called for. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 18:10, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, we can but try to help people to be good editors, if they choose to ignore...  Ronhjones  (Talk) 18:13, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Third Culture Kids

Ron, I'm not sure if I agree with the move (IMHO it should remain pluralized as that is the common form of the term) so I went ot see if the move request had been posted to the page or if I simply missed it with the holiday season. Unfortunately, I can't see the article history. Neither the article nor the talk page history have been left entact. Do you know how to fix their histories?---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 20:13, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Histories are moved with the page, not deleted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Third_culture_kid&action=history
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Third_culture_kid&action=history
 Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:18, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
The history for the article is now showing up, but the history for the talk page isn't. According to the current history, the first post was made on December 21 2009. This is not correct. I'd been working on the page since 2007 and know that there has been plenty of discussion there.---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 20:26, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
User:Skomorokh fixed it.---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 20:28, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
OK, I was just about to look for it.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:30, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, I'm raising questions on the page about the move (I am not challenging your moving it, but I disagree with the initial rationale for the move.) Unfortunately, I missed the initial request.---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 21:05, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Dear Ronhjones/Archive 4,
I just wanted to wish you and your family a happy new year, however you're celebrating it. Whether 2009 was a good year for you, or if it wasn't the greatest year, hopefully 2010 will be better. Cheers, and happy editing in 2010.

December21st2012Freak Happy New Year! at ≈ 00:06, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Ohio River Trail Council

Hey there, do you know who granted the ORTS permission to Ohiorivertrail? I'm inclined to suspect the user has some personal involvement in the Council in question, and if so, a conflict of interest. In any case, I really don't see the article having much notability. Being a more experienced Wikipedian than I, what do you think on the matter? KaySL (talk) 19:48, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

No idea - not quite my field of expertise - It was flagged as a copyvio CSD, so I went to delete it as a CSD, but saw the ticket, and therefore had to refuse. The ORTS ticket just says that the web site owner had given permission (by e-mail) for the web page contents to be used. It does not imply that the content is suitable as a Article page. There's a lot of text there, and could use a serious clean up or maybe even delete. I don't see it as anything for CSD. There's a real lack of references, it may well be non notable - maybe you would like to consider Deletion, then a consensus can be obtained as to it's merits?  Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:57, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

New message

You have new messages on my talk page.

Greetings, Jivee Blau (talk) 23:27, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

inventors, scholars

can you add inventors and scholars to the category:African scientists Kacembepower (talk) 00:30, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Suggestions...
1. Rename that category to African scientist, inventors, and scholars (but a bit long)
2. Have 3 sub-categories of African scientist for Scientist, Inventor, and Scholar
 Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:41, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

relisting tag - what does it mean?

Hi Ron. I see you entered a tag "- Relisting." for a revert to a page move from Oregon Petition back to Global Warming Petition Project. I don't know if that was a "bot", but could you explain what it means? --Knowsetfree (talk) 10:36, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

There was a lot of talk (from 3 people) and not one "support" / "oppose" / "neutral". We have the option (Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions#Determining_consensus) if the discussion has not yet reached a consensus, and might do so, to relist - i.e place a new time stamp, and 7 day clock re-starts. Also it's a holiday period, and next week might draw more editors.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:29, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
I learn something new every day. Thanks. --Knowsetfree (talk) 19:33, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

ArcAttack

I tagged this article for speedy deletion yesterday, due to the fact that it had been directly copied from the subject's webpage. It was then edited by the same user who created the article and who has stated that they are affiliated with the subject, before you declined it. While I think that the language used is now fairly neutral (although I'm not sure about the whole article with respect to the information included), the reason I came here is to get another opinion of the subject's notability and the general state of the article, and at the moment I'd rather not go straight in with an AfD. Jhbuk (talk) 19:22, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

G11 really is for SPAM, I didn't see this as spam - they are not selling any product as such, it's a band. Notability is a bit thin, but there are 3 news sites included in them - my feeling is that a speedy {{Db-band}} would probably fail - I've seen worse band articles than this which stay. You could proposed deletion, but if there are active editors then one will just remove the template (as they are entitled to do). That then leaves only WP:Afd as a way to remove it - and also gain consensus from other editors.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:41, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
I opened an (aparrently unreasonable) AFD and this occured. When I tried to suggest that Singing tesla coil was merged into tesla coil, this happened, with no discussion. I'd quite like someone else to address the problems on the AFD. Jhbuk (talk) 20:05, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
I didn't realize that a discussion had been open. I thought as though I was making a reasonable edit to the page. I am starting to get the feeling that Jhbuk is singling out my posts directly, as there are far less relevant articles on Wikipedia that go unquestioned all of the time.Epilectrik (talk) 21:05, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
As far as the validity of the references for the singing tesla coil article, please take the time to research this in google to find time stamped articles on the subject that are in fact older, this is a matter that I am certain of. The Singing Tesla Coil is a very real device, and shouldn't be disallowed a wikipedia article purely on the fact that the oldest referring articles in existence on the subject come from CNET, which in itself is a highly reliable news source that is recognized by many outfits. Jhbut's disputes on the ArcAttack wiki page had merit, but I have made all the corrections that were suggested, and have created an article that properly satisfies the criteria for a wikipedia article based on the notability requirements set forth by wikipedia for a performance group. Assistance in settling this matter would be most appreciated.Epilectrik (talk) 21:12, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Also, having the "feeling" which Jhbut has stated, that the articles do not merit notability or reliable sources shouldn't merit a dispute in this fashion. I request that any further contesting on his behalf is backed up with factual information, and time stamped articles that are in fact from more reliable sources that those provided by me, and show contrary information. In this situation this article can only be sourced by the best information available on the subject, and should not risk the existence of the article.Epilectrik (talk) 21:16, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
I don't want to be involved with this anymore. Jhbuk (talk) 21:42, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

"Biblical" username

Re this unblock decline ... I would have granted it even if it's a little grandiose; if someone disallowed from using a name referring to a specific religious organization wants to use a name referring to that religion, what's the harm? Daniel Case (talk) 17:11, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

The original block was for using a name associated with a Church, since (s)he has only edited religious topics it might become a bit controversial later, and I would not want someone else to later on apply another user name block.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:31, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
I think we have a few editors who edit primarily religious topics with usernames that proclaim their faith, whichever it is. That is not a policy violation. And we generally apply username blocks only to new users. A username that has edited for a long time is presumed to be permitted by community consensus (and believe me, every single new username gets scrutinized). Daniel Case (talk) 05:44, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
I did not apply the original block, and surely he was a new user (1/1/2010)?  Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:01, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

The TriBattery Pops edit you made was incorrect - please reverse

Hi there. JHBUK's edit of the TriBattery Pops, which was carried out, due to copyright is incorrect and you should reverse it. CD Baby holds no copyright on the out of print Daily News article which was used by the TriBattery Pops with permission of its editor, Dawn Eden for multiple web quotes. In other words, the long out of print Daily News article is now a part of the TriBattery Pops promotion and you should not have simply deleted it.

Please revise.

For further confirmation, please contact the band, which is run as a benefit for childrens' scholarships at the Church Street School for Music and Art through a return email.

