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DYK for Charlie Watts (fascist)

On 19 April 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Charlie Watts (fascist), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Charlie Watts was the organiser of the British Union of Fascists' cab-drivers group, which was said to have 1,000 members, in the 1930s? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Charlie Watts (fascist). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Charlie Watts (fascist)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Philip Spiro is not part of Spiro Brothers

Hallo, „H. & P. Spiro“, an art shop in Hamburg about ca. 1840 till 1865 owned by Hirsch Israel Spiro and Philipp Israel Spiro. Spiro Brothers or in German „Gebr. Spiro“ founded in March 1859 owned by Wolff Spiro and Liepmann Spiro. You'll find in a german written newspaper Börsen-Halle, 1859-03-14, page 3 in the middle (close to the bottom) under the headline „Declarationen im Firmen Bureau“ (Neue Firmen). --Sorgenlos (talk) 11:20, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Your link doesn't work. Philafrenzy (talk) 08:20, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Susan Sweney

On 20 April 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Susan Sweney, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Second World War fascist Susan Sweney (pictured) was shipwrecked so often that she described herself as "many times drowned"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Susan Sweney. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Susan Sweney), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—valereee (talk) 12:01, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Ulrich Mohr

On 23 April 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ulrich Mohr, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that when seeking to board an enemy ship, German naval officer Ulrich Mohr (pictured) once disguised himself as a British officer? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ulrich Mohr. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ulrich Mohr), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:01, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

I tried an owl...but a kitten will have to do...sorry

Whispyhistory (talk) 19:42, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you kindly, that's purrrfect. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:48, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

World's oldest postcard

I'm from Michigan US and am not familiar with being able to write in British English. User:Yoninah dropped your name that perhaps you could help me on rewording accordingly on the above article. Can you take a look at it and see if you can tweak it. I will go along with whatever edits you do, since you came highly recommended. Thanks. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:44, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the article. I will take a look. Philafrenzy (talk) 15:28, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
If Hook's house still existed, I would be able to see it from one of my windows. Was going to mention that tidbit in my talk on using postcards on Wikipedia, if I ever get to go to another Wikimania... Edwardx (talk) 10:07, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
It's postponed to 2021, as I expect you know, about the same time we will be allowed out again. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:38, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Everything seems to have been postponed to 2021. Edwardx (talk) 18:12, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Tom Moore (fundraiser)

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50,000 Destubbing Challenge Focus of the Week

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DYK for H. E. Merritt

On 29 April 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article H. E. Merritt, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Henry Merritt's triple-differential transmission allowed the Churchill tank (pictured) to rotate on the spot? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/H. E. Merritt. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, H. E. Merritt), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Issue 38, January – April 2020

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Thanks for Ted Krautzky

Hi Philafrenzy, thank you for creating the stub on Ted Kautzky. I am enjoying the expansion of the article. I have posted a question for you at the TeaHouse about sourcing images for the article, I'd be grateful if you can provide your input over there. Again, thank you. NawJee (talk) 21:30, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Nice work. I will reply there. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:34, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. There are additional, smaller sources which I will add to the article once I am finished writing all of it. For now, I am using this book to create the citations. It does cover everything I am writing, but I think it is better to have as many sources as possible. It might take another few days to finish the entire article. NawJee (talk) 22:53, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
There's no rush. You are making good progress. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:43, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. I am done with his career as an architect, designer, and painter. Do you think it has potential to become a featured article once completed? I really want to add some pictures of his work. The publishing company of the book closed down many years ago, it seems. The last book they published was a couple of decades ago. NawJee (talk) 21:16, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Tom Moore (fundraiser)

On 30 April 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Tom Moore (fundraiser), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Colonel Tom Moore, who turns 100 today, has raised more than £31 million for NHS Charities Together by walking laps of his garden? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Tom Moore (fundraiser). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Tom Moore (fundraiser)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Raflet Stamp Club for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Raflet Stamp Club is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Raflet Stamp Club until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Cardiffbear88 (talk) 11:31, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Arthur Tiley

