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Cheers, Fralambert. Your list looks wonderful! I will continue to do so... for the provinces that can easily be divided up this way, of course. I'm not sure about such places as Saskatchewan, which lack a system of government divisions on the same level as Quebec, British Columbia, or Ontario... but we shall figure it out as we go along, I guess. PhnomPencil (✉)04:04, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
Hello, my thanks as well for subdividing the B.C. lists. That's a big job. Well done. I restored the original list names, however, for a few reasons:
The CRHP is not at all like the NRHP in the U.S. While the NRHP is an actual heritage register, inclusion on which confers heritage status, the CRHP is an online database and confers no heritage status. The CRHP is made up of listings of places that have been designated under other authorities. It would seem odd to name lists after a database that confers no status.
While the lists all come from the CRHP database, the CRHP is presently incomplete, and it is slow to be updated. It is a work in progress. I don't think there is any consensus at this time to necessarily limit these lists to sites that are otherwise designated but for whatever reason are not yet in the CRHP. Maybe that would be the case, but these are the early stages and we do not yet know that.
There should be consistency among the list names across Canada. While historic places is the "new" favoured name for heritage sites, we may want to change the list names. However, that should be done after a discussion, and for all the lists. Not individually be province.
There was no need to disambiguate the list names by province.
Oh yes, those names are fine. I was aiming for consistency with other countries but it really was quite clunky, and hard for people to remember if they want to check back. I'm wondering, should the first column be redlinked? ie Does a listing give a building notability? Because some of these are just houses... PhnomPencil (✉)22:24, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
The notability of the building is the fact the building is protected or acknowlage for is heritage value. Small article like Ducharme Bridge (who is the 11th shortest Bon article in the french wikipedia) what I like about wikipedia. --Fralambert (talk) 03:19, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
No problem... I hope it will just be an addition to the lists, not a complete redo. If it's the latter, I can once again organize them by Regional District but I don't think I'll add the municipality blue links to the correct column, because that's a lot of grunt work and I started classes again on Wednesday. Also I started organizing the Nova Scotia ones on my computer... is that good to go, or should I wait? PhnomPencil (✉)14:52, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for creating Human_rights_in_Tunisia, PhnomPencil!
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No problem. You've probably done thousands of changes and the one time you mess up, someone notices. Isn't it always that way? PhnomPencil (✉)05:38, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi PhnomPencil – I realise that you are, or aspire to be, indifferent to praise or blame, but let me give a little praise anyway. The lists have obviously had much work put into them and they are really quite interesting when one sees the figures juxtaposed and sortable as they are. They are a great educational resource. So, thanks for your efforts! Cheers, Maias (talk) 12:52, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, Maias. Those words mean a lot, coming from someone with the editing background of your calibre. Too bad they're estimates, but they'll be narrowed over the coming decades I'm sure... I keep dreaming about whoever compiled the first list of countries/territories by population. "Mmm yes, French West Africa's latest estimates give this band; the Assamese censuses have this number; this authority of the demographics of Austro-Hungary says this..." I'd love to see that list. PhnomPencil (✉)17:22, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Yes indeed. I think the column "Notes" in the lists is a very important one - to give some idea of the merits, accuracy and uncertainties in the estimates. Another point is that changing taxonomy may be an ongoing maintenance issue; you are probably aware that Ciconiiformes, for example, is being reexamined at the moment. Maias (talk) 03:19, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your interest! Yes, I was following what the IUCN classified them as, to avoid having to make editorial decisions (haha). It would probably be best, though, for them to fit with how Wikiproject Birds has aligned them, to keep things standardized. I'm going through the non-Passerine orders in alphabetical order. (Not sure how I'll separate the Passerine lists yet, but will cross that bridge when we come to it...) Once I get to the Pelicaniformes I'll throw those "extra" Ciconiiformes in the correct spots. Will look at every genus to be certain.
These lists are interesting, well done. Can I make some observations on style? WP:ORDINAL suggests using commas for numeral grouping 10,000,000 vs 10 000 000. I'm not sure what value there is in repeating the cite multiple times on each row. And is bold appropriate for the numbers? Chuunen Baka (talk • contribs) 09:22, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, CB. Glad you're enjoying them.
Most of the examples there use commas, but spaces are fine as long as it's consistent throughout the article (and we don't delimit with periods, as that's annoying). It's a yogurt/yoghurt issue. I double-checked that before commencing these lists. When I started the mammal lists I didn't bold the numbers, but felt that along with the binomial name, status, and images, they were blending in too much considering it's the central subject matter. So that's a rectification.
I'm repeating the citations mainly because I reckon more information will be added to the "notes" section from different sources. But if people think that it will still be fine to only include the citation after the common name, I can do that with lists from now on. It's less work; I'm fully supportive of that motion (haha). Thanks for bringing it up. PhnomPencil (✉)09:52, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you very much for improving this article (now - these articles)! One day I was searching some info about the population of sardines and found nothing. I decided to create a little table of animals by their population just for beginning of the process. As I thought the result was unbelievable!