To simply push through an edit by JHBUK without first checking with the author appears to be quite aggressive and seems to be unnecessary in this case. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Budfolk (talk • contribs) 16:33, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I haven't edited this page. See here. (With matters of copyright violations, though, it is always better to remove material if unsure, if its copyright status is unconfirmed, as it can be a legal matter.) Jhbuk (talk) 21:21, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
There is little point in restoring material that has text that matches other web sites - it will certainly be seen by other editors as a copyright violation and re-tagged again and again. I tried to save the page by just removing the copied material - it's still there in the history. I would suggest that you either re-write the material, or see WP:COPYREQ for details on how to obtain permission - once permission is granted, then the ORTS result can be placed on the article's talk page to show other editors that the data is not breaching copyright.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:55, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Common outcomes

Hello Dr. Jones, I was wondering the rationale for not moving WP:OUTCOMES. Was it simply that there was not unanimous consensus to move it, or something else? Thanks, ɳoɍɑfʈ Talk! 13:41, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

One "for" and one "against" - both reasonable arguments - therefore no consensus, which means no move.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:31, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

"Edwin Everett Jacques" article: request to be undeleted

Hi Ronhjones, hope all is well! Could you please undelete and place a "hangon" sign on the article Edwin Everett Jacques. It was deleted upon Wikipedia:CSD#G4, however he is a very important US historian and reverend in Albania and many of his sources can be used. I added one reference on his work and others will be added. Please note that I don't need it to be userfied (userfy). I want to have the page back so that we can discuss deletion on the talk page of it. Please use my talk page. Thanks! sulmues (talk)--Sulmues 21:09, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Replied on talk page  Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:02, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

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ABC News (America)

FYI. Someone might want to consider moving ABC News (America) back to ABC News. It was moved without discussion on 10 Jan and now there is RM request to move it back. A bit of a round-about way of addressing the issue. --Labattblueboy (talk) 06:07, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Looks like it's moved already.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:57, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

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Football templates

Ok thanks for your suggestion . It's a good idea Gnevin (talk) 17:08, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

OK, always happy to help.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 17:11, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Edit by that guy that you blocked

Just thought you might be interested to see he tried to "impersonate an admin"[2] –  MissAlyx  talk  18:26, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Nothing surprises me...  Ronhjones  (Talk) 16:24, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

User:Uskboy

This is my former account. I now have a central account Man_Usk. I did not vandal :D--Man Usk (talk) 20:03, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

We are not mind readers. Please consider using an edit summary in future, just blanking another user's page will always get reverted.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 16:26, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

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Delta Chi Chapter of Delta Kappa Epsilon

To: Wikipedia Editors slakr, DGG, C.Fred & Ronhjones Gentlemen: Please recall that we were having some discussion about the appropriateness of adding an article on the Delta Chi Chapter of Delta Kappa Epsilon to Wikipedia. I concede that an article on the Delta Chi Association (the alumni arm of the Chapter) is not necessary, but I would like to go forward with an article on the chapter. I have prepared a text that follows in this message. All sources for the material are cited. I note that Wikipedia carries many articles on specific clubs and societies in American universities. The "Dartmouth College Greek organizations" article provides subarticles on the individual Greek-letter chapters. "Eating club (Princeton University)" links to separate articles on the five bicker clubs and the five non-selective clubs in Princeton The secret honor societies of Cornell University have articles, i.e. "Sphinx Head" and "Quill and Dagger." There are individual articles on six of the eight final clubs at Harvard University. Yale University's societies, e.g. Skull and Bones" well are represented. In other words, I see ample precedent for an article on a specific college club. You will note that there is sufficient historical significance cited to warrant an article. Please advise if I may proceed. I would appreciate responses by email: bill.fogle@cox.net H. William Fogle (HWF1870) Alumni Historian, Delta Chi Association Hwf1870 (talk) 19:08, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Proposed text for Wikipedia article.

The Delta Chi Chapter of Delta Kappa Epsilon (ΔX of ΔKE) is an undergraduate social fraternity for men at Cornell University.

Historical Significance

The historic importance of this fraternity chapter derives from four attributes:

  1. the intent of its founders and architectural mentors for the Chapter to take on the role of an Oxbridge style college within an American university setting;
  2. the exceptional political and martial traditions of its membership as evidenced by the many memorials preserved in the Chapter’s lodge;
  3. the leading role played by Delta Kappa Epsilon in the Secret society movement at Cornell University (c. 1870-1930); and
  4. the number of members who achieved distinction in public life and commerce while maintaining close ties to the undergraduate establishment in Ithaca throughout their careers.

Noteworthy Events

Noteworthy events in the Chapter’s history include the following.

  • U.S. President Rutherford B. Hayes became an honorary member of Delta Kappa Epsilon in 1877 following the initiation of his three sons in the Delta Chi Chapter of DKE: Birchard Austin Hayes '74, James Webb Cook Hayes '76 (both initiated on October 7, 1873) and Rutherford Platt Hayes '80 (initiated on October 13, 1876).
  • New York State Governor Theodore Roosevelt, a Deke from the Harvard College chapter of Delta Kappa Epsilon (A of ΔKE), visited the Chapter on 20 June 1899 and planted two Norway Spruce trees to commemorate the memory of Brother Clifton Beckwith Brown ’00 who had been killed in the Battle of San Juan Hill on July 1, 1898.
  • The chapter was an active member of the Star League, the five leading secret societies at Cornell during the nineteenth century: Zeta Psi (founded 1868), Kappa Alpha Society (1868), Alpha Delta Phi (1869), Delta Kappa Epsilon (1870) and Psi Upsilon (1876). This consortium that cooperated to varying degrees with respect to social affairs, intramural athletics and rush, eventually became the Big Six with the addition of Chi Psi (1869).
  • Delta Chi Brother Mario Garcia Menocal III '88, the third President of the Republic of Cuba, invited the members of Delta Kappa Epsilon to hold their 76th DKE Convention in Havana. This assembly convened in December 1920. The Delta Chi Chapter of the fraternity was represented by a delegation of fifteen brothers. The convention elected Delta Chi Brother Stephen Byrd Horrell '21 to preside in the office of Convention President.

Distinguished Alumni

Political Leaders and Public Office Holders

Objects, Motto and Arms

Objects

The Chapter's purpose and goals accord with the original statement of the Delta Kappa Epsilon Fraternity's purpose:

The Objects of Delta Kappa Epsilon are the cultivation of general literature and social culture, the advancement and encouragement of intellectual excellence, the promotion of honorable friendship and useful citizenship, the maintenance of gentlemanly dignity, self-respect and morality in all circumstances, and the union of stout hearts and kindred interests to secure to merit its due reward. DKE handbook for Pledges (Delta Kappa Epsilon Council, 1956).

Motto

The overt motto is “Μή δοκεῖν ἀλλ᾽ εἶναι,” or in Roman transliteration, “Me Dokein All Einai,” meaning “Not to seem, but to be.” The phrase is taken from line 592 in the 467 B.C. play, Seven Against Thebes, by Aeschylus.

Arms

The armorial bearings of the Chapter are listed with the American College of Heraldry as Registration Number 715, effective as of 14 October 1987. The blazon reads as follows.

Arms.
Or, between two chevrons counterpoint, the upper Gules and the lower Azure, as many men's hearts, issuant from each and pendant overall a chain of seven links, joining them in base as their fifteenth link the interlaced Greek letters "Delta" and "Chi" Gules, counterchanged Or over the lower chevron. At fess point an inescutcheon depicting a landscape, namely, Azure, the sun rising in splendor from behind three mountains Vert, and in base Sable, therein the sun reflected wavy Argent. Above the Shield is placed a helmet with visor closed, and in Escrol below the Shield this motto: "Not to seem, but to be," in Greek Letters.