Hi...Hope all ok. I thought I might make a better stub of Tiley, but can't find anything on early life/education etc. I found him when researching the smallpox outbreak in Bradford. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:17, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

I have larvae and worms. Why is he interesting? Philafrenzy (talk) 21:11, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
I thought he was and now I don't think so...but I feel a better stub would make me happy. Am I allowed to say that? Otherwise take tag off and leave it be. `it's better than it was. Whispyhistory (talk) 21:13, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
Sometimes I am unsure of your English "larvae and worms". Whispyhistory (talk) 21:14, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
Well we certainly want you to be happy don't we. I will look. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:31, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
I'm happy...the image turns an article alive. Thanks
I will add more later. There are more papers from Granato in one of the sources which may be more significant than the four I copied from her page and allow her research to be expanded. Philafrenzy (talk) 08:22, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Coughs and sneezes spread diseases

On 2 May 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Coughs and sneezes spread diseases, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that coughs and sneezes spread diseases (poster shown)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Coughs and sneezes spread diseases. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Coughs and sneezes spread diseases), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—valereee (talk) 12:02, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Smallpox

Hi smallpox in Gloucester (1896)... Can it have its own category and a media link to the article? Whispyhistory (talk) 09:27, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Done. The isolation hospital seems to have been at Hempsted as named in one of the pictures but not mentioned in the picture of the whole site. See also this which references an earlier epidemic in the city and a report by Sidney Coupland. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:32, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
There was also a smallpox isolation hospital at Longford, on the northern edge of the city, which is shown in the centre of this 1930 O.S. map. It obviously pre-dates 1930 but I don't know when it was built. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:36, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
Do you know the area? There was another epidemic in 1923 and some of the photos may be from 1923 not 1896 (the one of the vaccine sign). I'm not sure how to tackle the article- timeline? or a story, although most references are very old and information not clear, so may have to go on hold. Some good quality and quantity of images. Whispyhistory (talk) 13:06, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
I have visited. The subject is the 1896 epidemic so tell that in chronological order with the earlier one in background and the later one at the end. Try The Times archive and similar newspaper archives. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:47, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

fix this

Hi ...are you around to fix what has happened here? Whispyhistory (talk) 20:20, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
It's ok..I see it was done I think Whispyhistory (talk) 20:21, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

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Nomination of Bill Cross for deletion

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List of London medical students who assisted at Belsen

A recent edit from what looks like a close connection occurred. Do we trust the image...looks okay to me. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:49, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

He claims to be the photographer which seems unlikely given the date of c. 1945. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:26, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
the uniform is not one of the student ones so the picture must have been taken at some other (later) time. The picture shows a military honour not bestowed on the students and are the small badges on the epaulettes those of a chaplain or air force? Whispyhistory (talk) 12:38, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
I noticed but we can't guess at any of this. The uploader needs to explain and also why they own the copyright to the image. It's common for people to upload scans of real photographs they own using CCBYSA but that doesn't mean they are the owner of the copyright. That usually remains with the original photographer, or their heirs, or anyone they sold the rights to. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:47, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
They left a comment after your edit on commons. Whispyhistory (talk) 12:56, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
Yes, but who exactly took it and when and when did the photographer die? Philafrenzy (talk) 12:58, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
Idk...according to the message, it says from their wedding day (could it be his wife). Maybe the uploader needs help. Whispyhistory (talk) 13:01, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
I left a message. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:37, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks...no-one I know..at IWM or otherwise know anything about it. They appear to have been in the military already...were assisting in Normandy landings. Thank you .Whispyhistory (talk) 20:52, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Clap for Our Carers

On 14 May 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Clap for Our Carers, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Britons are being urged to clap for their carers every Thursday evening during the country's COVID-19 pandemic? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Clap for Our Carers), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 12:03, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Stubs

Hi...I find find stubs difficult to start...can I suggest some for you and I'll expand? eg Aliens Order 1920 Whispyhistory (talk) 20:03, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, but you will have to give the sources. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:23, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

