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User talk:Polaron/Archive1Welcome to Wikipedia , I hope you will like it here and decide to stay. You may want to take a look at the welcome page, tutorial, and stylebook, avoiding common mistakes and Wikipedia is not pages. Here are some links I've found useful:
Also: To sign comments on talk pages, simply type four tildes, like this: ~~~~. This will automatically add your username and the time after your comments. Signing with three tildes ~~~ will just sign your username. I hope to see you around Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to contact me on my talk page!Johann Wolfgang [ T ...C ] 00:53, 19 October 2005 (UTC) US 1Thanks for the town-by-town and mileage for Connecticut. I modified your listing format to keep it uniform with Rhode Island and New Hampshire. I will eventually do the same for other states as well. Cheers! --K1vsr (talk) 19:55, 26 October 2005 (UTC) Thirty most populous cities in the worldThank you for providing footnotes to the Thirty most populous cities in the world article on the talk page. I decided to put them in the article. I'd appreciate it if you could add more footnotes. Again: thank you. Ben T/C 17:09, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Chukyo Metropolitan AreaHi Polaron, Thanks for starting the article Chukyo Metropolitan Area. Would you like to call your work to the attention of a larger community? If so, please feel free to add your new Japan-related article titles to the top of the list at Template:Newest Japan-related articles. Again, thanks. Fg2 21:09, 10 January 2006 (UTC) Area of MumbaiPlease look at the article carefully....it is about Greater Mumbai (which includes Mumbai City and Salsette and Trombay but not the Mumbai Metro Area), and not just the city.Pizzadeliveryboy 00:05, 10 February 2006 (UTC) FYIJust to let you know for further reference, there is a town called West Granby, CT. I know, I live in Granby. It is probably actually better that you changed the city names though. Thanks.
Page movingCould you please stop moving the CT hwy pages until we have WP:NC/NH resolved? Thanks. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 04:17, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for moving these to their proper names. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 18:59, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
New York metropolitan areaWhy did you add the Allentown--Bethlehem, PA-NJ Urbanized Area back to the New York metropolitan area page? I was the one that put it there in the first place (thinking that all of northern NJ is in the New York CSA). But then I realized that Warren county is not in the CSA. As I was mistaken, I removed it. But then you put it back. 16:11, 21 March 2006 (UTC)TC
LengthsI'm not sure - personally I'd trust a document like I have, which is used to find the mileages that are sometimes posted on town line signs and the like, over GIS data. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 05:54, 30 March 2006 (UTC) I forgot to mention that I probably would have been more hesitant to change the values had you cited sources. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 00:30, 31 March 2006 (UTC) Re: CT Highway shieldsPolaron, it took me a minute to realize what you are talking about, but I believe you're talking about the road signs (ex: Image:Connecticut_Highway_20.png). I do not have any already made, but I have the stuff set up so that I can make them. I'd gladly do it! For now, I'll just do the ones for which you've made stubs, but in the future, if you ever need other ones, just give me a buzz. → J@red 18:56, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Just a noteIf a shield shows up blank, go to its description, click the link to commons, and append "?action=purge" to the end (for instance http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Vermont_12.svg?action=purge ). Then do the same to the article ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Route_12_%28New_England%29?action=purge ) and if necessary hard refresh until the shield shows up. --SPUI (talk - RFC) 01:35, 6 April 2006 (UTC) You may be interested in the discussion on Talk:Route 9 (New England). --SPUI (talk - RFC) 04:17, 6 April 2006 (UTC) ===>Intro The SADR, ROC, and State of Palestine aren't recognized by the UN, and the Vatican isn't a member, so I figured I would write that in the introduction. -Justin (koavf), talk 00:23, 17 April 2006 (UTC) Please dont redirect page Lahore District and Karachi District to Lahore and Karachi. They are different. Lahore and Karachi pages deal with cities not districts. --Spasage 05:23, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Sorry I reverted your edits of Puerto Rico regarding pop. size and area but the UN info is outdated and wrong. Within the UN site [2] there are updated information regarding the island. If you have any concerns please write. Take care. Joelito 03:00, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Welcome to VandalProof!Hi Polaron/Archive1, thank you for your interest in VandalProof and Congratulations! You are now one of our authorized users, so if you haven't already simply download VandalProof from our main page, install and you're ready to go! If you have any problems please feel free to contact me or post a message on VandalProof's talk page. Once again congrats and welcome to our team! - Glen TC (Stollery) 00:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC) County Routes in New York StateI noticed you edited my pages on county routes in New York State. (Or rather, Dutchess County because that's all I created yet.) I was wondering if you would be interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject New York County Routes. Your help would be appreciated. [empirestateroads.com empire state roads] is a very helpful source, and, except for the images is "common knowledge" and does not need to be cited. Countries by areaAfter switching over the country by area values to UN figures, I was worried about my change looking like a one man show. I really didn't know if people supported the change (I asked for feedback, but got little to none before I made the change). I probably wouldn't have fought any revisions with much enthusiasm if you hadn't come in. Thank you for watching over the list, and the UN numbers, and keeping me from worrying that I was forcing my lone opinion on people. I really wasn't sure if there was much support for my switch-over, but I see now that others shared my sensibilities on the issue. Thanks again. Malnova 05:34, 13 May 2006 (UTC) Dallas Urban PopulationI noticed you added an "urban population" number to the Dallas, Texas article infobox. The article in its entirity is striving to become a Featured Article by, among many other things, having sources provided for almost every fact stated. If you have information on where you retrieved the number, or if the source is a Wikipedia article and it has sourcing information, please either let me know the details or add a <ref>Reference</ref> yourself in the article. Thanks so much!! drumguy8800 - speak 01:36, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Newark, New JerseyThank you for helping Newark, New Jersey; but please provide a source for you recent help. If I can be of assistance in any way, please don't hesitate to ask. Thank you, again. WAS 4.250 04:56, 19 May 2006 (UTC) Thanks for the sources!!!!! WAS 4.250 05:43, 19 May 2006 (UTC) Would you reconsider your vote to delete the Mexican crime article?Someone else created the Mexican crime article and, admittedly, the original text was short and appeared to be a slam against Mexico because it seemed to say "Stay away from Mexico, it's crime-ridden." However, when my attention was drawn to the article, I saw the potential for a valuable article and so I expanded the text based on Google research and tried to take out the OR and POV text. User:Aguerriero believes this is an important article and has pledged to work on it to further remove OR and POV text. Would you reconsider your "delete" vote in the context of the above points? Article deletion page is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mexican crime. Thanx. --Richard 16:27, 19 May 2006 (UTC) VandalProof 1.2 Now Available After a lenghty, but much-needed Wikibreak, I'm happy to announce that version 1.2 of VandalProof is now available for download! Beyond fixing some of the most obnoxious bugs, like the persistent crash on start-up that many have experienced, version 1.2 also offers a wide variety of new features, including a stub-sorter, a global user whitelist and blacklist, navigational controls, and greater customization. You can find a full list of the new features here. While I believe this release to be a significant improvement over the last, it's nonetheless nowhere near the end of the line for VandalProof. Thanks to Rob Church, I now have an account on test.wikipedia.org with SysOp rights and have already been hard at work incorporating administrative tools into VandalProof, which I plan to make available in the near future. An example of one such SysOp tool that I'm working on incorporating is my simple history merge tool, which simplifies the process of performing history merges from one article into another. Anyway, if you haven't already, I'd encourage you to download and install version 1.2 and take it out for a test-drive. As always, your suggestions for improvement are always appreciated, and I hope that you will find this new version useful. Happy editing! --AmiDaniel (talk) 02:58, 21 May 2006 (UTC) GDPThis GDP fellow is beginning to seriously annoy me. He does not provide any useful information but only changes data on various articles trying to inflate data about Romania and Moldova. Do you want to request RFC or even mediation against him? Originally I have him the benefit of the doubt, but now I am beginning to suspect that he is someone's sockpuppet. Vox Populi (TSO) 17:32, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Timor populationHi Polaron. I stick by my correction on the list of islands by population. According to the sources referenced, the population of Timor Island was 2,220,000 in 2000. This comprises of the five Indonesian provinces (Kupang, Kota Kupang, Timor Tengah Selatan, Timor Tengah Utara and Belu) plus the whole population of East Timor. Of course this includes some minor islands, for example Atauro off Dili but it shouldn't change the sum too much. Cheers, Mikko. GDP PPP and nominalhttp://www.infoeuropa.ro/ieweb/imgupload/RR_RO_2004_EN_00001.pdf (page 155) I found here the relation between nominal GDP and PPP GDP:
Now the for 2006 the nominal GDP is 93 Billion EURO as you seen above. That means 4227 EURO. You can compute very easily the GDP in Purchasing Power Standards: 11551 EURO. This data is very close to the data that I used. --GDP 09:22, 3 June 2006 (UTC) --GDP 09:22, 3 June 2006 (UTC) PPP GDP and Nominal GDPGDP expressed as nominal GDP is 92.3 billion euro (~120 billion USD) and the PPP GDP as expressed in PURCHASING POWER PARITY is 240 Billion Euro. --GDP 07:49, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
All is explained above, first we have the sources of GDP in nominal currency which is 93 Billion Euro (http://www.reporter.gr/fulltext_ENG.cfm?id=60601145531), then we can compute the PPP GDP by multiplying with the factor (aprox. ~3). In this way you have also the PPP GDP. GDP 15:22, 3 June 2006 (UTC) Your issuesPlease tell me exactly what facts do you contest? The fact that nominal GDP is 93 Billion euro? --GDP 15:49, 3 June 2006 (UTC) If you don't contest the data 93 Billion Euro, then you shouldn't contest the 254 Billion Euro PPP GDP. Just look please at several countries, there are big differences between nominal GDP and PPP GDP. For Romania the proportion is as high as 2,73 factor, even if before was even greater than 3. By the moment Romania will adopt Euro as curency it will probably have the proportion factor 1. --GDP 15:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Great BritainNo, I apologise, I don't! I do recall at the time that I read it from source but for some reason that I can't imagine I seem to have neglected to include it. Sorry --Robdurbar 08:09, 5 June 2006 (UTC) TambayIn case no one has invited you yet, baka gusto mong tumambay?--Jondel 03:33, 6 June 2006 (UTC) Iasi's populationPlease participate to the discussion at Romania's talk page instead of writing your fucked arguments! Arthur 10 June New info regarding the wages in Romania. See talk page of Romania. Regards, --Brasoveanul 12:30, 12 June 2006 (UTC) subpagesHey, I didn't want to interrupt your editing by moving the page out from under you, but I'd suggest you move it when you get a chance. Specifically, List of metropolitan areas by population/temp should be moved to Talk:List of metropolitan areas by population/temp. The relevant guideline is Wikipedia:Subpages#Disallowed_uses. I don't know why it's this way, but thought you should know about it.--Kchase02 T 00:09, 18 June 2006 (UTC) New York townsI'm aware of that, but the current situation has a major problem. If I'm talking about Andover, New York, what do I link to? --SPUI (T - C) 02:27, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
New proposal: Wikipedia:Political subdivisions of New York --SPUI (T - C) 01:45, 23 June 2006 (UTC) Major Highways NY CSAI certainly agree we can't include all highways in the CSA. My preference would be to include all interstates though. That said, I don't mind if we leave i91 out. However, there is a lot of other stuff on the site I would similarly leave out. For instance, I listed MacArthur and Westchester Airports. I figured that they had scheduled flights from major airlines, so they were big enough to include. But then someone added Teterboro, which does not have flights like this. So as not to be rude, I left it in, but left it in its own category. Then someone added Orange County Airport, which is not reasonable on its own, but given that Teterboro is there seems reasonable. The addition of Stewart by someone did indeed seem reasonable goven that it has scheduled flights from major airlines. I would leave in JFK, EWR, LGA, MacArthur, Westchester and Stewart and take out Teterboro and Orange. But to the extent that these stay in, 91 probably belongs in. But I'll let you make the call. NYSR ProposalEven though I know you're in favor of making the change to the new routebox and to the Major Intersections table, please vote on the finalized proposal at WT:NYSR. Thank you in advance. --TMF T - C 06:26, 1 July 2006 (UTC) U.S. Route JunctionsHeya. What's your method to figuring out what junctions get to be in the box? I'm looking for input on how to "qualify" a junction and was wondering what your thoughts are. Stratosphere 06:26, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
List of countries by population densityI saw that you are the editor who updated the List of countries by population density article - You do realize that only sovereign countries are supposed to be numbered, while the rest should be listed for comparison only? Many of the states and territories now listed as sovereign are in fact not sovereign countries (ie they are governed by another state or country), as for example Greenland (belongs to Denmark), Puerto Rico (US territory), Hong Kong (part of China), and so on. Those are not countries, and should not be listed as such. /M.O (u) (t) 19:45, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
ThanksThanks for your prompt response. I'll copy it onto my computer whenever I can access the data. Also, thanks a lot for your work on the article. Ufwuct 01:30, 10 July 2006 (UTC) Peer review for MyanmarHello, I have begun a peer review for Myanmar. Please express your opinions at Wikipedia:Peer review/Myanmar. Thank you. Hintha 21:42, 10 July 2006 (UTC) MerrittThanks for the input, I grew up in Weston and my folks are still there. I did double-check though before reverting it, my Hagstroms Ffld County Street Atlas shows Rt. 57 (Georgetown Rd.) ending at Rt. 107 in Redding, Rt. 107 travels West to intersect w/Rt. 7 in Wilton. Now that I triple-check it, Navteq data concurs: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=41.2165+-73.38662&ie=UTF8&ll=41.256936,-73.42766&spn=0.008162,0.022702&om=1 Nice to cross the t's and dot the i's as they say... Enjoy! -RJFerret 06:36, 11 July 2006 (UTC) countries of the WorldHi there: are you really saying that you think Denmark is nearly ten times as large as the United Kingdom?--Anthony.bradbury 23:41, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
100 biggest metro areasOk, sorry about the little edit dispute about the population of Delaware Valley. It's clear to me by reading your contributions that you are VERY experienced with editing geographical articles so this is obviously one of your areas of expertise. So, I reverted to your edits and I apologize for the mistake.-Andrewia 01:15, 14 July 2006 (UTC) Barnstar
 Thanks for finding the SVG shield image (I didn't know there was one), and for creating the redirects for my redlinks (I would have done it eventually, I swear)!!! -- NORTH talk 19:12, 17 July 2006 (UTC) If you're in the mood to join the mudslinging, can you take a look at the dispute here as a third party? Thanks. --SPUI (T - C) 17:14, 19 July 2006 (UTC) List of metropolitan areas by populationHi. I would really talk about the list of metropolitan areas by population. Obviously you are really into this. So please contact me. I have some question marks in my mind about this subject and also I would like express some of my ideas. Thank you. John. —Preceding unsigned comment added by John9834 (talk • contribs) Is there a list of metropolitan areas (with ranking) that cross national borderline of some sort? —RJN 05:05, 25 July 2006 (UTC) The Original "New Standard" ArticlesHello again. I did a bit of analysis tonight and I found a list of articles that are still using a table for the junction table instead of the NYSRInt templates. The reason that I had to look these up is that, with the changes made to the Template:NYSRInt coding tonight (a massive upgrade that should improve the efficiency of the template), a lot of the articles that are still using the table no longer display correctly (due to the placement of the NYSR templates inside of the table) and must be upgraded to use the NYSRInt template. I've already taken care of some of them, but here are the ones that are left:
If you could help me out and convert some of these, that'd be great. I'll do some myself as time permits, but a helping hand would be appreciated. Regards, TMF T - C 07:22, 25 July 2006 (UTC) Vermont Naming ConventionGreetings. I'm planning on creating a Vermont WikiProject to organize the Vermont route articles, which are currently under two different naming conventions. I've seen the massive amount of work you've done on VT articles, so I wanted your input on what the naming convention should be. Any ideas? --TMF T - C 02:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC) Iceland censusHey, can you tell me where you found these numbers from an 1980 census? I didn't know there had been a census carried out in Iceland since the adoption of the national registry in the 1950s. --Bjarki 18:10, 26 July 2006 (UTC) Metro DetroitI just looked it up and you were right. I've lived here for most of my life and have never heard it referred to as Detroit-Warren-Flint. Everything I've ever seen has only referenced Detroit, Flint, Ann Arbor and Windsor (which can't be included by the US govt).If you lived here, you'd know how ludicrous that designation is. Someone from Macomb County must have done heavy lobbying for that. mp2dtw 00:52, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
A Request for MediationA request for Mediation has been entered for the dispute over Warren and Ann Arbor by mp2tdw. I am a cabal, and I am here to give advice. Seeing as I am not a formal mediator, you are free to ignore me entirely. However, if you find what I say to be worthy advice, you can go for it. Now, down to business. From what I see, you are conflicting with another editor about how to address the Detroit metro area, whether to use Ann Arbor or Warren. The other editor claims that Ann Arbor has a far larger cultural and commercial life than Warren. If tyou do not agree with the other editor, you can compromise, and use both names, Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor-Flint. If that doesn't work, show the other editor your point of view. What does Warren have that Ann Arbor doesn't? I hope I have helped at least a little bit. I will be informing the other editor of my idea right now. Thanks for listening.
I have solved your dispute. "Metro Detroit-Ann Arbor-Flint (officially designated Detroit-Warren-Flint by the US Census Bureau)" will be the phrase used. It is similar to the idea you had, and mp2tdw agrees. If you have anything else to say, talk to me on my talk page! Viva La Vie Boheme sovereign countriesHi, Polaron. Did you ever get any additional comments about numbering officially non-sovereign entities like Greenland on the Countries by area list? You said something in your edit about putting this issue from the discussion page up on RFC. I don't know how to find this particular info source/list, could you tell me how to find it? However, unless the listing on RFC prompted a number of opinions in favor of my thinking, I have decided not to protest your changing of the numbering system. You have maintained the list in recent times with a very steady hand, and have allowed edits you saw as beneficial or at least harmless, and I respect that. Could you just ask on the discussion page about consensus next time before making such a big move (even though there is a large chance you will get no response from anyone else (besides me maybe)? Thanks. Malnova 21:44, 29 July 2006 (UTC) Opinion RequestedI'd like your opinion on this source from Dallas/Fort_Worth_Metroplex. (This article and this talk page are also involved.) Now, I know that as of 8-1-06, D/FW has more people than Philly Metro (by U.S. Census Bureau's definition), you know, and the author of the above external source seems to know it. However, the U.S. C.B. just came out with the estimates for July 1, 2005 on June 21, 2006. This source seems to be doing an estimate of an estimate based only on growth rates. Do you think this is a valid enough source? I would personally like to wait until the U.S. C.B. comes out with these numbers before we cite it. Also, if the external source did actually find this information from an official release of the U.S. C.B., it should be easy to find. If they did their own research, I would hesitate to cite them. Thanks. Ufwuct 15:51, 1 August 2006 (UTC) WikiProject Proposed for CT State HighwaysHey, we're talking over in WP:USRD about starting CT and RI highway WikiProjects, and I understand you might be interested. Tckma 17:43, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Your editPlease explain your edit on talk page first. You deleted great info. --Noisettes 16:27, 4 August 2006 (UTC) Nevada Route 28Regarding your recent change to NSR 28. I figured it would behoove us to specifiy that the Route 28 at this highway's end was CALIFORNIA State Route 28. Hence CSR 28. Do you have any other suggestions for abbreviation or should we just put the full name. Because IMO I'm not comfortable just leaving it as SR as it doesn't differnetiate that it's not a Nevada Route. JohnnyBGood t c VIVA! 18:08, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
StalkingAre you stalking me? Please stop for your own good. You reverted several times my edits even if I provided sources. --Noisettes 14:19, 5 August 2006 (UTC) Final state highway naming conventions debatePolaron, your participation is welcome in the Wikipedia:State route naming conventions poll. Please give your input as to the process by 23:59 UTC on August 8. Regards, Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 23:46, 5 August 2006 (UTC) Thanks for the California fixes. --SPUI (T - C) 03:31, 6 August 2006 (UTC) Your comment to List of Routes in VermontYour comment is very similar to design 1 and 1A: User:Seicer/sandbox1. Those are three designs that are under serious consideration, and design 1 to me is the best. For some reason I can't get the image clutter out of 1A out. Just to let you know :) Seicer (talk) (contribs) 15:47, 11 August 2006 (UTC) I saw your comment agreeing with me regarding the city, name unconventional "convention". On the positive side, reason and logic seem to have the upper hand with a current page move vote to change Chicago, Illinois back to Chicago. See Talk:Chicago, Illinois to throw in your support. Much appreciated. The only way to fix this is the way they broke it in the first place... one article at a time. --Serge 23:49, 14 August 2006 (UTC) Votes from January don't count in this round! Please vote in the current poll near the bottom of Talk:Chicago, Illinois. I agree with you about parenthesis being the better and more consistent approach for handling disambiguities. But, for now, if we can get the convention to be ignored on Chicago, that would be a 100% improvement over the current state where only one city does (New York City). --Serge 03:55, 15 August 2006 (UTC) List of Countries by AreaExplain ur reason for continuous reversals to the page given above. I am explaining mine - 1. Regarding PRC and USA at no. 3 & 4 PRC should kept over USA bcoz of Alphabetical order. Even if that is not considered, the HK and the territories administered by Taiwan make PRC 3rd. USA itself had recognized in 2004 Taiwan as an integral part of China. And also United Nations includes Republic of China's non-Taiwanese territories as PRC's. 2. Regarding the Ghulam Kashmir, most of the world doesn't recognize that title. It is considered universally as Pakistan Occupied Kashmir(for which there is a page). And removing the bracket part of includes territories not administered by India, well that is evident from the Pakistan Occupied Kashmir page as is given in this page. So there is no territory of India taken into account in this page that is not administered by India. 3. Regarding Argenitinian claim in Antarctica, a lot of countries claim that but nothing has been written about them bcoz Antarctica's claim is not recognized and neither administrative. So it is pointless to even mention that. Explain ur reasons for continous reversals to the original page. If u don't follow the three-reversals rule ur account maybe blocked. User page Discussion Edit this page + History Interstate 287Don't worry, I'm fully aware of the ugliness that 24.228.70.72 and Nextbarker bring to the major junction lists. However, I think it might be best to refrain from reverting their edits blindly. (Logical reversion is okay.) For example, I am in favor of keeping NJ 17 on the major junction list for Interstate 287. -- NORTH talk 19:42, 16 August 2006 (UTC) So, I guess US 1 and NJTP are paraleel each other at I-287 but why does the ramp from from 287 to Route 1 get some much more jammed then the NJTP entrances which is further east, and that's basically on Route 440 the NJTP entrance. But Route 24 is MUCH further south then Route 17. What is your source...... for Lithuania infobox adjustments? Renata 14:17, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Pause for a secondThanks.Ufwuct 23:26, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
I-86It seems from your edit summary that you reverted me because we don't generally edit articles just to fix redirects. This is correct, but a lot of those repairs I made did fix red links, and a lot of them removed duplicate links. I have a tremendous amount of work left to do there, and I would appreciate it if you would not revert my changes out of hand. Thanks. Kafziel 16:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC) Infobox_road template standardsI have added a discussion thread at WT:NJSCR to address standards for NJ road infoboxes and invite your participation. Over the past several weeks, we have made tremendous progress in cleaning up the articles for the State highways in New Jersey, especially with the expansion and addition of infoboxes to most of these articles. However, there seems to be a great deal of confusion as to what should be going in these infoboxes. I am creating this thread and inviting those users who have been active participants in editing these pages to come up with a mutually agreeable answer on the issues listed. I will take on the task of moderating this discussion, but I will add my 2 cents on these topics. We can add more questions if needed, but please, be civil. Alansohn 23:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC) Requested move: San Francisco, California -> San FranciscoPlease vote at Talk:San Francisco, California. Thanks. --Serge 18:16, 24 August 2006 (UTC) Please watch my user page for updates to a list of cities where polls are created. Also, feel free to use the info on that page to create your own polls (and update that list as appropriate) --Serge 04:55, 25 August 2006 (UTC) Moving "Ngwane IV of Swaziland"Hi Polaron. The move is not controversial at all, but since the destination is occupied by a redirect which has been edited more than once, this means that only an administrator can move the darn thing. I am no administrator, so I have no choice but to use the most cumbersome method. I've added a note to the page explaining the situation. Regards. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 20:31, 25 August 2006 (UTC) US 295 in WashingtonIf you want to go ahead and add it, feel free to go ahead and do so. Like you, I don't see any harm in either adding it or excluding it. Its exclusion was surely just an oversight on my part, as I did sort of a rush job when applying the templates. -- NORTH talk 04:11, 26 August 2006 (UTC) OklahomaYes, that would be the best practice IMO, but I don't know if OC is really a global city in the way Chicago, San Francisco, New York are. It just seemed like the argument about "New York City, New York" being redundant would warrant "Oklahoma City, Oklahoma" being moved as well. But yeah, I suppose I'd support a move, although I don't know where the tide is among editors. Jibbajabba 09:48, 27 August 2006 (UTC) Population of HungaryActually, the reference that had been in the article before your edit was pointing to a KSH estimate of 31 May 2006, and as such, it was better than the new one, I think. But I'm already tired of having to edit the number of Hungarians and Hungarian speakers 60% of the time, so I'll just let it lie. :( KissL 15:43, 27 August 2006 (UTC) Noodleshehehe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.161.155.139 (talk • contribs) 2 millionFor years, Houston has been waiting for it to hit the 2 million population, so it can be classified as a world class city (whatever its other names are as well). It was a big article in the 1993 edition of the Houston newspaper when I was visiting that stated that. Ericsaindon2 05:42, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Request for a favorPolaron, if you get a second, could you take a look at San Diego and the recent goings-on for the article. I've used up two of my reversions [for today] on anonymous editors. My rationale for the reversions is also on that talk page. Your time would be appreciated. Thanks. Ufwuct 17:04, 29 August 2006 (UTC) Move from Toyota, Aichi to Toyota CityPlease don't move articles into namespaces that aren't approved by the MoS. I can see that you don't agree with the current MoSJA but this issue has been discussed at length and there are numerous reasons (mainly because we don't suffix city names with City in common English) why moving the article to Toyota City is wrong. In future, it would help everyone a lot if you didn't deliberately disobey Wikipedia's style rules while a point is being disputed, and at least waited until some sort of concensus or level of understanding has been reached. freshofftheufoΓΛĿЌ 05:14, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
I do not need to argue this point with you: it has been decided at length. If you disagree with it, state your preference and your reasoning in a talk page before doing anything drastic. Your reasoning will be duefully considered and changes will be made after a decision is made. Please familiarize yourself with the original discussions so that nobody is forced to repeat themselves for the nth time. Thankyou. freshofftheufoΓΛĿЌ 05:20, 31 August 2006 (UTC) Japanese citiesYou linked me the wrong page...could you send me the proper link. Beyond that, that guideline is not very clearly followed - Osaka, Tokyo, Kyoto, Kobe, Nagasaki, and Hiroshima all fail to follow it. Nagoya is one of the largest cities, I think it should fall in with that bunch, rather than the smaller cities at the other format. john k 15:38, 31 August 2006 (UTC) Do you have an e-mail address registered? I want to e-mail you but it's not letting me. (this is regarding the highway poll). atanamir 00:26, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
HighwaysI don't know. You can complain but you'll just get blocked. --SPUI (T - C) 02:09, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Greater BostonI listed the cities to give a sense on the geographical location of the division. I chose those specific ones to give an example of some of the smaller cities and towns within the division. The list I chose the towns from came from the U.S. Department of Labor. Please respond back. MisterM87 01:30, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Japanese city naming debateThere's a new debate at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles) regarding the guidelines for naming cities of Japan. --Polaron | Talk 08:47, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV MSAI was wondering if you know what happened to Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV MSA. It appears to no longer exist. I would assume it still existed when you made this edit on July 11.Talk:Baltimore-Washington_Metropolitan_Area#Merger_proposal shows no consensus or closure on the issue and I see nothing for Articles for deletion/Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV MSA, so I'm wondering if you knew anything about it. Thanks. Ufwuct 16:08, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Exit list guideHello, Polaron. Since you have commented on the design of exit lists in the past, you may be interested in contributing to the newly-formed exit list guide. Please give your input regarding the page as soon as possible. Regards, TMF T - C 22:31, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
2006 estimates?Are you aware of any 2006 U.S. Census Bureau estimates? User:Bartowcounty11 made this change, which I reverted. Thanks. Ufwuct 20:56, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
East Timor info-box?Hi! On August 21 you changed the area of Est Timor. Would you please state your source that overrides the UNDP, UNOTIL and National Development Plan data, and contribute your new information to what I have written in the East Timor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:East_Timor#Area_according_to_which_source.3F - Land real area of East Timor seems to be a complex issue with many different interpretations. So please take part in that discussion. I am also maintaining some other webpages with East Timor information, so I would like have the best data possible . -Your information on land area appeared to have been published already in source dating back before independence in 2002, and since the land border has been negotiated. In January 2006 there still was 4% unconfirmer land border. Since your information appeared non-valid I changed it back to the old value. Simohell 15:44, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
Well in the history there is listed this change with your name on it (at 18:52 August 21 2006, with comment "infobox tweaks")
Connecticut Cities02:38, September 23, 2006 Polaron (Talk | contribs) (manchester is not technically a city) Please discuss before making a major edit to a template, secondly if you noticed in the discussion of the Connecticut template, there was an establishment to what is a city and what is not, Manchester is an important and visible part of Connecticut and thus should be included in the list. For example, Ansonia has a population of 18,000+ as of 2000 census and Manchester a population of 54,000+, how could the former still be still listed? It doesn't make sense.