Thanks, Ornithodiez. As a kid I had a book on whales which included each species' global population along with the other facts (size, distribution, etc). The population always fascinated me most, not sure why. One of them had a few hundred individuals, which shocked my father... "But isn't hundreds a lot?" I asked. "Not if you're the only ones on Earth." Kinda hit me.
I'd always thought Wikipedia had a place for these lists but didn't know how to go about it. After seeing Blendcore's new Organisms article last month on DYK, I thought, "OK... now's the time." Hope they come in handy... I'm a geography geek and that science plays a greater role in these estimates than what might first be expected. I'll get around to writing the prose soon. PhnomPencil (✉)21:00, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for your help on the Kazakh media articles. Curious user name, funny, but are you interested in Cambodia by any chance? ♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld11:22, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
I wasn't aware, User:Pakse was the last one I knew living in Cambodia. Thanks. Might do some more work on Laos and Cambodia today.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld11:33, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Cool, I'll see what's new when I wake up (I'm in BC, Canada now). If you have more on the same general topic as today but Cambodia-related, I'll definitely help out after breakfast. PhnomPencil (talk) 11:38, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
I miss Pakse, he was making good progress expanding the districts until he got tied down. Started Sen Sok District, not sure if it is now an official district though, it wasn't a few years back I don't think, can't find any sources!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld11:49, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Here's a map, it was supposedly recently annexed from Kandal Province. A news article I found said this happened in 2011 but that can't be right, I lived there before then (Phnom Penh Thmei) and remember seeing official maps delineating the border further out. BTW, not sure if you have had this problem, but Khmer script shows up way too small on Windows... here's how to fix it. It's amazing, but such a small oversight by Microsoft can have huge effects on language and technology use in a country. PhnomPencil (talk) 12:04, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Mya Kyaw Thein: is that a plausible name for a Burmese girl? I reckon the gentleman has confused Ma (title of respect for a young girl) and Mya (not a personal name at all), and that Kyaw Thein is a male name - you do read the Vince Calvino series, don't you? PiCo (talk) 23:11, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
Nope, I was wrong, Kyaw Thein can be a girl's name - but I think I know now where he got it from (it's the name of a singer in real life, just like in the book). PiCo (talk) 23:15, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, but have you got the wrong person? I think it sounds Burmese and have seen those books for sale, but other than that I'm kind of confused about what this is regarding... I can kind of follow Burmese script but don't really speak the language. PhnomPencil (talk) 23:32, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
Explanation: I'm bored, I'm reading Lost in Rangoon (the latest Vince Calvino thriller from Chris Moore, getting in on the current craze for things Burmese), and I thought the script attached to your name was Burmese - isn't it? Ok, so you're a Cambodia expert: guess who this character from Lost in Rangoon might be meant to be: name is Jack Saxon, publishes the Rangoon Times, before which he lived and worked in Phnom Penh for half a dozen years. Nothing about spending a month in Insein, or at least not yet - I've only just met him, in the loby of the Traders Hotel (which appears under its own name). I'm still bored. PiCo (talk) 23:42, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
Yeah I can take a wild guess, can't say I know the guy personally though. If you've lived in Phnom Penh long enough you'll eventually become a pseudonym in a book, believe me... where are you now? I see on your old user page you're a freelance writer in SEA. I'm working on a "List of passerines (birds) by population" but need a break. Would you like to collaborate on a "Corruption in x country" article for an ASEAN country? Your choice. PhnomPencil (talk) 00:02, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
I'll take Burma, I guess you'll want Cambodia. I'm in Australia, was last in both Burma and Cambodia at the end of last year. Wikipedia made me delete that old user page - Wikipedia Is Not A Blog! PiCo (talk) 00:18, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
OK sweet. Here's the only ASEAN one so far, it's pretty POV-ish. Bottom of that article has the template "Corruption in Asia". Will start tonight, may take a while. PhnomPencil (talk) 00:29, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
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I strongly disagree with your additions of ratebeer.com and beeradvocate.com across multiple articles. I'm stunned to find that you're an experienced editor. Have you ever added external links in this fashion in the past or are otherwise aware of WP:EL and WP:SPAM?
Those are the two major user-generated databases for beer worldwide, on par with the IMDb. I did not give preference to either of them, and was surprised that they had not been added sooner. When movie enthusiasts want an overview of something they want to watch, they can click on the Wikipedia page, look through the article, and go to Rotten Tomatoes, IMDb, Box Office Mojo, AllRovi, or MetaCritic through the external links. They are impartial databases of reviews, both professional and amateur. The beer world has its equivalent with RateBeer and BeerAdvocate. I have no stake in either site, and just thought that adding those would improve the articles slightly.
I am fluent in those two guidelines. I have added external links of this nature in the past for human rights articles, mainly for African countries, with links to NGO country pages. Here is an example. I once started to do the same for the IUCN for species at risk but stopped after just a couple when I realized that someone had tried to do the same in the past but that organization tends to change their web addresses. Though I do write prose, most of my edits have been gnomish, and of the 39 000+, I'd say just a few hundred have been what I consider "cleaning up" external links sections. As you've seen in my edits today I took removed some links which did not belong where they did, such as random articles from five+ years ago, individual brewer links from country articles, and blogspam.