"Coronababy" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Coronababy. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 May 17#Coronababy until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 15:16, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Commented there. Will be an article in 9 months. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:22, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Priyanka Fernando for deletion

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Nomination of William Frederick Windham for deletion

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Rafiuddin Ahmed

Hi...Are you able to add a better image to infobox here. A thank you in advance. Whispyhistory (talk) 14:17, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Manors in Devon

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Precious anniversary

Precious
Six years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:33, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Gerda. Philafrenzy (talk) 08:26, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Valerian Rybar

On 28 May 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Valerian Rybar, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that interior designer Valerian Rybar's dining room was lined with 400 fake books with titles about episodes in his life, including International Boredom, allegedly about his ex-wife? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Valerian Rybar. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Valerian Rybar), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Parrot fever

Needs a lot of work still....can't think of a dyk and it's not ready for the tag to be removed. Shall I leave it? or..can you dyk and I'll complete over the week. The origin needs sorting most importantly. No urgency...it's waited almost 100 years. Whispyhistory (talk) 18:34, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Is that what killed the Norwegian Blue? Philafrenzy (talk) 21:24, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
I will need to investigate as I am not familiar with the so called "Monty Python"...but in current climate...“The more things change, the more they stay the same” Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr (1848)...Whispyhistory (talk) 21:44, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
As a reptile, the Monty Python rarely gets fevers and with no legs it doesn't walk. It can however eat as many as four Yorkshiremen in one sitting, that is if it can't get its favourite food, Spam. Nudge Nudge, know what I mean? Philafrenzy (talk) 10:34, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Investigated ... Never heard of any of above. Apparently the parrot sketch has been shown to pupils in class, to show different ways of saying "dead".:) Whispyhistory (talk) 11:35, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
All four seasons of Monty Python's Flying Circus are available on DVD, as are most (all?) of the spin-off films. It's probably best to begin with the TV series, but not the fourth season (which wasn't as good, and not just because it was half the episodes and lacked John Cleese) --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 12:08, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks @Redrose64:, for the literature search. I'm guessing both of you have watched it all. Whispyhistory (talk) 15:22, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
I watched the dead parrot sketch a few times over...it is very clever and indeed one could learn the various terminology for "dead". The shop keeper is available for questions next week. Any ideas/suggestions? Whispyhistory (talk) 19:58, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Questions? Philafrenzy (talk) 20:22, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
a request for information...don't worry Whispyhistory (talk) 06:07, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Kensal House

Thank you for your work on Kensal House. Welcome to Kensal House is now linked to below, and the section on the nursery (starting at 5:00) is charming. Will try to expand more later or tomorrow. Edwardx (talk) 12:24, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Brought back memories of being given a bottle of milk every day at school. Don't defy any gender stereotypes in the film do they, however modern the architecture may have been? Philafrenzy (talk) 21:14, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
That film was from 1937, and within a few years many of the women were working, no doubt due to the subtle influence of modernist architecture. All that I can really remember about nursery school was the afternoon naps. Milk snatcher is a redirect. Can we include the 1942 Games poster? I would like to refer to that in the DYK hook. After all, it was seeing this at the Games exhibition at the National Army Museum that led to this article. Edwardx (talk) 23:10, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
I assume you refer to the not so subtle effect of the Second World War, after which many men wanted women to go back to their modernist or non-modernist kitchens. Since Boris now says there is such a thing as Society, perhaps he will bring the free school milk back. It may be needed soon. Added the poster to the article. It was on Commons already. P.S. It is the free school milk that is the reason I am 6ft 5in tall. Philafrenzy (talk) 07:30, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Now you mention it, WWII does ring a bell. Conversely, a lack of school milk accounts for my Lilliputian size. Bit feeble of me not to check Commons first. Edwardx (talk) 13:57, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Effects of a calcium deficiency probably. Philafrenzy (talk) 17:40, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Concerning the free/subsidised milk given out in schools - see
  • Knight, Katherine (2011) [2007]. Spuds, Spam and Eating for Victory: Rationing in the Second World War. Brimscombe: The History Press. pp. 54–55, 192–3, 196. ISBN 978-0-7524-5946-2.
some of which describes the post-war situation - right down to the early 1970s. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:54, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
Beer was not rationed but was weaker than pre-war it says. I assume you had a special ration of milk stout @Redrose64:, explaining your ability to lift heavy objects with ease. Philafrenzy (talk) 07:40, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
I certainly drink lots of this, among other beers. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:15, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
Drink it? I thought you needed a knife and fork. Philafrenzy (talk) 14:00, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Magic