Charter, Governance and Tax Status

Charter

The Chapter was chartered by the Phi Chapter of Delta Kappa Epsilon (Φ of ΔKE) at Yale College, New Haven CT, on 11 February 1870 with an inaugural dinner held at the Clinton House on that date. Brother James Julius Chambers '70 (1850 - 1920) served as the Chapter's first president. The Chapter was subsequently incorporated in the State of [New York] as the Delta Kappa Epsilon Fraternity at Cornell University, Inc., on 5 November 1883 "for the purpose of mental, moral and social improvement." The Certificate of Incorporation was filed with the Tompkins County Clerk on 7 November 1883 and with the New York Secretary of State on 8 November 1883.

Governance

The undergraduate organization (1) operates a fraternal association, (2) manages a residence facility, (3) runs a dining service, and (4) conducts social entertainments for the benefit of its active members and alumni. The Chapter is organized and governed in accordance with Chapter Bylaws that were last revised and ratified on 29 January 2009. In addition, members are bound by the provisions of subordinate House Rules that govern conduct, discipline, decorum and other such matters.

Federal and State Tax Status

The Chapter is a tax exempt public charity in accordance with Title 26 U.S.C. (Internal Revenue Code) §501(c)7 per a group ruling letter issued to the Delta Kappa Epsilon Council in January 1943. The chapter is recognized as a "not for profit" corporation by the New York State's Division of Corporation Records in a letter dated 23 April 1987.

Historical Resources

DKE Depository

The records, correspondence, publications and selected artifacts of the Chapter are held in the DKE Depository (Collection #37-4-1535) maintained by the Cornell University Library's Rare and Manuscript Collections Department under terms set forth in a formal Memorandum of Understanding dated 29 February 1988 and executed on 4 March 1988. The Depository holds the original 1870 Charter. Black & white and color photographic images of this document are filed as N4279 and N4317, respectively. A replacement charter, also held in the ΔKE Depository, was issued by the Sixty-Second ΔKE Convention held at Hartford CT, 12-13 November 1908. Black & white and color photographic images are filed as N4280 and N4318, respectively.

Publications

The chapter publishes The Delta Chi Deke newsletter (ISSN #0895-5255, registered on 10 September 1987 with the Library of Congress National Serials Data Program) under the direction of an undergraduate editor and distributes same to all alumni and friends of Delta Chi. Back issues dating from Volume I, Number 1 (May 1935), are held in the DKE Depository.

Chapter House and Grounds

The 13 South Avenue property (City of Ithaca tax parcel #31-1-10) and the lodge thereon known as the Deke House (Cornell Facility #4719) are owned by Cornell University. The lodge has been listed on the National Register of Historic Places managed by the U. S. Department of the Interior, National Park Service, since 11 January 1991 consequent to a petition filed by The Delta Chi Association on 20 August 1988. The lodge has also been listed on the New York State Register of Historic Places managed by the New York State Office of Parks, Recreation and Historic Preservation, since 3 December 1990 as a result of a collateral petition filed on 25 September 1988. The Deke House was designated as a Local Landmark in accordance with the City of Ithaca Landmarks Preservation Ordinance by unanimous approval of the City of Ithaca Common Council on 15 January 2003. The two Roosevelt Spruce Trees (Norway Spruce, picea abies) standing on the west lawn are listed on The New York State Registry of Famous and Historic Trees administered by the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation.

Alumni Organization

The Delta Chi Association is the alumni arm of the Chapter.

References

  1. Fogle, Homer William Jr. (5 Dec 2006)."Chapter and Alumni Operations Handbook, 2006"
  2. Fogle, Homer William Jr. (7 Feb 2009)."Articles of Governance: Effective and in Force on 29 January 2009"
  3. Fogle, Homer William Jr. (25 Nov 2005). The Deke House at Cornell: a concise history of the Delta Chi Chapter of Delta Kappa Epsilon, 1870-1930
  4. Fogle, Homer William Jr. (2 Jul 2006). "DX of DKE Special Study #04: The Roosevelt Spruce Trees"
  5. Fogle, Homer William Jr. (1993). Cornell Deke House --A History of the 1893 Lodge. Ithaca NY: The Delta Chi Association. Copies are located in the Cornell University Library (+LJ75/.315/ 1993Z), the DeWitt Historical Society of Tompkins County NY (728.4 7655, accession #1994.9.1) and the Library of Congress (LJ75 .D315 1993, LC Control No.: 94226682).
  6. The Heraldic Register of America, IV, p. 64 (Delta Chi Chapter of Delta Kappa Epsilon).

I would appreciate responses by email: bill.fogle@cox.net H. William Fogle (HWF1870) Alumni Historian, Delta Chi Association Hwf1870 (talk) 19:08, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Wrongful Deletion of CTF Tracker

It shows in the deletion log for CTF Tracker that you have deleted my post. I work for CollabNet as a Technical Marketing Manager and I was instructed to post this information about our issue tracker. Would you please be so kind as to re-issue the post on Wikipedia?

If you would like to find out more about myself as a representative of CollabNet or about the post I placed please leave a message on my page.

P.S. Once you have re-posted the CTF Tracker article would you please drop me a message and let me know.

Best Regards, Thank You Fvenegas (talk) 18:38, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Replied on user's talk page, but the deletion was not wrongful.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 21:43, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

CTF Tracker

Thank you for the insight and response. I was not aware of some of the things you have mentioned. May I ask, what is the proper way to create an article...will using the article wizard be a better solution to posting an article?

FV —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fvenegas (talk • contribs) 17:42, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the information.

I will follow the steps you have suggested for a proper post.

~fv —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fvenegas (talk • contribs) 19:53, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

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Global Warming Petition Project - "Oregon Petition"

First, I hope your eye gets better. You mentioned that you were going move the name of the article "Global Warming Petition Project" away from "Oregon Petition". Just trying to find out if your preliminarily stated intention was reversed, and if so why. One would think an items actual name would take precedence except in unusual circumstances, or when the subject represented itself under the nickname. As far as wikipedia's naming policy goes, when determining the "most usually known" name, could derogatory nicknames ever have equal consideration versus an actual name? The current article name discussion is burdened by obvious POV bias associated with the nickname. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.101.141.120 (talk) 21:38, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Eye is fine (after 6 weeks), face is not - they gave me fusidic acid ointment, which I found out (by using it) that I was allergic to it, so rather inflamed face and neck, which is slowly improving... Anyway, I did threaten to move the page, hoping that it might bring out more comments - all it did was to increase the "opposes", so I had to close with no consensus (it had been listed long enough. At the moment "Oregon Petition" gets more hits on Google variations than "Global Warming Petition Project", so it's rather hard to state that "Global Warming Petition Project" is the WP:COMMONNAME. However one of the main web pages (http://www.oism.org/pproject/) has the "Global Warming Petition Project" title in it's web page - I think it will be just a question of time before "Global Warming Petition Project" become the common name, and then I would suggest another WP:RM.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:04, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

M. Pat Korb, edits August 2009

This page no longer exists, so this may be a moot point. The page, M. Pat Korb, referenced my mother, Margaret P. Korb, who passed away at that time of pancreatic cancer. I did not create the page; and it contained many inaccuracies, incomplete references, and 3rd-grader typos by some person(s) who obviously did not know her, personally or professionally. When I attempted to make corrections, this resulted in notes from a Wikipedia person which I found additionally and unnecessarily insulting and offensive. This reply is mainly to thank you for the politeness of your note regarding my “edits” and their context. Thank you. John P Korb —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.101.69.226 (talk) 23:53, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

User:Lime987/Mangalore Club is not getting approved

Hi Sir,

I have been trying to get my article at "User:Lime987/Mangalore Club" approved since many days but I have not succeeded yet. At this point I seek your help. Is anything wrong in the code "{move draft}" I am using. I have created an article using the article wizard and now I am trying to move it from user space to the main space(i.e I want the article to go live after being approved). Could you please let me know why exactly my article is not being reviewed? I am new to wikipedia though my article is pending there since many days. I tried researching on 'how to move the article from userspace to mainspace' but I was not able to understand much with the available information on this topic :( .

