User talk:Rhododendrites/2016a

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Anna Olson

Thanks for removing that notice for proposed deletion. I got a notice stating she was not notable which is false and it was up for deletion. I will do what I can to improve the page. Will you? Mr. C.C.^Hey yo!_{I didn't do it!} 04:41, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

@Fishhead2100: Hi. I was just going through the articles that had been proposed for deletion yesterday (User:Cyde/List of current proposed deletions). That she looks to have hosted several of her own cooking shows says to me the article should at least have the benefit of going through AfD. I still have some of the sources up from when I did a search yesterday. They're not slam dunks, but they may be helpful, so I'll link them here. That said, I don't actually know anything about her and food shows/baking isn't really my thing -- just saw an article that didn't merit deletion. :) It's worth noting that I saw at least one of her shows was also proposed for deletion, so if you know more and know the shows to be independently notable, you might want to take a look. Sources: Vancouver Observer interview, Gastronomia & Cia, Georgia Straight, chch, Playback, Hello Magazine, on CTV, Canada.com. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 17:18, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for the late response. I appreciate the links. We can put the in the article where necessary. Also, we can format the current references to make them look better. Mr. C.C.^Hey yo!_{I didn't do it!} 18:51, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Happy New Year Rhododendrites!

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Thank you once again for all your wonderfully helpful assistance, and for everything else that you do in support of our encyclopedia. I wish you a great New Year in 2016!
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@Pdebee: Thanks very much. Happy New Year to you! — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 00:21, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

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I would also like to wish you a happy new year and hope you had your tongue embedded in your cheek when you talked about obnoxious - I certainly did. From the little I I have seen, you do good work here. Ottawahitech (talk) 20:20, 31 December 2015 (UTC)please ping me

@Ottawahitech: Well, part of that comment was tongue-in-cheek (or just cheeky), but it was the part you seemed to respond to as though it were a serious part of my argument. So that's a shame :) The "obnoxious" comment was not, as I did not (and still have trouble) reading "RIGHT ON" as anything but sarcasm (which I suppose you're entitled to, under the circumstances). But regardless of whether my comment was in response to something sarcastic or good-natured, it certainly doesn't help or add anything, so I went ahead and struck it.

I do appreciate the message, by the way. Thanks. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 00:21, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Rhododendrites!

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Definition lists and semicolons

Hi there. With regard to this edit, you might want to read H:DL and MOS:ACCESS, which address the use of semicolons. Basically, when you use a semicolon to bold text without directly following it up with a colon, it generates invalid HTML. This can cause problems for screen readers for the blind, and some web browsers will improperly render the page. If you simply must remove a section header, I suppose you could replace it with boldface text using apostrophes, which is less wrong – at least it will render properly. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 11:09, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

@NinjaRobotPirate: Ah! Did not know that. Changed it. Thanks. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 14:07, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

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Boysetsfire‎

I see you've deprodded this article after finding reliable sources. I must not familiar with what sources are considered reliable in the world of punk music, could you improve the article with those references?--RadioFan (talk) 22:00, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

@RadioFan: same as any other music, I imagine. It's not one of the genres I spend much time with. The point is, it was easy to find lots of sources through a quick search so shouldn't be deleted. If you are so inclined: feature on MetalHammer, PunkNews interview, several reviews on PunkNews, Allmusic bio, allmusic review, allmusic review, allmusic review, allmusic review, Altpress review, more from alpress under the boysetsfire tag, Drowned In Sound review, Delaware online, Metalinjection review, Billboard bit, New Straits Times review...and this is far from exhaustive. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 22:37, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

The point is, those references are better on the article than your talk page.--RadioFan (talk) 00:02, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

@RadioFan: But that's not actually the point. You PRODded, saying "No indication of how this might meet notability guidelines", without, it seems, bothering to look for sources yourself (notability being based on the existence of sources and not sources cited, after all). I saw the band name in the list of proposed deletions, thought I recognized the name, and took all of about 2 minutes to search for sources sufficient to see the band is, in fact, notable. Hence deprod. I am not obliged to now rewrite the article, which seems to be your insinuation (and why my tone is a little bit defensive). The article is kind of a stinker, but I don't have time to rework every article I see nominated/proposed for deletion on bogus grounds. If I'm misinterpreting your messages, of course, I apologize. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 01:24, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