Wizard of Wikipedia
Woke up to magic. Thanks for Tabitha. Whispyhistory (talk) 06:04, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
Just doing a filling. Do you have Unstoppable: 75 Stories of Trailblazing Indian Women? Philafrenzy (talk) 07:00, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
No I don't have a hard copy...However, a lot can be read online [1]. Whispyhistory (talk) 12:19, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
All we need now is to conjour up some new sources about her career, personal life or death that don't rehash the existing sources. Then it would make a good DYK. Philafrenzy (talk) 08:26, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Magic has gone. I can't find anything else on her. Whispyhistory (talk) 17:28, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
If only you knew a dental historian. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:59, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
done...awaiting spell to work. Whispyhistory (talk) 15:11, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
Spell worked, but 'good news'- she is known, 'bad news' - they knew less than we do until read the W article. Whispyhistory (talk) 15:33, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
The contact given was [2]...sorry. We have only just found out they have sadly passed away. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:04, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
And they shall live forevermore on Wikipedia. Amen. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:40, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
@Whispyhistory: Impressive fast work on Coonar. Was he a Sikh? (I don't think he has the right infobox) Philafrenzy (talk) 07:16, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Do you deliberately leave me your bare urls? :). Yes he was a Sikh... thanks. Which infobox should I be using? I'll try and get an image, unless you can get one without me pleading to people. Whispyhistory (talk) 08:10, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
No, but if I want to quickly create a stub, bare urls will do for 24 hours as they can take a while to format correctly, particularly for Google books. Use person or medical person, but he's not a scientist is he? It has an image now. Philafrenzy (talk) 08:30, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Lillie Hall

The second ref for Lillie Hall has a great 1903 photo, but the Science Museum are claiming copyright. Surely we can use it? Edwardx (talk) 12:26, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, their claim is complete ******** (rhymes with Horlicks). Philafrenzy (talk) 20:48, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. Great image, but I doubt I will find enough text to get to DYK length. Edwardx (talk) 23:12, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
There are a lot of sources in books (search "Lillie Hall Rolls" and an obvious hook that Charles Rolls, who co-founded Rolls Royce, had his first car showroom at Lillie Hall (pictured). Also images at Getty indicate some sort of reception with flags. Unclear whether it was his first premises or first showroom. Philafrenzy (talk) 08:19, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. Agreed - that was more or less the hook I had in mind. Will look to expand later or tomorrow, once normal British weather has resumed. Edwardx (talk) 13:59, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Expect torrential rain soon, floods, and a return of the "why didn't they dredge?" debate. Philafrenzy (talk) 17:39, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Rain has started. @Edwardx:... Is this useful? Whispyhistory (talk) 17:19, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
Only just spotted this. Thank you, Whispyhistory. Several Lillie Hall mentions. I shall have to crack on soon as the 7-day DYK deadline is tomorrow. Edwardx (talk) 21:49, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
I didn't think you would do it, but you did, well done. Whispyhistory (talk) 12:59, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, Whispyhistory. I only did it to prove you wrong - Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! The article is a bit of a sprawling mess, but with luck someone will come along and tidy it up. Edwardx (talk) 17:56, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
You succeeded...and I believe we are trespassing on someone elses talk page...but its ok. I bow to you. I'll look and tidy but I think you are better placed. Lillie Hall is a good story...What is there now? Whispyhistory (talk) 19:03, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
You both have permission to trespass as much as you want. Philafrenzy (talk) 19:13, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Permission kindly accepted. I was hoping that our estimable host might pick up on the tidying hint, as he's good at that sort of thing. Speaking of flattery, I've always been flattered when others have chosen to "hang out" at my talkpage. As for Lillie Hall, I think that much of that area is now "luxury" flats. Having made the Car Illustrated link blue, I'm about to start work on the other redlink, Claude Watney, which looks more promising. Edwardx (talk) 19:22, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
What has got into you? Have the government prohibited the transmission of postcards? Philafrenzy (talk) 19:25, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
I am happy to take a break from medicine and take Rolls Royce...just say when. Whispyhistory (talk) 19:26, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Colder weather, ennui. Edwardx (talk) 20:41, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Walter Sickert (when he wasn't being Jack the Ripper). Philafrenzy (talk) 20:52, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
That could be me, apart from the 'tache, cigar and suit. And I'm not quite old enough to be a Ripper suspect. Edwardx (talk) 21:28, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Was it his first showroom? And why the "original" Lillie Hall. How many were there? Philafrenzy (talk) 19:50, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Good points. Yes, his first showroom. Conduit Street was later. There was something in a book about Lillie Hall being in Cricklewood, but it was one of those Lulu self-published things, so I decided against using it. Have therefore dropped any mention of "original", and reworked the last paragraph accordingly. Edwardx (talk) 20:38, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Slough