Just wanted to say that I saw your comment, and you are right. Manchester is not a city; it is a town. The template is for chartered cities only. Beginning 23:47, 27 September 2006 (UTC) SLEXHi. As regards to SLEX, South Luzon Tollways Corporation or SLTC is now currently constructing the missing part of SLEX between Calamba and Santo Tomas. I made the terminus to Lipa because STAR Tollway is a part of SLEX, though as of today the interconnection is still underconstruction. Regards, Akosikupal Metro DetroitHi there! I reverted it back because those numbers are flat out incorrect regardless (Metro Detroit does NOT have over 5 million people according to any of those sources listed in the article!), and it is wrong to mislead readers and remove the clean up tag. Furthermore, the links to the listing of population rankings show Metro Detroit is the tenth largest metro area in the US, not the ninth. A complete revert is not appropriate IMO. Wangry 14:48, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
RfA thanks (even if you opposed)
CT SR MapsGreets. Are you in the process of creating maps for the Connecticut SRs? I see there are maps for 2 through 9 so I don't want to step on your toes if that's something you're currently working on. I was going to hit the USR WikiProject list alphabetically and start making some more maps, even though Calif is first, I'm not sure I want to touch that until they figure out what they're doing with the infobox over there. CT was next on the list...if you're doing the maps I'll gladly move on to FL ;) Cheers. Stratosphere (U T) 03:35, 28 October 2006 (UTC) Java collaborationhi Polaron/Archive1. Starting today, the Indonesia Collaboration is Java. Come along and help make this a page worthy of the world’s most magnificent island. There’s a suggested to-do list on the the Talk page to which you can add, or just pick a task. All sorts of tasks are required, Images, Citations, Research, Copy Edit, you name it – this important article needs your help!! regards --Merbabu 08:56, 31 October 2006 (UTC) New Cork voteThere is a new move request and survey regarding Cork. This time it is proposed to move Cork to Cork (city) in order to move Cork (disambiguation) to Cork. You are being informed since you voted in the last Cork survey. See Talk:Cork. --Serge 07:32, 1 November 2006 (UTC) 3di templatesI'm reverting your substing as you are supposed to wait until the discussion and DRV are complete before substing. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 23:55, 1 November 2006 (UTC) Why are you substituting ones with multiple links? Templates are useful in these cases to make less editing needed if a new spur is designated. --NE2 18:52, 4 November 2006 (UTC) Please stop. Every time a spur of I-81 is added, every article about one will need to be edited. --NE2 19:21, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Merritt/W.Cross SignHi. The photo you uploaded on your user page, where is it? I thought the Sikorski Bridge joined the previously distinct road. Was it really the West Rock tunnel? (not for a wikipedia article, just curious about the sign!) Jd2718 00:16, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Southeastern ConnecticutThanks for the links. I extended the AfD to the other Connecticut Regions (with one exception). I am not at all convinced that the existence of a planning agency or a chamber of commerce is sufficient to establish a name; certainly usage should trump all here. Perhaps I have reached too far then. But even if the name exists, does it merit an article? CT has a state article, 169 town articles, a bunch of Census named places articles, 8 county articles, and 8 region articles. I think someone got carried away. Anyhow, we can discuss further on the delete page. Jd2718 21:18, 11 November 2006 (UTC) Connecticut RegionsThank you for your work so far in opposing my AfD nominations. I think your references to the Regional Councils has been valuable, and for me, informative. However, the Councils have names and extents that are familiar and natural, that make sense, much more so, in my opinion, then the current group of articles. Would you consider working together to replace the current articles with articles based on the Regional Councils? Jd2718 16:27, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
I think it's clear that (with the exception of User:Vegaswikian) that we're all in agreement on the display of "state name first" links. I'm wondering whether you could clarify your opinion on links like [[New Jersey Route 17|Route 17]] though? In other words, is NE2's "What links here" logic enough to require links to be set up a certain way, in addition to how they display? -- NORTH talk 23:28, 19 November 2006 (UTC) Common knowledgePlease read the Wikipedia policy on verifiability and guideline on common knowledge. You are violating policy by re-inserting unsourced material without providing sources. Please revert yourself. -- Donald Albury 23:58, 25 November 2006 (UTC) Edits to GeorgiaIn connection with your edits to the table at Georgia, you seem to have better information than I had. Would you mind updating the footnotes in the table to point to the reference that you used (I noticed that one of my links doesn't work anyway). Thanks. --Tlmclain | Talk 02:37, 5 December 2006 (UTC) Golden HorseshoePlease see the Golden Horseshoe talk page for my rationale for the change. The Golden Horseshoe has included Niagara as part of the inner ring long before McGunity decided to re-write Ontario history. Snickerdo 02:32, 7 December 2006 (UTC) help requestYour help is requested as someone with current or recent interest in resolving the U.S. settlement naming convention discussion. I have created a "discussion template" modeled off of an RfC to attempt to structure the discussion, which is spinning wheels and spraying mud. I'd greatly appreciate any input you could provide (including "what are you smoking?"--or perhaps, "keep this in your back pocket"). Thanks in advance. --Ishu 16:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC) Re: United States metropolitan area (Los Angeles)Thanks for your message. My response: The OMB might have some executive reason for doing so. To most Los Angeles residents the LA metro area/ Greater Los Angeles Area (an article that you have worked on) is considered to definitely include Thousand Oaks (which isn't completely in Ventura County), the Inland Empire, and Oxnard, Simi Valley (which has LAPD jurisdiction), Oak Park, Point Mugu (which most consider part of Malibu), as they are so geographically close to East and West Los Angeles (the cities themselves). Heck, Thousand Oaks is a 15 minute drive with light traffic from my house in the middle of West LA (Thousand Oaks is closer than Marina del Ray, LAX, and about the same distance to downtown LA). Please look at the locations of the city on their county maps in the links provided. Obviously it is your call, you have been working on the article/project longer than me. If you are looking to determine the legal metropolitan area, I cannot argue that point, the presidents’ budget office (OMB) in Washington has said that Thousand Oaks is not part of the Los Angeles Metropolitan area (even though the LA metro buses serve that area). If you want a local view of the LA metro area, then the above area's are included. If you spoke to someone from these area's they would identify themselves as being from the LA metro area. The call is yours. BMan1113VR 21:09, 7 December 2006 (UTC) Re: New London disambiguation pageBased on what has happened in the recent past, having the redirect is used as justification to move the article. So my opinion is why make a change that opens a door for future problems? That not withstanding, there are too make other uses so that I'm not sure if there is a primary use. Vegaswikian 03:03, 11 December 2006 (UTC) More US 1/9 issuesYour input on Alansohn's comment on WT:NJSCR (whether you agree with me or not) would be much appreciated. -- NORTH talk 01:06, 15 December 2006 (UTC) NYSR-NYCR Newsletter - Issue 1
greater toronto areai entered in 7,100 km² for the area. This was the rough estimate in the greater toronto area page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Im.a.lumberjack (talk • contribs) 22:15, 9 January 2007 (UTC). Greater BostonPolaron, perhaps you could lend your opinion on this issue. I proposed using the MSA definition as opposed to the CSA one for consistency (or at least consistency we're striving for) with other Metro area articles. I proposed using the MSAs as opposed to the NECTAs to avoid overlap. Your opinion would be appreciated. Thanks.Ufwuct 23:19, 9 January 2007 (UTC) NYSR-NYCR Newsletter - Issue 2
From JGCarterHello Polaron, I am sorry about that "edit war". Some people consider the I-295 portion an "extension" of the Cross Bronx. I was a little confused as to where you were placing the eastern terminus. Are you talking about the I-295/I-695 junction? If so, can we say "Eastern Teminus
ThanksThanks for taking care of moving the junction list on U.S. Route 9 to the state detail page. I've had US 9 on my to-do list for quite some time, but there seems to always be something else that comes along that seems more pressing. -- NORTH talk 23:46, 21 January 2007 (UTC) Chilean editsHello, Polaron/Archive1, since you have made several edits to articles about Chile, you may be interested in looking at the Wikipedia:Chile-related regional notice board to pick up on other topics that need attention, or to express needs which you perceive pertaining to Chile. JAXHERE | Talk 01:33, 26 January 2007 (UTC) Inappropriate use of defaultsortPlease do not use defaultsort on by country categories such as Category:Military of Côte d'Ivoire. It will nearly always be inappropriate in such places because these categories need to be sorted by a different term in different parent categories. More generally, default sort should be used with caution; we have the pipe trick for a reason, and a huge amount of effort has been put into organising categories in a thoughtful way. Pinoakcourt 12:53, 30 January 2007 (UTC) Request MoveRequest to move article back. The request is based on the principal that the common denominator, per the new category UTC-5 demonstrates that cities generally have the state or province name. Take for example Ottawa which should redirect to Ottawa, Ontario and not vis-versa. This will help when categorizing cities. Thank you for following through with the request to move this page to appropriate location --((F3rn4nd0 ))(BLA BLA BLA) 16:46, 2 February 2007 (UTC) BostonHi! In the past, you've noted support on my talk page for naming U.S. cities consistently with other countries (only disambiguate when necessary). See Talk:Boston, Massachusetts. --Serge 22:53, 5 February 2007 (UTC) Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can
Land area or total areaIn List of metropolitan areas by population, is the area listed the total area or the land area? If land area is used, then it's an easy step to calculate the population density (and also easily and quickly and verifiable for readers). Either way, this should probably be noted. Also Template:Infobox Metropolitan Area does not specify what area is being listed for the metro areas. This can be very confusing. I would suggest having three areas listed, like Template:Infobox U.S. County does. That way, there should be no ambiguity. What do you think? Ufwuct 21:13, 6 February 2007 (UTC) Also, do you know where the areas come from for non-U.S. metro areas? It would be helpful to have some easy source to check and it is necessary to source this data. I had trouble finding it. Thanks. Ufwuct 21:14, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
U.S. Roads Newsletter Issue #1
Largest citiesWhy did you revert my changes? This list was incomplete, because excluded the city of Paris (France), with a population of 9.644.507 inhabitants (census of 1999). I have placed the correct information and you excluded it. Why? Fsolda 20:24, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
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Villages in ConnecticutI noticed that you changed Fair Haven and Westville from villages to neighborhoods in New Haven County, Connecticut. At the same time, I notice that village is still used for a fair number of places in this article (and the other Connecticut county articles). I am concerned:
That being said, neighborhood is appropriate where you used it, but would not make sense to extend universally. What designations could be used in place of village? Named place? No designation at all? Jd2718 14:42, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
I-89Please don't work on the exit list right now. Thanks. --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 18:44, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
=Woonsocket, Rhode IslandI my travels, I ended up taking a shot of Woosocket City Hall. I've uploaded the image, and attached it to the Woonsocket, Rhode Island infobox. Thought it would be a nice addition. I can't get it to show. Hope you know a little about infobox code. What am i missing??????? Thanks for the help (if you can) Pmeleski 13:17, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
USRD Newsletter - Issue 2
Rhode Island Route 11 at AfDAnother editor has listed an article that you have been involved in editing, Rhode Island Route 11, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rhode Island Route 11. Please look there to see why this is, if you are interested in whether it should be deleted. Thank you. --TeckWizBot 14:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC) --Eastmain 00:19, 27 February 2007 (UTC) Dutchess CR 33Yes, if you redirect the article, I would withdraw the nomination. -Nv8200p talk 03:14, 1 March 2007 (UTC) The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
ImportanceWe are doing importances on a national level, not a local level. Please consult the importance scale and the discussion regarding this on WT:USRD/A. Thanks. --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 03:16, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Do what you must. You probably know more about CT highways than I do anyway. In the grand scheme of things it is not important. Good luck in implementing your plans. --Polaron | Talk 04:47, 6 March 2007 (UTC) USRD Newsletter - Issue 3
Active user verificationHello, Polaron. Due to the high number of inactive users at WP:USRD, we are asking that you verify that you are still an active contributor of the project. To do so, please add an asterisk (*) after your name on Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Newsletter/List. Users without one by the next issue in 2 weeks will be removed off the list and off the respective road projects as well. If you have any questions, please contact me on my talk page. Thanks. TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 20:17, 10 March 2007 (UTC) CR 80, Rockland CountyHey, sorry I'm still kind of new to this wiki thing, and couldn't find your question til now. I know for a fact, as I've traveled here, that CR 80 end shields are north of Rockland Lake, at US 9W, before that wrap around that you are talking about. I've seen on maps too though that CR 80 wraps around the lake ending again at US 9W. My guess is it is a part of CR 80, but unsigned for the reason they don't want to draw attention to the road, as it is through a state park, and they want to keep travel to those who are there to enjoy the park. It also could be something they removed recently as well, as the only update maps i've seen are from more than a year ago. If you have current ones from 2006 or 2007 could you send me the links or pdfs? Thanks! Airtuna08 02:49, 17 March 2007 (UTC) I think I'm gonna email the person in charge of transportation in Rockland County, and find out what the deal is with this route and a few others. If you want to add a line to the CR 80 page about the extra extension thats cool. I'll edit it later according to if I hear back from the transportation dept. Thanks! Airtuna08 16:17, 20 March 2007 (UTC) The Transportation Commissioner of Rockland County got back to me today. CR 80 does not extend around Rockland Lake any longer. It was unofficially part of the route from 2000-2004. But in other news, I updated the main page for the Rockland County Routes, should be all set to go. Thanks. Airtuna08 05:46, 31 March 2007 (UTC) Please see that ;). —— Eagle101 Need help? 06:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC) Minor Routes in RIJust so we're on the same page here, I wanted to ask what exactly constitutes a minor junction on the Rhode Island route pages? That way I can save you from extra work to do. :) --Dbm11085 00:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC) Noted. I've also been trying to catalogue the RI routes by adding categories for the county/counties they pass through. Either way, thanks for clearing that up for me. --Dbm11085 01:17, 21 March 2007 (UTC) USRD Newsletter - Issue 4
I've added a new map. —Scott5114↗ 05:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC) Article requestThank you very much. --NE2 23:07, 2 April 2007 (UTC) USRD Newsletter - Issue 5
ThanksThanks for fixing the categories on List of numbered highways in Washington. It seems that whenever I do any copy and pasting on Wikipedia, I always forget to fix something. -- NORTH talk 18:09, 20 April 2007 (UTC) USRD Newsletter - Issue 6
Massachusetts Route 101I thought you should know that I undid your redirects on Massachusetts Route 101 and Route 101 (Massachusetts) because there IS actually a Route 101 in Ashburnham. These therefore should not redirect to US Route 44, in my opinion. I'm probably going to write an article on 101 tonight when I get home from work. Did US-44 used to be called MA-101? If so, I will link to it in the article. Thanks. -- Tckma 18:50, 27 April 2007 (UTC) Viti LevuThe area you put in for this Fiji Island doesn't match the area listed in its article. USRD Newsletter - Issue 7
San Diego-Tijuana Metropolitan Area.The San Diego-Tijuana Metropolitan Area is a government recognized Metropolitan Agglomeration]. I don't know how you can't seem to understand that. The almost 5 million people that live there isn't something i'm just making up. Also i don't think you understand the the guidelines of editing, because based on your other user discussion i've noticed i'm not the only person who has brought up issues with your edits. I say this because sub info is allowed for informational purposes. I am giving you a heads up so you don't continue to make discriminating edits and ,maybe in the future, not have conflicts with other users about your free-lanced edits. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cooljuno411 (talk • contribs) 23:48, 15 May 2007 (UTC).
SOURCING: San Diego County: 3,051,280 Tijuana (not the entire): 1,410,700 Rosarito (not the entire municipality): 56,887
Cooljuno411 00:16, 16 May 2007 (UTC) That's not the concern. I'm sure the population figures add up correctly. But who defines this as a *single* metropolitan area. There is the Zona Metropolitana de Tijuana and the San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos Metropolitan Statistical Area. These are two seperate metro areas (like Washington and Baltimore) and should be ranked separately. The fact that they are sometimes treated together should be noted of course. --Polaron | Talk 00:20, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Cooljuno411 00:32, 16 May 2007 (UTC) Then it should be easy to find an official source indicating that. --Polaron | Talk 00:35, 16 May 2007 (UTC) I already gave you a source but you did not want to accept it. And why would i put San Diego-Tijuana in the continues urban area only and not the metro article as well. Continues urbanization is a form of a metropolitan area. Cooljuno411 00:44, 16 May 2007 (UTC) Metropolitan areas are defined by commuter flows to a single core city, at least on the List of metropolitan areas by population. A conurbation can span several metro areas. I've noted San Diego in the notable exclusions section. --Polaron | Talk 00:47, 16 May 2007 (UTC) San Diego is the core center of the metro area. The San Diego-Tijuana border is the most traveled acrossed border in the world (if you want that source look at the article). The reason why people travel across that border, everyday, is mainly to come work in San Diego do to better pay. You should be able to cite commuter flow statistics then that show that 25% of Tijuana residents that are employed work in San Diego County. Otherwise, they are treated as separate metro areas by the Office of Management and Budget which defines metropolitan areas in the U.S. --Polaron | Talk 00:55, 16 May 2007 (UTC) The UN report also lists overseas regions separately, so your argument is not logical. Either you include all of overseas France, either you exclude all of it. As for other countries, their overseas territories are not part of the country. E.g., Puerto Rico is not fully part of the US, and Bermuda is not fully part of the UK. People from Bermuda cannot vote in UK Parliament elections, and people from Puerto Rico cannot vote in US presidential elections. Also, if you are British it's quite hard to settle in Bermuda, and if you are American, it's quite hard to settle in Puerto Rico, because the local governments there restrict immigration to their territories. It completely different with the French overseas regions and territories. They are fully part of France, they vote in all national and european elections, and people can settle anywhere within the French Republic. A Parisian can settle in French Polynesia completely freely as if he/she was moving to Provence or Burgundy. Godefroy 22:51, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Image:Merritt_shield_lowres.jpg listed for deletionAn image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Merritt_shield_lowres.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. hbdragon88 23:23, 16 May 2007 (UTC) Nominating U.S. Route 9 in New York for GASince you made a substantial contribution to the article, I feel I should let you know that I am nominating it for GA now. If it passes, by all means claim a share of the credit. Daniel Case 04:33, 17 May 2007 (UTC) It has already been passed! Within hours! Great! Congratulations! Daniel Case 12:36, 17 May 2007 (UTC) USRD Newsletter - Issue 8
Moving South Kent, Connecticut to South KentI'm just wondering why this was done. What happens when another South Kent posts a page? Phil 03:41, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation, Phil 12:23, 20 May 2007 (UTC) Hi. I was just wondering why you undid my revision to Delaware Valley. The article incorrectly states that the Philadelphia metropolitan area is the 5th-largest in the country. The city proper is the 5th-largest, but according to the source you cited, as a whole it is the 4th-largest metropolitan area. Please confirm and revert to my edit. Thanks. BroadSt Bully 13:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Request for your opinionHi Polaron, I notice you've made a few edits to the Ridgefield, Connecticut article, so you might be interested in contributing to a discussion at the Talk:List of people from Ridgefield, Connecticut page. I'm trying to get a consensus on what to do with a list of three people who many believed lived in Ridgefield, but didn't. If you have an interest, please look at the discussion and, whatever your opinion, I hope you'll comment. (I'm being careful here not to violate WP:Canvas, a guideline I support. If this message annoys you, I apologize and won't be writing more to you unless you request it.) Noroton 16:04, 26 May 2007 (UTC) Bulgarian population...use it even if it's outdated (2006; when we have estimate for 2007)??? --PaxEquilibrium 18:02, 26 May 2007 (UTC) The NSI estimate is more reliable than the CIA Factbook. There are more than a couple of cases where the CIA Factbook figure is the outlier and this is one of them. The NSI figure agrees with both the Population Reference Bureau and the United Nations. --Polaron | Talk 18:45, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
List of countries by population densityWhat are the arguments for not having the countries that make up the union of the United Kingdom listed on this page? Since you never put a reason as to why you undid the changes.
--Polaron | Talk 20:00, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
You should bring that up on the talk page of List of countries. --Polaron | Talk 13:06, 27 May 2007 (UTC) RE: HDIOh, energetic particle -- real and imaginary (e.g., Star Trek) -- can you please assist/intervene at List of countries by Human Development Index? A particular semi-autonomous collection of baryons et al. continues to re-add the original HDI figure for the EU, which is disrupting my homeostasis and that of the article. Merci! Corticopia 03:05, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Pomfret and Killingly TurnpikeAre you sure that this only used US 44? An 1813 map shows Mantup Road continuing east across the Quinebaug River. I was wrong about part of it, though, since it appears to have used Hurry Hill Road and Chase Road. An 1833 map still shows most of this, with the exception of the Quinebaug River crossing, and an 1856 map also omits the road between Hurry Hill Road and Chase Road. The book states that it passed over Killingly Hill, and [5] says that Killingly Hill is Putnam Heights, where Hurry Hill Road intersects Route 21. --NE2 22:25, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
No definitive information. All I know is it connected to West Glocester Turnpike in RI, which according to this is now US 44. But it looks like you have more definitive evidence otherwise anyway. --Polaron | Talk 22:52, 5 June 2007 (UTC) I just realized that the 1813 map actually distinguishes turnpikes from public roads. The route as described is indeed shown as a turnpike. --NE2 23:06, 5 June 2007 (UTC) Pine BridgeAccording to [7] (not sure if that URL will work; if not, search [8] for Pine Bridge), the historical post office name was Pines Bridge, but the present name is Pine Bridge. --NE2 23:31, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
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RE: Karachi DivisionGood point, I will add the template to the Karachi Article. Regards 02:01, 15 June 2007 (UTC) rv unsourced changesYou undid the changes I'd done to the article List of countries by population. I do have sources but I don't see anybody else making reference to their source of information. According to Hagstofa Íslands (that would be those who take care of statistics around here) the population (01/04/2007) of Iceland is 309.699 not 301,000 as the out-of-date UN estimate states. Hagstofa Íslands provides the UN with those figures and now it's time to update them. Cheers. --S.Örvarr.S 15:24, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Ruhr area and your recent changesWith your recent changes of Largest urban areas of the European Union, I hope you realize how ridiculous it is that the List of metropolitan areas by population lists the Ruhr with 5,359,228 inhabitants whereas the list of largest urban areas of the European Union now lists the Ruhr area with 10,069,000 inhabitants. Great improvement of Wikipedia credibility! If you had taken time to read the talk page entirely, you would have understood why people didn't use the INSEE list. The INSEE list is based on the 2000 revision of the Geopolis list which uses new definitions of urban areas, whereas the list that you totally deleted was based on the 1990 definitions of urban areas which make more sense to pretty much everybody except you. The 1990 definition distinguished Ruhr from Cologne, Brussels from Antwerp, Manchester from Liverpool, NYC from Philadelphia. Now the 2000 definitions consider Ruhr and Cologne as the same urban area (thus getting that ridiculous 10 million figure), Brussels, Antwerp and Ghent as a single urban area thus getting more than 4 million people, NYC and Philadelphia as a single urban area of 27 million (for Christ's sake, not even the US Census Bureau includes Philadelphia in the NY consolidated metro area!). These figures are completely meaningless, and I wouldn't be surprised if the reason why the Geopolis website is currently down is because they have received lots of negative feedback and they are perhaps checking their new definitions of urban areas. I won't revert your changes, but I completely disagree with the use of the INSEE list for this article, and I am probably not the only one. Besides, the list had been adjusted to take into account cities that have grown tremendously since 2000, whereas the INSEE list you're using is based on 1990s growth rates. So for instance Madrid is completely underestimated (between 2000 and 2006 the Madrid Autonmous Community greww from 5 to 6 million), whereas Ruhr is bloated out of proportion. Keizuko 15:49, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
The Geopolis list is only a fall back if urban area data is not available from any other reliable source. By all means, feel free to replace figures with other ones as long as they are from national census authorities. As it was prior to my changes, most of the figures were unsourced. --Polaron | Talk 16:00, 15 June 2007 (UTC) Also, you should note that urban areas do not necessarily have to be smaller than metropolitan areas. Urban areas are based solely on morphological definitions without regard to how workers commute from one place to another. --Polaron | Talk 16:00, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Urban New EnglandHi, I see what you are going for (the Census Bureau's rationale), but I don't find it in the cites. I could be missing it, but I have a feeling that it is more complicated than anything we want to get into in the article. It may be good enough to say that "the Census Bureau treats it..." or "...considers it..." However, if the rationale for forming the different Census Bureau statistical areas is in fact straightforward, let's just get it right and put it in. (And I apologize if it was in front of my face and I overlooked or misread it). Can you provide a source on how they decide? Either way, the important bit is that southwestern and central Connecticut are (hand-waving here) "oriented" towards NYC. The census category shows that nicely. Jd2718 19:14, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Oops...Thanks for fixing my error in Massachusetts Route 3. --NE2 22:15, 17 June 2007 (UTC) Thanks also for the "save" with NY 58; it wasn't on the main New York map but does appear on the New Jersey map. --NE2 02:53, 21 June 2007 (UTC) 1920s routesDo you anything about the history of Route 106? In 1926, it was a fully east-west route, violating the pattern. Did it extend north or south before Route 138 was designated? --NE2 22:42, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Can you verify whether NY 52 existed in essentially its present form to Carmel on your 1930 or 1931 map? Thank you. --NE2 08:10, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
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--Carabinieri 16:52, 25 June 2007 (UTC) Image tagging for Image:Charter Oak Bridge.jpgThanks for uploading Image:Charter Oak Bridge.jpg. The image has been identified as not specifying the source and creator of the image, which is required by Wikipedia's policy on images. If you don't indicate the source and creator of the image on the image's description page, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided source information for them as well. For more information on using images, see the following pages: This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. 01:05, 26 June 2007 (UTC) RvWould you care to explain why you're reverting my edits? It's more logic to have links to an actual page than to first link to a non-existant page that in turn links to the same page. JdeJ 22:50, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
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Well done! Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:07, 3 July 2007 (UTC) USRD Newsletter - Issue 10
Connecticut Route 108
--GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 09:31, 9 July 2007 (UTC) Greater Boston - Principal CitiesHello, could you point me to a place where I can find the data for the principal cities list in Greater Boston? I watch that article, and I notice that cities get added and reverted from there all the time. The list can't be based on cities that have more jobs than residents, because, for example, Lowell (so I read somewhere) has a daytime population of 60,000, even though it has 100,000+ residents. However, as the 4th largest city in the state, and the second largest in Greater Boston, I think it belongs on this list. Lawrence is probably even worse for that, and Lynn, which isn't on the list, isn't much smaller than deeply depressed Lawrence. I think an official, directly cited source would reduce the constant edit/revert situation. Thanks, CSZero 13:53, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Question about US 6 historyDo you know if US 6 between Port Jervis and Middletown ever had a state route number? Thank you. --NE2 03:22, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
redirecting CDPsJust curious why you are redirecting CDP articles? The CDPs are usually distinct statistical subsets of the the towns, so I don't see the point of redirecting them. older ≠ wiser 20:36, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Golden Horseshoe SourcesMy source is the article for Guelph, Ontario where it says the Metro population is 200,425. Looking at the articles for other cities on the list such as Barrie, Toronto, and Hamilton, the metro populations are the exact same as the ones used on the golden horseshoe article. There is also a source for this information in the first paragraph of the Guelph article. If we need sources on both the Guelph and Golden Horseshoe pages for the same information, let me know and I will gladly put the source into that article as well. I just don't understand why all the other cities have metro numbers listed but Guelph uses a city proper number. --71.199.196.64 05:42, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Thank you thank you thank you!...for the reference to the National Bridge Inventory! I'll get a good look at that!! Denimadept 02:25, 15 July 2007 (UTC) I got a good look at it. It's a nice start, but he's got lots to add. Still worth checking, though. re:List of countries by area 3RR violationI am pretty sure that I didn't break the 3RR. Have a look again, the last 2 edits were not revertings. As I didn't received any replies on the talk page, I will add the EU back. Best regards, --Eurocopter tigre 20:10, 16 July 2007 (UTC) SpirallingHey Polaron. Thanks for sticking with the list of countries by area (and pop) and holding it to standards all this time. I remember when you made some big edits that I found controversial and I argued against them. But in the end I decided to support them because I knew you were here and making thoughtful changes for what you thought was good for the list. I notice you try to stay above the fray, and I respect that. I wish I had the restraint not to get drug into the mud slinging, but I don't. I console myself with the notion that I don't start such things, but that's really not much of an excuse I guess. Anyway, keep up the good work. Malnova 21:50, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Paris urban and metro areasHello Polaron, I know that you edit often contents about urban and metropolitan areas, so I know you have a good knowledge about this. As you probably know the English definition of an urban area is a contiguous built-up area, whereas metropolitan areas are about commuting areas. Anyway, in French, an urban area is called "unité urbaine" (that is translated word by word as "urban unit") and a metropolitan area is called "aire urbaine" (that is translated word by word as "urban area"). Only because of this ThePromenader has edited the Economy of Paris article and replaced all references about the Paris metropolitan area to references about the Paris urban area (or sometimes Ile-de-France). Here's a map showing well the differences between both.