All that said, I did copy the sources to the talk page: Talk:Boysetsfire. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 01:26, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Skilful

No worries; we get that kind of edit a lot with "instalment". I wasn't 100% sure myself, but I did check a dictionary before the revert. Magidin (talk) 22:55, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Cambodian Rocks

I appreciate that this may sound a little trivial, but I have some worries about the non-free content in this article; I've already removed one clearly unwarranted non-free image, but I'm also worried about the following four things:

1. Four separate samples seems somewhat excessive, especially for such a short article.
2. Per WP:SAMPLE, music samples should be no more than 64kbps (which they basically look to be) but they should be no more than 30 secs/10% of the song length, whichever is shorter.
3. Album covers should typically be no more than 300 by 300 px.
4. The two "free" images have some pretty shakey claims. One is claimed to belong to the uploader, which seems unlikely, while the other is claimed to be of unknown provenance, yet questionable claims are made about its publication in the US.

Sorry to be a pain... Crisco 1492 is fairly knowledgeable about this kind of thing; though his focus has been on Indonesia, I believe he has written on Cambodian topics, and may be able to offer some aid when it comes to locating/identifying free content. Josh Milburn (talk) 12:33, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

• Can't say I know much about sources for Cambodian works; the only stuff I've done on Cambodia was in collaboration with Khazar2 (who focused exclusively on human rights topics). I agree that we need less non-free media in that article. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:39, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

@J Milburn and Crisco 1492: Thanks for sharing your concerns.

For the images, admittedly I Just looked at what existed in other articles and apparently did not look at the licensing as hard as I should have. So yes File:Rossereysothea.jpg clearly shouldn't have been included. For the album cover, I went ahead and uploaded a smaller version. I'm afraid I don't know anything about the other two. I did look for other images to upload and even emailed a couple researchers to see if they knew of images with compatible licenses or which they would release... no luck so far. That would be Commons rather than fair use, though.

For the samples, yes it looks like I messed up the first one. Must have looked at the wrong track length or something. :/ Regardless, I replaced it with a shorter one. The reason for including the samples is due to so much of the artists' work having being lost, so for some of the tracks this is the one of the only available recordings. The songs are also for four different artists on four quite different tracks. To me, for an album of music with this sort of history, samples from 4 out of 22 tracks doesn't seem excessive to me -- but then, we've established I have some things to learn about non-free media :) — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 13:47, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

• Not just the duration, but the number. Four out of twenty-two tracks is quite a bit too much, especially when several of these tracks are given no critical discussion in the article (i.e. falls afoul of our policies) — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:02, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

• @Crisco 1492: hmm. I was looking at "where only by including such non-free content, can the reader identify an object, style, or behavior, that is a subject of discussion in the article." I.e. the article talks about different styles so I tried to pick four tracks to give a range of styles. But perhaps the intended meaning of that line is based on media use in an article about style. Regarding the number, if specific discussion of each song were in the article, would there still be an issue? Is there a rule of thumb for number of samples? Sorry if I'm being daft. To err on the side of caution for now, I removed the three that are not explicitly mentioned in the article and removed the nonfree tag. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 14:14, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

• Here's a point of comparison: the FA Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band also uses four sound clips. That one section discussing the songs is three times longer than the entire Cambodian Rocks article. "Contextual significance" can be a very difficult bar to cross, and the chance of a clip's use being questioned increases considerably when more than one clip is used. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:20, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

• Fair enough. One it is for now :) I'll see about building out that section to see if we can justify one or two more via specific discussion of the songs, but I've pretty well gone through all the sources I can find... Unfortunately the tracks that get specific mention tend to be those that bear a direct likeness to specific Western songs (Gloria (song), Black Magic Woman, Hip-Hug-Her, etc.). I guess it's to be expected that an American release of untitled tracks from the other side of the world would be treated, at least superficially, like a novelty. :/ (just opining on a tangent now) — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 14:35, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

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@Guy Macon: Thanks. I didn't see this come up again. Speaking of which...again?? — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 23:10, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

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Reference at Rhinogradentia

Hi Rhododendrites, I noticed that in your last edit at Rhinogradentia, you added a list-defined reference named "vbio", but didn't associate it with any inline citations in the text, so it's showing up as an error on the page. Was this meant to be associated with specific content on the page, or is it perhaps meant to be a general reference? —Laoris (talk) 17:45, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

@Laoris: Ah. Thanks. I was pulled away from working on it the other day and forgot to go back. Commented out for now. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 18:05, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Merge Where?