The private sphere articles tend to be left derelict here unless it has to do with entertainment, and this was my first foray into this type of article. I don't blame people for staying away from them. However, beer is one of my many passions and I thought my small additions today would help the readers. You disagree and are therefore stunned. We're obviously at loggerheads and I foresee us talking past each other, because there's a very big difference here, and I quite honestly don't understand how you've arrived at the insinuating dichotomy in your last question. I ask that when you bring this to WP:EL/N please notify me and give me time to make my case there. Cheers, PhnomPencil (talk) 06:03, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for responding. My apologies - no insinuation nor insult intended. Since you're familiar with the relevant policies/guidelines you shouldn't be surprised that your behavior is being questioned in respect to them. I'd hoped there was a discussion that I missed on the use of these two ratings sites as external links, which you were working from...
"on par with the IMDb" So it looks safe to say that there isn't any consensus around this at all...
Discussion started here. I hope I've summarized the situation in a neutral manner and have identified the main policy/guideline-related questions to address. --Ronz (talk) 16:29, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
"After being called a linkspammer by Ronz" I don't believe I ever did so. How about we drop it now that it's crystal clear you shouldn't have been adding the links as you did? --Ronz (talk) 01:21, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
I don't want any more orange message alerts accusing me of being a spammer or liar. I've replied on the thread I asked you to start before. Pleeeease keep it there I can't handle you rubbing my nose in this any longer, I was just trying to help. PhnomPencil (talk) 01:57, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
Speaking of beer (if you all will forgive me for butting in): in real life, I'd offer each of you a beer and suggest you shake hands and let it go. Since this is cyberspace, I'm offering each of you a cyberbeer and suggesting you shake hands and let it go. Sorry it's a rather pedestrian beer, but the bar at Commons is fresh out of my favorite microbrews . I've marked the noticeboard thread as resolved because there's no use continuing the dispute there, and if you don't mind my saying so, this really doesn't seem worth fighting about while your beer goes flat. Everyone has acted in good faith, no lasting harm was done, and in the end that should be all that counts. Rivertorch (talk) 07:00, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
"I can't handle you rubbing my nose in this any longer" Sorry you feel that way. However, expressing it as you do only makes the situation worse, and seems to be an attack on me rather than a comment on how the situation was handled. That is, of course, your complaint, right? You're taking this personally because you believe some of the comments were directed at you, rather than described what happened? --Ronz (talk) 16:28, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
the reign of Raja Fate Narayan Deo who shifted also the capital of Kalahandi from Kalahandinagara ([[Junagarh, Kalahandi|Junagarh]] to Bhaumadevapatna alias [[Bhawanipatna]] and accorded recognition
Regarding Indian district comparisons with US states
Hi PhnomPencil, this is regarding the demographics sections of the Indian districts. I think including only comparisons to US subdivisions (states) reflects a US POV. Most Indians dont know much about US states, and it is incorrect to assume that most people reading the English wikipedia would know a lot about them. Also, if we are to include comparisons to other country subdivisions, why only the US ? Why not Russia, or Canada or Australia or Sudan ? I request you to remove these comparisons. The comparisons to a single nation are sufficient. I am invariant under co-ordinate transformations (talk) 18:23, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
I'll take a look next time I clear the cruft on those articles. Since you've an apparent interest in Indian geography, have you got any suggestions for quality control? Lists of schools and hospitals seem to be the worst sections. PhnomPencil (talk) 06:34, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
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] runs through here. The district is subdivided into three sections ([[Sangkat]]) and 11 groups ([[Administrative divisions of Cambodia|Krom]].<ref>[http://statsnis.org/areaname/vill_pro23.htm
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Hello. I reverted some of your additions to reggae artist articles in 'Compilations' sections and just thought I'd explain why. The majority of those sections list compilation albums that wholly consist of tracks by the artist concerned, while the Rough Guide albums only contain one track by each artist. In many cases these artists appear on a large number of various artists compilations - often too many to list. As an example, the 'Appears on' section half way down this page lists over 100 compilation albums that include a track by Toots & the Maytals, and there are undoubtedly more that are not listed there. For most artists these will not be worth including in a discography, or if they are they would need a separate article to provide a comprehensive list. I hope that's ok. Thanks. --Michig (talk) 17:53, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
OK thanks for letting me know Michig, your reasoning seems fair. Most of the artists I've been dealing with have been quite obscure (Malian blues, Afghan, etc) and nearly impossible to find in hard copy in the West; reggae is definitely a different case, and this may ring true to other genres these compilations touch upon. I'll keep my mind on this when adding to discographies (basically just integrating my new articles with the rest of the project) in the future. PhnomPencil (talk) 18:11, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
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Usage of words in the inventory of barnstar templates suggests that variant spellings have been used for a range of countries and sub national entities - so it (the TFD) would set a precedent. I have withdrawn the nomination for reasons of not wishing to startspelling and usage arguments, at this stage. JarrahTree01:03, 9 June 2018 (UTC) .
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