Hope you could do anything about it. As obviously ThePromenader is convinced that's the way it should be. Metropolitan 18:32 20 July 2007 (UTC). The U.S. city guidelineYour efforts to compel folks to at least make a reasonable effort to establish consensus on the talk page before making changes on the project page is appreciated. I believe the only way to enforce this is to revert any changes made without discussion and reasonable effort establish consensus. Thanks. --Serge 20:02, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
No MA or CT (route number)?If it's bad in List of crossings of the Connecticut River, then you or I should probably undo it in List of crossings of the Charles River too, as I did that both places. Denimadept 14:18, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Tagging for the PA route pages im makingIf I can make it easier, should I go ahead and tag the pages in the discussion area on the PA route pages im making right now? Figured I would ask to see if its ok. Thanks :) Whammies Were Here (PYLrulz) 10:39, 28 July 2007 (UTC) Thanks for the help
a sensible debate!Hey Polaron. In case you haven't noticed, two Users that had a disagreement about whether the EU should be listed on the various lists mutually agreed to take their debate here. The exception to previous cases is that they are very diplomatic in their arguments (and the pro-EU guy, from his arguments and edit history does not seem to have any vested interest in the EU, and seems to actually want the EU's entry for it's own merit). I thought the intelligent, civil, organized debate going on there would be a breath of fresh air for you if you haven't seen it yet. I thought about staying out of the debate, but I saw a few issues that had not been addressed and did make some additions. Take a look at the debate if you have time. Malnova 23:36, 31 July 2007 (UTC) TfD nomination of All USRD Clean-up TemplatesAll of the USRD Clean-up Templates have been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. master sonT - C 16:46, 5 August 2007 (UTC) Zagreb metro areaWell obviously, that list is also highly flexible and subjective, isn't it, I mean, many countries don't really define what a metropolitan area is. But in the case of Zagreb, it's all the little towns that gravitate towards it, like Samobor, Velika Gorica, Zapresic, etc., which are unlikely to become defacto parts of City of Zagreb any time soon (the division between City of Zagreb and Zagreb County was made to bring more self-governance to those smaller cities which would likely suffer from underfinancing if they were governed from Zagreb, but it's an artificial division. All those towns are in 5-10 km radius from Zagreb proper and are connected to it through urban sprawl. So the whole county is really a part of wider Zagreb area, or metropolitan area. You can clearly see this here: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=zagreb,+croatia&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=11&om=1 --Dr.Gonzo 01:59, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
An important letterDear roads editor, You may have noticed some changes at WP:USRD lately. Some of them, like the cleanup templates and the stub templates, have been astounding and great. Unfortunately, others have been disturbing. This has become evidenced by the departure of a few prominent editors at USRD, a few RFC's, and much fighting among USRD editors. After the second RFC, many of us found the opportunity to take a step away from Wikipedia for a while--as a self-imposed wikibreak, or possibly on vacation. The result of such introspection was that many of us were placing ourselves in a "walled garden" and on a self-imposed pedestal of authority over the roads department. Also, we were being hostile to a few users who were not agreeing with us. In fact, IRC has been the main incarnation of this "walled garden." Decisions have been made there to conduct grudges and prejudices against a few valued USRD users with poor justification. For this, we have come to apologize. We have come to ask your forgiveness. In addition to this, we hope to work as one USRD team from now on and to encourage cooperation instead of the promotion of interests. All users are welcome to collaborate on IRC, the newsletter, or anywhere else at USRD. In the future, please feel free to approach us about any issues you may have. Regards,
Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 17:17, 9 August 2007 (UTC) List of countries by life expectancyHey! I couldn't help but notice that you are updating the List of countries by life expectancy article. However, it has come to my attention that the data you are using comes from the United Nations World Population Prospects: 2006 revision. I don't think this is the best source available, since all data in the report are future *estimates* for the 2005-2010 period, as opposed to actual, real statistics. Furthermore, the numbers in the report don't belong to a particular year, but are average data from projections for 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010. While you've been making a great effort with the article, I don't think you are using the best sources. I think using real 2004 statistics from the United Nations Human Development Project, as opposed to estimates, is a better option. Data from the CIA world factbook should also be included, since it's more complete (it has pretty much all countries), and its more up to date (2007 estimates from 2006 data). Anyway, I don't want to change anything without your approval, you seem to have put a lot of effort into the article. Regards, --Lobizón 18:58, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
USRD Newsletter - Issue 11
Moving CharlesHey, I appreciate your interest in the Charles, Providence, Rhode Island article, but I'm moving it back. There were a bunch of links to the old location, including the template that actually appears in that article; it's also the standard format for the other 24 Providence neighborhoods.--Loodog 18:18, 25 August 2007 (UTC) Any particular reason you sorted it as a redirect, when it is, in fact, not a redirect? Smartyshoe 12:49, 26 August 2007 (UTC) May i kindly remind you of the WP:3RR rule. I think you have breached it or are perilously close on this article. I would warn the other party as well but it is a constantly changing ip. I have therefore added in some hidden text asking for the person to read the talk page where i have started a discussion, which you are welcome to add to. Thanks Woodym555 13:10, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
North Branford ResidentI saw your edits on the north branford page and you seem to be the only one that has edited the page that is actually from Connecticut. Your not from North Branford, are you? Also, I live in North Branford and have for 14 years. I'm new to wikipedia and would like to expand this article (for my first non-talk edit), but I'm not sure where to start or what information to add to an article like this. My main interest was seeing if your from North Branford so feel free to ignore the rest of my questions. Tainted42 18:59, 8 September 2007 (UTC) Request for map assistanceI see that you have Eastern U.S. maps from the late 1920s. Do any of these go into Maine? If so, can you let me know the earliest one that shows New Brunswick Route 2, and where it crosses the Saint John River? Thank you. --NE2 04:24, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paptimus SciroccoI agree that this article needs to be fixed, and I've made a few more changes myself, but I would not delete or redirect it considering the epic battle between him and the protagonist Kamille Bidan. Shaneymike 14:31, 6 September 2007 (UTC) USRD Newsletter - Issue 12
"___, Connecticut"Please do not remove ", Connecticut" from place pages. Every single other place in the United States, with the exception of a few major cities, has the state's name included. This includes small towns: please check, for example, Nevada or Texas, places whose articles I have never edited. Nyttend 23:26, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Killingworth - Citation QuestionHey, there. Very nice picture you just added to the Killingworth, CT article. The main question I have (and I've scanned around the WP Citation stuff) is if the text, written on the image, qualifies as an implicit citation (ie: not required to source), or how exactly that works. Seems fairly ambiguous. If I missed an obvious rule, just let me know. Thanks in advance.--Curious brain 02:56, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
USRD Newsletter - Issue 13
Igor I. Sikorsky Memorial BridgeWhere does the data for the infobox come from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tedickey (talk • contribs) 11:51, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
USRD Inactivity check and news reportHello, Polaron. We had a few urgent matters to communicate to you:
Regards, Rschen7754 (T C) 23:29, 22 September 2007 (UTC) New Haven Line InfoboxI stated the cause of the problem wrong, as I realized later. The problem with the appearance of the New Haven article had to do with the fact that the next graphic (an image of a bridge) was in the next section and force the next section to start below the infobox. I'm still not sure that I quite have the explanation right. Thanks for not letting it slip by. It would be intesting to see what happens with an infobox in the lead and longer than lead text if the image was forced left (infobox defaults right). How does the layout work if image is in lead? How does it work if image is in first (or subsequent) section. DCDuring 20:16, 23 September 2007 (UTC) Reverts: List of countries and outlying territories by total areaHi, I see that you have reverted the portions of my recent edits to this page which questioned sources and added {{refimprove}}. Rightly so - I missed the table footnote about "unless otherwise specified" sourcing. Your reversions drew my attention to it, and that did resolve the points which I had in question. Cheers. -- Boracay Bill 01:09, 27 September 2007 (UTC) Ile-de-FranceHi Polaron. User:ThePromenader is back again leading his revert crusade. The Île-de-France article has been recently unlocked and only a few days later Promenader couldn't resist deleting a sentence about the metropolitan area of Paris ([10]), even though the sentence is backed by a source. He's also trying to rally people to support him (see User talk:ThePromenader#Other occupations?). It would be good if you could have a look at Talk:Île-de-France (region)#Here we go again. and give some input there. Thanks. Hardouin 12:10, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
ThanksJust wanted to thank you for helping to defend against the IMHO flawed proposed changed of Myanmar to Burma. I'm retiring from that 'discussion' because of the time it's taking and I'm also finding it somewhat depressing reading some of the comments. I'm please to see I'm not the only one to see how flawed and lacking in evidence many of these common usage claims are and how many of them seem to be ignoring countries like India and those in SEA which is rather sad in this instance particularly given that they are close geographically and politically to Myanmar (well compared to much of the rest of the world) and many people in them use English as a second (and sometimes even first) language quite a lot. Nil Einne 18:23, 29 September 2007 (UTC) USRD Newsletter - Issue 14
Just like to say: it's nice meeting an editor who seems to be both civil and well-informed. Cheers! Aepoutre 01:23, 6 October 2007 (UTC) East jutland metropolitan areahello just want so say that the listed population figure in the citations is 1.167.000 but thats the 2006 figures, the combined figures for 2007 for the 17 municipalitys is 1,202,000 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Munchen12 (talk • contribs) 20:38, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Milan metro areaHi Polaron. Your recent revert to the list of European metro areas reads "if you want to use oecd definition, apply it to all cities on the list -- please don't cherry pick data". I understand your position, but there seems to be no uniformity to the list to begin with- it all seems rather subjective with different political and non-political levels to determine what is considered "metropolitan". As for Milan, I truly believe the OECD definition is over-reaching, with the actual metro area somewhere in between. Cheers, Mariokempes 22:51, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Stop Screwing with CHSA national record is significant. Period —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.14.84.60 (talk) 11:05, 18 October 2007 (UTC) USRD Newsletter - Issue 15
New York browsingI'm not sure that we should give NYSDOT errors special status. More importantly, if unsigned routes aren't included, why is NY 495 in the browse? --NE2 17:35, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Exit 62 & 60How is this different from a C/D road that splits into two exits? If I was on I-84 westbound, wanting exit 60, I'd take that exit. --NE2 00:30, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Place of Tricity on Largest urban areas of the European UnionPlease discuss Talk:Largest_urban_areas_of_the_European_Union#Tricity_again Eon 15:04, 31 October 2007 (UTC) Celene (Greyhawk)I note that you have removed the Prod and Prod2 templates from the article that were restored after User:Nancy reverted the edits of User:Trainunion on the grounds that this was vandalism and User: Axem Titanium endorsed the proposed deletion. You indicated your reasons for doing so were that "removal of prod is not vandalism". Have you thought of discussing this matter with any one of us first? I think that Trainunion, Nancy, Axem and myself would like to know whose edit in particular you object to. --Gavin Collins 23:22, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
List of urban areas by populationHello... Madrid city isn't in this list and Madrid have 5.800.000 - 6.400.000 inhabitants. Can you put in the list... 82.159.113.74 19:56, 9 November 2007 (UTC) Larger Urban Zones (LUZ) in the European UnionI'm the boy of yesterday.... In Larger Urban Zones (LUZ) in the European Union put that Madrid are 5.37 inh. Madrid are more inh. Thanks 82.159.113.74 11:17, 10 November 2007 (UTC) San Pablo Avenue is a street in California; therefore, like all streets in California, it belongs in Category:Streets in California... 64.142.13.147 04:55, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
VillagesPlease stop deleting the term village from Vermont communities. The proper term is "unincorporated village" though for Beebe Plain, even that may be a bit of a stretch. As far as deleting them from the category "village" there exists no other category for them in Vermont. A place is (census designated but that isn't a question here) a village, a town, or a gore. A gore is almost nothing. 8 people over ten miles. Most villages are larger than that! We have very few incorporated villages in Vermont. For various reasons the number has been diminishing. Unless a new category "unincorporated village" is defined, the villages you are deleting from the category are "lost" until someone discovers it and replaces them. If you are serious, I think you need to discuss this. Student7 14:37, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Somewhat related to this: sorry about the reversions on the county templates. I was thinking "we don't do it this way for other states", but then other states don't have the specific situations that Vermont does. Nyttend 16:46, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Clinton RoadI noticed you had contributed to the Clinton Road article and am interested in your input. I am currently making a student documentary on the road and am wondering if you would be interested in an interview on the road. Ryan Espin 16:35, 12 November 2007 CDPsWhatever the history is about the CDPs, it doesn't matter. I'm well aware that the local government of the New England states causes a little bit of confusion with the Census, but that doesn't mean that CDP articles are improper. Are you going to delete or redirect all the articles on unincorporated communities? All fifty states have CDPs, and the existence of a Census entry alone makes them notable — moreover, we have articles on neighborhoods in cities nationwide, which often cannot easily be defined and have no official existence of any kind, apart from their cities. Yes, no information was lost, but by redirecting you're confusing the nationwide standard format: please stop. Nyttend 17:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
I had considered blocking you both to prevent this type of disruption. Please take care to discuss these issues on the talk page, and keep in mind further edit warring may lead to a block. If you require mediation of an informal type, let me know and I'll help of locate some help. Regards, Mercury 23:56, 14 November 2007 (UTC) All those Ohio townshipsTwo things on the Ohio townships:
More on the CDPs"I just don't see what else you're going to put in the CDP article aside from technical data." In case you don't see a comment I left on the WP:VT talk page: go compare Boardman Township, Mahoning County, Ohio and Boardman, Ohio. Of course the situation is different from Ohio, but this is a good example of what a CDP article can contain besides technical data. Nyttend 16:37, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
CDPs in New HampshireHi Polaron, I just found (via your talk page) the discussion on the Vermont project talk page about Census-designated place article merging. Based on that discussion, I don't have any problem with merging the New Hampshire CDP articles (the ones where the CDP name is identical with the town name) with the town articles that they belong to. I agree that they're redundant for town centers that have the same name as their town. Any remaining CDPs, such as Contoocook, New Hampshire, are, I believe, already categorized as unincorporated communities as well. Do you want to bring this up in the New Hampshire project talk page? --Ken Gallager 13:38, 15 November 2007 (UTC) TemplatesI've asked for the VT project to produce consensus on a question of placing the state template. Would you be willing to comment? Nyttend (talk) 21:47, 17 November 2007 (UTC) USRD Newsletter - Issue 16
WP:NYSR notificationYour imput is needed into a weekly collaboration for articles under the jurisdiction of WP:NYSR. Comments are at WT:NYSR. Regards.Mitch32contribs 02:20, 24 November 2007 (UTC) MapsDo you happen to have a map of California from about 1930? Thank you. --NE2 22:40, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Route 22 descriptionYes, I'll do what I can (not now, I have to go out). My personal experience with the road is limited to the area between northern Westchester and Rensselaer counties, but I have a similar paucity of experience with US 9 north of Albany and I didn't let that stop me there. It definitely needs to be rewritten with a feel for the area. As it happens, I'm heading for Danbury Fair Mall with my son, which would bring me across the highway in the Brewster-Pawling area, so maybe I could take a few pictures (although I hate taking any sort of outdoor landscapes at this time of year since the colors are not there. But at least I can scout for areas that would look good in warm weather). Daniel Case 17:08, 1 December 2007 (UTC) I am now done with all the improvements I saw that could be made. I have also looked around and found, to my delight, that we now have a U.S. Route 20 in New York article. It's good that we finally have one on what is only our longest numbered highway; however, it has the same problem with its route description. Likewise, we also have U.S. Route 1 in New York and U.S. Route 202 in New York, relatively short routes that need to have real descriptions written (and are relatively short, and in the case of 202 have pictures I can use). So I will be doing a little more work for the project in the coming weeks. Daniel Case (talk) 18:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC) Date reversalI'm sure you have a good reason to reverse dates, as you did in Jay, Vermont in the infobox. This is not standard American and will puzzle most of us the first time we see it. Does it have to be that way? Student7 23:54, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Don't do any more reverts on Ivory CoastEven though it's a content dispute, don't revert Robscure, because you are currently breaching 3RR, which is a 24h block. Miranda 00:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads-up. I added a little bit more information, including a template or two. Do you have anything else to add? I'll try to look up the history of the neighborhood as well. Qqqqqq (talk) 01:48, 5 December 2007 (UTC) Fair Haven, VermontJust wanted to make a request: if you move articles such as Fair Haven (town), Vermont, would you be willing to update the county template? If you don't, as WP:R2D notes, it can make the template confusing. Nyttend (talk) 23:40, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
I-90If I remember correctly, you have New York Times access. Does [12] have anything useful about I-90? --NE2 01:26, 7 December 2007 (UTC) A few more that might have details, especially with respect to I-90 east of I-787: [13][14] --NE2 06:03, 7 December 2007 (UTC) [15] also looks useful. --NE2 16:30, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Does [16] or [17] have anything about I-90 opening? --NE2 23:40, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Norwalk mottoDoesn't the seal of the city of Norwalk have "E Pluribus Unum" right on it as the motto? The 'right time, and place' sounds like a chamber of commerce publicity creation. Pontiff Greg Bard (talk) 13:30, 14 December 2007 (UTC) USRD Newsletter - Volume 1, Issue 17
East River DriveWhere in the interchange does the name change? The Willis Avenue Bridge exit is south of the Triborough Bridge overpass. --NE2 23:41, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
NY 22 barnstar
Pomfret ConnecticutRogers Connecticut is a neighborhood in Killingly. You misspelled "Elliotts." I wouldn't call them communities. They are more historical hamlets. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lacasso32 (talk • contribs) 00:52, 25 December 2007 (UTC) US 1 in NY — thanks!I was pleasantly surprised to get the computer back from my son and see that you had taken care of the intersection list after I did the route description. An unexpected minor Christmas gift! Thank you! Saved me some work and I can go on to other articles after I rewrite the intro. Daniel Case (talk) 18:29, 25 December 2007 (UTC) Ongoing RPG notability/AfD situationHi, Polaron. Was wondering if you wouldn't mind reading my take on this situation around here of late, with all the AfD stuff going on in the RPG sector. My user page article is here. Thanks in advance. Compsword01 (talk) 22:26, 27 December 2007 (UTC) HelloHello Polaron, sorry for mixing different sources for the life expectancy article. I've just realised that you are right about the CIA list being a "bit off" for the developing countries, and it is "off". Thanks Muzammil01 (talk) 14:53, 2 January 2008 (UTC) SouthburyPolaron: I don't really care what order the Southbury article entries are in, but could you please post your rationale for moving them around? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drhamad (talk • contribs) 20:31, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Very UpsetI am unsure if you live in Bristol, but I know I do. I repeatedly worked very hard to modify the Bristol, Connecticut page. Among my additions were: Additional Little League information - I volunteer well over one-hundred hours at the A. Bartlett Giamatti Leadership Training Center every summer, and I found there to be inadequate information so I added what should really be seen be people trying to learn all about Bristol. New Bristol Fire Department information - I recently did a project all summer long to get information about our great Fire Department onto the web. I did many interviews with city firemen and they said they would be checking by all the sites they know to see the outcome of my project. I also added a link to my very informative, very "encyclopedia-like" Wikipedia page. New External Link about Bristol's Very Own Weather Forecast - I also added to the external links section. The link I added goes to my very own weather site that I work hard on. No, it is not any random or copied forecast, as I spend hours building my always-precise forecast and I thought it would be great for Bristol's citizens to check out. I even made sure I wasn't breaking any "rules," so I checked the Wikipedia reference page, "External Links"
As you can see, none of this info is on the Bristol, Connecticut Wikipedia page. Every time I re-add it, you remove it. I am deeply upset over all the hard work I put into the page and it just "somehow" gets quickly removed. I would like this to stop before I take a step further. 71.234.87.109 (talk) 22:17, 7 January 2008 (UTC) Sure I'll fix the photo with the red border. Thanks for the fixes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.234.87.109 (talk) 01:21, 8 January 2008 (UTC) Urban areasThis template is not talking about MSA's. It's talking about urban areas. See the talk page on the template for further discussion. MojaveNC (talk) 05:37, 8 January 2008 (UTC) Thanks!
U.S. Roads Newsletter, Issue 1
Farmington revertHi there. Just a quick note about your recent revert on Farmington, Connecticut I almost reverted it myself, but I did a quick check & it seemed that the edit might have been constructive. TRUMPF, it seems from what I can find, might be notable enough to include in the article. --Pgagnon999 (talk) 01:46, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Life expectancy UN ListHey Polaron, I saw ur note regarding the reverting of my changes. I can find the overall data "both sexes combined" in the WPP 2006 revision but not separate male & female data. The source of that separate data is not mentioned anywhere, though it should be. Could u send me the hyperlink - or even better include it in the article? Thank u in advance! Panos84 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Panos84 (talk • contribs) 19:56, 21 January 2008 (UTC) Metropoltan areasHey polaron i can see that you have deleted paris and Rhine-Ruhr, why? whit more than 11,500,000 citizens they both are large enough to be on the list and there is links to confirm it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Highlife1234 (talk • contribs) 12:39, 23 January 2008 (UTC) PopulationHello, could you explain this edit and summary please? Kind regards.--Vikimach (talk) 16:48, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Massachusetts templatesPlease don't add communities such as Florence and Bradford to the county templates; they are not meant to include neighborhoods of cities. Nyttend (talk) 06:47, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Southington, ConnecticutHi Polaron, thanks for reverting vandalism on Southington, Connecticut. You may wish to take note of the two sockpuppets that subsequently sprang up in the article's history.--Pgagnon999 (talk) 18:36, 29 January 2008 (UTC) Nantucket County templateIs your only objection to the Nantucket County template the fact that it just has two listings? I'm going to be creating more community articles to add to it; if you don't have any other objections to the template, your objections will be satisfied. Nyttend (talk) 19:37, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Missouri townsI will withdraw my comments. I cannot say whether the category should be kept or deleted as I have no independent facts at my disposal Hmains (talk) 21:29, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Connecticut county templatesAs I've noted above with Vermont: it's not good for county templates to link to redirects, so it would be helpful if you modified the links to the actual targets. Nyttend (talk) 02:57, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
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Congrats! Ruhrfisch ><>°° 15:08, 4 February 2008 (UTC) USA and China region conflictHi, It was 3 years ago when USA was ranked no 3 on the page "List of Countries by Area" that I had put both China and USA at the disputed position of 3,4. Now having understood my mistake, i state that the Chinese 6.5% area is incorrect as it includes disputed territories not recognized by UN or anyone else. Second, the USA's 6.7 % area is the official UN figure excluding other US territories except Alaska and Hawaii. This anomaly clearly puts USA as the the no 3 biggest country in the world, without a doubt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.72.56 (talk) 03:03, 9 February 2008 (UTC) USRD Newsletter - Issue 2
I-95Can you direct me where you found that the PA extension of the NJ turnpike is I-95? I know it will be when I-95 is finally connected. Not disputing you, just interested to read up on it. Thanks! -Airtuna08 (talk) 03:51, 17 February 2008 (UTC) Thank you! Gotta find an updated I-95 mileage source.-Airtuna08 (talk) 06:01, 17 February 2008 (UTC) Back to the CDPsI'm trying to get consensus for a standard format for county navboxes, especially related to CDPs, but only four people have participated in the discussion. You participated in the earlier discussion; would you please join the second one so that we can have a broader consensus? Thanks! Nyttend (talk) 15:26, 19 February 2008 (UTC) List of countries and outlying territories by total areaHi. Regarding our recent exchange of edits on List of countries and outlying territories by total area, I won't edit war over this, but we have a situation where an assertion is contradicted by the source cited to support it, the contradiction resulting from (you report privately) the source having an error. That cited supporting source really does need to be replaced with or supplemented by some other reliable sources which either (a) point out the error or (b) do support the assertion which they are cited to support. Also, see the discussion at WT:V#Verifiable sources having known but unverifiable errors, which bears on this. Cheers. -- Boracay Bill (talk) 06:53, 20 February 2008 (UTC) NY 22Great article! I'm gonna be in Plattsburgh this weekend, so i'm gonna try and grab a few pictures for the page. -Airtuna08 (talk) 01:56, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
List of countries by populationHi there. I thought you were in charge of keeping order at List of countries by population, but I see the anonymous IP from Norway has once again changed the figures for France and Germany (removing the French overseas departments and territories from the French figure, and putting an older figure for Germany), and you've edited the article after him/her without reverting these changes as you used to do before (this anonymous IP from Norway has been around for quite a while, hasn't it?). I have reported the anonymous IP for violation of 3RR, but since the guy changes IP quite often (always starting with 80.2...), nothing can be done against him/her if we don't act all together. If we do nothing then next thing someone is going to remove Hawaii from the US figure, or the Canary Islands from the Spanish figure. How long is this cycle of vandalism going to last? We should try and find a solution. Godefroy (talk) 00:18, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Regarding your recent revertof my edit on West Hartford, Connecticut - something must be added to the mayor's name (James Francis) for disambiguation, or it will redirect to some dead Australian bearing this name, which is certainly not the current mayor of West Hartford. Also, try to assume good faith. Thank you ! --ANONYMOUSPUSSY 17:13, 7 March 2008 (UTC) Review requested, please. I know it needs better pictures, but this is what I've got at this time. I got there too late in the day. :-( That's why it's taken me so long to post 'em. But that darn Whittlesey book forced my hand. Yep, that's what it did. Who knows where it'll strike next?? - Denimadept (talk) 04:44, 20 March 2008 (UTC) Citations in the lead of an articleI've opened a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Roads#Citations in the lead of an article — master sonT - C 23:04, 21 March 2008 (UTC) Concurrency color coding and Termini in Junction ListsI've opened a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_U.S._Roads#Concurrency_color_coding_and_Termini_in_Junction_Lists — master sonT - C 23:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC) USRD Newsletter - Issue 3
Some potential 1930 NY routesAll of these existed in 1935, but based on their numbers (and the "clusters") it's possible that some of these came about in the renumbering. If you could give these a look when you get a chance, that'd be great - most are just a "yay" or "nay" if they existed in 1930. Also, if you could check to see if the routes changed by 1938, that'd be awesome as well. TIA.