In regards to the article described as "social justice warrior" I believe that it would go just fine under the criticism section of the "social justice" article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snowflakemango (talk • contribs) 22:31, 23 January 2016‎

Thanks for clarifying, but I'm confused. Did you post the comment by anonymous user 108.2.58.56 at the deletion discussion? I presume you're responding to my question posed to that person? — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 22:35, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

The social justice warrior article

Hello, you might remember me from talk page of Moral panic and Social Justice and from the ANI where I was put up for hounding. I've now noticed they've placed the term social justice warrior in its own article since it was creating so much chism in social justice.

I looked at the Social Justice Warrior article and it seems like a battleground, full of bully tactics. I don't want to partake and be hounded, but I noticed someone removed four links from Further Reading which weren't duplicates even though that was the edit reason. I don't know any of the other people and I assume they're not monitoring your busy talk page, so could I ask for you, the brazen golem of impartiality, to look into the four links, please? --Mr. Magoo and McBarker (talk) 16:03, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Oh and at some point someone removed this book reference which probably belongs in Further Reading more as it's a book: [1] --Mr. Magoo and McBarker (talk) 16:17, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

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1. "Amazon.com: How to make a Social Justice Warrior: On identitarianism, intersectionality, mobbing, racefail, and failfans 2005-2014 eBook: Will Shetterly: Kindle Store".

@Mr. Magoo and McBarker: Could you link to the removals you're talking about? There's been a lot of activity there. On the talk page there are discussions of a couple sources -- are those what you mean? If you're talking about Urban Dictionary, I'm going to completely endorse its removal per WP:ELNO, but other than that I'm not sure. There are some sources that have been repeatedly added, removed, moved, etc. based on the context of their use and disputes over reliability, and I'm not inclined to jump in without the benefit of having followed those discussions. Honestly, I don't relish the opportunity to jump in there at all. The reality of it is I tend to get frustrated by Gamergate-related articles because (even compared to some of the other contentious areas I work in) I feel like both sides of GG disputes operate with a battleground mentality in a total WP:AGF vacuum, which makes it really hard to do anything at all without spending a ton of time to make a little bit of progress.

Regarding the book (I typed the above before I noticed your second message), while it's obviously relevant, it looks like it's self-published. My own take on a book like this is that it may be worth including in further reading if you know it to be high quality, but unless there's a compelling reason to do so and/or unless it has received some legitimacy via, say, a review in the New York Review of Books or something, it probably shouldn't be included in an article about a contentious subject and, realistically, if someone challenges it it should probably be removed from any article. A self-published book might as well be a very long blog until it receives some outside validation. I may have missed something, but that's what I'm seeing based on my 2 minutes of research :) — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:44, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

No, I don't know about the Urban one: at the bottom here. I also don't really understand this "Gamergate". --Mr. Magoo and McBarker (talk) 16:54, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

@Mr. Magoo and McBarker: Ah. Well, there's a ton of gray area here but I'll give you the strict policy rationale. Further reading should still conform to WP:RS and should be general resources to learn more about a subject. The NY Post and Crimson articles are explicitly in the papers' respective "opinion" sections. Opinion pieces are typically only considered reliable for the opinions of their authors. So if an author's opinion is significant, it might be appropriate to add to the article, but it's unlikely to be included as further reading or an external link because it's not a general source of information about the subject -- just about the author's opinions about the subject. The Daily Caller and National Review are treated similarly, as publications for which there is a well-documented political bias. It doesn't mean they can never be used, but especially in contentious political issues (or social issues that have a political bent), they're again just typically reliable for the authors' opinions. The gray area for using them comes down to whether the author's opinions should be included in the article per WP:WEIGHT and a more detailed analysis of the extent to which each is reliable. In short, by the strictest policy definition, they are right to be removed unless compelling reasons for their inclusion can be presented. For more information about Gamergate, see Gamergate controversy, but abandon hope all ye who enter there. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 17:36, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

By the way, I appreciate your "brazen golem of impartiality", whether or not it was intended as a compliment :) — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 17:38, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

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Paul Smith

Hope you don't mind that I overwrote your link. I'd see the same story, but it's a pet peeve of mine when sites recycle material from original sources for their own clicks; I make an effort to find the original creator of the content and give them the clicks (you'll notice that I failed on my first attempt, then finally tracked down the Youtube account of the news anchor). Cheers, OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 14:49, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

@Ohnoitsjamie: Not at all. Thanks for doing so. I just happened across the story and quickly added it without making sure it originated with that site (I should've known better, since I'd never seen "Hefty" before). — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 14:51, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

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Matthew Christopher

Hi

Thanks for your input.