Thanks in advance, @$# 06:23, 26 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lime987 (talk • contribs)

I see you applied a {{move draft}} template - that relies on normal editors to look at the page and decide on whether to move it or not, there is quite a backlog here (this work is not done by admins - it doesn't show up on the admin backlog).
I think that a better plan is to post a message at WP:FEED - I think you will get a faster response. When the page is ready to be moved (I don't think so yet - see below), then you can either
  1. Set up a requested move OR
  2. Move it yourself - at the top of every page is a "move" tab, just click that and enter a new name for that page, then click the "move Page" box on that page - and it will be moved.
Current status of page - I will remove the {{move draft}} for you, as someone may see it and decide to set it for deletion! - It needs to have more references - in particular in-line references are absent. I've added a welcome template with useful links on your talk page - see the "citing sources" one for how to do references.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 02:02, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi,

Thank you so much for your reply.

I will work on the points you have brought to notice.

Thanks, @$# 11:55, 1 February 2010 (UTC) Ashwin —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lime987 (talk • contribs) 11:55, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Mass page moves

Thanks for closing the move request at Talk:Killer whale. As you may have noticed, it was a test case for a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cetaceans on the capitalisation of cetacean species names. We have a consensus to move to sentence case, but there are around eighty articles that we have to go through (see User:Swift/CETA). Can we simply request a mass-page-move? How would we go about that? --Swift (talk) 21:07, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

If you look at WP:RM - you will see the alternative template for multiple page moves. Pick a suitable "main" page as the "number 1" - as all talk will be done on that one page.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:45, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, should have seen that. Thanks for the help anyway. Move request now up at Talk:Bowhead_Whale#Requested_move. --Swift (talk) 01:35, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

ACB

Re 209.106.220.2 - don't you think allowing account creation will just give them another way to continue their vandalism? –xenotalk 19:45, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Oops, yes my mistake. Well spotted.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:48, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Cheers, –xenotalk 21:27, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

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98.100.74.196

For some reason, i keep receiving emails about editing Wikipedia pages. I have only edited one, which had falsely added me too field high school —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.100.74.196 (talk • contribs) 23:30, 4 February 2010

Strange that there are 4 warnings on your talk page for edits to 4 different pages...  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:46, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Natalie bryant

Hey Ron, you just deleted this nonsense (thanks!), but just as I was retemplating: after looking over it, I saw it was pure vandalism (you can still see this, I guess), and I was going to tell the person to please not do that again. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 00:55, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

It's been deleted before, if it happens again, and I see it, I may salt it.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:57, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Patent Nonesense

I am sorry Ron, but Campaign :smile: was not Patent nonesense. Nor was it a farce or any kind of "joke" other than it was created in the lightest of hearts.

I am sorry Ron, but I cannot conclude your deletion of a perfectly comprehensible article was a decision motivated by a disagreement of the principle of the article and no amount of "inability" to understand the content.

If at all possible could you please replace it. I have links to it, and hopefully so do other people. I am rather hurt that something I worked very carefully on was declared "Nonesense" ... it was not nonesense. Disagree with the need for Campaign :smile: if you want to, and feel free to pen a polemic against it - but please do not abuse your ability to delete perfectly comprehensible contributions to convey your opinion of my idea.

Yes. I am very serious. I am insulted.

Please alert me @ shea.reinke@gmail.com when you have had a chance to respond - I very rarely actually log into wikipedia. I rarely feel the need to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SheaReinke (talk • contribs) 13:14, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

The page that was deleted did not have a snowballs chance of being able to stay on Wikipedia. It was declared "nonsense" by User:Andyjsmith. It is extremely unlikely that the page could ever be notable. Anyway I will userfy if for you at User:SheaReinke/Campaign :smile:, but it may not last long.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:57, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for reconstituting my submission. May I ask that you weigh in on the "nonesense" verdict. It is a short article (for now) that I hope to eventually transform into a grammatical movement. Have you read the article and do you agree with "this andyjsmith's" opinion? If so could you take the time to explain in more detail than he did? I consider the article perfectly intelligible.

SheaReinke (talk) 05:35, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

There are a limited number of types of WP:CSD - G1 is just one of them. The page (as it stands) could very easily be thought to be nonsense, I know that some editors would call such a page a G3 (hoax), or A1 (No context) or A3 (No content). I doubt is A7 (No indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content)) is allowed for such a page, as it's range is limited. What tag is used for the CSD is not that important, so long as it approximates to the content. A proper notable page with appropriate sources, is very unlikely to be given a CSD tag, and if it was, it would be refused. The page as it stands will not pass those tests, and if it was seen in Article space would be deleted one way or the other (If no suitable CSD was appropriate then it would soon end up in Articles for deletion).  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:15, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

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Replaced image

Hello -

I have been creating an article on Joel Iskowitz, which is still in sandbox form. I had uploaded an image given to me by the artist - the file is Iskowitz_SL_stamp_Scott_589.jpg - and I had limited license granted by the artist. The edit history of the image shows that you deleted it with the code "F3: Media file with improper license."

I've now replaced the image with my own original scan from a stamp I purchased, and have granted free public use - no claims of copyright - for the image.

I left the file name the same - not sure if that was a good idea or not - but I'm not clear about how it can be shown again on my sandbox, which I wish to publish ASAP.

Could you please help me? I'm not sure if I did the correct thing here, and I don't know what step to take next. Maxschlepp (talk) 14:06, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Tricky (images often are...) Limited licenses are not allowed - because Wikipedia's license is basically that "anyone can copy the content", so any image must be released (or donated) on a full Creative Commons license, except fair use images. Your scan of a stamp might fall into "fair use" (may depend on how old it is). But note that Fair use images can only be used for the Articles that they claim on the image page - cannot be used in a sandbox! Can I suggest you post a question at the appropriate help page (WP:IMAGEHELP), there will be more editors with better knowledge of the Wikipedia copyright rules who will be only to glad to help you.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:15, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Fraud is Fraud

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=yes+men+fraud&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 Fascist 173.139.90.196 (talk) 22:36, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about the edits...

Hi there, Sorry about the edits on the Mary Janice Davidson book - I was just really surprised to read the stub about the novel. It contains the entire plot, every twist, including the ending. I've never run into this on Wiki before and it was very disappointing.

72.93.92.213 (talk) 22:55, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

OK, Note that there are plenty of books/films full of spoilers - see WP:SPOILERS  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:56, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Richard Kastle

You have probably seen the Speedy Deletion message on the Richard Kastle talk page but I haven't seen one reaction at all. Therefore a message or a vote one way or the other is lacking. Richard Kastle is a wannabe pianist, unknown beyond his extremely limited viewing on youtube.