Rutland (city)Thanks for fixing the image size problem. I don't know very well how that kind of infobox works, so I hadn't a clue how to fix it. Nyttend (talk) 15:12, 25 March 2008 (UTC) This is not your WikipediaThis is not your Wikipedia. Respect that other Wikipedians have different opinion. LUCPOL (talk) 14:05, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
NY 394[18] - since there's probably some Connecticut routes that have similar ties to history, I figured that you'd be interested in this discussion about merging a stub article on an early trail located in the corridor of NY 394 into NY 394. Feel free to comment. --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 07:35, 27 March 2008 (UTC) Chester, CTPlease stop changing the name of the first selectman of Chester, CT to "Thomas March." His last name is spelled "Marsh." You can check that out here: http://www.chesterct.org/departments/firstselectman.htm Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Entre5et7 (talk • contribs) 13:58, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
VandalismThanks for reverting on my page :-) I had antagonised this editor previously by reverting his/her proclamations that Kalida, Ohio had 23 people and 385 households (which had an average income of $5!), of which -3% had children under age 86 living with them. And I also reverted his/her proclamation that I'm a woman, for which I gave a uw-error3 (obviously an error for an Eagle Scout :-) Thanks again! Nyttend (talk) 04:13, 30 March 2008 (UTC) Places in ConnecticutI see you often creating entries for villages in Connecticut, usually redirects to the towns. I've got a list here of villages with post offices but without either articles or redirects. Would you be willing to create one or the other for them? Nyttend (talk) 03:52, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
List of islands by areaPolaron, you have removed the state/province flags from the above article explaining only that they are "not needed". I strongly disagree with this opinion and have stated my case on Talk:List_of_islands_by_area. I replaced the information - commented with "please see the talk page", yet you reverted the article without leaving a counter-argument. Please can you leave a suitable response so that we can take this dispute forward sensibly. I don't want to get into an edit war with you, but I fear we're heading down that road - let's work together to avoid that. Bazonka (talk) 21:55, 31 March 2008 (UTC) Lagos PopulationOn the worlds largest administrative divisions (municipalities/cities) you list Lagos definition as "administrative division" or something to that effect. I've already explained it but "Lagos" as we know it is not a single municipal area governed by a single municipal council. Apart from the local government areas that make up the conurbation the next highest level of government in Nigeria is the state level. There is no "Lagos" council or government except at state level. Below that you have the local municiaplities. The same goes for Santiago. Neither of these cities belong on the "cities" page, but they most definitely belong on the urban area and metropolitan pages. "Lagos" and "Santiago" are akin to "Sydney" and "Melbourne". Do you understand? --Criticalthinker (talk) 03:42, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
NYSR Newsletter - Volume 2, Issue 1
Not all moves need an administrator. The move is question is uncontroversial and can be done easily, as Keihanshin currently only redirects to Osaka-Kobe-Kyoto. See WP:RM: "If the move is uncontroversial and the move is technically possible, then please feel free to move the article yourself." -- Exitmoose (talk) 02:07, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Chinese CitiesPol, we're going to have to find someway to add back the Chinese cities to the world's largest cities page. They are most definitely specially-administered city-provinces and belong on the list. I advocate adding them with their municipal population, since that's what the page is for. But, if you disagree, perhaps we can add only the "inner" boroughs of each city. For instance Puxi, the inner 8 or so boroughs of Shanghai are loosely considered the "city proper" even though each is governed no different than the many other boroughs of the city. They aren't specially governed boroughs within the city, but we could pretend that they are if you really wanted to. --Criticalthinker (talk) 07:54, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
I need helpThere's a bit of a collision in the Talk:Ponte Vecchio page regarding an infobox I inserted. Could you please take a look and see what's reasonable? - Denimadept (talk) 01:39, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
What does that mean?"Purging commons", that is. Will that get the svg files to display properly? - Denimadept (talk) 20:30, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
NY 130 questionWas NY 130 assigned by 1938? The reason I ask is that it was originally part of NY 35 (presumably as far back as 1927) and it was designated as NY 130 by 1947. TIA. – TMF 19:16, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks a lot, I've incorporated the vast majority of these notes into their articles (the exceptions being 130 and 326 because I haven't gotten to either one yet). Here's three more routes out of the "existed in 1935 and may have in 1931 bin": 308, 353, and 7B. In 1935, 308 extended from NY 199 in Rock City to a ferry at Rhinecliff, 353 was assigned to modern Cattaraugus County Route 58 south of NY 39, and 7B was modern NY 357. Were any of these created in the renumbering? – TMF 05:46, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
NY 145This is probably my last request for a while as after I get this article improved, my focus is going to be on more menial maintenance tasks (as listed on my to-do) across the state's recognized content. Based on the NYT map, the portion of modern NY 145 between Cooksburg and Middleburg was designated as part of NY 81 as part of the 1930 renumbering. In 1935, NY 145 is shown on its modern alignment from Cooksburg to at least Cairo (there are no markers on NY 23 between Cairo and Catskill). The reason I say "at least" is that in 1947, NY 23 and NY 145 are shown as overlapping one another all the way to Catskill. Also, by 1947, NY 145 was extended north over ex-81 and ex-NY 164 to its current northern terminus. My questions:
Thanks in advance for this, and a big thanks for all of the information above. – TMF 06:06, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Request for Mediation?Hello - you participated in Gavin.collins' Request for Comment, so I am alerting you that we are preparing a Request for Mediation regarding him. BOZ (talk) 03:16, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
New England Interstate Route pagesYou completely misunderstand the titles of these pages- the New England Interstate Routes were actual routes from 1922-1926, NOT a definition of a group of routes that happen to all be called 8, 9, etc. Why is this so difficult to understand? Find it here: http://www.roadgeek.org/nehwys/ If you continue to revert something that is plainly obvious by the title of the page itself, a historical ROUTE and not a combination of ROUTES, then I'll go to who I have to to resolve this. Monsieurdl mon talk-mon contribs 00:10, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
New England Interstate Route 17OK, maybe we do have room for compromise on the NEIRS, but in this article, I have legitimate proof of NE-17 and its route from the ALA 1923 Green Book, Hudson, NY to Pittsfield, MA via Great Barrington. It clearly states the route as follows: NE-17:
It states the exact route by using landmarks which definitivelky show it did go where I referenced it did. Monsieurdl mon talk-mon contribs 12:30, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
NY 82 and 1930s US RoutesWhile working on NY 82 today (my current task is replacing "decommissioned" with more descriptive language), I noticed a number of things on the 1935 RMcN map. One is that NY 82 continued straight through Pine Plains along Dutchess CR 83A, Silvernails Road, and Columbia CR 7 to Ancram, where it met its current alignment. At the time, modern 82 between Ancram and 199 east of Pine Plains was signed as part of NY 201, a route that went from Pine Plains to Copake Falls via NY 82 and Columbia CRs 7 and 7A. Another is that some of the 1930s US Routes have concurrent state highway designations, likely deriving from the 1930 renumbering. If you could confirm/deny these, as well as the situation with NY 82 above, against the 1930/31 Green Books, that'd be great - not only for the histories of these state routes, but also for the US Route state-detail articles (in the case of US 62, if/when it's made).
The rest of the routes are devoid of overlapping designations. US 15 (still shown as US 111 in PA and NY 2 in NY) has yet to enter NY. – TMF 22:06, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Are you trying to WP:OWN the article as it looks like you revert most changes to the article? As MOS:ABBR a style guideline that is part of the WP:MOS, and thus all articles are subject to it, clearly states: "Current and former postal codes and abbreviations – such as TX for Texas, Calif. for California, Yorks for Yorkshire – should not be used to stand in for the full names in normal text." Thus every postal abbreviation should be removed. The primary reason, is we try for a global context, and it is unlikely someone in Norway will know what TX, AL, AZ, OR, or FL stand for. Additionally, as the guideline WP:R2D also covers, "In many cases where it might seem appropriate to make this change, such as those involving unprintworthy redirects, the better option is to edit the visible text rather than change where the link is pointing." thus a postal abbreviation is only for navigation and would not be a printworthy redirect and should be altered, as it was. Aboutmovies (talk) 21:51, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
editsI am trying to seek a clarification of why my edits were reverted, 'Pop clocks' are not required to update the list, as far as I'm concerned. Indonesia's population is growing about 12k daily, is that not notable enough for you. I am probably going to add "auto updates" to every single country within the next couple weeks, with or without "pop clocks". Dwilso 01:35, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
List of countries by populationI don't understand why you are avoiding explanation about Kosovo. I don`t see any drag to liste it like other entities who are not recognised by UN. --Pockey (talk) 21:46, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
List of cities by populationWhy, oh, why did you revert List of cities by population back to the earlier format? I'm really considering simply placing this page up for deletion, because I fail to see if we're just going to arbitrarily include some city propers and reject others, how it's any different from the list of the world's largest urban areas. I also don't get why we continue to exclude official census numbers and official estimates in favor of the World Gazetter. What happened to the belief that no one knows there citizens better than the country themselves? Outsourcing numbers to the Gazetter simply makes the numbers on the page less accurate and second-hand. Really, you've got to fix this thing, or it simply doesn't need to exist. --Criticalthinker (talk) 00:35, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
NYSR discussionWikipedia talk:WikiProject New York State routes#Ye Olde NY 35 (1927) - your input is appreciated. TIA. – TMF 03:18, 1 May 2008 (UTC) Can you please expand the Special Designations section instead of an one sentence paragraph. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 01:50, 2 May 2008 (UTC) More route questionsDid the roadway along the east side of Keuka Lake (modern NY 54) have a designation in 1931? I know it became NY 54A by 1935, but that's the extent of what I know. Also, I'm wondering if the entirety of NY 12B was formed as part of the 1930 renumbering, and if it was, if there were any changes in its routing compared to today. The 1935 map is unclear regarding the alignments of NY 26, NY 46, and NY 12B in the vicinity of Bouckville. Also unclear is the pre-renumbering designations of NY 12B. Based on the 1926 map, it was mostly NY 12, but the NYT map appears to label it as NY 12A. Any help figuring all of this out is appreciated. – TMF 01:34, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Total population at List of Countries by populationWhy is "On 4 May 2008, if everything is accumilated, you get a total amount of "6,748,122,710" people over the world. This is inaccurate, as the figure has different dates of information" unneeded? It shows a better view of the total population. It's in increase by 100 thousand people, I don't think that's unneeded. If you really do think so, please tell me why Wob-Wob (talk) 17:27, 4 May 2008 (UTC) Delhi InquiryAfter we had the lengthy discussion concerning the population number you used for Delhi being only the actual municipal corporation of Delhi I see the 1,468 square kilometers for its area is the area for the entire Delhi union territoy. This is exactly the reason I nominated the page for deletion. It seems everyone loves the idea of the ranking, but there is so much wrong with it for it to be nearly completely untrustworthy. I see someone added Lagos back (and a number of other "cities). To get back on subject, I expect you to find the area for the actual Municipal Corporation of Delhi if you're going to keep that bogus number you have attached to it. --Criticalthinker (talk) 05:19, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
USRD Newsletter, Issue 4Apologies for the late delivery; my internet connection went down halfway through the delivery process.
Fukuoko City and not Fukuoka, Fukuoka, etc.Hi there. I see that you once argued for this (on the talk page for Fukuoka, Fukuoka) and I couldn t agree more. Nara, Nara, Kyoto, Kyoto etc. is ugly as it in no way reflects the way Japanese 'disambiguate', wouldn t you say. How far did discussion go in 2006 on this - I couldn t find it on the talk page for WP manuel of style for Japan. Best regards, Mayumashu (talk) 21:58, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
USRD participants listAs discussed at WT:USRD, the participants list at WP:USRD is being split by state. Due to any of the following factors- your extended participation in WT:USRD discussions, your IRC participation, or your extended participation in Shields or Maps, I have guessed that you are a nationwide editor and have designated you as such in the USRD partiicpants table. This is part of the lengthy process. If this is in error, please let me know immediately. This is especially likely with this group as I have to guess whether you are a national or a state editor. Regards, Rschen7754 (T C) 21:59, 18 May 2008 (UTC) Another creation requestSince you created a lot of redirects for ZIP Codes for Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island, would you be willing to do it for New Hampshire? There are only six that need to be done. Nyttend (talk) 12:10, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
I-487The yellow-orange tag is on that article do you know?This means this article is poorly written. Why can't it be merge while I-587 can. i-587 is existing sign highway, like other normal highways. I don't know why you want to keep everything a diff artilc.e.--Freewayguy T C 19:40, 29 May 2008 (UTC) SkagwayHi, you may be interested in this conversation... Thanks-- L'Aquatique[talk] 05:56, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
New Hampshire villagesYou know me, not totally aware of New England governmental terms: what constitutes a village in New Hampshire? I thought I had it all down, that a New England village (outside of Vermont) was simply a community that wasn't by itself incorporated, but (a) part of an incorporated place, or (b) part of a grant, gore, etc. I'm going to continue listing villages on new NH templates: this is not a threat or scorn for your formatting, but simply a statement that without your help I don't know what's more appropriate than calling them villages. Nyttend (talk) 04:57, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Back to the towns in MissouriRemember the discussion we had with towns in Missouri back at the end of January? We've got an interesting situation going on at Template talk:Jefferson County, Missouri; could you look at it? Nyttend (talk) 21:07, 12 June 2008 (UTC) self-referential article should not be in main namespaceYou stated in an edit summary that "self-referential article should not be in main namespace" is that WP policy and if so which policy? Thanks! --Kevin Murray (talk) 16:59, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Mexico citiesI've started going through User:Supaman89's logs and it seems he's been moving these cities for a long, long time. I've started reverting them to match WP:NC:CITY#Mexico, but it will be a long process. JPG-GR (talk) 02:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC) Hi ... I see you've edited some of the recent work I've done on List of Registered Historic Places in Tolland County, Connecticut. The reason I included a dab link for Rockville Historic District is because there are two other NRHP sites with exactly the same name in Indiana and South Carolina. WP:NRHP eventually intends to create articles for every site on the NRHP list and the state/county lists give editors a good place to start if they want to create new articles. As I've been creating the state/county list tables, I've taken the time to dab sites with names that are identical to sites in other locations. This will save future editors the trouble of figuring that out. Therefore, I'd prefer to revert that link to back the dab link.
Also, you changed a blue link into a red link when you edited the Farwell Barn link. There's already a stub article named Farwell House that is about the same site. Per WP:NRHP, we want the names that the National Park Service has in their database to appear in the Wikipedia state/county lists; which is why I made it a piped link.
Finally, I see that you're redirecting a bunch of the historic district links to the articles about the towns/cities in which they're located. Is there some precedent for this? These articles should be specifically about the historical significance of these districts. Unless the town/city article mentions the history of the district, it doesn't seem to me appropriate to redirect the links. Plus, it seems to me that it's useful for these links to remain red in the state/county lists so the people on our project know what needs to be created.
Sorry to go on so long on your talk page, but I wanted to share my thoughts and work with you to come to some resolution of these issues. Thanks for bearing with me. --Sanfranman59 (talk) 01:27, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Have also replied to User talk:Mitchazenia and on talkpage. Will pass the article on new considerations. Will allow leniency on the Broad in coveragepoints, as references may be hard to find that would show what the department of highways considered in constructed this road in this fashion, knowing that when such information is found, it will be added to the article. Please give me a shout when all of It is reasonably well written. are covered, re-explained myself on a couple. If you can at least add the AADT for the It is broad in its coverage. section as there is a reference for that aspect already, but not for the lanes, speeds, construction, grades, construction type, NYSDOT planning considerations. Will come to a compromise in that regards, it doesn't cover all that the other featured Hwy articles do, but does follow along the other featured NY highway articles. Kind Regards. SriMesh | talk 02:59, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
SriMesh | talk 03:47, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of New York State Route 343The article New York State Route 343 you nominated as a good article has passed (S)HA Census AreaHave you found any sources to drop Skagway? I've found http://www.loc.gov/catdir/pcc/tentative/twls0821.html, a Library of Congress page from
HIHey that's a lot of messages I see there. I think you might want to delete any "Taken Care of" old messages from like, oh I don't know... 2007! --Check77 (talk) 20:20, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Er, ping. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 20:44, 1 July 2008 (UTC) Oxford County, Maine county seatI left a note on the article's talk page, but I also wanted to give you a heads-up here. While the town is, technically just "Paris", the State of Maine lists the county seat as "South Paris" on the state's official website. I didn't change your edit based on that though; it looks like an unclear or unsettled issue at the least, and either could be correct, depending on which source you use. Right or wrong, people commonly use Paris and South Paris interchangeably (or use South Paris as a synonym for Paris, because the Post Office does), and it looks like the muddling of the issue goes all the way up to state government. Ripogenus77 (talk) 15:11, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Excuse me, but,If there isn't a lot of info on something, you shouldn't add a "Need of improvement" thing. People only know so much, and I know that actually existed because my reletive told me. That user (check77) that created it was right. If you want more info, you should put a "Help Wikpedia improve this article" thing on there. By the way are you a admin? If yes, or no, who are the admins? --Chessecake (talk) 16:29, 3 July 2008 (UTC) Why was the category of Skagway-Hoonah-Angoon Census Area, Alaska deleted from the article? Any road that goes through Skagway (assuming it will, as the article states) would necessarily have to go through it. Skagway is still part of S-H-A Census Area, isn't it? Backspace (talk) 05:25, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
List of countries by areaHello, Can you explain why did you revert my additions to the page List of countries and outlying territories by total area regarding some territorial disputes? I believe it's quite useful to know the actual areas under the jurisdiction of such countries as Moldova, Azerbaijan etc. Sincerely, Sasha Morozov (IP 192.116.216.242) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.116.216.242 (talk) 14:10, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
I-587Is an interstate. Don't they have much more notability than a state route? --FatChicksNeedLoveToo (talk) 18:20, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Why does New York State Route 990L have its own page and I-587 not? That's insane. --FatChicksNeedLoveToo (talk) 18:49, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Grammatically challengedAre you really saying that “routes remains” is grammatically correct? --129.1.31.165 (talk) 20:53, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Baghdad GovernorateFor Baghdad Governorate, where'd you get the area from, and where did you get the information that Mahmoudiyah, Iraq is in Baghdad Governorate? --Criticalthinker (talk) 06:19, 11 July 2008 (UTC) New New York MessagesReceived your email A-OK. Have successfully scanned disk. Should leave in the snail mail tomorrow all goes well. Kind Regards SriMesh | talk 04:25, 15 July 2008 (UTC) List of Urban Areas of the EuNo, I didn't add the tag because Bilbao is not in the list. I added it because it is clearly explained in the BODY of the article that the list is incomplete. So it is incomplete. I don't understand your arguments... where are the sources? the main source is broken! And if you talk about Bilbao with me, well, please check your data. Please, take a look at Greater Bilbao and draw your own conclusions about this urban area. Yes, I understand the definintion of urban area, I can tell the difference between urban area and metropolitan area. Cheers! David (talk) 12:38, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
And... according to your source, the population of the Bilbao urban area is 874,886 , which I can tell is the correct number... as you see it is only 30,000 smaller than the one I proposed.
Route 10 bridge dataWhere'd you get this? Did you use the sites User:LeheckaG suggested? - Denimadept (talk) 20:39, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
LawrencomaHi, User Hisham100/600/whoever-he-is has created a user account with a nearly identical user name to my own (Lawrencoma) (and copied my user page) in order to evade bans and presumably to continue to make his disruptive edits without as much opposition. I personally find this very offensive, as it is my identity being stolen to create edits I disagree with. Anyway, I would appreciate your help in making sure that this vandal is stopped. I've never had to deal with this sort of problem before, so I would appreciate any help you can provide. Lawrencema (talk) 14:04, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
DisambiguationIf you do not believe me when I say this, feel free to email me. I have hundreds of these proper noun pages that conform to what I say. :) It seems that community consensus through practice is exactly as I say the rule is interpreted as. Ottava Rima (talk) 23:27, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Deletion reviewI have posted a question at Wikipedia:Deletion review#Turners_Falls_Road_Bridge which you may be able to answer. Can you please return to that discussion to answer it? Stifle (talk) 18:23, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
I agree that some of what I posted should be on the "other" Deerfield-Montague bridge (I did not realize that there was another). LeheckaG (talk) 01:22, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Map questionWhat's the source for Image:Greater Hartford.png? Nyttend (talk) 23:47, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
USRD Newsletter, Issue 5Apologies for the late delivery; here is the June edition of the newsletter.