I am not Matthew Christopher. I am his social media director. I am in the process of adding sources as I clearly mentioned in my edits.

Matthew Christopher is a notable designer in the same arena as Monique Lhuillier https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monique_Lhuillier and I followed her format.

Please advise on the conflict of interest. I understand adding sources.

Thanks muchMatthewchristopher (talk) 06:50, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

@Matthewchristopher: I did see that in this edit you said you were "setting up sources", which I took to mean the social media links you added and the list of where his gowns were featured, which don't sound like they would verify other information beyond the existence of his work in those publications. If I caught you while you were in the middle of adding something else, I apologize. In general, though, there's a higher bar for citing sources when it comes to biographies of living persons and the edits looked promotional. Not egregiously so, to be sure, but they add accomplishments and additional details without including sources and add an array of social media links. And, of course, your username is kind of a red flag. I do recognize there's some irony in reverting your changes partially on the basis of sourcing when the article is littered with "citation needed" sorts of tags, though.

If you would like to learn more about Wikipedia's policies regarding paid editing and conflict of interest: WP:PAIDEDIT is about the part of the terms of use that requires disclosure of paid contributions, WP:COI is the full conflict of interest policy (helpful, but lengthy), and WP:PROMO is about promotion on Wikipedia (part of the "What Wikipedia is not" policy). The most useful for you, however, would be the Plain and simple conflict of interest guide and how to make a simple COI request.

That last link is the most practical for what we're talking about. The idea is that you use the article talk page to propose changes to the article and use a little template, {{Edit request}} which draws the attention of users who might not otherwise see it. Someone else will come in and implement the change, revise the edits and implement, or provide feedback as to any problems that exist in the proposed text. It's an extra step, but does more to ensure what you want to change does change, and changes in a way agreeable with Wikipedia policies.

By the way, I know that Matthew Christopher is a notable designer. When the article was nominated for deletion last year, I worked to keep it because my own research showed that he is notable. That said, I don't have any particular interest in bridal fashion, and while I found some sources for the purpose of keeping the article I never did use them to improve it. If you click that "nominated for deletion" link, you'll find some links there that you could draw from (although, as you're handling his social media, I imagine you have all of those and more). — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:21, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Matthew Christopher Changes

Hi Rhododendrites

I made many updates to this page following your recommendations and advice. Thanks. There is a tag on the wiki page -A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject

This might be based on the picture I uploaded. The picture is Matthew's official head shot. His husband, David J. Marchi is an artist/photographer and takes many of Matthew's business pictures. Here is an example of it's use. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=matthew+christopher+fashion+designerMatthewchristopher (talk) 06:40, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

@Matthewchristopher: I don't think it's because of the image; I think it's strictly because of your username. I don't have any major problems with the content, though, and it looks like Grayfell (an experienced editor) looked it over and made some tweaks, so while I still think it's better to use the talk page (and nobody could justify adding that COI tag in that case) but what you've added looks fine based on a quick look (I haven't actually followed any of the citations). — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:18, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

How do we remove the conflict comment on Matthew Christopher's page

Hi Rhododendrites...

Getting close I think

Would you please help me remove the conflict comment on Matthew Christopher's page?

Appreciate your help here.

Vermontmountainboy (talk) 01:33, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi, I am having trouble finding out where to respond to Greyfell and his COI comment and the removal of the picture.

I was specifically asked by Wiki to change my username Matthew Christopher. I did this today and it was approved yet I am still getting comments like Greyfell is leaving.

Also, the picture I posted on behalf of Matthew Christopher Inc. is wholly owned by Matthew Christopher Inc. What do I need to provide as proof of this?