Yes, the Slough article is wrong, or at the very least misleading. The historic counties existed for centuries unchanged and continue to do so. Modern administrative counties (as per Local Government Act 1888 and subsequent acts, notably the 1972 Local Gov Act) created *administrative* counties, which are separate from the historic counties, and have continually changed since their creation (the bulk of them in the 1970s and thereafter). I will concur that Slough (Berkshire, historically Buckinghamshire) may be acceptable. However, deleting the Middlesex line completely however is not acceptable, as the link provided clearly states the above. Numerous governments officials have repeated the point (see https://britishcountyflags.com/county-definitions/). WisDom-UK (talk) 19:38, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Slough was never in Middx. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:27, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
I never said it was. There are two separate edits here being referred to. WisDom-UK (talk) 22:33, 8 June 2020 (UTC) Ps. Speaking of Berkshire, Didcot is Berks not Oxon. WisDom-UK (talk) 22:35, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
Trying to place Slough in Bucks and Didcot in Berks is very misleading for the reader. There is a place for the information but it is in the fine detail of their respective articles, not in the lead, and you need better sources for it. As for Middlesex, it's gone, like bobbies on the beat and the sixpence. Get over it. Philafrenzy (talk) 07:05, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
No. I am repeating official government advice that the historic counties continue to exist. It is common practice across Wikipedia to indicate both the modern administrative area and the historic county towns and villages are situated in in the lead. If anything is misleading it your attempt to unilaterally exclude important information from the article.WisDom-UK (talk) 10:50, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
By all means include the information (with a reliable source) when it is relevant but please don't change articles as you did without qualification to say Slough is in Bucks. It can only cause confusion. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:00, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
And please stop unilaterally removing my referenced additions re. Middlesex.WisDom-UK (talk) 15:31, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

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DYK for Spanish Galleon, Greenwich

On 11 June 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Spanish Galleon, Greenwich, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that there has been a Galleon inn on the same site as the current Spanish Galleon in Greenwich, England, since the 17th century? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Spanish Galleon, Greenwich. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Spanish Galleon, Greenwich), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Peter MacCallum Cancer Centre

How do I tidy this? Also Erysipelas has a long list of notable people that had it...can you get rid of it on a list or something... imo it distracts from the core text.. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:19, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Try suggesting it on Talk. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:55, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Emily Sheffield

Emily Sheffield is the new editor of the Evening Standard, from 1 July. The photo of David Cameron asleep is probably the best hook, as being expelled from school for drugs may be too negative, but there may well be other material out there. Edwardx (talk) 19:45, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