He now plays Holiday Inns and nursing homes for free.

His attempts to play the piano are a joke to any serious pianist.

Unfortunately, so few view his wikipedia article to justify the normal deletion process by vote.

Juri Koll is the only present editor of the Kastle article, and has caused immeasurable damage to the talk pages of other editors such as User Prof.rick, who, as a final measure had to delete his own talk page.

PLEASE, look into the Richard Kastle page and decide fairly if its presence in wikipedia can possibly be justified.

Why does Juri Koll claim to be the creator of this article while the page history indicates that Mike Caffey created the article? I suspect sock puppetry, probably conducted by Kastle himself. I therfore URGE a thorough investigation of the article by wikipedia administrators.

Thank You for listening,

Randyrhoads1fan (talk) 23:07, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

There is no CSD tag on the article page, that's why no one has taken any action - see WP:CSD for how to tag for speedy deletion. However, with so many references, it is unlikely to survive a CSD. The only option to delete it would be to nominate for deletion - see WP:AfD.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:12, 9 February 2010 (UTC)


Thanks

For reverting the vandalism on my talk page. All that because I reverted some vandalism! Dear me! Hope your eye is better :) --5 albert square (talk) 23:09, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

No problem. (and slowlyyyy healing!)  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:12, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

dude thx alot 4 rattin me out. i can't make any more funnies. leave a message on my page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Guitarluvr21 (talk • contribs) 23:29, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

The Association for Akha Education and Culture in Thailand

I'm curious as to your reasoning for reverting what appears to be an attempt to remove the copyvio text. 76.102.12.35 (talk) 23:46, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Because we have not got a crystal ball to know why an editor is deleting material from an article - that's the function of the edit summary, when left blank, we have to make up our own minds (and large deletes, with no summary are 99.9% vandalism). Vandal fighters do not "see" the whole page, just the changes and the edit summary - see File:Huggle.png for an example.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:54, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps I wasn't clear. I haven't edited the article, I'm aquainted with Huggle (and it's drawbacks), and you haven't explained why you reintroduced copyvio material when the previous editor removed it. (Unless you're blaming Huggle?)76.102.12.35 (talk) 23:58, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi - copyright material info

Dear wikipedia. I would like to inform that I am the copyright owner of the written material found here- http://www.akhaasia.org/index-7.htm I am the NGO's coordinator and author of the material and its webpage. Many thanks Jacob Lane —Preceding unsigned comment added by Afect (talk • contribs) 23:56, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

No good telling me, I'm afraid. I have no way of checking if you are really the copyright owner. The material must be donated correctly. Please see WP:DCM for instructions.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:59, 9 February 2010 (UTC)


Hi. Ok. How about I put something on the page http://www.akhaasia.org/index-7.htm now that proves I am the copyright owner. I will open dreamweaver and type something which can be changed later. What would you like me to type?

Tnx

Jacob —Preceding unsigned comment added by Afect (talk • contribs) 00:04, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

You can find data at http://creativecommons.org/choose/ - which will give you the the following html to add to the page bottom <a rel="license" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/"><img alt="Creative Commons License" style="border-width:0" src="http://i.creativecommons.org/l/by/3.0/88x31.png" /></a><br />This work is licenced under a <a rel="license" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/">Creative Commons Licence</a>.

Many thanks. I think its best I email permissions-en@wikimedia.org because I don't want to put a license statement on the site.

Im in England now and want to sleep so Ill do it tomorrow! 


Many thanks

Jacob —Preceding unsigned comment added by Afect (talk • contribs) 00:21, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

OK. No problem. Sleep? It's only half past midnight! :-)  Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:25, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Block of user:Lordgodable

The user was removing rape allegations which he himself earlier inserted, and which was referenced to a dead link. Was that removal enough reason for a block ? (well, the user created an AFD-nominated the article in the first place, but many editors start this way :-) Materialscientist (talk) 00:09, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

It was a bit odd. One link was just fine. He had been well warned by User:antiuser, and told to discuss on talk page, I only managed the last and fifth revert (3RR could have been also used here!).  Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:25, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Clark Middle School

Hey there -- just noting that you seemed to have rolled Clark Middle School back to the wrong version. There is an IP editor who's reverting the vandalism, and it seems that you may have mistaken it as vandalism. I fixed it, though! Happy editing :] -- GorillaWarfare talk 01:45, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

There was so many vandal edits, it was hard to sort out the wood from the trees.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 01:46, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Why did you delete my article about Mgem? This is a serious topic about a slang term used in the Philadelphia area. I live here and feel discriminated against by you deleting this page. Mind you I also spent around an hour working on that page's contents. Don't take offense to this but strictly according to your username, you obviously have no idea what its like living in Philadelphia. Please tell me why. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Loggy616 (talk • contribs) 02:16, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

I feel discriminated by the fact that you deleted my article discussing Mgem. Judging from your username, I believe you have no idea what its like growing up in Philadelphia. I want an explanatory reason as to why it was deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Loggy616 (talk • contribs) 02:22, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Swockmusic

I have counseled Swockmusic (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) with respect to conflict of interest and created iamchrisstone (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) for them to use to edit with. Fred Talk 14:45, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

OK fine, I was just about to reply to an e-mail from him (obviously sent some time earlier) - I'll skip that task now.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:21, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Mgem

Why did you delete my article about Mgem? This is a serious topic about a slang term used in the Philadelphia area. I live here and feel discriminated against by you deleting this page. Mind you I also spent around an hour working on that page's contents. Don't take offense to this but strictly according to your username, you obviously have no idea what its like living in Philadelphia. Please tell me why. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Loggy616 (talk • contribs) 16:46, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Where do I start...
  1. It was tagged for speedy deletion as a hoax by User:Simon-in-sagamihara
  2. It was not laid out as per Manual of style
  3. There was not a single reference to back it up - therefore it was always likely to be deleted, articles must be notable to survive.
To help you proceed with editing I will..
  1. Move the deleted article into your user space - it will be found at User:Loggy616/Mgem, when I finished doing it.
  2. I'll add a standard welcome template to your talk page, which has many useful links to Wikipedia policies, to assist you in ensuring that your page will be suitable.
When you have finished your page, then all you need to do is move the page.
P.S. I have worked in the Philadelphia area for a short time.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Aziz

My edits weren't "unconstructive", that's how the character's name is spelled. 24.21.198.16 (talk) 23:18, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

So it it, how confusing. My apologies. Template removed from your talk page.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:22, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Would you mind reverting your edits as well? 24.21.198.16 (talk) 23:25, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism?

What vandalism? I was just trying to help people understand how fascism works. 70.3.55.12 (talk) 23:59, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Another vandal just itching for a block...  Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:09, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Now, I know you can block this IP, but shouldn't you have a REASON first? Come on...I just want to make a couple reasonable edits, and you're making my points for me, gentlemen? 70.3.55.12 (talk) 00:13, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Edits were not reasonable. End of story. Now stop WP:NOTFORUM  Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:16, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
WP:RBI  Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:27, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Tenacious little shit...

...innit he? HalfShadow 00:28, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

There's always one...  Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:29, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
The beauty of it is, all he's doing is adding to my edit count... HalfShadow 00:40, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
LOL. I don't need it - My automated count almost killed my RFA.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:41, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

My first in awhile

Because you have dealt with so much shit lately, I give this to you....