RE: Do not "fix" links to redirects that are not brokenIn the words of Johnny Carson, "I did not know that!" Although it seems odd, and I was changing them within a navigation template of sorts, the infobox, which is listed as an exception to WP:R2D. Nevertheless, it is easier not to change them, which I also did in a couple of other route articles that I will find and revert in the morning. Please take a look at Talk:Massachusetts_Route_99/Revision_2008-08-03_Draft. When I created the map for Massachusetts Route 99, I discovered that the EOT data no longer include the Charlestown_Bridge as part of Route 99. I plan on at least expanding the route description into a second paragraph describing the New Rutherford Avenue and Sullivan Square Tunnel components as well as Broadway in Everett and Malden. But, I am having trouble "being bold" about this one. I will probably add an RFC to the WP:MASH talk page, however if you have any information about the change regarding the bridge or can point me to someone with a better knowledge of the road, any help would be greatly appreciated. It has been over ten years since I worked in Charlestown and I probably wouldn't recognize much now. I know that was the case when I walked down North Washington Street and across the bridge to the USS Constitution a month ago today. Sswonk (talk) 05:09, 4 August 2008 (UTC) My talk pageThanks for your help with my talk page: I must say that it was an unusual warning :-) In case you wonder about the context, the IP's talk page is linked to on WP:ANI; search for my username on that page and you'll get to the section quickly. Nyttend (talk) 00:08, 5 August 2008 (UTC) Central Artery revisionsPlease take time to review some non-trivial additions and revisions I have made to the Central Artery article. You are receiving this message because you have made substantial contributions to the article and/or the Massachusetts State Highways Project. I have posted a draft article at Talk:Central_Artery/Draft_2008-08-11. I explain the revisions and add a request for comments at the bottom of that page. Please comment there. Thanks - Sswonk (talk) 17:42, 11 August 2008 (UTC) Forgot to save my final edit, it is there now. Sswonk (talk) 17:55, 11 August 2008 (UTC) New York metropolitan areasThe designation of metropolitan statistical areas & the new creature micropolitan areas is highly political & is based on desire for more statistics, not economic accuracy. Kansas City, MO broke away from its smaller twin only to find its MSA with under 1 million & ensuing marketing problems. If one subtracts the NYC earned incomes from Fairfield County, CT, it looks less pretty. Ditto for Nassau-Suffolk, the 1st MSA designated without central cities. The term Tri-State Metropolitan Area has been currency since the 1920s & the 3rd state was not Pennsylvania. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NYCfellow (talk • contribs) 04:29, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
County level courts in connecticutI was just looking at the official websites of the regional governments in connecticut that replaced county governments and it looks like judicial services in connecticut are provicded at the county level as said in the official regional government website for the Greater Bridgeport Area, which states quote: "The core of the planning region - the City of Bridgeport - is not only the largest city in the state, but also serves as the regional hub for services ranging from medical care to transportation, education, and banking. Bridgeport is also the judicial seat of Fairfield County, containing the Federal, State, and County Courthouses." right on its home page. Im going to go about editing this into the Fairfield County, Connecticut article for now and possibly the articles for the other Connecticut Counties. Just wanted to inform you of this so it would not be mistaken for an untrue fact. Best Regards, -Kotosb ƏngəlanYou may wish to revisit the debate now that both sides have been said and there are 2 sources in the article. By the way, if you want to redirect 4000 articles in Azerbaijan (the goal of the nominator) to point to articles that have no information on them, it's just a waste of everyone's time. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:11, 19 August 2008 (UTC) Wetman and infoboxesSee his talk page and the request for arbitration I've posted at Wikipedia:Editor assistance/Requests#Infobox display dispute - Denimadept (talk) 22:54, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Okay, your opinion please: have I gone off the deep end? I've unwatched User talk:Wetman for now. - Denimadept (talk) 21:01, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
US Metro AreasThe reason I changed the information was because the numbers clearly did not add up as with all the other metro areas. Can you give me your source for the numbers that add to over 4 million people for Seattle? I was using the Census data for 2007. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.216.61.226 (talk) 20:49, 22 August 2008 (UTC) Great Britain vs. Victoria IslandI see now your point about the Ref. for area of GB on <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_islands_by_area>. I only got involved with this when I saw you had undone revision 233646161 by 209.104.163.223 on 23 Aug. Since the reason for the previous edit seemed reasonable, and the old Ref. did not support the old number for the area, I looked further. I found the Ref. I inserted at <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain> and made the correction with this new Ref. Through all this I never noticed the note about where “Most figures are taken from…” Maybe it would be a good idea to make this information more prominent. --Another-sailor (talk) 07:37, 25 August 2008 (UTC) WinsteadCould you place a source on Winstead, Connecticut to show that it's a city, and not just a CDP? Nyttend (talk) 23:35, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Massachusetts countiesYou seem to have just edited a bunch of Massachusetts county articles to (among other things) change "county seat" to "main settlement and former county seat" or the suchlike. Sources such as this site at mass.gov indicate that these cities are still regarded as "county seats", even in counties whose governments have been dissolved. Is there any good reliable source for describing them as "former county seats"? AJD (talk) 23:04, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
List of metropolitan areas by populationHi. Do NOT!!! replace İstanbul's place...Official sourches included... Sourche: Official Adrees based cencus 2008. (TUIK) Link: [1] Template:UnsignedIP
List of metropolitan areas by populationHello Polaron! Why did you remove the change I made on the page "List of metropolitan areas by population"? The metropolitan area of Paris (see the article about Paris on Wikipedia) actually has 12,672,000 (2007 data) habitants. So, Paris should be included in the list of metropolitan areas by population! See there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.253.134.34 (talk) 02:47, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
SSR 441SSR 441 is an important road in Windsor Locks. It should have its own articl with an exit list.Amlnet49 (talk) 21:59, 28 January 2009 (UTC) Took out Image on New Haven (Skyline)I think the image looks fine and should be added somewhere in the article. Is there a place that you think it would look good in the article? Lookinforahome (talk) 22:52, 1 January 2009 (UTC) You reverted an edit on "Larger Urban Zones"Turkey is not within the Eurozone. You have not explained why it should be included in an article on Eurozone cities. It looks like a very tacky article as it stands: Eurozone + Turkey. It would make more sense to add non-Eurozone European cities. 90.202.140.209 (talk) 00:03, 1 December 2008 (UTC) Wrangell, AlaskaI just noticed that Wrangell, Alaska has changed to a borough, like Skagway did last year. Do you have any sources to see if the Wrangell-Petersburg Census Area has had its name changed, like you pulled up for Skagway-Hoonah-Angoon? Nyttend (talk) 00:46, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
USRD Newsletter, Issue 6 (FINAL ISSUE)
Vandalism to Al Anbar GovernoratePlease see my request for a checkuser here. Thanks. Lawrencema (talk) 01:38, 19 September 2008 (UTC) D&D articles for Wikipedia 0.7Hi there! :) As someone who's worked on D&D and/or RPG articles before, I'm inviting you to participate in our goal to both improve articles that have been selected to be placed in the next Wikipedia DVD release, as well as nominate more to be selected for this project. Please see the WikiProject D&D talk page for more details. :) BOZ (talk) 05:20, 23 September 2008 (UTC) WarningHello! Here you used rollback feature in a content dispute. According to rules, such use of a rollback feature is inappropriate and you may get it revoked in case of further abuse. Thanks — VasilievV 2 17:42, 23 September 2008 (UTC) Also, please see this. Any further reverts in this dispute will result in a block. Although the warning there states 24 hours, if you have other 3RR blocks in your logs, the duration will be longer. Jennavecia (Talk) 18:13, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Polaron, I warned SkyBon before you. The other two had not violated 3RR, yet I still left them a note considering at this point, it's a block regardless for anyone. Your note came at 14:18 (my time), I was in the process of getting to Belgian man's talk page at that time. I read your note at 14:22, during my correction of the link to each talk page I posted to. So what, exactly, are you referring to? Jennavecia (Talk) 18:30, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
I-287Yep, I can fix that. Thought the article was just the NJ portion. NY Interstates are next, so I will pick it up then. 25or6to4 (talk) 16:16, 26 September 2008 (UTC) \ GO TO HELLI live in Weston, CT and we're a suburb of NYC because we all go to work there, and have fun there,and root for the teams there. We're not TOURISTS LIKE THE SCUM FROM THE REST OF THE FUCKING COUNTRY!
YOU'RE MAKING IT SEEM LIKE WESTON IS NOT A SUBURB OF NYC...IT IS! YOU MAKE US SEEM LIKE WE'RE PART OF NEW ENGLAND AND WE COMMUTE TO BOSTON, LIKE THE STUPID RED SOX AND HAVE STUPID ACCENTS ("CHOWDAHHHH!!") WE'RE NOT PART OF NEW ENGLAND! WE ARE MORE A PART OF NY STATE THAN CONNECTICUT! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.86.122.109 (talk) 01:24, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Truman BradleyHi - I see that you mentioned there was a claim to notability in one of the external links when you removed the PROD tag. Which link is this? I've checked them, but I'm missing what you're referring to. Thanks! BWH76 (talk) 15:38, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Largest European cities and metropolitan areas - ManchesterHi, The page has been altered to reflect official statistics regarding greater Manchester yet you reverted twice the information produced despite links to the references. Can you please explain how the governement figures can be ignored in favor of a dubious source of information? Ghaag (talk) 13:22, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
List of Interstate and U.S. Highways in ConnecticutWhy should this not be left as its own page? See List of Interstate Highways in New York, List of Interstate Highways in Pennsylvania, etc. There is also a List of State Routes in Pennsylvania and List of State Routes in New York. I'm pretty sure you shouldn't have deleted the other page. They are different lists. The one you deleted has different information. Deigo (talk) 19:46, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Why you erase the state-name from the shield of IA of 20px? IA still specifiy state-name specific in sign drawing. The source of modify sign drawing is shown on Image:I-280 (IA).svg.--Freeway91 20:02, 9 October 2008 (UTC) Take a look at this--Freeway91 20:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC) AFD notificationIN TEXAS THEY DON'T LIKE THE STUPID RED SOX AND SAY CHOWDAHHHH — oops, wrong subject: given your interest in CDPs, you might be interested in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fort Bliss, Texas. Nyttend (talk) 01:51, 23 October 2008 (UTC) CT National Historic DistrictsI noticed that you redirected a couple National Historic District stubs to town names. I was thinking it might be better to leave them as separate articles...what do you think? Swampyank (talk) 23:54, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
U.S. 163 truncated?See discussion on the talk page Talk:U.S. Route 163. Thanks. DeFaultRyan (talk) 21:39, 30 October 2008 (UTC) Truncation of U.S. Route 163Polaron, what is your source for the truncation? The route log on UDOT's homepage still shows the last change as the 2004 change.Dave (talk) 21:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC) U.S. Route 5Using the word "following" does indeed imply to me, that the construction doing the following was there last. It implies poor history to people unfamiliar with the area. 5 followed the railroad, that is true and allowable, but 5 does not follow I-91 any more than the US Constitution followed France's (despite similarities). Student7 (talk) 12:49, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Boundary changesSince you give a source, I'm stopping immediately, but I'm not going to undo (and I ask that you stop for the moment) until I can see the proof: you accidentally gave me the wrong page :-) Nyttend (talk) 01:12, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Land Area of BaghdadI was able to find an email address for the Baghdad Municipality, more specifically the mayors' office, and wrote them concerning the area of Baghdad. While I'm writing back to get more clarification, I got an answer back from their office, today, telling me that the city is "about 900 kilometres square", and this includes the 9-district city, so I guess the governorate and city aren't one and the same after all. What I was wondering is when or if I do get clarification, how exactly does one cite information from an email on wikipedia? --Criticalthinker (talk) 04:58, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
West Haven, CTThere may be more interest in West Haven now that it's been named one of the best places to raise kids in 2009 by Business Week. (http://images.businessweek.com/ss/08/11/1110_best_places_for_kids/8.htm). I stumbled across the WH Wiki page while looking to see if the photo accompanying the blurb was really taken in WH or if it was a generic New England house photo. I was born in and lived in Waste Haven for 22 years (I left in 1979), and I can tell you that all the local adolescents called it that. I can also tell you that when I was growing up it had a sketchy reputation, and even to this day, when I meet other folks who have lived in Connecticut and tell them I grew up in West Haven, they check to see if I have a cigarette pack rolled up in my T-shirt sleeve. There is an actual rock, called Savin Rock, that still exists to this day, near Jimmie's, at Bradley Point. The community I grew up in, West Shore, was predominantly Italian, and lower class. Benham Hills was one socioeconomic step up. I remember well when the first black family moved into Benham Hills, and the uproar *that* caused - especially when considering that the family moved into the outer edge of Benham Hills. My grandmother worked at the Savin Rock Amusement Park, and there's a great video on YouTube that could be linked: A pretty good video taken at Savin Rock in 1949: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b38RuEHBx3M --Sgreenhouse (talk) 16:45, 11 November 2008 (UTC)sgreenhouse Edit warJust a friendly reminder: you and Kotosb are definitely in an edit war at {{Fairfield County, Connecticut}}, and it seems like you're in a violation of the three-revert rule. I don't want to get involved more than necessary, but I'd like you to remember that "Users violating the rule may warrant a block from editing for up to 24 hours in the first instance." Since nobody seems to have brought this up before me, I'll not block you now; but if you continue, I'll have to block for a short time to make sure that the template can stay stable. Nyttend (talk) 03:55, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Lima PopulationPlease check out my post in Talk:List of cities proper by population. I'd think we'd use the latest official estimate as opposed to the Findland Statistics number, no? --Criticalthinker (talk) 09:05, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
New tabular layout for the list of countriesVery good - see also my comment on the list's talk page. A reason for French Guyana to be included is that it got an ISO code and the mention 'overseas department' could possibly be moved in column 3, as well as 'constituent country' for E/W/S/NI. PS: I hesitated posting this on your own talk page, the (empty) talk page of the demonstration page or create a new sub-section about this on the list's talk page. Feel free to move the lot on the place you find most appropriate. Clpda (talk) 23:15, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
ThanksThanks for correcting this [20], I only reverted the latest user and did not notice the earlier problems. JdeJ (talk) 12:43, 25 November 2008 (UTC) Brighton PlantationThanks for finding another source for the plantation name. How I wish that they were all named "_____" or "_____ Plantation"...it's so confusing the way that the state has it now! Grrr... Nyttend (talk) 04:51, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Gavin.collins RFC/UHello. A request for comment on user conduct has recently been filed regarding Gavin.collins. Since you had endorsed at least one summary in the prior Request for Comment, I thought that you would want to know. You can see the RFC/U here. Thank you. BOZ (talk) 00:45, 6 December 2008 (UTC) Little community adviceI saw an IP modify {{Dane County, Wisconsin}} to change "Ashton Corners" to "Ashton". Looking at the GNIS, I found a really confusing situation: BOTH have entries! Look at Ashton and Ashton Corners. Looking at Google Maps, it seems that they're about a mile away from each other, along the same road. Are they really big enough to warrant separate articles, or should they be merged; and if they're merged, under which title do you think we should list the combined communities' article? Because the article is now entitled AC, I'm putting the notes back to AC for the moment, but we really need to get this decided at some point :-) Nyttend (talk) 21:32, 8 December 2008 (UTC) Union City, New Jersey
EU entry in statiscal listsYour reverts breach a longstanding thoroughly discussed compromise. Lear 21 (talk) 15:03, 3 January 2009 (UTC) Hi Polaron, I appreciate the effort you go through in maintaining a high quality level for the List of countries and outlying territories by total area. Thanks! - However, we disagree about the positioning of the EU entry. I content myself with the standing compromise, but not with the recently pushed move of the EU entry from the initial section to the very end of the article. If you choose to revert the standing article's structure to your preferred structure, I would at least ask you to give a correct and complete edit summary. Your last edit could be seen as kind of sneaky ... All the best and take care, MikeZ (talk) 11:27, 4 January 2009 (UTC) Removing NRHP stubsI know we disagreed earlier about merging my historic district stubs, but hopefully we could let them stay independent. The National Register of Historic Places project has been stubbing various articles with the hope that the stubs will grow into lengthier articles as people who know about the area read them and add to them. I'd prefer to leave the stubs because the historic districts are independently notable from the various towns and there is a wikilink to the town in the stub. It is a bit of a hassle to go back and create the infobox or reenter basic information for the district at a later date, and readers are less likely to add to the stubs if they do not exist. Swampyank (talk) 23:17, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Your revert regarding addition of Ruhr Area into World's largest urban agglomerationsHi Polaron, you revered my addition of the Ruhr Area into the list of World's largest urban agglomerations. Would you like to state your rationale to do so? - Thanks and take care, MikeZ (talk) 23:56, 4 January 2009 (UTC) A contest you may be interested inHello, Polaron. There is a new contest for U.S. and Canada roads that you may be interested in. To sign up or for more information, please visit User:Rschen7754/USRDCRWPCup. The contest begins Saturday at 00:00 UTC. Regards, Rschen7754 (T C) 04:07, 8 January 2009 (UTC) You're invited!
In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, look at our approval by the Chapters Committee, develop ideas for chapter projects at museums and libraries throughout our region, and hold salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects (see the November meeting's minutes and the December mini-meetup's minutes). We'll make preparations for our exciting museum photography Wikipedia Loves Art! February bonanza (on Flickr, on Facebook) with Shelley from the Brooklyn Museum and Alex from the Metropolitan Museum of Art. We'll also be collecting folks to join our little Wikipedia Takes the Subway adventure which will be held the day after the meeting. In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and generally enjoy ourselves and kick back. You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list. To keep up-to-date on local events, you can also join our mailing list. Norwalk WikiGreetings, great work on Norwalk related stuff. I recently created the Norwalk Wiki for everything that would not otherwise be notable enough for Wikipedia. Its brand new, so we (ahem, really just "I" right now) need to get the word out about it. I invite your correspondence. Pontiff Greg Bard (talk) 22:06, 12 January 2009 (UTC) Delhi land areaWhere you ever able to do any more research into the land area of Delhi? I'm convinced that the 1,397.3 km2 is the correct area for the municipal corporation, and the 1,484 sq km is the more correct number for the state. --Criticalthinker (talk) 08:36, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
DYK for U.S. Route 20 in Massachusetts
Dravecky (talk) 00:01, 18 January 2009 (UTC) Palmer, MassachusettsPalmer's article says that it's a town, governed by an "elected town council". Can you provide a source for it being a city? Searching the article for "city" gave no significant results. Nyttend (talk) 22:39, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
BraintreeAnother city with a CDP...I do admit that I'm annoyed by this happening. As far as you know, does the state have any official list of cities that we could check to ensure that there aren't any other CDPs within cities? Nyttend (talk) 23:58, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
ShanghaiHi, I just wonder why you defined the city proper of Shanghai by the listed districts in your recent update of List of cities proper by population? Source for this definition?--Pjred (talk) 16:54, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Bradley Airport Connector
Dravecky (talk) 20:41, 30 January 2009 (UTC) NYC Meetup: You're invited!
Join us the evenings of Friday February 6 and Saturday February 7 around Wikipedia Loves Art! museum photography events at the Metropolitan Museum of Art and the Brooklyn Museum. There will also be a special business meeting on Saturday dedicated to discussing meta:Wikimedia New York City issues with guests from the Wikimedia Foundation. You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list. To keep up-to-date on local events, you can also join our mailing list. DYK for U.S. Route 2 in Vermont
Dravecky (talk) 13:08, 3 February 2009 (UTC) NY 23Thanks for the quick turn around on the map! --Airtuna08 (talk) 20:52, 5 February 2009 (UTC) DaytonnatiThanks for checking the references: I was confident that all the data mentioned was supported by the reference, so I'd not checked the source itself. Nyttend (talk) 16:01, 6 February 2009 (UTC) Hartford Meetup: We need your help!The next Connecticut Wikipedia meetup will take place sometime during April 2009 at Real Art Ways cafe and arts center in Hartford, Connecticut. Please list on the meetup page whether or not you can go. Also please contribute ideas for topics and dates! Hope to see you there! You have won Round 1 of the USRD-CRWP WikiCup!Congratulations! You have been declared a winner of Round 1. This is just to let you know that Round 2 will be starting Sunday night. Please note the point value changes for Round 2 as well. --Rschen7754 (T C) 08:55, 7 February 2009 (UTC) Shanghai Population...Hi there, what definitional reasons are behind your revert of my edit? I used the number from Gazetteer, which has been updated for 2009, and now has Shanghai ranked as more populous than Mumbai. Since the article's figure for Mumbai also comes from the same source, shouldn't this article be updated according to the latest figures from Gazetteer? By78 (talk) 02:55, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
By78 (talk) 02:55, 9 February 2009 (UTC) Connecticut Meetup: You are invited!The 2nd Connecticute Meetup will take place on April 18th, 2009 at Real Art Ways cafe and arts center in Hartford, Connecticut. Please state whether or not you can attend on the meetup page. Largest European cities and metropolitan areas - Manchester - AgainHi, I am concerned regarding the validity of the data regarding the so-called Manchester-Liverpool area. A number of users have expressed the same concern and I would like you to shade some light on those contested figures. Please do engage in one of the discussion #9, #18 or even on this very page. Kind regards, Ghaag (talk) 02:09, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
RedirectsI'm a little confused with your edits. Redirects are fine in the short term since they work, but they are also slow and it doesn't hurt to fix any if they are found. I fixed the one on the wikiproject because it encourages people to use them, which it shouldn't; this is the while reason for the piped links. What reason do you have to revert? If I want to be helpful and fix it, I can, if you want to leave the redirects that you find, then that's fine, but lets not be counterproductive. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 23:09, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
USRD-CRWP CupYou have been eliminated from the USRD-CRWP Cup. Thanks for participating! I plan to have another contest within a few months; stay tuned to WP:USRD/B for updates. --Rschen7754 (T C) 19:03, 1 March 2009 (UTC) Fort Devens (CDP)You proposed the merger, on which I've now commented; would you please explain your reasons for proposing it? Nyttend (talk) 02:12, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Population of MoscowRegarding your recent edits. The total population for the city and metro area, including legal residents and illegals, is over 15,000,000. Not 10,000,000 as FALSELY stated in the infobox. I have reverted your edit, as I have provided evidence for my claim (see Discussion page for the article). --142.33.70.202 (talk) 19:58, 4 March 2009 (UTC) Metro etcI noticed that treat these articles as your property [21], [22], [23]. Calm down, Wikipedia is not your property. Anyone can edit Wikipedia. LUCPOL (talk) 01:12, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
I repeat: I noticed that treat these articles as your property [24], [25], [26]. Calm down, Wikipedia is not your property. Anyone can edit Wikipedia. Any changes to these articles are your thoughts. You think that these articles (metro, urban etc) are your. You reverted teens editions of other users. The end of this. LUCPOL (talk) 13:19, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Violations of copyrightThank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you may want to do. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Violations of copyright [30], [31]. You can only to move the article with the history of changes from original article. There is no other option. Do not move the content without the history of changes. This is vandalism. Please, read license of Wikipedia - GNU Free Documentation License or you ask one of the administrators. LUCPOL (talk) 15:32, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
LUCPOL edit warringJust now I'm discussing with LUCPOL at this question. He claims his poor English is the reason, but I don't think so. I'm talking with him in Polish (his native language but his mothers tongue he claims Silesian). I'm trying to mediate between you and LUCPOL.Bogomolov.PL (talk) 18:30, 15 March 2009 (UTC) HelpHello, tell the idiot in Talk:List of cities proper by population why we use "Greater London" as a city proper. Better yet, tell him what I already told him, that after much consideration, this is a decided issue. We're using London's regional government as its "city proper" and that's the end of that. --Criticalthinker (talk) 05:08, 16 March 2009 (UTC) You're invited!
In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, sign official incorporation papers for the chapter, review recent projects like Wikipedia Loves Art and upcoming projects like Wikipedia at the Library, and hold salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects (see the January meeting's minutes). In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and generally enjoy ourselves and kick back. You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list. To keep up-to-date on local events, you can also join our mailing list. Annual growthHi, according to the same source the province had an annual growth of 9.08%. doesn't this explain the reason of such a population growth? Ellipi (talk) 15:16, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
There is no updated official source; a census is going to take place later this year. I personally have no idea if the figures given in Gazetteer are right or wrong. Thanks. Ellipi (talk) 15:31, 26 March 2009 (UTC) Hey!Dont take all the credit for the Bradley airport Connector DYK. I created the SSR 441 article which you changed into the B.A.C! Amlnet49 —Preceding undated comment added 21:10, 29 March 2009 (UTC). Area of KarachiI'll make you a deal - i wont revert the (probably) erroneous info on the List of metropolitan areas by population page, if you will please respond to the questions and irregularities on the talk page for the same article. The info on Karachi is evidently wrong - A metro area cannot be smaller than the city proper. The note in the article says dont make changes without discussing on the talk page, so i put this and several other questions there. I noted in the Summary section that the reason for the edit was described on the talk page. I got no response to good faith questions. Help me out - Thanks! Nothingofwater (talk) 20:30, 30 March 2009 (UTC) Naugatuck, ConnecticutHi. Please do not add or re-add unsourced material to Wikipedia articles, as you did with this edit to Naugatuck, Connecticut. WP:Verifiability requires all material in articles to supported by verifiable, reliable sources cited explicitly in the text of the article, and not in a different article. As indicated here, other articles cannot be used as sources. Thank you. Nightscream (talk) 06:53, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
I appreciate your contributions to this article, however having a post office inside a hamlet and the USPS using a hamlet name for that ZIP code does not mean the USPS recognizes certain hamlets, same with the census bureau and CDPs. You may want to read ZIP code, there is an entire section on that article dealing with this very issue and will explain in detail the USPS's stance. You may want to read other relevant articles on CDP's and post offices, they will illuminate more clearly the difference and why ZIP codes and CDP's are specifically NOT endorsements of hamlets or boundaries or recognition. I hope this helps and if you have further questions feel free to ask. I think reading those articles and checking their sources may be of great use to you. Thank you and I hope there is no hard feelings on my revert on your edit.Camelbinky (talk) 00:44, 4 April 2009 (UTC) MD 295 on Capital Beltway articleThere's a common ground, but I couldn't fit it in the edit description, and I'm sorry but I have 0 time to talk about it right now. I'll shoot you a message later. I don't agree with how it looks right now on the article though. Google "Maryland Route 295" and just take a look at some of the things that give directions "From the Capital Beltway, take the B-W Parkway (Maryland Route 295) north..." etc. Until later, --MPD T / C 01:47, 5 April 2009 (UTC) Lock out By78Can you lock out By78 from vandalizing the city propers' page? He keeps changing the Mumbai pic, and I'm not sure how to lock him out, or even if I'm able to do that. --Criticalthinker (talk) 02:39, 7 April 2009 (UTC) I dont think you read my edit summary before reverting my edit. I agree that by definition a CDP can not be a part of an incorporated area (though technically that is not true, because towns in New York ARE incorporated, properly put you should state "by definition a CDP can not be a part of a municipality recognized by the census bureau"). The reason I removed that sentence is that it is already repeated AND cited a few sentences later in the article by the statement that a CDP can not be within a city or a village. And since everything in New York (except Indian Reservations) is within a town or a city the statement that a CDP cant be in a city or a village leaves only areas in a town outside a village. My edit preserves only statements that can be verified and sourced and allows the reader to make that leap for themselves, whereas your version keeps a statement that can be considered OR since it is synthesis of the later sourced sentence and the facts I stated above concerning NY being broken into towns and cities with no land outside it (except Indian Reservations).148.78.249.31 (talk) 03:11, 9 April 2009 (UTC) It looks like you had removed an AfD template that I had placed at this article, as well as another template (see diff). I just wanted to make sure there wasn't some other reason that you'd removed the AfD template...looks like it was on accident? thanks, scooteytalk 09:16, 12 April 2009 (UTC) Non-consolidated citiesYour solution for the non-consolidated cities is unusual, but the situation is too, so thanks for being innovative :-) Nyttend (talk) 01:02, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Please read what a sock puppet is before you accuse people of itPer Wikipedia:Sock puppetry it is ok to have multiple accounts or edit under IP address only, I am not doing any of the things listed on wp: sock puppetry that are against wikipedia official policy. I have retired the user: Camelbinky account, at least temporarily, as Daniel Case (an admin) is on wiki-vacation and out of the country, he has agreed to look into harrassment against me on that account when he returns which is why I am editing under an IP address and did not wish for you or anyone else to harrass me so I did not advertise who I am, nor was I required to do so. I suggest you keep your comments on discussion pages to the relevant discussion topic per wikipedia rules on discussion page talk. Other people at my work and home do edit using these computers so do not put any sock puppet templates on any IP address of "mine" again please. I do not have to tell you who I am when I edit, I can have multiple accounts if I want, I am not making disruptive edits, vandalizing, or having a "good" account and a "bad" account, I am not making multiple votes in any polls, I am not making multiple supporting comments under different accounts or IP's, in fact since retiring Camelbinky I have made sure to mention that each of my IP accounts are all the same person when it is personally me talking. The fact I did not say they are also the same person (some of the time) as Camelbinky is not relevant nor needed nor required. You handled yourself poorly and I now get "attacked" or harrassed again because of this, I will add you to my complaint. I suggest you allow me to peacefully edit and contribute to wikipedia, you argue with me at every chance you have and somehow dont think the facts I give are truly facts, I dont know what you have against me, but I truly suggest you leave me alone.24.182.142.254 (talk) 06:54, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
I would again like to thank you for your understand and apology and to apologize to you again myself. You appear to be the only one who understood and treated me with good-faith after I explained my situation and I admit I was unduly rude to you, I hope you accept my apology, I truly just want to do what I love, having Asbergers I have been since I can remember obsessed with learning geography and history of the area in which I live and love so much. I just want to be left alone to edit and make these articles better and factual. I have no social skills (I know what a surpise, I bet you didnt notice). Thank you for your understanding and patience. If there is any way in which I may make this up to you dont hesitate to ask for a favor.Camelbinky (talk) 05:40, 14 April 2009 (UTC) WestminsterThanks for catching the error at Westminster, Texas. Nyttend (talk) 04:19, 21 April 2009 (UTC) Naugatuck River ValleyCould you please explain to User:Gary.farrar on his talk page what he is doing wrong, using as simple language as possible? Simply reversing his edits without giving him some clearer instructions is leaving him puzzled and unenlightened (he even created his own content fork version), and he is driving the rest of us crazy on the Help Desk. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:04, 23 April 2009 (UTC) Rollback is only for blatantly unproductive edits, such as vandalism and nonsenseHi Polaron. After answering a question at the help desk I happened upon a revert you had done in relation to the question and noticed you had used rollback for an edit that was not clearly vandalism, nonsense, or otherwise clearly unproductive. Please don't use rollback for reverts of any possibly good faith additions that don't meet that standard. Taking a look at your contributions over the last ten days here are some of the reverts edits that do not appear to me to be proper use of the rollback tool: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. I do not mean to imply that you shouldn't have reverted these edits, just that a different method was in order, at best, with an explanatory edit summary.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:04, 24 April 2009 (UTC) (City, State) vs. (State) for disambiguationI noticed your move of West Hill Historic District (West Hartford, Connecticut) to West Hill Historic District (Connecticut). I don't care much about just one article, but there are many thousands of NRHP articles using (City, State) form of disambiguation, which I happen to think works better. Among other things, it is awkward to refer to the article, say in a DAB page like West Hill. With the former approach, it can just be listed as "West Hill Historic District (West Hartford, Connecticut)", listed on the NRHP in Connecticut. With the latter, you have to explain where it is, because (Connecticut) isn't good enough, so: "West Hill Historic District (Connecticut), in West Hartford, Connecticut, listed on the NRHP in Connecticut". I think i have more reasons too. Actually there does need to be a big discussion, somewhere, about these approaches vs. using commas instead of the parentheses, as has been done for many historic places articles in England and elsewhere. Let me know if you want to be involved in a big discussion about it. If you don't, that's fine, but then please don't move others. doncram (talk) 01:39, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
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Reverting others' changes more than once is not known as being a good way to 'gauge consensus.' EdJohnston (talk) 20:31, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
List of countries by population silliness
Again you're being misleading. Those were all restorations of the long-standing UN data, which you finally agreed to. But even after you yourself put in the UN data, you still reverted my clarifications blindly saying that what I was doing was vandalism without even checking my changes. I don't know why you say that I keep reverting to a false figure. --Polaron | Talk 15:46, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Content disputeHi there! Just a small note; I've left a note here pertaining to you, if you'd like to comment. Thanks, Master of Puppets Call me MoP! :D 04:06, 28 April 2009 (UTC) Rollback ability disabledHello again Polaron. I have removed your ability to rollback edits. Following my post higher on this page I was hoping you would take the clear provisions of rollback use to heart. Yet your revert here is another instance of improper use. Not only could you not know from that edit whether it was vandalism or nonsense, but it turns out that not only was it made in good faith, but it was apparently correct. Again, this is not to say that you definitely should not have removed that edit—it was an unsourced addition with no edit summary—but it wasn't vandalism or nonsense or anything even close. Your two reversions before that look like test edits and not vandalism. The one immediately before those, here may be wrong but looks like good faith to me. The one before that is another reverted good faith edit, and here's another, and another. I'll arbitrarily stop there.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:05, 30 April 2009 (UTC) You're invited...