More here if you can verify it from RSs. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:41, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
Much expanded. Edwardx (talk) 22:49, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Cale Street

Cale Street is yet another Chelsea street (one leads to the next). Already DYK length; several hook possibilities, yet no obvious best choice. Can we use the Markino painting? Edwardx (talk) 21:28, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

I will look tomorrow. Markino didn't die until 1956. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:59, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for expanding, and for the hook; the gin connection was what I was going to go with too. Edwardx (talk) 19:53, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
It's the best in the current content. There might be an alt in some of the external links. Philafrenzy (talk) 19:55, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
Always worth checking to see if there have been any murders - I found nothing. Edwardx (talk) 20:11, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
It's not too late to put that right. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:16, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
Have you taken any photos of Cale Street? Philafrenzy (talk) 07:21, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
I don't think so, but I could. Maybe this weekend, if the rain stops. And then wander up to Eccleston Square, started yesterday. Edwardx (talk) 10:21, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. It really needs a better lead image. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:31, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
I thought the image was ok. Don't send Edwardx out in the rain. We had thunder not long ago. Is this any good? While looking at images this is a little special. Are you able to add an image P? If Redrose64 is around, I found a dr interested in a railway station. Whispyhistory (talk) 18:12, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
Don't worry, Whispyhistory. I won't be going anywhere if it's raining. Edwardx (talk) 19:42, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
Having successfully predicted rain, I now predict sun for tomorrow. (Don't tell the BBC, they keep stealing my forecasts) Philafrenzy (talk) 20:51, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. Green parakeets are out, looking bright, your predictions appear sound. Whispyhistory (talk) 04:09, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

DYK for William Frederick Windham

On 20 June 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article William Frederick Windham, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that William Frederick Windham (depicted) was the subject of the longest and most expensive lunacy case in English history? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/William Frederick Windham. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, William Frederick Windham), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:01, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Christopher Woolard

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A kitten for you!

Frank Clifford Rose... looks better every day..thank you.

Whispyhistory (talk) 20:35, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you kindly, but you did most of the work. It would look even better with consistent capitalisation of book and article titles. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:09, 24 June 2020 (UTC)


On the other hand, kittens look slightly less cute every day. Edwardx (talk) 21:38, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
Dogs have evolved to manipulate us with their "puppy eyes". Philafrenzy (talk) 10:29, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
That's why I had tropical fish. No manipulation, and it was clear who the boss was. Edwardx (talk) 11:33, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
That's what they wanted you to think. They made you their slave without you even suspecting it, just like Jimmy Wales or Whispyhistory. Philafrenzy (talk) 14:25, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
Edwardx is just kind, like yourself. Did I sort the capital letters out correctly? Whispyhistory (talk) 16:59, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
Yes apart from subtitles starting with a capital which I have done. It's not a pedantic point. The most authoritative sources take care to be consistent. It shows a lot of care has been taken in the writing. When did you start using lower case after the first word? It's not wrong, but is the less common form. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:25, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
The more I look at the letters, the more confusing it becomes. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:22, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
I tried keeping fish for a bit, at least five in total (although no more than two at once) but I gave up because they didn't live longer than two or three weeks. My father poisoned one of them. There may have been more than five, I suspect that some died without me noticing and were secretly replaced by my mother. I had considerably more success with a cat - just one, who lasted 13 years from adoption. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:54, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
Interesting story @Redrose64:. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:22, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
All my fish have come with a portion of chips and haven't lasted long. I may have been going to the wrong sort of pet shop. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:09, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
Funny Whispyhistory (talk) 20:22, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Roger Poole

Are you able to magic an image here? Whispyhistory (talk) 14:54, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Whispyhistory (talk) 06:31, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Cale Street

On 1 July 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cale Street, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that St Luke's burial ground, on the south side of London's Cale Street, once had a 9-foot-high (2.7 m) wall and railings to protect against grave robbers? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cale Street. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Cale Street), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 00:03, 1 July 2020 (UTC)