The Barnstar of Diligence
For pissing off so many IP addresses his talk page has been vandalized :) DustiSPEAK!! 00:56, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Iditarod Trail Sled Dog Race

he is from switzerland not alaska —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.73.70.93 (talk) 00:56, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

So he is, sorry, now reverted all.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 01:01, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Hereford High School (Parkton, Maryland)

Hi, lately I have been trying to update my high school's page with factual information. I see that you reverted my updates, so if you could please accept them it would be much appreciated. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.107.98.137 (talk) 19:22, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

The only edit of yours I reverted was "[pronounced-Shmeg-meh]", which is obviously incorrect. If there are any others then you must have used a different IP address, and I cannot therefore comment on other errors.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:47, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Whales

I replied on my talk: Ucucha 23:23, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Scott Green (American football official)

According to WP:Requested moves/Closing instructions, you are supposed to evaluate the discussion at Talk:Scott Green (American football official)#Requested move "just like any other discussion on Wikipedia", keeping in mind that "the quality of an argument is more important than whether it comes from a minority or a majority." Since all you wrote when you closed the request was "Page Not Moved" it is unclear whether you performed the evaluation mentioned in the instructions. I could re-open the request in order to get more details on your rationale but I wanted to check with you first to better understand the reason for your decision. Thanks. 68.165.77.188 (talk) 12:42, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Please reply at Talk:Scott Green (American football official). Thanks. 68.165.77.188 (talk) 12:43, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

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Carl Sagan edit

First of all i hope this is the right place, i find it difficult to navigate these talk pages. Anyway, why did you remove the picture at the end of carl sagans page? I'm sure carl would have seen the funny side, he was a stoner anyway so it's not just nonesense. Please try to see the fun side of things =] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.65.99 (talk) 23:38, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

It not a fun site. Try MySpace and Facebook.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:39, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Why can't it be fun and informative at the same time? Isn't that what mr sagans series 'cosmos' was so popular for? Honestly, you wikipedia admins are basically the vorgons from hitchikers guide to the galaxy. It's depressing to see people actively destroy humour in articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.65.99 (talk) 23:41, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Edit: i hope the message i sent got to you, a link to 'pale blue dot' (see here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wupToqz1e2g) the line 'our imagined self importance' rings especially true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.65.99 (talk) 23:51, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

User:Stipstap1983, block IP as well?

Hello, I see you blocked User:Stipstap1983 regarding edits at Bill Handel. It might be appropriate to block 24.14.68.100 as well since that appears to be where Stipstap1983 started. Wine Guy~Talk 23:09, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

It maybe one and the same. We cannot tell for sure. IP is up to Warning3, only two more edits needed...  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:11, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
OK, I was just thinking along the lines of WP:DUCK. I'll be watching. Cheers! Wine Guy~Talk

Jeffrey Hunter

Hi,

I don't understand why you edit the article on Jeffrey Hunter that i add. He was known as Hank McKinnies from a young age right through school, and ever after to his very close friends. Why do you have a problem with this.

Regards

Paul —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rebok2001 (talk • contribs) 00:14, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

So you say, if it was so common then it would be easy to provide a reference that uses it.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:19, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Jeffrey Hunter.

Hi again,

Ok i am new at this, advise me on what i must do to add genuine articles. There is much more about Jeff Hunter that is not mentioned. All good. My uncle met him while serving in the Royal Navy in 52. They made Sailor Of The King USA( Single Handed ) UK.

Regards

Paul —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rebok2001 (talk • contribs) 00:30, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Just find a good reference (on the web, or a text book, etc. - but no blog sites, as they are written by anybody), and add that data with your edit by adding <ref>Reference Details</ref> after it - for correct formatting of the reference details, see the page at WP:CITE which shows how to set it up for different media. (P.S. Avoid leading spaces in lines - it causes Wikipedia to put grey boxes around the text, and it won't wrap.)  Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:40, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Wilfred Owen

Sorry there was an edit conflict. I was removing one of the earlier bits of vandalism in the poetry section, and didn't see that the image was screwed up. NtheP (talk) 22:19, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

I already guessed it was something like that. Anyway, the vandal is blocked now.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:20, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

nothing really

this website is inaccurate because people can post opinions and kids like me use this as a fact website! So with that being said i think that you shoul make this a facts only website! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.114.218.233 (talk) 04:55, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

I could not agree more. That is why you will see that the last userbox on my page is {{User anti-anon}}  Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:53, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Re. User:24.29.233.163

You might want to revoke talk access while they're blocked... see [3]. XXX antiuser eh? 23:40, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the information, now blocked.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:44, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the user page revert the other day. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:08, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Another vandal raised his head above the parapet... and I see is now blocked. :-)  Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:35, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Hmm

All this time I've seen you on my watchlist, I didn't realize you were an administrator until the Dudemeister raised his vandal-ridden head! Wildhartlivie (talk) 21:21, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Only for a few months now My RfA (and only just made it!).  Ronhjones  (Talk) 21:24, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

sorry

sorry for vandilizing guild wars. it just ticks me off that it coppied world of warcraft and please dont erase my article about Taco-Man cause it is really true —Preceding unsigned comment added by Monkey1378 (talk • contribs) 21:29, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

removal of tag

It appears I do not know the proper way to remove a tag. This is why you perhaps reverted my change. Please help me with the proper procedure to remove a tag —Preceding unsigned comment added by John williams 7 (talk • contribs) 21:37, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

There is no tag? You blanked an entire page Template:Advert/doc, which is the documention section for Template:Advert. I see nothing there to delete.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 21:41, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks and my apologies

I did not realize I was removing the doc section. My apologies. I am trying to remove the tag from page titled Nigam Arora. Can you help me with the proper tecnical procedure to remove the tag? —Preceding unsigned comment added by John williams 7 (talk • contribs) 21:47, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

I assume that you have improved the article enough to allow the tag removal? If so, just open the page for editing and remove the {{Advert|date=January 2010}} at the top of the page.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 21:53, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Ron, Some feedback - this article reads like an advert still. I have reverted the removal of the advert tag. For a personal article, it needs a lot of work. Ian Cairns (talk) 14:04, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Ron, I have given the article a major overhaul and it now has a neutral tone. I have therefore removed the advertising tags. Thanks, Ian Cairns (talk) 14:19, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Iranian destroyer Jamaran

The section is Original Research. The infobox is false citation. The sources clearly state "destroyer". The sources do not mention "frigate". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.172.210.153 (talk) 22:20, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

You are correct. All actions reverted. Sorry for misunderstanding.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:26, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. Considering that I was edit warring, I can't really complain. 199.172.210.153 (talk) 22:29, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Greetings & thanks!

Thanks for helping out on my userpage.--Technopat (talk) 22:58, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Always happy to pop a vandal or two.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:30, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Iranian destroyer Jamaran 2

Hello there, I would like to officially protest and dispute the facts in the article. The sources are provably incorrect on this subject.

This vessel is claimed by Iran to be a destroyer however it is smaller and less well armed than virtually every other modern destroyer on the planet today.

In fact it is smaller and less well armed than most modern frigates in existence such as the Meko 200, Meko 360, Kortenaer and many more.

Also someone incorrectly added that it is a guided missile destroyer which is a gross exaggeration and mis-characterization and is not in any way supported by the sources cited such as Fox News or CNN or Businessweek.