In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, establish a membership process for the chapter, review the upcoming Wiki-Conference New York 2009 (planned for ~100 people at NYU this summer) and future projects like Wikipedia at the Library, and hold salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects (see the March meeting's minutes). In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and generally enjoy ourselves and kick back. You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list. To keep up-to-date on local events, you can also join our mailing list. Check this out[38] It's the 1920 report of the New York state highway commissioner to (apparently) the remainder of the state government. I'm still reading through it, but it appears any route that has an internal state highway designation under 5000 was initially a "county-maintained state highway". It also appears that the legislative routes—one of which, Route 3 (US 9W), is referenced in a section on a bridge over Rondout Creek—were all assigned SH designations in the 5000s. What seems to back this up is the text describing Route 43 (32 and 29 between Stillwater and Schuylerville) in the 1919 highway law. Its northern end west of Schuylerville is given as a junction "with county highway number two hundred and forty-four". I checked the DOT topo of Schuylerville; sure enough, the internal SH designation of NY 29 from the western Schuylerville village line to the Saratoga Springs city line is 244. So I guess sometime between 1920 and the 1930 renumbering, the state took control of all of these roads? That's how it seems, but I'm speculating heavily. As for the legislative routes, I took quick samplings of legislative Routes 43, 25 (50 and US 9), and 37 (29) on the Schuylerville, Quaker Springs, and Saratoga Springs quads. Route 43 is SH 5205, 5230 and 5277 from the vicinity of the modern 32/423 junction through Schuylerville to the eastern terminus of SH 244. Route 25 is 5062 inside Ballston Spa but has sub-5000 designations everywhere else. Route 37 is 5711 and 5713. A visible portion of Route 37-a (67) is 5534. However, the sub-5000 parts of 25 are noted as being part of Route 25 in the log for Saratoga County in the back of the report as "county highways" (county-maintained portion of a legislative route?). I posted a lot of this on IRC, but I wanted to post it here as well to ensure that you saw this as I think this could be a pretty big development. It definitely brings us one step closer to a "history of state highways in New York" article and could explain why so few highways were numbered in 1924. – TMF 04:59, 4 May 2009 (UTC) BTW, credit to finding this report goes to Mitchazenia - I saw the report linked on NY 321 earlier tonight as I was doing article cleanup. – TMF 05:01, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
List of municipalities in MassachusettsI completed the main list with citations. I don't know if we still need the next list, "cities by official name", kill it if you think it's covered by the main list. It is a good source of city websites, so may be useful. There are some formatting tweaks that could be done, and the matter of now having merged the "list by population" into the main list cleared up. I'll get back to finalize the references for the main list with cite templates unless you can take care of that. This has been needed for quite some time, I'm grateful that you have taken it on. Sswonk (talk) 07:53, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Alleged changesStop claiming that these communities status' have changed without providing a source — you well know that nothing may be added without a cited source present. Nyttend (talk) 01:54, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
And now you're retaliating, very classy. --Polaron | Talk 19:15, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Fine, I'm a vandal. I never make constructive edits. Thanks for playing. --Polaron | Talk 03:00, 19 May 2009 (UTC) Editing practicesPolaron -- I reviewed a couple of Connecticut NRHP-listed historic district articles/redirects and judged that it is appropriate to change how a couple of them (Pomfret Street Historic District and Quinebaug Mill-Quebec Square Historic District) are handled. It dismays me somewhat to encounter seemingly instant reverting on your part to some of my changes. You might have different information, not yet shared, which might inform you differently than the information that I am basing my edits on. But I would appreciate your discussing and sharing such information. I am hopeful that you are not trigger-happy for an edit war based on minor differences in judgement, when getting more real information out in the open could better help settle matters. Could you please discuss the specific situations at Talk:Quinebaug Mill-Quebec Square Historic District and, i guess at Talk:Connecticut Route 169 (although it could be relevant to talk at Talk:Pomfret, Connecticut or at least link from there). While editing this note, i think you are in fact commenting at one or the other. And now you seem to be making wholesale changes at Pomfret, Connecticut article. I will back off for a while and let you finish whatever you are trying to do now. But, I would ask that in the future that you allow me the similar courtesy, rather than butting in to revert and in effect mess up some edits in process. Let me know when you are done, and/or i'll wait a day. And, let's just be decent about this, okay? doncram (talk) 04:04, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Pepperidge Farm in Fairfield, CTHi - Pepperidge Farm had a small bakery in Fairfield over 60 years ago. Even though it says Former HQ on the Notable & Distinctive Companies of Fairfield, it seems misleading and out of place. They are linked to Norwalk. Let me know what you think. Thanks, eb carrier —Preceding unsigned comment added by EBCarrier (talk • contribs) 01:44, 18 May 2009 (UTC) Township No.Thanks for the note; see my comment. Nyttend (talk) 10:53, 19 May 2009 (UTC) Polk County, IowaThanks for noticing and fixing my error (I apparently didn't notice that a new reference had been supplied); but next time, would you please explain why you're reverting instead of simply hitting the undo button? Nyttend (talk) 06:33, 25 May 2009 (UTC) CDP'sHey! Just was wondering, figured id collaborate with you on this instead of getting into a pointless edit war with each other, don't you think that Connecticut CDP's should be distinguished from other unincorporated villages in Connecticut's county templates? I know in the county templates of Wisconsin and all of the New England states (except for Maine) define CDP's from other unincorporated communities. Just saying. Oh, and the Fairfield County page is really excessive so im debating breaking it up some time this summer when I have some spare time into sub articles all linked together through a template just like with major cities on Wikipedia such as new york and LA, as to not discourage readers by the page's immense size, just wondering your input on that weather you think it is necessary or not? Thanks, Kotosb (talk) 02:33, 30 May 2009 (UTC) Dead referencesFYI, I manually undid this change, per WP:DEADREF. I also checked web.archive.org, which wasn't terribly helpful. (and, that IP is, uh, interesting. Do you know where those numbers even come from?) Cheers, tedder (talk) 04:44, 31 May 2009 (UTC) re: Connecticut CDPsI think ive got what your saying. But by "if the CDP and non-CDP distinction is locally significant in a state, then it might make sense to list them separately.", would that meen people in a community refer to their community as a CDP just like how people in Bridgeport, Connecticut for instance refer to their community as a City; or an unincorporated community such as Mysic, Connecticut is often distinguished by both residents and visitors as more of a town-like community apart form other unincorporated communities? Also, is what you are saying basically that only significant CDPs should be distinguished from other unincorporated communities, while other insignificant CDPs should just be listed as unincorporated communities?Kotosb (talk 22:59, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Q bridge delayWell, there's a shock. (rolls eyes) - Denimadept (talk) 17:46, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
List of populationSee User talk:McSly. Thank you. Umofomo —Preceding unsigned comment added by Umofomo (talk • contribs) 22:42, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
History complimentThanks for the compliment. I read the exchange on the Windham county page. It would take me several days (at least) to get up the point where you are today! Probably asking uninformed questions the whole while. Or, worse, making uninformed statements! I think I'll just let you solve it! :) Sounds like you're doing fine! Best of luck! Student7 (talk) 01:44, 4 June 2009 (UTC) I might not be American, but doesn't Connecticut come before Texas in the alphabet? Anyhow, if you think it's a good idea (and I don't disagree per se) to only bracket the state where there are not multiple schools in the state, you might want to change all the others as well, rather than just that one. Cheers, - Jarry1250 (t, c) 16:51, 4 June 2009 (UTC) Thank youThank you for adding much more information to the page I created, Downtown Rutland, Vermont you might have saved it from being deleted. Mr. Prez (talk) 19:49, 5 June 2009 (UTC) Rutland Downtown HDThanks for adding the links to the district at Rutland (city), Vermont. I saw others supporting a move to the official district name; what do you think? Nyttend (talk) 23:59, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
List of countries by population: HK/Macau + SpainHi. I saw your message on my talk page. I see you've accepted to have HK/Macau listed separately from China. I don't think it's a good idea. HK and Macau are clearly part of China, and only appear separately in some international statistics because of tradition and also because HK and Macau have separate statistical office (but then Scotland also has a separate statistical offices from England and Wales). There's also the fact, I believe, that HK and Macau are not within the custom jurisdiction of mainland China (they have their own separate custom duties), but then it's the same with the Canary Islands which are also not within the custom jurisdiction of mainland Spain, yet nobody lists them separately. For HK and Macau, if you look at it through and through, I think it is only because of historical reasons that they are still listed separately in some international statistics. Concerning Spain, I've corrected the population figure. Be warned that Spanish users have this bad habit of quoting the so-called "poblacion empadronada" figures, but these figures overestimate the Spanish population because they are based on the Spanish population registers (population registers exist in a number of European countries, such as Spain, Belgium, Germany, but are totally unheard of in Anglo-Saxon countries, in the francophone world, and in many other places). The problem with this is that when immigrants leave Spain (which happens a lot now with the economic crisis), they often do not bother to tell authorities, so they are still counted in the population registers even though they don't live in Spain anymore. So the population registers become more and more inaccurate the further you go from the census (last Spanish census was in 2001), but the figures from the population registers are still officially published due to legal requirements. To correct this situation, the Spanish statistical office is making estimates of the so-called "poblacion actual", i.e. the actual population living in Spain, removing immigrants who have left the country, and correcting other errors in the population registers. The "poblacion actual" is the figure that is used by Eurostat, the UN, and other international organizations. This is the figure I have just put in the list, but I'm quite sure that sooner or later some Spanish users will come back and revert to the "poblacion empadronada" since it is a higher number ('bigger is better' I suppose, lol). So watch that out. Der Statistiker (talk) 00:56, 10 June 2009 (UTC) ThanksHi Polaron. Thanks for helping to make my point at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Theba, Arizona, even if it appears that the point is lost. I do find it a little disturbing that people are happy to assume "it exists" = "it is notable". You did mention that there ought to be some kind of formal consensus to back up this notion that all "real places" are inherently notable. I know there are a couple of failed proposals in the past, but if you have any interest in giving it another shot, please let me know and I'd be happy to assist. Thanks again, Shereth 15:31, 11 June 2009 (UTC) Stradford Shoal Light moveI guess i noticed your recent edits due to my watchlisting one or more of the CT NRHP list-articles. Thanks for identifying a location problem and posting notice at wp:NRIS info issues. I asked a followup question there at wp:NRIS info issues, because I am not sure what else needs to be addressed in any report to the National Register or in any fixes to articles, regarding some description. Could you follow up there? Not sure if it is best to discuss there or at Talk:Stratford Shoal Light...maybe any conversation will get moved to that Talk page later. Thanks! doncram (talk) 02:33, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
CT NRHP errors and redirectsHi again. I appreciate that you are building the CT NRHP list-tables and identifying numerous NRIS errors in the process. This has happened in other states too, such as in Oregon where incorrect locations and even some omissions and erroneous inclusions were found by a big reconciliation between NRIS info vs. an Oregon state department's list (reconciliation still visible at Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Oregon). I appreciate that you've added items to the wp:NRIS info issues list for reporting to the National Register. This will help, hopefully, in our getting info corrected permanently in NRIS, and then reduce future confusion when editors find contradictory information and perhaps seek to undo corrections, pointing to the incorrect info in NRIS or in mirror sites like http://www.nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com. However, in some cases I am not sure of the changes i see you making in the town location field in CT NRHP list-articles. As you recall we had some previous disagreements over the actual locations of some historic districts involving Pomfret and Brooklyn and I am not sure where else, and/or we had some disagreements over whether NRHP places should be covered in separate articles or merged into town or CDP articles. I'm kind of afraid that there are further potential disagreements between us or others due to differences in perspective on what should be shown in NRHP lists and individual articles. In the situations where there is an outright NRIS typo error as for the Stratford Shoal Lighthouse, there can be no lasting disagreement, but there is more to implement into the NRHP article and the list-articles in those cases. And also there are other more subjective decisions where I think departures from the NRHP information should be by consensus. I wonder if we could work together carefully somehow, perhaps keeping one central list of CT location issues and redirect/merger issues to be tracked and discussed to consensus, perhaps at Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Connecticut. For example, right now, among recent NRIS info issues you posted is one item, Stafford Hollow Historic District, apparently with an incorrect county identified in NRIS per your report. That name turns out to be a redirect to a town article that does not cover the NRHP place. I haven't looked at the edit history but I am assuming it is another case where you set up a redirect and where you, at least in the past, wanted for the NRHP to be covered in the town article. Since the location of the place can be in some doubt due to the contradictory sources, and for other reasons, I would prefer to create a separate stub article for the place and cover the NRIS county location in the article (e.g. by clearly stating there what county it is in), and covering the fact of an NRIS error perhaps in a footnote in the article and/or in the article's Talk page. Would you object to that? (In which case I think this item should go into a central list to be discussed with others.) And could you comment on this idea for a general approach? doncram (talk) 18:46, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
WP:NHRP disambiguationAt WT:NRHP, you say "Why not just attach (street, city, state) to all titles and then you don't have to worry about anything forever?" Quite annoyingly, this isn't always the case — Detroit has two St. Joseph's Episcopal Churches on Woodward Avenue, within three miles of each other. I get your point, however :-) Nyttend (talk) 03:47, 13 June 2009 (UTC) edit warringI posted a request for administrator intervention regarding your recent edits at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. doncram (talk) 01:31, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
WP:NYSR inactivity checkHello, Polaron. You are receiving this message because you are listed on the participant list of WP:NYSR. I am conducting an inactivity check on behalf of the project to see if the project still has an active editor base. The status column on the participant list will be cleared today, and to remain a listed member of the project, you must update your status on the participant list (preferably using the terms "Active", "Semi-active", or "Inactive") which is located here. Those who do not update their status after one week (by the night of June 25) and those who put inactive as their status will be removed from the list. If you have any questions, please leave a message on my talk page or at the "A smorgasbord of topics" section on WT:NYSR. Thank you for your understanding and your time. – TMF 12:30, 18 June 2009 (UTC) Farmington CanalMy apologies for my confusion — for some reason I was thinking that the NRIS-provided address included Hartford. Perhaps I wasn't paying attention and thinking that, as it said "New Haven in New Haven County", it also was saying "Hartford in Hartford County"? I was sleepy yesterday evening...perhaps I should have waited until this morning to do editing. Nyttend (talk) 12:20, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
İstanbulDo NOT!!! replace İstanbul's place.The official sourches included from 2008 Adress based cencus... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.213.89.80 (talk) 17:18, 21 June 2009 (UTC) can u remedy random deletion error on your part?Hi, I am dumbfounded with some of your edits. I spelled out one here: Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Connecticut#Random deletion of Marion HD from New Haven County list. I hope I am not being too harsh, but I cannot fathom what you are thinking, randomly deleting an NRHP listing that spans borders. Could you comment there, please, and I hope you would offer to fix the error by restoring the row to the New Haven County NRHP list-article. It will require renumbering there and mention in duplications in the CT-wide tally article. Also, can you identify any other deletions you made for other border cases where a property or district spanned jurisdictions? doncram (talk) 10:11, 23 June 2009 (UTC) MarionStop redirecting this article against the source — contrary to your claim, the USGS does recognise communities that span county lines. For an extreme example, see Freedom, Idaho and Wyoming and its USGS cite. If you continue making claims that run against published, reliable sources, it will be considered vandalism. Nyttend (talk) 14:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC) Marion, Connecticut edit war
 {{unblock|Your reason here}} below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 15:19, 23 June 2009 (UTC) Polaron (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: I apologize for getting carried away. I did stop reverting after Orlady's warning and do not intend to restore the redirect for that particular article. Also, is there a good reason why Nyttend is not being treated the same way as I am? Decline reason: Nyttend is blocked, not that it's relevant to your case. Are you willing to work to discuss this matter with Nyttend and others in addition to stopping editing for the time being? Hersfold (t/a/c) 21:06, 23 June 2009 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Self-review of my administrative actionsIn my subsequent review of the block, the events had technically simmered down (there was more than one article in which the two of you were edit-warring) and could have been resolved without a block. In no way was it meant to be punitive. It had been my understanding that anyone violating 3RR should be blocked immediately no matter what. However, since being given "the tools," I haven't really come across too many 3RRs, so if I misunderstood the policies and practices, or was otherwise misinformed at that time, I am now more aware of the language used in the current policy. Most 3RRs are caught by admins already watching the articles, or otherwise sitting on the edges of their seats, waiting to pounce. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 16:47, 24 June 2009 (UTC) NRHP coordinates correctionsThanks for adding a CT NRHP coordinates correction note to wp:NRIS info issues. Please see my followup there, at Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/NRIS information issues#Connecticut coordinates: basicly i think you don't need to go out of your way to report coordinates-only issues, although at first we had collected such info. Thanks! doncram (talk) 06:48, 24 June 2009 (UTC) Rock Art in the Southern Black Hills TRThanks so much for the link — how did you find it? I had been going through the links somewhat randomly (looking at one of every ten files) but hadn't found it. Nyttend (talk) 03:08, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Shield size confusionOn Rocky Hill - Glastonbury Ferry, you changed a 3-digit shield to 20px. Aren't you the one who told me that that gets 25px? - Denimadept (talk) 03:54, 25 June 2009 (UTC) Thanks for editThanks for moving the Stafford Hollow discussion out of the "hidden" section of the talk page. I tried to move it right after I posted, but I got an edit conflict and discovered you had gotten there first! Thanks. --Orlady (talk) 15:58, 25 June 2009 (UTC) unsourced material in NRHP HD articlesI will remove unsourced material, from Brookfield Center Historic District now, which you added. Why are you adding unsourced material to the CT NHRP HD articles? If you have a source, add it up front. If you don't, don't add. You are, in my view, causing and extending conflict. doncram (talk) 16:28, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
If you're not going to allow people to develop these articles like you said, I think it would be better to redirect them to the town article. Unless you have good reason to believe the material is false, then please let people more familiar with the place develop the article. --Polaron | Talk 18:08, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
List of most populous cities in IndiaHello friend, I want to ask about your change in the article "List of most populous cities in India". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_populous_cities_in_India You reverted my changes for the city 'Kanpur' and added this comment "not the same as the municipal corporation". Could you explain your comment and where I got wrong? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wecaz (talk • contribs) 15:12, 4 July 2009 (UTC) Articles for deletion nomination of South Woodstock, Vermont I have nominated South Woodstock, Vermont, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/South Woodstock, Vermont. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. doncram (talk) 16:25, 4 July 2009 (UTC) Hartford Village Historic DistrictWhere is the discussion being held? My only experience has been with the Brownington Village Historic District. Unincorporated villages have amorphous boundaries in Vermont and Brownington "village" can be perceived as going beyond the historic district. So separating them seems reasonable. I realize that currently the Hartford village article seems a little bereft. But that could change with an additional of history, notables, roads, and other details that may be irrelevant to the Historic District.Student7 (talk) 14:08, 5 July 2009 (UTC) edit warringYour edits today, in my view, are generally destructive of wikipedia development. It is disruptive of you to edit war to force mergers where there is no consensus, and in fact the assertion that some village is the same as HD is unsourced and probably false. I may not watch your every edit for awhile now, because this is both a bit aggravating and tedious. Just please stop. Or, I sincerely hope some administrator will notice and block you for disruption. You have previously stated "it takes two to edit war", but I don't think it is disruptive of wikipedia to remove false and/or unsourced assertions, which is the thrust of my edits today reverting many of your own. doncram (talk) 21:42, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
RI villagesYou asked at my Talk page, and I am moving discussion here to keep together/near similar discussion: Hi. What's the deal with Wyoming? Rhode Island has a good number of these merged village/historic district articles from early on. Why is this particular case different? --Polaron | Talk 01:34, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to make a slight change of direction in this conversation, mostly to register (for you and anyone else who is reading) the thinking behind some of my recent edits to village and HD articles in New England. Based in large part on insights I gained during long experience wrestling with the issue of "what is a locality?" at the Open Directory Project, and further informed by insights gained in fooling around with articles like the ones for Southport and Stafford Hollow, CT, I believe that the majority of named villages in New England should be the topics of Wikipedia articles, separate from the legal towns of which they are a part. This is particularly true if the village is treated as a CDP by the Census Bureau or has a post office that the USPS treats as if it were a legal place name. A Wikipedia user looking for information about Wyoming, Rhode Island or Marion, Connecticut (both of which have post offices) is going to be more confused than satisfied by finding an article about Richmond, RI, or Southington, CT. Similarly, the user who is seeking information about a named village is likely to be frustrated to find an article about a National Register historic district instead of an article about the named village. Accordingly, I don't think that pages like Wyoming, Rhode Island and Marion, Connecticut should exist as redirects to either town articles or HD articles. (However, I don't see a clear rule on how to deal with situations where the village is a town center that has the same name as the town -- or a close variant. There might be good reasons for Stafford Springs, CT, to be handled differently from Hartford village, VT, for example. That's a discussion for some other time...) Much of the recent discussion is about the many rural New England villages that have received National Register designation as historic districts. Considering that (1) there are no formal boundaries for these villages and (2) the local volunteers who submitted the National Register documentation were generally interested in gaining recognition and preservation for the village as a whole, the village and the HD should be treated as if they are one and the same unless there is evidence to the contrary. There is no reason for articles to quibble about the difference between "XYZ" (a village) and the "XYZ Village historic district", and it is very sensible for the village and the HD to be covered in a single article. Because these villages have existed as such for at least a century and the HD is a recent invention, the "combined" article should carry the name of the village but should prominently mention the name of the HD (because that article name redirects to the village article). Since the HD has defined metes and bounds, but the village has no fixed definition, the HD's metes and bounds should be mentioned in the article (if known) without any speculative blather to the effect that the boundaries of the village might be different. (If the village is a CDP, then the location and area of the CDP also need to be described.) Every now and then there might be a reason to describe other divergent points of view regarding the definition of "XYZ village" (for example, if there's a documented dispute between the volunteer fire department and the village historical society), but those instances should be rare. G'night. --Orlady (talk) 03:21, 6 July 2009 (UTC) I'm trying to set this guy straight. Help? - Denimadept (talk) 12:18, 6 July 2009 (UTC) I've fixed the remaining ones. Thanks for your help. Meanwhile, he blanked "his" user talk page, and I've restored it. Last night, he seems to have made changes to a large number of California(?) politicians. I've left those alone, since they may be valid. Still, this person really should get their own username. <sigh> - Denimadept (talk) 14:17, 7 July 2009 (UTC) followupPolaron, thanks I appreciate, and responded to, your reasonable proposal within User talk:doncram#Hope Valley. doncram (talk) 07:42, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Finally replying to you...Sorry for the delay in replying to you; as you may have noticed, I was on vacation over the holiday weekend: therefore I've been online only here-and-there, often doing things unrelated to all of this, and earlier today I had several days' worth of watchlist to work through. As far as Rhode Island — if you pay attention to my editing patterns, you'll see that I watch Vermont community articles but not those of any other New England states. Consequently, I was altogether unaware of the situation that you mention. Moreover, as far as I remember, aren't all the ones in question recently created, either by you or by someone else? I pay attention primarily to the lists and to articles on specific properties that I have written or that would be of interest to me even if I'd never heard of the NRHP. Since I've never written much about New England listings, and since the only New England content about which I really care are county templates and Vermont community articles, I really don't have much awareness of New England NRHP articles and redirects in general. Nyttend (talk) 01:07, 9 July 2009 (UTC) Wilder, VermontSince you've been editing Wilder, Vermont and the associated HD in the last few days, would you offer an opinion on my proposed merger? Nyttend (talk) 13:06, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Opinion requestedTalk:San Francisco – Oakland Bay Bridge#Too many maps? - Denimadept (talk) 04:29, 17 July 2009 (UTC) Historic districts in CT are not all NRHPs, so...Historic districts in CT are not all NRHPs, so don't delete the NRHP category in NRHP HD articles when you add the additional Category:Historic districts in Connecticut, as you did in this edit. That edit removed the NRHP HD article from the NRHP category system. Hmm, i just checked and noticed that you had originally put the entire Category:Historic districts in Connecticut into a parent NRHP category, and that i removed it, and that Orlady restored it. I removed it again. You have to allow for non-NRHP HDs, for example locally or state-declared ones that get rejected or otherwise don't make it all the way at the national level. I'll call Orlady's attention to this thread here, too. doncram (talk) 04:25, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
--Orlady (talk) 04:44, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Interesting articles relating to NY 218Hey. Since I haven't been able to catch you on IRC as of late, I figured I'd post this here. I did a Google News search about the "Storm King Bypass" (modern US 9W) in an attempt to find some solid history for NY 218 and came up with these. There's a lot of off-beat stuff there (as you'd expect by searching for just "9w"), but a good deal of it relates to the bypass, numbers 2, 6, and 7 to name a few. – TMF 08:51, 18 July 2009 (UTC) edit war noticeboard reportI've opened a report about your edit warring on NRHP HD articles, specifically including the Wyoming and Peace Dale ones, at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. doncram (talk) 04:01, 20 July 2009 (UTC) revertsYesterday when i connected back in I saw at first just a few deletions/redirects on my watchlist, which i automatically started to restore the NRHP HD articles (i think without changing the corresponding settlement articles at all). Then I looked further and saw a lot more, maybe 20 had been deleted/redirected. I stopped. Sorry for any further misunderstanding. If you want, go ahead and re-redirect those ones that i changed then. I don't want for there to be any more edit warring, so for the moment I would not re-re-re-re-create those articles myself, but I don't get how discussion about merging vs. splitting in individual cases can proceed, if the NRHP HD version is not allowed to exist. Do you mean for a "split" discussion to happen, when only the merger proponent side is allowed to develop its preferred alternative, and the split proponent side is not allowed to develop a NRHP HD article and show what that could look like? It does not seem logical to me, to handicap one side of a discussion that way. I don't want to freeze the development of settlement articles, either, but if the NRHP HD cannot be developed it would seem "fair" to prevent further development of the settlement article also. I do not advocate freezing out other editors from making contributions, by freezing the pages (and I do not expect that administrators would agree to protect the pages from editing, either). I suppose the NRHP HD article could be developed in a sandbox. But, since there is edit history in each of the NRHP HD named articles/redirects, I wouldn't want to create a different sandbox. I really, really do not understand an obsession with insisting that a redirect must be in place, rather than two articles with merger proposal tags on both of them, until a new process to review and settle each case can proceed. I guess this point of process could be an early point of discussion for some other party to comment upon within a new process. I can't do much if anything today, by the way. doncram (talk) 15:38, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com acreage is off by a factor of 10I did some research on the acreage listings in the National Register database, both in the main table (which I use for the infobox generator and which nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com uses for its output) and in the spatial database. It turns out that the acreage listed at nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com is off by a factor of 10, because they didn't realize the acreage in one of the tables should have had a decimal point in there. I can add the acreage to the infobox generator if it would be worthwhile. I mentioned this discrepancy at WT:NRHP already, but I'm going to copy it to a few of the talk pages of editors who have been dealing with this problem lately. (In other words, sorry for the spam.) --Elkman (Elkspeak) 21:36, 22 July 2009 (UTC) Rockhill (Furnace), PennsylvaniaLate last year, you moved Rockhill, Pennsylvania to Rockhill Furnace, Pennsylvania with the edit summary of 'use correct name'. I didn't notice this until just now, when someone moved it back with the summary of 'The correct name for this town is "Rockhill Furnace", not "Rockhill" or "Rock Hill" or "Rock Hill Furnace". References to the contrary are incorrect'. Curious, what was your source for Furnace not being part of the name? Nyttend (talk) 19:25, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
DoverIn what town or city is Dover? Please create Dover, Connecticut as a redirect to the correct municipality; I need the link at Defunct townships of Cuyahoga County, Ohio. Nyttend (talk) 12:51, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Litchfield CountyFYI i opened a RFD on Litchfield County, Connecticut redirects. It's not complete just yet, will finish it today or tomorrow. Please do add your comments, hopefully agreeing with all there. I am trying to keep it to non-controversial ones. I added a couple not-as-clear items to a new Litchefield section at Talk:List of RHPs in CT. Also, FYI, i revised some other Litchfield NRHP HD articles and put up a requested move proposal for Milton (Litchfield). Feel free to browse my recent contributions. Hope you are well and have been having a good summer. doncram (talk) 21:10, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
otherI wonder if we could proceed now with settling the NRHP HD open questions in one county, with expectation to discuss then to defer to a third party's decision. I suggest doing New London County, which has the virtue of having relatively little past discussion, and scanning through it doesn't look very thorny. A third party administrator there could directly perform any agreed-upon deletions of redirects, too, avoiding need to do a batch of redirects at RFD. Would that be okay? I'll suggest it also here. doncram (talk) 09:22, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
I award you the Special Barnstar
Articles for deletion nomination of Connecticut Route 140I have nominated Connecticut Route 140, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Connecticut Route 140. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Colonel Warden (talk) 19:42, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Historic Districts vs. localesI've left a note at User talk:Orlady#Historic Districts vs. locales concerning the merger of historic districts and locales; your comments concerning Doncram's proposal are welcome. See also my talk page. Acroterion (talk) 21:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
NRIS downloadDo I understand rightly that you've downloaded the NRIS database in .dbf format? If so, what type of program did you use to open the .dbf? I'd quite like to have access to that information, but I don't know if I have the software to run a .dbf file. Nyttend (talk) 20:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
You're invited...