Thanks much

(Vermontmountainboy (talk) 03:35, 1 February 2016 (UTC))

@Vermontmountainboy: It looks like the tag is gone from the article, but there's not a way to remove it from the talk page because, well, you have a COI and you edited the article. I'd recommend leaving a message for Grayfell to follow up on that (and regarding the image). For the latter, you could also check out commons:Help:Contents. Media on Wikipedia fall into three categories: copyrighted content improperly used (should be removed/deleted), copyrighted material used with a fair use rationale, or content with a compatible open license. For the latter, uploads should be done at Wikimedia Commons. There are processes you'll have to go through to show that you're the copyright holder or that you have the copyright holder's permission to release with an open license. I'm not really the best person to help with that, but the Commons page on "email templates" explains how to do this via email. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 05:27, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, honestly, you are one of the best editors I have worked on at wiki and I appreciate the guidance. I will get proper documentation for picture.

The only other thing I want to discuss is the recent edits. I literally looked at the format of one of Matthew's competitors, Monique Lhuillier and her wiki page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monique_Lhuillier

Since her page has been up for quite a long time, I used it a guide and structured the language almost word for word.

Not that I want to call anyone out but all Matthew's content, subjects, statements about his flagship store are no different than how she was written up.

Thanks for looking into this.

(Vermontmountainboy (talk) 16:02, 1 February 2016 (UTC))

Saturday February 6 in NYC: Black Life Matters Editathon

Saturday February 6 in NYC: Black Life Matters Editathon

You are invited to join us and the AfroCROWD initiative at New York Public Library's Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture for our upcoming editathon, a part of the Black WikiHistory Month campaign. Saturday February 6 Black Life Matters Editathon (RSVP). 12:00pm - 5:00 pm at NYPL Schomburg Center, 515 Malcolm X Boulevard (Lenox Avenue), by W 135th St The Wikipedia training and editathon will take place in the Aaron Douglas Reading Room of the Jean Blackwell Hutson Research and Reference Division, with a reception following in the Langston Hughes lobby on the first floor of the building at 5:00pm. We hope to see you there!--Pharos (talk) 19:16, 1 February 2016 (UTC) (Bonus upcoming event: WikiWednesday Salon @ Babycastles - Wednesday, February 17)

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Destruction of ivory has been nominated for Did You Know

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	For your tireless work on a range of issues, but more importantly Destruction of ivory, a long overdue article (took a look at Ivory and Ivory trade, and was very much discouraged by the lack of covering this strategy). Keep up the amazing work, Sadads (talk) 15:00, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

@Sadads: Thanks! :) I was surprised by the lack of coverage on Wikipedia, too -- especially given the extensive press attention every one of the events attracts. I hope to go back to Ivory trade at some point to better include it there. BTW have you ever taken a look at the US Fish and Wildlife Service Flickr stream. I was peripherally aware of it before but never really took a look. I grabbed some of their images of the NY ivory crush and wound up grabbing about a hundred others :) Now to categorize.... — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 15:28, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Haha, thats great! We always need to be scraping amazing content from PD-US-GOV sources. I worked for the Army Center of Military History for a summer and did a lot of scraping both text and images. Sadads (talk) 15:45, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Chess.com revert

Hi, why did you place back an unrelated external link to the article? IQ125 (talk) 18:51, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

@IQ125: Why do you say it's unrelated? There's a section heading in the article about Chesskid.com which explains that it's part of chess.com. Chesskid.com also redirects to chess.com. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 19:09, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

I agree with you, thanks for the clarification. IQ125 (talk) 13:36, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

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One database for Wikipedia requests

Development of the extension for setting up WikiProjects, as described in the last issue of this newsletter, is currently underway. No terribly exciting news on this front.

In the meantime, we are working on a prototype for a new service we hope to announce soon. The problem: there are requests scattered all across Wikipedia, including requests for new articles and requests for improvements to existing articles. We Wikipedians are very good at coming up with lists of things to do. But once we write these lists, where do they end up? How can we make them useful for all editors—even those who do not browse the missing articles lists, or the particular WikiProjects that have lists?

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I was just trying to correct an inaccuracy of the article. If you are not convinced, here it is from the horse's mouth: https://twitter.com/Salon . Here is but one example: "White men must be stopped: The very future of mankind depends on it" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.26.205.212 (talk) 17:10, 28 February 2016 (UTC)