I have been studying military history for nearly 30 years and have verified from 3 original sources that the designation is incorrect by modern standards.

Source 0: Jane's Warship Recognition Guide ISBN-13 978-0-06-084992-4 http://www.amazon.com/Janes-Warship-Recognition-Guide-Anthony/dp/0060849924/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1266620198&sr=8-1

Source 1: The encyclopedia of Warships ISBN 1-59223-627-8 http://www.amazon.com/Encyclopedia-Warships-World-War-Present/dp/1592236278/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1266620420&sr=8-1

Source 2: Fighting Ships of the world ISBN 1-9046687-01 Parameter error in {{ISBN}}: checksum-6

Source 3: wikipedia - various articles


Modern Destroyer classes include:

Iroquois, Canada, 5300 tons Prat, Chile, 6200 tons Luda I/II/III, China, 3250 tons Luhai, China, 6000 tons Luhu, China, 4600 tons Luyang I/II, China, 7000 tons Type 051C, China, 7000 tons Cassard, France, 4230 tons Georges Leygues, France, 4300 tons Horizon, France/Italy, 6700 tons Suffren, France, 5335 tons Tourville, France, 4650 tons Delhi, India, 6700 tons Audace, Italy, 3600 tons De La Penne, Italy, 4330 tons Asagiri, Japan, 4200 tons Haruna, Japan, 4950 tons Hatakaze, Japan, 6400 tons Hatsuyuki, Japan, 3700 tons Kongou, Japan, 7250 tons Murasame, Japan, 4550 tons Shirane, Japan, 5200 tons Tachikaze, Japan, 3850 tons Yamagumo, Japan, 2150 tons STD 2900 tons full load KDX-2, South Korea, 4800 tons KDX-1, South Korea, 3855 tons Gearing / FRAM-1, World War II vintage, US, South Korea, Mexico, Pakistan, Taiwan, 3540 tons 119m in length De Zeven Provincien, Netherlands, 6048 tons Ferre, Peru, 2800 tons Kashin, Former USSR, Russia, India, 4010 tons Sovremenny, Former USSR, Russia, India, 6500 tons Udaloy, Former USSR, Russia, 6700 tons Udaloy II, Former USSR, Russia, 7700 tons Kidd, US, Taiwan, 9574 tons Type 42 Batch 3, UK, 5200 tons Type 42 Batch 1 & 2, UK, 4100 tons Daring / Type 45 class, UK, 7350 tons Spruance, US, 8040 tons Arleigh Burke, US, 8315 tons


There was plenty of evidence cited indicating the sources are in fact provably wrong.


Thank you,

National Security Geek —Preceding unsigned comment added by National security geek (talk • contribs) 23:19, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

The sections that were added contained no references. As such that tends to make it original research which is not permitted. Add properly formatted references to reliable sources to the sections and then it is likely to be accepted.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:24, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for reverting the vandalism on my user page; and fighting vandalism in general :)Mohamed Magdy, Thank You! (talk) 23:29, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind message.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:30, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Iranian destroyer Jamaran 3

Are the 4 sources I mentioned acceptable? If not, what do you suggest?

Thank you,

National Security Geek —Preceding unsigned comment added by National security geek (talk • contribs) 23:39, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Sources 1-3 look fine, they just have to be used as in-line references (see WP:CITE), to show which fact is in which book. Internal links do not count.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:43, 19 February 2010 (UTC)


The citations with titles, authors and ISBN numbers have been added.

Is it necessary to add page numbers?

Thank you for your help,

National Security Geek —Preceding unsigned comment added by National security geek (talk • contribs) 00:10, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia Page Gloria Calderon Kellett

Hello Editor,

I removed the link/reference to a video. I now understand that that is not allowed.

I currently work for Gloria Kellett. We're trying to make her page more informative. I'm new at HTLM and Wikipedia, so this has certainly been a challenge. What else on her page needs to be fixed?

Thanks! Stephanie Guzman —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephguzman (talk • contribs) 00:58, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

No. Your edit was "23:54, 19 February 2010 (hist | diff) Dave Kellett ‎ (←Blanked the page)" - that's the edit I reverted. Users cannot delete pages, if it needs deleting then please see WP:DP. As for editing Gloria Kellett, I have to point out that it's not recommended for editors to edit Articles that they have an strong link to - please check out WP:COI. Note particularly the paragraph Editors with COIs are strongly encouraged to declare their interests, both on their user pages and on the talk page of any article they edit, particularly if those edits may be contested. Most Wikipedians will appreciate your honesty. Editors who disguise their COIs are often exposed, creating a perception that they, and perhaps their employer, are trying to distort Wikipedia.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 01:06, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Spoken word

Thank you for patrolling wikipedia but please don't remove comments from talk pages that are not obvious vandalism, even if they have anonymous authors. Not every wiki editor logs in every time... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.199.158.46 (talk) 07:46, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

If you look carefully, I changed nothing overall. I had a problem with huggle being a bit slow on page update, which resulted in your edit being reverted in error, but I rolled it all back immediately. Following that the automatic SineBot added an unsigned template to your edit.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:13, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

David Blanchflower vandal

The David Blanchflower vandal has resumed his childishness from his mobile phone. You may need to semi-protect again. Nunquam Dormio (talk) 19:08, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, time not to wait and nip it in the bud.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 21:08, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Caribou and Dick Manitoba

First of all. Thank you, Zhang He, GB, and D!2000 for your attention. If you did nothing else, I'd be grateful to all of you. Next, 66.65.94.122 and his likely sockpuppet, Richeye, did it again. Is a blocking and protection possible? Thanks. Note, you might as well reply to me here as my IP is that of a Library computer.

-) Thanks again.205.189.194.208 (talk) 14:30, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
About the Caribou and Dick Manitoba vandal and sockpuppet
I’ve asked this question:

How do I deal with this edit fight?

I’ve also pasted this message on to the following talk pages:
User talk:Dl2000
User talk:GB fan
User talk:Richeye
User talk:Zhang He,
and, of course,
User talk:66.65.94.122.
70.54.181.70 (talk) 17:55, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
A couple of suggestions. Have a read of WP:GAIAV, also look at some of the links at the top, they may be of assistance - possibly WP:AN - as to a better place to post this problem. That would bring your problem to the attention of many more administrators, experienced in those problems, than just picking a few to talk to. Also do consider making an account - it's quite free and can be used on any computer that you wish to log in - it's sometimes hard to follow who is doing what, when the IP addresses keeps changing, in addition one will then build up an account history to show their quality and policy knowledge (you just have to remember to log out - and, at login, not check the "remember for 30days box"!). Should you manage to prove a high degree of IP vandalism, then you would be a position to ask for semi-page protection at WP:RFPP - thus blocking all IP edits.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:32, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. I will print out your links. I have added to my original Help Desk question. I figure he's using about 4, possibly 5 accounts, to vandalize. I've forked the content of Caribou (musician) to Wikinfo.70.54.181.70 (talk) 19:26, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Proposed move of Up in the Air (film).

I must say I am truly baffled by your decision not to move Up in the Air (film). It not only goes against the consensus reached in the discussion about the proposed move. It also goes against what I see as a clear pattern on Wikipedia of not having redirects as primary topics. I am also somewhat concerned about the way you stated to have reached the conclusion not move the page, by a simple google search. Because if you look through the pages of the hits you get by searching for "up in the air" book -wikipedia you will see that a lot of them actually are about the movie. Also as it was brought up in the discussion about the move, the article about the book Up in the Air was actually created because of the movie, which might indicate that the book on its own was not even notable enough to have been included on Wikipedia had it not been for the movie.