In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, review the recent Wiki-Conference New York, plan for the next stages of projects like Wikipedia Takes Manhattan and Wikipedia at the Library, and hold salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects (see the May meeting's minutes). In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and generally enjoy ourselves and kick back. You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list. To keep up-to-date on local events, you can also join our mailing list. New article. Suggestions? - Denimadept (talk) 02:57, 14 September 2009 (UTC) 3RRStop with the reverts, neither of you are helping matters. You're at 3RR. Acroterion (talk) 22:14, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
3RR, protected. Acroterion (talk) 21:07, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
undosHi, could you please revert yourself on the several CT, VT, or RI merger/split cases where you recently changed from the status quo. I had the impression you were enforcing a certain kind of ceasefire, and judging that I had violated the ceasefire at Noank and Poquetanuck so you were punishing me elsewhere. But you are several cases ahead now by your own system, given that A froze articles and i stopped reverting you. Also, since Noank seems to be resolved, where you took offense previously, can you ratchet back by one or further. doncram (talk) 19:11, 24 September 2009 (UTC) NowCommons: File:SF CSA.jpgFile:SF CSA.jpg is now available on Wikimedia Commons as Commons:File:SF CSA.jpg. This is a repository of free media that can be used on all Wikimedia wikis. The image will be deleted from Wikipedia, but this doesn't mean it can't be used anymore. You can embed an image uploaded to Commons like you would an image uploaded to Wikipedia, in this case: [[File:SF CSA.jpg]]. Note that this is an automated message to inform you about the move. This bot did not copy the image itself. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 08:39, 26 September 2009 (UTC) Population of SamoaHey Polaron, talofa lava as they say... Thanks for reverting the changes to Samoa's population, done by my nine-year-old son, (using my login!) I have explained to him why his precise adjustment to an estimated figure is inappropriate. I like the term "false precision" that you used. Keep up the good work. Nankai (talk) 20:21, 1 October 2009 (UTC) redirectsPolaron, I notice now you have created a bunch of redirects to NRHP HDs in Massachusetts. Could you please stop and discuss. I would like to have a discussion with you and get some input from others you might listen to. I think that these redirects violate Wikipedia policy and are not helpful. You might think that i am pro-NRHP articles, but I am not particularly that. I am for following wikipedia policies and I don't believe these redirects or redirects going the other way are appropriate. Perhaps we could start by looking at what redirect and disambiguation policies state, perhaps wp:redirect. One basic matter is that redirects should not be surprising to readers. doncram (talk) 17:11, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
North TivertonIs North Tiverton essentially equivalent to the Tiverton CDP? Nyttend (talk) 20:29, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Discuss it at Talk:Administrative_divisions_of_New_York#Home_rule, please. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 20:38, 4 October 2009 (UTC) Wikis Take Manhattan
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WINNINGS? The first prize winning team members will get Eye-Fi Share cards, which automatically upload photos from your camera to your computer and to sites like Flickr. And there will also be cool prizes for other top scorers. WHEN The hunt will take place Saturday, October 10th from 1:00pm to 6:30pm, followed by prizes and celebration. WHO All Wikipedians and non-Wikipedians are invited to participate in team of up to three (no special knowledge is required at all, just a digital camera and a love of the city). Bring a friend (or two)! REGISTER The proper place to register your team is here. It's also perfectly possible to register on the day of when you get there, but it will be slightly easier for us if you register beforehand. WHERE Participants can begin the hunt from either of two locations: one at Columbia University (at the sundial on college walk) and one at The Open Planning Project's fantastic new event space nestled between Chinatown and SoHo. Everyone will end at The Open Planning Project:
FOR UPDATES Please watchlist Wikipedia:Wikipedia Takes Manhattan. This will have a posting if the event is delayed due to weather or other exigency. Thanks, You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list. Winter IslandPlease take a look at my comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places#Winter Island Historic District and Archeological District -- raises a general procedural question Thanks, . . . . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk • contribs) 12:16, 5 October 2009 (UTC) PequotWould you mind leaving the reservation redirect alone for now? You and Doncram are at 3RR, and I strongly suggest that it be left as it is for now, regardless of the merits of any arguments. A slow revert war won't be a good idea either. Acroterion (talk) 20:36, 5 October 2009 (UTC) rvI reverted your redirect. La Grange, Tennessee is not La Grange, North Carolina. APK say that you love me 01:43, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
3RRYou probably figured this out already, but:
Actually, I counted five reverts between you and Doncram at San Ignacio, Texas (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). You and Doncram have been going up to the 3 revert rule on other articles, but you lost count at San Ignacio. I've reported you to WP:AN3. --Elkman (Elkspeak) 05:20, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Manokin Historic DistrictHi Polaron: I think what you did with the Manokin Historic District and Manokin, Maryland issue was very elegantly handled. Thank you for taking care of that!--Pubdog (talk) 10:23, 8 October 2009 (UTC) Silver City HDWhy don't you add sources here when you claim to have them? Of course you're correct that it's the NRIS (I've added the source); but you could have avoided the revert war if you'd simply added the NRIS link that comes with the Elkman generator. Nyttend (talk) 12:06, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
. That's a reference named "mergersupport" which is based on the generic nris reference but with the specific text string reported in the "work=" field. The formatting of this reference could/should be improved, but it includes the text string and that it is from NRIS and that the NRIS version date is the 3/13/2009 NRIS download version that Elknan uses (and which I presume is the version Polaron has also downloaded). doncram (talk) 16:05, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Hungry MotherCould you hold off with the redirects and such while we're trying to sort things out? I'm trying to be equitable here, and there are a few issues of basic policy concerning redirects that I'd like to research before plunging in. This process is dependent on the restraint of all parties, to a degree that might be painful. By the way, I'm familiar with Hungry Mother State Park - a lovely place. Also, as the nom is available, a referenced discussion of the NRHP district would be valuable. Thanks, Acroterion (talk) 00:20, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
If you have a source which could be used to support an assertion, but there's any issue in how to form a footnote reference for it, you could follow examples in other articles. About the park, if it is in VA then possibly more than one NRHP documents and also an NRHP photo or two may be available at the VA website for the county, via Virginia dept of history index. I just added 2 NRHP documents for a different VA NRHP, showing as references 3 and 5 in this version of Oak Hill NHL. In the external links section is a link to the one VA dept of history photo available for it. Other editors might do it somewhat differently, but this has the key fields filled out. You need to know to search for the author and date which are given in Section 11 of these documents, often several pages in. I hope this could possibly be helpful. doncram (talk) 06:27, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
Kelleys IslandMy apology; I wasn't aware of the boundary increase, since it wasn't on the Erie County list that I checked. Not sure about you, but it seems absurd to me to restrict the location of a district that covers essentially the entire island. I still ask, however: why don't you add a source when you make a claim like this? Nyttend (talk) 01:57, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Redirect is done Einbierbitte (talk) 17:17, 10 October 2009 (UTC) ColtsvilleHi. In reply to your post on my talk page: It is my understanding that Coltsville (the historic district recently listed as a national historic landmark) includes Armsmear and the Colt Armory, as well as other properties in the vicinity. It's probably not totally identical to the Colt Industrial District previously listed on the National Register, but if it's not the same, I assume that the differences are inconsequential. I figure that an article should be written about the Coltsville district, linking to the detailed articles about the armory and Armsmear as the main features of the district, and Colt Industrial District should become a redirect to Coltsville. However, I haven't taken the time to read the voluminous online material about the historic district(s), and at the present time I'm not particularly motivated to sort the matter out. In particular, I don't have the stomach for yet another set of hair-splitting discussions about the details of the historic district boundaries listed on different NRHP nom forms, and I think that readers will find their way to the substantive information about the Colt properties without creating new redirects. Readers who look for the area on the various NRHP lists or who search on "Coltsville" or "Coltsville Historic District" should be able to find their way to the Armsmear and Colt Armory articles, which are good and provide much of the important substance. The NRHP listkeepers have not added Coltsville to List of National Historic Landmarks in Connecticut or National Register of Historic Places listings in Hartford, Connecticut (I don't know why not), and the "Colt Industrial District" entry on the city list currently refers readers to both the Armsmear and Colt Armory articles. Sorry. Even though I think the Colt story is a very interesting one, I don't see this as a good time to get involved with it. --Orlady (talk) 03:49, 11 October 2009 (UTC) ListCould you update User talk:Acroterion/NRHP HD issues list with any articles that you'd like to see addressed? Acroterion (talk) 13:34, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Druid Hills unsourced assertionThe article Druid Hills Historic District just popped up on my watchlist. In two edits you revise the article to make a possibly true, but unsourced, assertion. I will revert the edits. If you have a source, please do add a sourced assertion. If an NRIS field is your source, please consider suggestions regarding Silver City Historic District NRIS reference in a discussion section above. doncram (talk) 18:47, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
First, thank you for the courteous note. However, on one hand the historic district does not encompass the entire community, only the half that is north of State Route 21 is included in the HD. The HD primarily contains the old commercial district from the late 1800s to early 1900s, three churches, and a few residences and service buildings. So I would guess that the HD does encompass the heart of old Furman but not the entire area. This is speculation however since Furman went from an actual town to a rural unincorporated community in the early-to-mid-20th century. Finding sources has been extremely difficult, although a book, Palmer's A history of Furman, Snow Hill, and Ackerville (1977) has been written about the community. It is very difficult to find one of the limited editions of it but I will look a little harder.
Talkback Message added 18:44, 13 October 2009 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Baileypalblue (talk) 18:44, 13 October 2009 (UTC) World Metropolitan AreasThe US Census Bureau ranks metropolitan areas by their MSA not their combined region/area so the Los Angeles Metropolitan Area would be more suitible because thats in fact the metro that its talking about/refering to. The popultaion also seems to match (be closer to) the MSA rather than the CMA. The San Bernardino-Riverside Metropolitan Area is independent from Los Angeles so it would not make sense to use the Grater LA article when it's only refering to the LA Metropolitan atricle. What you are doing is mainly giving credit to the wrong place. Its like if Los Angeles is givin credit for be the metropolitan area of southern california or the main city when it is composed of 4 metropolitan areas, 3 of which are major US metro's and in the top 20. I reverted you, but feel free to revert me if you find a better source or explaination, I just want to let you know I'm not trying to cause an edit war or problems. Thank-You! -House1090 (talk) 03:25, 14 October 2009 (UTC) "missing" in NRHP listsI'm confused: do you mean that the NRIS lists these parkways in these municipalities and that we've somehow left them out, or that the parkways actually go there but the NRIS doesn't realise that? Nyttend (talk) 15:44, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Talk:Historic district (United States)/GA1I have left comments at Talk:Historic district (United States)/GA1.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 01:55, 20 October 2009 (UTC) Why not cite information?Why add information at the talk page for Wood(s) Heights but not on the article? I'm tired of having to do your work for you. Nyttend (talk) 13:06, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Ernest BorgnineThanks for fixing the errors in his high school history. I didn't think Wilbur Cross H.S. was right, but it didn't dawn on me that this is because the school wasn't built until the 1950s (and before that, Hillhouse, which lacks an article, was the city's high school). The Wilbur Cross article doesn't say when it opened, though -- do you happen to have a source for that? --Orlady (talk) 17:54, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Naming conventions for US placesHi. I'd like to make sure that you are aware of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names)#United States. According to that convention, most U.S. cities, towns, and villages should be named in the form "City, State", even if there is believed to be only one place in the world with the particular placename. I renamed Poquonock Bridge accordingly. I would rename Poquetanuck, but everything about that article is toxic right now. PS - Do you really believe that sentences that say "The village and the historic district are essentially the same.[citation needed]" make sense in the context of articles, or are you tolerating them in order to avoid triggering retaliation? --Orlady (talk) 18:05, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Oh, my, i just ran into Template talk:Did you know#Hallville Mill Historic District, in which O, P, me are credited for a DYK! Well, that sounds positive. I would like to cooperate in developing/improving these articles. doncram (talk) 23:42, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Hallville Mill Historic District
SoWhy 01:57, 2 November 2009 (UTC) You're invited!
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To keep up-to-date on local events, you can also join our mailing list. Downtown NorwichHi. I see that after the redirect was deleted, you re-created Downtown Norwich as a disambiguation page. I don't believe that the page has value. The chance that someone would seek an article about "Downtown Norwich" without finding their way to Norwich (disambiguation) or Downtown Norwich Historic District is vanishingly small. This article gets in the way of prospective users by placing an extra step between them and the content they seek. To avoid yet another contentious (but fundamentally pointless) discussion, would you please consider flagging it with {{db-author}}? --Orlady (talk) 03:49, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Punctuation questionJust curious — until I looked at this edit, I'd never seen punctuation at the end of an automated edit summary. Do you choose the way that edit summaries are formatted, or does Twinkle do it automatically? I've never used tools such as AWB or Twinkle. Nyttend (talk) 01:22, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Wallingford dab pageOK, I have moved the dab page. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:37, 12 November 2009 (UTC) NotePlease don't rollback non-vandalism edits (such as this: [40]) without leaving an edit summary or a note on the talk page. henrik•talk 19:44, 19 November 2009 (UTC) Islandia?How do you know that Islandia is no longer incorporated? You do not cite any source of information. Inkan1969 (talk) 20:55, 2 December 2009 (UTC) MfD nomination of Downtown NorwichDowntown Norwich, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Downtown Norwich and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Downtown Norwich during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Cnilep (talk) 03:02, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
RFC at my talk pageIn an effort to create a navbox for urban parkways in the Boston metro area, I have come to the realization that what is really needed is something that ties together the entire system first envisioned by Charles Eliot in the late nineteenth century. I feel that this should be a cooperative effort, probably created as a subproject of WP:MASS. However, initially I am seeking comments and/or assistance from several editors that have contributed in various ways to elements of the scope of such a project. This note is being posted to the user pages of Beland, CaribDigita, Denimadept, EraserGirl, Grk1011, Hertz1888, Jameslwoodward, Markles, NE2, Polaron and Swampyank. I apologize in advance to anyone who wishes to comment that I have left off of the list of users, as I may have unintentionally forgotten them and others. Please feel free to comment on my talk page under the heading I have created, linked here. Thanks – Sswonk (talk) 05:56, 8 December 2009 (UTC) New Haven Line articleHi. Any reference to Springfield Terminal in the New Haven Line article is a reference to the PAR subsidiary. Any separate article about it would have to be about it before the company became a Guilford/Pan Am subsidiary (as the corresponding Boston and Maine Railroad and Maine Central Railroad articles are]]. As such, the separate article would never be an appropriate link for the New Haven Line article, as the independent company never operated over the NHL. Also, I believe that there's no real reason in an article about the commuter line to go into any detail over the way that PAR structures their subsidiaries, which is what mentioning ST instead of PAR does, in my opinion.oknazevad (talk) 18:08, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Falls Village docHi, i noticed you added a NRHP document reference to the Falls Village, Connecticut article ( David F. Ransom, National Register of Historic Places nomination: Falls Village District, (October 6, 1978) ). I wonder if you obtained an electronic version of the document from the National Register. Could you possibly please email me a copy? Thanks, doncram (talk) 01:38, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Template:Coos County, New HampshireThanks for catching the article name move. Although I commonly use the umlaut in cases like this, I was quite surprised that this is a common enough usage for this county that the county website uses it. Nyttend (talk) 03:00, 12 December 2009 (UTC) 28ABefore we go into a full out edit war and break 3RR, would you be willing to discuss the existence of this article? I support the existence of this article because every road with that level of notability. There are multiple articles out there on the Route #A version of the road. It doens't hurt to have the page as it helps to expand knowledge of the area. To those on the Cape, it helps to show the history of the road as well as explain knowledge about it. I disagree with your claim that the Route 28 article covers it as the 28 blurb is a lot less than is in the article. Because of the fact that every road on that level should have an article, it seems meaningless to have this one as a redirect. I'm going to leave things as is until we reach a consensus, but I think a merge template would be the way to go with this so that we can get the input of others in the community as they will help to keep this from being a dispute between two people. I look forward for your input, and I would like to keep this from becomming a full-out war. Thanks for your time. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:55, 21 December 2009 (UTC) Census designated placesI see you are now going into multiple states and adding a village category to census-designated place articles that say nothing about their being a village or neighborhood or whatever. Villages are not synonymous with CDPs and neither are neighborhoods. CDPs are set up the census bureau for its own administrative purposes and may overlap any local geographic area where people live. The articles that only say the place is a CDP means that the place is a census CDP and nothing more. Please cite your sources/arguments for such changes in general and each change in particular. I see nothing in Census-designated place that can justify such editing. If no citable justification can be provided, then your edits are simply your WP:OR being added to WP, and cannot stand. Hmains (talk) 02:44, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
3RR edit warring, actually 4RRI requested administrative intervention to stop your edit warring, at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. You may wish to comment there. doncram (talk) 22:09, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
It appears that both you and Doncram should be blockedA quick look at WP:AN3#User:Polaron reported by doncram (talk) (Result: ) indicates that both you and Doncram have gone past 3RR at Preston City Historic District. Please explain why the admins should not block both of you for 24 hours. Previous discussions, however sincere, do not give either of you a license to break 3RR. EdJohnston (talk) 03:07, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
NPS FocusI don't know if you heard, but all NRHP noms for CT NRHP properties appear to be available on NPS Focus, along with NC, AK, ND and the previously-available HI, NV, UT, WY, KY, DC and DE and the state sources for places like VA and WV. There may be some NY docs listed as well. I haven't thoroughly tested all cases. Acroterion (talk) 21:42, 30 December 2009 (UTC) Redirecting NRHP HD articlesHey, my watchlist is lighting up with new edits by you that are redirecting NRHP HD articles to village/hamlet/neighborhood articles. What's going on? I'm not seeing discussion or notices or consensus or anything. If you're taking any old, previous opinion as meeting the term of your editing restriction, I don't think that is right. The situation is different now that NRHP docs are easily available for most or all of these. Recent edits: # Simsbury Center (CDP), Connecticut (+cat) (top) [rollback] # 12:29, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Hazardville, Connecticut (+cat) (top) [rollback] # 12:25, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Broad Brook (+cat) (top) [rollback] # 12:18, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Simsbury Center, Connecticut (←Redirected page to Simsbury Center (CDP), Connecticut) (top) [rollback] # 12:17, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Simsbury Center (←Redirected page to Simsbury Center (CDP), Connecticut) (top) [rollback] # 12:16, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Simsbury Center Historic District (←Redirected page to Simsbury Center (CDP), Connecticut) (top) [rollback] # 12:14, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Plantsville (templates) (top) [rollback] # 12:14, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Plantsville Historic District (←Redirected page to Plantsville) (top) [rollback] # 12:13, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Plantsville (merge) # 12:00, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Table of United States primary census statistical areas (Reverted to revision 330331883 by Buaidh. (TW)) (top) [rollback] # 11:59, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) List of countries by population (undo CIA figure) # 11:46, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) N Marion (Southington) (←Redirected page to Marion, Connecticut) (top) # 11:45, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Marion, Connecticut (nav template) (top) [rollback] # 11:44, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Marion, Connecticut (→Rochambeau visit) # 11:44, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Marion, Connecticut (cats) # 11:43, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Marion Historic District (Cheshire and Southington, Connecticut) (←Redirected page to Marion, Connecticut) (top) [rollback] # 11:42, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Marion, Connecticut (merge) # 11:27, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) N Taftville Historic District (←Redirected page to Taftville, Connecticut) (top) # 11:26, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) N Taftville/Ponemah Mill National Register Historic District (←Redirected page to Taftville, Connecticut) (top) # 11:25, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Quaker Hill Historic District (Waterford, Connecticut) (←Redirected page to Quaker Hill, Connecticut) (top) [rollback] # 11:24, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Quaker Hill, Connecticut (merge) (top) [rollback] # 11:16, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Round Hill, Connecticut (←Redirected page to Round Hill (Greenwich)) (top) [rollback] # 11:15, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Long Ridge, Connecticut (←Redirected page to Long Ridge Village Historic District) (top) [rollback] # 11:14, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Huntington Center, Connecticut (←Redirected page to Huntington Center (Shelton)) (top) [rollback] # 11:14, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) N Huntington Center, Connecticut (←Redirected page to Huntington center (Shelton)) # 11:13, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) N Greenfield Hill, Connecticut (←Redirected page to Greenfield Hill) (top) # 11:12, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Georgetown Historic District (Georgetown, Connecticut) (←Redirected page to Georgetown, Connecticut) (top) [rollback] # 11:12, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Georgetown, Connecticut (→External links) (top) [rollback] # 11:11, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Georgetown, Connecticut (→History) # 11:04, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Rockville Historic District (Vernon, Connecticut) (←Redirected page to Rockville (Vernon)) (top) [rollback] # 11:01, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) N Little Haddam, Connecticut (←Redirected page to Little Haddam Historic District) (top) # 11:00, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) N Highland (Middletown) (←Redirected page to Highland Historic District (Middletown, Connecticut)) (top) # 10:59, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) N Highland, Connecticut (←Redirected page to Highland Historic District (Middletown, Connecticut)) (top) # 10:56, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Pomfret Center (retarget) (top) [rollback] # 10:54, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) N Dayville (Killingly) (←Redirected page to Dayville Historic District) (top) # 10:52, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Sharon Valley (dab) (top) [rollback] # 10:49, 4 January 2010 (hist | diff) Hotchkissville, Connecticut (←Redirected page to Hotchkissville Historic District) (top) [rollback] Also there are redirects to NRHP HDs, such as the Dayville (Killingly) one, which seem counter to the editing restriction too. Anyhow, what is going on? doncram (talk) 20:25, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
As I mentioned, once these are done, I would not initiate any new ones. This is pretty much it for Connecticut. If you expand the articles to the point that a split is warranted, then I'm not going to go against that. I don't see much point in more long discussions. All anybody has to do to unmerge is to write an expanded article. --Polaron | Talk 22:07, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Polaron is continuing to edit in explicit violation of the editing restriction he agreed to. this diff, for one example. There is no way that creating new redirects like this is allowed by the editing restriction. This is adding more mess that is going to need discussing. Stop it! And, shouldn't there be consequences. I think Polaron should be blocked for a period now, if possible to block him from editing anywhere but here, just to prevent more construction of more work for us all. doncram (talk) 22:48, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Your editing restrictionPolaron, please explain why you are violating your editing restriction:
This is my summary, still visible higher up on your talk page. Such a restriction is entered into voluntarily, but once it is established, it is enforceable by blocks. It is not optional for you to follow the restriction. EdJohnston (talk) 00:06, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Polaron, you need to grow up and stop edit warring. You never use the talk page. You dont own wikipedia. For example, Largest Metropoltan Area's: Look at the populations, Greater LA has almost 20 Million People, while LA Metro has closer to 15 Million. Greater LA is a combination of metros, while the LA metro is the metro it self. I honestly am tired of this and will be in favor a block against you. You were given a chance and did not take it seriously. I am asking you to please stop acking like a 5 year old and listen to what people got to say, rather than by force wanting it. House1090 (talk) 06:01, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
back off!Hey, ur crowding me, and I think u r violating the spirit if not the letter editing restriction u agreed to. This edit by u is a redirect of an NRHP article to something else. I dunno, it is not a NRHP HD article, maybe ur restriction is just for that. But, good grief, i was obviously trying to sort out facts on HABS pics in Fairfield County (in edits of mine u have seen), and setting up this NRHP article which would hold, at least temporarily, the NRHP doc for "Fairfield Railway Stations", is part of that. It would be reasonable to post a merger suggestion, but not to abruptly revert my work in progress. Don't be a jerk. doncram (talk) 03:47, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
No one has asked my opinion, but I'll offer it anyway. This edit by Polaron was appropriate, as it eliminated a page that consisted of cruft that never should have been created in article space. Content like that should be kept in user space, at least until it is sufficiently developed to see the light of day in article space. --Orlady (talk) 05:09, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Fairfield Railroad Stations looks like a content fork to me and is contrary to established practice wherein railroad stations have NRHP-related content added to the individual article. I can't find a rationale for anything beyond a redirect from the NRHP nom title to the commonly-used, current name. Acroterion (talk) 16:41, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