I must admit, I am not too familiar with rules about what an administrator on Wikipedia can and can not do. But I will say that it seems to me like a very bad practice to just go in as administrator and overrule a consensus reached in a discussion. I would say that if you happened to disagree with that consensus you should instead have weighed in during the discussion. Not just overrule it afterwards. TheFreeloader (talk) 16:17, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

I completely agree with TheFreeloader. Your role as admin in closing the discussion for a requested move is to determine the consensus of others. Instead, you basically determined the move by casting your own !vote, overriding everyone else. Erik (talk) 17:42, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Replied on film's talk page.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:43, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

...for reverting the vandalism on my user page twice in 5 minutes! —KuyaBriBriTalk 21:54, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Those vandals keep raising their heads above the parapet...  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:02, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Question about oversight

Should something like this be oversighted? I've reverted it, but it's pretty nasty stuff. Cheers, XXX antiuser eh? 23:52, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Not nice is it. Do you think it's a hoax? There's not a mention in the Daily Mail when I searched it here, also the next one at this diff quotes The Sun, again nothing there here. You could ask for Oversight if you like OR I can selectively delete them. They are not lost on a selective delete - they are moved to a new page and deleted, an admin could find them if they wanted. Let me know if you want me to do that (I've just had a play in one of my Sandboxes and it worked OK.)  Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:01, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I checked Google and Google News and didn't find anything so it's quite obviously a hoax. I've emailed User:Alison about it, since she's got Oversight permissions, let's see what she says. Cheers, XXX antiuser eh? 20:08, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
OK, I'll do nothing for now. Come back to me if you need the selective deletion.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:09, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Will do, thanks for the help. Hope your eye gets better quickly! XXX antiuser eh? 20:41, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, Actual eyes are now fine, it's a remaining allergic rash (to fusidic acid) on the eyelids which is being a pain to shift - upset skin takes a while to recover.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:46, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Hey, Alison hasn't responded yet, so if you want can you go ahead and do a WP:REVDEL or WP:SELDEL on those revs. Thanks for offering to help. XXX antiuser eh? 22:57, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Wow, you confused me for a bit with WP:REVDEL - why doesn't it work on my PC - then I read "in the process of being enabled" (but obviously not yet!). Anyway, I've done Method B of WP:SELDEL - so there's nothing to see in the page histories - just some entries in the logs  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:22, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Awesome, thanks again! XXX antiuser eh? 23:25, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

AboveNet

Blocking of Ru_magister not needed now. This article (AboveNet) in Eastmain's hands. /Ru_magister/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.221.115.233 (talk) 12:10, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Run magister can apply for a unblock any times (s)he wishes, via the standard system.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:17, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

bot archiving prob

Hi there, You came to my talk page when I put up a help sign. Can you fix the problem for me? I don't understand anything you wrote on my talk page. Thanks. Malke2010 18:40, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thank you for fixing my archive bot. Your help is very much appreciated. Malke2010 20:15, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Thank You. Just hope the archive now starts working again.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 21:38, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Jim Sheridan vote record removed ?

Hi ron, you appear to have removed my edit without discussion ? The edit sheds light on an MP's position during a very important vote, is factual and is cited. Why has it been removed ?

rgds —Preceding unsigned comment added by SeekerAfterTruth (talk • contribs) 22:25, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

The edit I reverted was the addition of a single </ref> - see this, that is what was incorrect. Once we select revert it goes back to the previous editor. I have now restored the version before this edit.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:30, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
There are a couple of issues with the edits SeekerAfterTruth has been making – they include description which isn't in the source, and they seem to be giving undue weight in biographies to a specific vote in 2007 on no more basis than SeekerAfterTruth's assertion that it's very important. I've reverted, if SeekerAfterTruth wants to persist we can take it further. . . dave souza, talk 22:42, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Fine. I was just vandal fighting in huggle, not looking so deep as checking references.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:45, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, the work you're doing is greatly appreciated, dave souza, talk 22:55, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Bill Gates' house

don't block the tosh.o page thats ingorint c'mon he said it was ok —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.1.4.243 (talk) 22:27, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

??????????  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:33, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism

Information on the state of play of political parties from before the 2007 General election is largely out of date 3 years later. It isn't "Vandalism" to attempt to update and shorten articles by removing comment from prior to that date. For instance, references to Fianna Fail's former leader - Bertie Ahern - is just ancient history. Likewise comments about Sinn Fein growing in the Republic of Ireland are out of date.

Also, the article is inaccurate. It is headed "Politics in the Republic of Ireland" but has a table that includes a column for the number of elected members of the Northern Ireland assembly! Even then it isn't constitent, the number of Sinn Fein members of the Northern Ireland Assembly is listed, that of the Green Party is not.

So do you really think that users want an out-of-date Wiki entry? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.24.203.212 (talk) 00:04, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia's an encyclopaedia, not a news or blog site. Users will often use Wikipedia to find out about the history of a topic. Therefore all history is relevant. The vast majority of article grow in size as their history is updated. If there are errors or omissions then correct those - not forgetting to add an edit summary so all editors known why the data had been added.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:08, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Huggle

Hi. It seems that the talk page warnings that you are issuing with Huggle are not taking account of existing warnings. So, for example, if I have already issued a level 1 warning, huggle is just adding a new level 1 warning, and I am having to go back in and add an escalated warning, which is not ideal. Just to let you know. Thanks TigerShark (talk) 00:20, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Huggle only counts the "standard" (WP:WARN) & "huggle" warnings. You seem to be using some sort of unknown "test" warnings - it will not count those.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:27, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Does it show you a preview of the talk page, or does it just blindly add them? TigerShark (talk) 00:32, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
It's automatic, it counts them up to 4 and then on 5 reports to WP:AIV. Sadly, it can't block any more, I have to fire up Firefox and do that manually.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:34, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
OK, bit of a pain, but never mind. Thanks for clarifying. Cheers TigerShark (talk) 00:39, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Signpost: 22 February 2010

Stereotypes of White People

Hello, I have two messages which say I have vandalized the page above. I have never been to the page above, much less made any changes to it. While this is a work computer, it is not a shared IP, so there must be some mistake. Thanks, 65.88.88.164 (talk) 22:29, 24 February 2010 (UTC)David

If it's a Work computer, then it is a shared IP. Note THESE edits.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:31, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

February 18 blocking of User:71.100.31.227

I see that you are among many who have blocked User:71.100.31.227. You must be familiar with this person's work, if you blocked him/her for a month. ----DanTD (talk) 16:34, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

I can't remember the full circumstances of the blocking - sometimes I see it all happening in huggle, other times just from seeing a report at WP:AIV, and then checking the edits. It quite reasonable to think that this is a vandalism account - following the expiration a one week block they start their old ways with this. It's normal for block lengths to increase each time - especially so soon after one has expired.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:45, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Michael Tarver aka Tyrone Evans

I was friends with both Tyrone Sr. and Jr. in Kent, OH in the mid 1990's This is in fact true what I posted.

It may be true, but it cannot be put here without a reliable source  Ronhjones  (Talk) 21:51, 25 February 2010 (UTC)