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Materialscientist (talk) 12:00, 19 January 2010 (UTC) repeated violation of editing restrictionI thot you agreed to an editing restriction for six months, but this edit is a clear violation. You agreed not to redirect articles from NRHP HD names to/from other articles. I don't know what you are thinking. I wonder if you project that i have some evil motivations or something, and that would justify your violating your agreement. But, I still stand by what I promised. You have other options, like communicating, to explain whatever might be your point of view. I did recreate an article there, as part of finding out what are the facts to inform decisions. I think your irate view is probably ironic, that you can only hold the irate view because I did the productive work of finding and linking the NRHP nomination form, in a properly formed footnote. I presume you used the link that I built there, to get and read the nom form, and then to judge on your own that the NRHP HD should not be split from a village/hamlet article. There is much that u and i have talked out, with others, about how the process is to work following the act of gathering information, including pointing out whether 3 criteria for a merger apply or not. I indicated in my edit summary or somehow that i did not know whether 3 merger criteria applied or not. You could contribute constructively in a discussion about what are the facts relative to content and article structure decisions. You seem to be willfully disregarding your agreement. Why should I abide by my semiformal, voluntary agreements with you, to make the process work fairly for you too, if you are willy-nilly going to violate your word, your promise in a more formal process. At any rate, you are in clear violation of your editing restriction. This is at least the 2nd episode. doncram (talk) 03:56, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
Bus routes OK?I thought they would be disallowed per WP:NOT#DIR? Dabomb87 (talk) 22:25, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
agreementHey, i think we've been making a lot of progress in actually developing articles. Please let's try to stay constructive. I don't want my own edits to devolve negatively. About this edit in Lakeville though, can we pls. not remove the "substantially similar" unless we add a sourced statement or two comparing a village vs. an HD. Your edit is asserting you have read the nom, but you are not adding a ref so far. I think that does not comply with our agreement. And please, could you develop a proper reference and make a proper statement with footnote even to the relevant page of the nom? --doncram (talk) 13:33, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
CT principal communitiesJust a thought: Why not proceed to develop articles on all the CT principal communities? It seems odd to still be hashing out whether NRHP HDs must be merged to CT community articles, after 7 months, and there still not be CT community articles to consider as possible merge targets, and to accumulate info about the communities. It seems negative to address CT communities only when the legitimacy of an NRHP HD article can be questioned. More positive would be to develop the CT communities articles systematically. Are there any good sources having info on all of them? I know there is a list of them but am not familiar with what more info on each one will exist somewhere. Other CT editors could be recruited at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Connecticut. --doncram (talk) 20:57, 1 February 2010 (UTC) Canaan edits and edit restrictionI notice your edits to the Canaan (CDP), Connecticut article, and setting up new redirects to it. I appreciate that your intent in this edit was no doubt constructively meant, to give a more precise statement than the deliberately ambiguous "substantially similar" statement. However, by the terms of the Poquetanuck agreement between you and me, the "substantially similar" phrase is only supposed to be replaced by a sourced, more specific statement or passage. Could you please add a proper source? I do appreciate your effort in trying to be more constructive than a just previous edit by O, which I had reverted. The constructive thing to do is develop a statement like you have, but make it sourced. Also these two new redirects you added seem counter to the spirit of the edit restriction you agreed to. # 08:54, 2 February 2010 (hist | diff) N Canaan Depot (←Redirected page to Canaan (CDP), Connecticut) (top) # 08:54, 2 February 2010 (hist | diff) N Canaan Village (←Redirected page to Canaan (CDP), Connecticut) (top) I don't think it improves wikipedia for readers to add redirects from phrases that are not used or explained in a target article. And in this case if the terms actually refer to the historic district which may well end up getting split out, you will have created confusion and more effort, setting up possibly more battling. It seems, broadly, part of battling to force redirects and article mergers, on basis of your private beliefs, in absence of developing sourced information that others also can consider. And, redirects are easy for you to create but hard to remove. In this case there is no information whatsoever about "Canaan Depot" in the target article (the word "depot" does not appear), and the only "Village" mention is in the name of the historic district, which perhaps should be split out anyhow. I would probably not object if there were development about the two terms in the article and if they appeared in bold in the lede of the article. Please consider developing material first, before creating redirects. Please note, if I or another editor redirect those terms to Canaan, Connecticut, the town, which I will consider (and I will consider requesting deletion of them in an RFD, too) then it would definitely be a violation of your edit restriction for you to revert. Sorry to be coming down on your well-meant edits, but I hope my being prompt in these feedback comments is better. --doncram (talk) 16:28, 2 February 2010 (UTC) --doncram (talk) 16:28, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
# 10:10, 2 February 2010 (hist | diff) N The Hollow, Connecticut (←Redirected page to Lime Rock (Salisbury)) (top) # 10:09, 2 February 2010 (hist | diff) N Lamb's Forge (←Redirected page to Lime Rock (Salisbury)) (top) # 10:04, 2 February 2010 (hist | diff) N Jordanville, Connecticut (←Redirected page to Jordan Village, Connecticut) (top) # 10:00, 2 February 2010 (hist | diff) N Housatonic Falls (←Redirected page to Falls Village, Connecticut) (top)
# 10:31, 2 February 2010 (hist | diff) N Peantam (←Redirected page to Bantam, Connecticut) (top) # 10:30, 2 February 2010 (hist | diff) N Bantam Village (←Redirected page to Bantam, Connecticut) (top) # 10:30, 2 February 2010 (hist | diff) N Bantam Falls (←Redirected page to Bantam, Connecticut) (top)
Please be informed i have opened an Admin Needed incident report, at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#preventative block on Polaron. --doncram (talk) 17:50, 2 February 2010 (UTC) Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Wouldn't it be better to add sourced content to the target articles, then add redirects as appropriate, in accordance with WP:RS, V, SYNTH and all those other all-cap bluelinks? I see no hint concerning how Unquowa has anything to do with Greens Farms, to pick an example. Acroterion (talk) 18:13, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Editing restriction proposed at Acroterion's talkHello Polaron. Please see User talk:Acroterion#Another idea for admin action on NRHP. You may respond there if you wish. EdJohnston (talk) 19:57, 4 February 2010 (UTC) Request for commentI have opened a request for comment at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Doncram. While the RFC is named for him alone, I would expect that your behavior would be discussed as well. I would encourage you to participate in a civil manner in this discussion, in hopes of finding a reasonable resolution. --Elkman (Elkspeak) 23:05, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
National Register of Historic Places listings in New Haven, ConnecticutThanks for improving the intro; the intros for the Connecticut lists really need to be upgraded to the styles used by many other states. I'll see what I can do today to fix that. Nyttend (talk) 15:11, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Will you please comment at Talk:List of National Historic Landmarks in Connecticut relative to these sites? Doncram seems to think that this is an official list of sites, while I'm more and more thinking that they're not. Nyttend (talk) 16:33, 15 February 2010 (UTC) Fairfield County & townsThanks for all the helpful editing & re-verts! Would you consider joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Connecticut ? It looks abandoned and it would really help CT articles to have a wider editing audience. Markvs88 (talk) 15:44, 16 February 2010 (UTC) List of most populous cities in IndiaCan you tell me why you reverted the edit on that page? I added a pic of a skyline because its an article on population.Bhonsley (talk) 18:02, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
El Paso-JuarezPolaron, you inserted an "accuracy" banner on El Paso-Juárez Metropolitan Area with no explanation at all. Since this is up for DYK nonimation I have to insist that you explain this immediately or else I have to remove the banner. --Mcorazao (talk) 19:28, 19 February 2010 (UTC) Hi Polaron. You need to discuss things with other people - Instead of making sudden changes or reverting while in a dispute, you need to continue going in a dialog until your disputes are resolved. Thank you WhisperToMe (talk) 21:03, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
ANIHello Polaron. An editor has mentioned you at WP:ANI#Help: El Paso-Juárez Metropolitan Area. EdJohnston (talk) 01:35, 20 February 2010 (UTC) speedy delete on Hubbard Park Historic District (Connecticut)I requested speedy delete for Hubbard Park Historic District (Connecticut), a new redirect that you set up. There is no Hubbard Park Historic District in Connecticut, as far as I can tell from searching in the National Register's NRIS database. There certainly is no mention of such an HD in the redirect target article, which is about a park that is indeed NRHP-listed. In general, it is my opinion that redirects should not be set up unless the redirect target shows information about the place. Otherwise, the redirect is unsupported and is surprising-to-readers. Please comment here if you disagree about the speedy delete; my comment there points to here. --doncram (talk) 15:15, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
List of metropolitan areas by populationI didn't put an edit summary on the revert edit i did. My computer was being weird, i was just going to say that it's better if it says Los Angeles instead of Greater Los Angeles, all of the cities there just use the largest city name and plus there is a reference at the bottom of the page that explains it. Not a big deal but just wanted to let you know. SoCal L.A. (talk) 04:11, 23 February 2010 (UTC) redirecting and edit restrictionYour redirecting Whitney Avenue is technically a violation of your editing restriction, if you do not have support from other editors. You set it up as a redirect; i converted it to an article; your redirect is the technical violation. I think that Whitney Avenue is substantially different than Whitney Avenue HD, different than how similar Hillhouse Avenue is to Hillhouse Avenue HD. I concede up front that others might possibly agree with you, but you need to get agreement and if consensus goes your way then it should be someone else implementing a redirect. Discussion about the content issue should be held at Talk:Whitney Avenue. I see you made an edit summary in your redirect, which you could use in the discussion. But for now i will restore the article. --doncram (talk) 16:29, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Countries, LatviaYour revert of my edits here: [42] were without warrant, and are disruptive. It clearly states here: [43] on the Latvian Statistics agency that the population is as I edited it. Please do not engage in further disruptive of vandalizing acts in the future. Slaja (talk) 03:59, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
wiping out NRHP HD sectionDude, ur edit wiping out the starter section about the Wooster Square Historic District, in the Wooster Square article makes perhaps a fitting end to all this contention about NRHP HDs in Connecticut. I thot that a nice list of the named historic buildings that are described in the NRHP document that i painstakingly enough added, could be given in that section. And, I hoped you wanted to develop NRHP material, not make it harder for other editors to engage. But no, your first step is to eradicate having a section on that.... :( I just find it ironic. Anyhow, i am hoping we are done, or nearly so, with reviewing all the CT NRHP HDs. I don't see any outstanding issues in the big checklist where you would have any complaint about whether the poquetanuck agreement was implemented properly or not, or where your editing restriction interfered. I did note ur recent question to A there and responded by doing a merger or two where u would not have been able to. So I hope/trust that i have adequately fulfilled my commitment to make the editing restriction work out fairly enough. Knock on wood about being done. --doncram (talk) 16:49, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Whitney Ave HDHey i put in a DYK co-nom at Template talk:Did you know#Whitney Avenue Historic District, using ur map as image. Actually i don't often have luck keeping photos included in DYKs that i submit, and doubt that the map image would fly there, in the end. Unfortunately one doesn't get any feedback about whether pic is regarded as good, until the closing DYK editor composes the next batch of DYKs, and there's no opportunity to discuss. I think we might have more luck getting an image to stay in if we used one of the HABS pics for Atwater-Ciampolini House and used an alternative hook for a double DYK. If can develop that other article quickly. Will try; any help refining current hook or otherwise, would be appreciated. Thanks! --doncram (talk) 20:10, 4 March 2010 (UTC) NYC Wikipedia Meetup Sunday, March 21
In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, review the recent Wikipedia Day NYC, plan for the next stages of projects like Wikipedia at the Library and Lights Camera Wiki, and hold salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects, for example User:ScienceApologist will present on "climate change, alternative medicine, UFOs and Transcendental Meditation" (see the November meeting's minutes). In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and generally enjoy ourselves and kick back. And if the weather is good, we'll have a star party with the telescopes on the roof of Pupin Hall! You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list. To keep up-to-date on local events, you can also join our mailing list. DYK for Whitney Avenue Historic District
Mifter (talk) 12:03, 18 March 2010 (UTC) heyHey, you're invited to join wp:NRHP as a member by adding your name, and whether you're a member or not you are welcome to comment/ask questions at its Talk page wt:NRHP or to post announcement of your new NRHP articles or photos at its main page, in the new contributions section. You'd have been welcome to join at any time, but I don't know if you've actually been invited before. Glad to be working together on Mystic River Historic District and other articles. Cheers, --doncram (talk) 17:32, 26 March 2010 (UTC) Join the WP:USRDCUP 2010!We're going to go ahead and try this again! The contest will begin April 1. It is a contest to encourage editors to improve teh quality of WP:USRD articles and participate in USRD. Precautions will be taken to make sure that people do not "game the system" and bring article quality down. Please sign up ASAP! Announcements regarding the contest will be made at WP:USRDCUP, Twitter, and/or IRC. --Rschen7754 06:51, 28 March 2010 (UTC) New Haven or other articlesHey, I suggested at Talk:List of RHPs in CT that it would be good to create good stub articles for CT NRHPs, and thot starting with/finishing out New Haven would be a good place to start. That's what i thot, and then i was looking at beginning of the New Haven list, and that's why i checked out and edited the Beaver HD one (which i see u noticed). I hoped we might just develop the article. Would you like to proceed along such lines, or proceed with a different CT list-article, or are you just not interested? I'll watch here, or u know where my Talk page is. Cheers, --doncram (talk) 02:40, 11 April 2010 (UTC) David Littell HouseThanks for the note, but you're slightly off; all Pennsylvania townships are incorporated, so Hanover Township is the closest municipality. However, it is the closest municipality that's not a minor civil division. Nyttend (talk) 22:53, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
WillimanticIs there a reason you're reverting edits instantly, while I'm making them? Mjl0509 (talk) 04:13, 26 April 2010 (UTC) April 2010 USRD newsletter
Did you actually read the guidelines for appropriate external links? "that the library is integral to the town" is not one of the reasons that we have for including an external link in an article. Active Banana (talk) 18:53, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
I have moved this discussion to the article talk page. Active Banana (talk) 14:55, 5 May 2010 (UTC) Coos CountyIf you can provide some refs that the county government(Sheriff,Deeds,Probate,etc.) itself uses the umlaut, i'll take off the disputed tag and not move it back. It appears that I need to head up to Stewartstown in the next few days, and Lancaster is on the way to Stewartstown, so i'll take some pictures. What the county's public officials use are the authoritative spelling IMO. Doc Quintana (talk) 16:32, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
what exactly is your problem with me changing Karachi's official statistics on area and density when i have provided references to go with them? Hrh80 (talk) 15:18, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
wherever that 'source' is from its entirely wrong Hrh80 (talk) 16:03, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
NYC Wikipedia Meetup Saturday, May 22
In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, review the recent Wikimedia Chapters Meeting 2010, plan for the next stages of projects like Wiki-Conference NYC and Wikipedia Cultural Embassy, and hold salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects (see the March meeting's minutes). In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and generally enjoy ourselves and kick back. You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list. To keep up-to-date on local events, you can also join our mailing list. ct nrhp updateI just noticed that Mechanic Street Historic District, in List of RHPs in New London, is currently a redirect. I'll start an article, okay? It seems not to have been discussed in the big issues list; i assume it is not a problem. Also, i wonder about closing up the article drive on New Haven RHPs. Perhaps i'll try to fix up the descriptions in the list-article, but otherwise not doing more for now, though there is plenty that could actually be done. Let me know if there's anything you'd like to work on there and i'd be willing to help. Am thinking about doing a different CT NRHP list, to similar degree as the New Haven one. --doncram (talk) 03:22, 17 May 2010 (UTC) MergingHello there! Just a quick note: only administrators can fully merge pages, as the GFDL requires us to preform a history merge. So basically what you did was fine, but next time please poke an admin so that he/she can histmerge them. :-) Many thanks! —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 09:19, 20 May 2010 (UTC) AfD nomination of Upstate ConnecticutAn article that you have been involved in editing, Upstate Connecticut, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Upstate Connecticut. Thank you. Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Orlady (talk) 22:05, 30 May 2010 (UTC) Unexplained deletions of New York metro area templateIf you want those templates, which link to those pages removed, please discuss it on the talk page. NYCRuss ☎ 21:31, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
bridgesTurn-of-River Bridge and Berlin Iron Bridge Co.. --doncram (talk) 17:32, 12 June 2010 (UTC) New York metropolitan area compositionPlease discuss this at Talk:New_York_metropolitan_area NYCRuss ☎ 21:37, 13 June 2010 (UTC) New Preston Hill Historic DistrictI think New Preston Hill Historic District was one of the redirects deleted by RFD last fall, because it is on my watchlist and your edit redirecting it pops up. I think this is a redirect from an NRHP HD name, counter to your editing restriction. Can you please help remedy it, perhaps by creating an article on the HD or adding to it, if i create one soon? --doncram (talk) 20:01, 17 June 2010 (UTC) Hugh Cain Fulling MillYou are aware, aren't you, that you've way surpassed 3RR? I'm not going to get involved with this article; you really need to work it out. Because I don't think it productive to block both you and Doncram, I've fully protected the article for 24 hours. Nyttend (talk) 21:25, 20 June 2010 (UTC) Vermont Route 104B: Where is it, and when did it exist?I have noticed that you have one again added the Vermont Route 104B row to the List of state highways in Vermont article. There needs to either be a citation or dates as to when VT 104B existed, or I will revert the list back again, because not only is it not justified, but there isn't even a shield. Thanks, HighwayMaster (talk) 22:15, 12 July 2010 (UTC) Rochambeau sitesHi, i recall we chatted a while back about developing the Rochambeau's march historic sites areticles. I've started into that a bit, with March Route of Rochambeau's Army: Old Canterbury Road and another one or two. Note in the Old Canterbury Road one i have composed a reference to the MPS document. I think that each site deserves an article about what can be found there, and which can be linked from town/village articles and from county NRHP list-articles. Each gets its own NRHP nomination doc and the MPS document as two references. Of course they all should be listed / linked from the current overall article about the march (march route of Rochambeau's army, but I think that history article would be overwhelmed with unnecessary detail about areas and current status of properties. Your comments and aid developing these would be appreciated. --doncram (talk) 16:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
List of cities proper by populationI have reported the reverts to the administrators and asked for resolution. I do not want to be drawn into an edit war. -- BsBsBs (talk) 08:09, 24 July 2010 (UTC) unsourced infoPolaron, I've been happy that you've watched my edits starting articles on NRHP-listed places in Fairfield County recently, and that you have often clarified wording and/or added further info from the NRHP nomination docment for the place. However, your adding info not from any source is not helpful IMO. We're trying to build an encylopedia of sourced info. It's nice that you have your own sources or knowledge about many Connecticut things, but i hate it when you put that into the wikipedia. For example, in the Rockrimmon Rockshelter article, how do you know it is the town of Stamford or in particular its northern part? You've added such assertion a couple times now. And, I don't think it is appropriate, for many address-restricted sites, to provide specific location information, anyhow. I dunnno, I could raise this to an ANI incident and ask for the article to be blocked from further editing, but it just seems lame. --doncram (talk) 12:04, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Wiki-Conference NYC (2nd annual)Our 2nd annual Wiki-Conference NYC has been confirmed for the weekend of August 28-29 at New York University. There's still plenty of time to join a panel, or to propose a lightning talk or an open space session. Register for the Wiki-Conference here. And sign up here for on-wiki notification. All are invited! cities properThe situation there is becoming intolerable. Do you think some sort of conflict resolution steps (an RFC on BsBsBs, for instance?) would be in order? john k (talk) 13:02, 8 August 2010 (UTC) recent editsIn several recent edits, including this one, you've been striking out mention of one or more bridges named Devon Bridge. There is sourced information that there are at least 2 such with articles. Please stop making edits reverting sourced information in favor of your non-sourced views on this point. AThis is same old same old with you, i guess. You get an idea and you just implement it willy-nilly, regardless of sourced information? Or, explain how it is not that. Anyhow, if you wish to eradicate the Devon Bridge disambiguation page, please do not redirect it, but open an AFD about it (which could conceivably lead to it being redirected). That is the way to get a consensus of other editors. I do predict the AFD will fail, if you open it however. But if you don't care to open it, just desist, don't be a jerk. --doncram (talk) 21:41, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
3RR report regarding Devon BridgeI am just now filing 3RR report for your edit warring on Devon Bridge disambiguation page. Same old same old. --doncram (talk) 22:31, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
This whole situation is ridiculous. I predict that sooner or later, there will be enough articles to justify a disambiguation page, and that no one "Devon Bridge" will be found to be the primary topic. Until that time, however, there is no purpose to this discussion -- other than to get under each other's skins. And, BTW, the main contender that I've identified for the third use of "Devon Bridge" is a bridge across the North Saskatchewan River in Alberta, Canada. See http://www.rivervalley.ab.ca/media/uploads/rva-early-settlement.pdf . --Orlady (talk) 23:43, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Also, BTW, given the number of railroad bridges that cross the Housatonic River (List of crossings of the Housatonic River), I predict that the name Housatonic River Railroad Bridge is going to need to be replaced by more specific names, like Metro North railroad bridge (Housatonic). --Orlady (talk) 23:52, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Orlady, now that you have intervened, where/how do you suggest that this be resolved. I suggested strongly to Polaron that he should open an AFD as an obvious forum to focus discussion on this issue. I can't fairly open such an AFD as I do not honestly support the deletion/redirect of the dab page. Orlady, you re-closed the 3RRNB discussion and posted here. Thank you for doing a little research (as I had done a while ago) and finding other Devon Bridges. I happened to recall one historic one in England as likely being the most primary, but that doesn't matter. Now, there are scattered discussions, and the article in question is a redirect. Orlady, could you please yourself restore the dab page and allow opening, or open yourself, discussion at the Talk page of that article, so that hopefully-civil discussion could proceed there? Or, please advise where else the topic of the primary usage status of the Washington Bridge (Connecticut) article as the primary usage of the term "Devon Bridge" can best be addressed. --doncram (talk) 01:53, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
no sources for redirects, again again10:12, 9 August 2010 (diff | hist) N Washington-Devon Bridge (←Redirected page to Washington Bridge (Connecticut)) 10:08, 9 August 2010 (diff | hist) N Devon Railroad Bridge (←Redirected page to Housatonic River Rai In a couple edits I see you created redirects, as typical with no support in the target articles for those names being alternatives. As usual, other editors cannot tell if you are making up s*** again, or if you have a source. I put in speedy deletion requests, which i see you are reverting. Is it necessary to open an RFD or a RFC/U on your behavior, or what, to get you to support your edits with sources. The way you work seems deliberately calculated to cause others to doubt the accuracy of your edits, and to cause great amounts of others efforts to get sources added where you could simply add them when you have them. --doncram (talk) 17:34, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
New Canaan, ConnecticutI reverted your edit re: the fire department as a seperate volunteer group working outside of the union seems notable. Do you disagree, or can that stand? Best, Markvs88 (talk) 15:45, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Gents - sounds good to me. If you like, I will create a "New Canaan Fire Department" page and combine the two. It's always very sensative when talking about volunteer/union departments - so I am trying to use great caution in representing the institutional structure factually correctly. I also have numerous pictures to add of apparatus, etc. My thought is a "FIRE DEPT" page, then have subordinate to that the "FIRE COMPANY" and the "PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS LOCAL 3224" Usmchummer (talk) 18:39, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
OK, will do. When I am done I will let you know so you can blow up the old "New Canaan Fire Company, No. 1" page. Additionally, I will add the images when I am "autoconfirmed" in a few days. Thanks for the understanding - I am new to editing on Wikipedia, but am trying to add this to our other media updates (like our website). Usmchummer (talk) 18:50, 10 August 2010 (UTC) OK Gentlemen, take a look. Should be good to go. Usmchummer (talk) 19:10, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Doncram says Polaron is a jerkPlease don't be a jerk, about editing about Greenwich Municipal Center Historic District and Greenwich Avenue Historic District]]. You just noticed i created the first article replacing a redirect which you had set up. As you know, there was no indication in thetarget of redirect. I was/am obviously trying to develop material about the Greenwich Municipal Center. Your redirect was itself an unsourced contribution. If you want to contribute to developing the wikipedia, please use civil means such as raising issues at Talk pages. You could jolly well make a comment, and provide support for your views, rather than only conveying by rude edits. Specifically, please don't just rudely redirect. We've been down this path before. --doncram (talk) 20:50, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
renewed edit warring and going back on your wordI see that in two edits with misleading edit summaries "add" and "reorg" that you half-implemented a merger of two Connecticut articles, South End of Stamford and South End Historic District (Stamford, Connecticut) in these edits a month ago. The merger is counter to explicit consideration of ththe big, mediated agreement that you agreed to follow, in which the compromises included terms you proposed. Your implementing half of the merger and leaving the other merger proposal tag up allowed you to get away, for a month, with the underhanded behavior. This left two articles both presenting themselves as the article covering the NRHP historic district topic, and showing same categories and NRHP infobox, etc. I believe this was while the current drive on Fairfield NRHP articles was on, which makes it seem even more sneaky. Also, as you know there is now a process in WikiProject Connnecticut for orderly consideration of merger proposals, and your implementing this outside of that seems even more deceptive. I undid the merger, and find you watching my edits, and find that you have twice immediately restored the merged version. Please desist with that and please restore the version that I edited it to. You may open a proper merger proposal, but you are not King of Connecticut and you do not get to decide everything and force your way by edit warring. Be a decent, civil editor and remake a proposal if you wish. I believe your six month editing restriction may be expiring sometime soon. I may well argue that it should be extended in time and scope, given this and other behavior on your part. I do appreciate, by the way, that you have edited the Newtown Borough Historic District article in a supportive way, in a case where I am following the big mediation agreed-upon process and implementing a split. I am following the agreement. You should too. --doncram (talk) 20:43, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
WorthingtonAs I have always understood from growing up in Berlin, the Town of Berlin includes two principal settlements: Kensington and East Berlin. Kensington and East Berlin are divided by the Berlin Turnpike, have their own distinct downtown areas, and maintain their own seperate post offices and zip codes (06037 and 06023, respectively). The surrounding area that does not sit within the boundaries of Kensington or East Berlin (which includes much of the southern portion of town) is simply referred to as "Berlin". Worthington Ridge contains several listed historic buildings, but I have never heard/read of the area surrounding it being referred to as "Worthington". I am curious as to where you came by this information. |
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