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You seem to laboring under the mistaken impression that MOS is a Wikipedia policy and that it must therefore be followed at all times. This is not the case. MOS is not policy, it is an editing guideline. It is not mandatory, and its advice is frequently wrong. Editors are allowed (and, indeed, should be encouraged) to format articles in whatever way is best for the reader, the article and the encyclopedia. In this case, there is absolutely no reason on earth that "Further reading" should have it's own hierarchical section, listed in the TOC, except that MOS says it should. Putting "Further reading" into the "References" makes perfect sense, as the "References" section is where the reader is going to head to in order to find more sources of information. By putting "further reeading" into it's own section, you're saying to the reader that that list is equal to the notes, since they're both on the same hierarchical level -- but that list is not equal to the notes, it's just a reading list, and nothing more.
Please stop edit warring over this trivial issue. One thing that ArbCom has been very clear about, is that it has very little patience with people who edit war trying to enforce MOS. Just leave it alone, please, it's fine the way I had it. BMK (talk) 23:25, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
It is perfectly normal to have further reading in its own section. You will find few articles where it isn't and for good reason. We separate it to make it completely clear that those books were not sources for the article. See the last version before you first edited the article for how it should be done. I don't think we are at Arbcom level on this yet. Nor, to be honest, do I appreciate the implied threat. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:34, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Philafrezy, I've been here for almost 10 years and over 150,000 hand-made edits, I know what a stand-alone "Further reading" section looks like, thanks, and I also know what's best for the article. Please don't edit like a robot, and please don't edit war to enforce a non-mandatory guideline. We're not here to collect DYKs to hang on the wall, we're here to build an encyclopedia. BMK (talk) 23:59, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
You are mixing sources for the article and non-sources in the same section. This is just a bad idea, full stop. It needs to be in its own section for exactly the reason you give above, because it is just a reading list. Please change it back to as it was before you thought up your own novel ways of organising the article. Previous editors had it right. Philafrenzy (talk) 00:04, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
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Yes but I can't do it until the article is in mainspace as the fair use rules require that. The image also needs to be essential to the understanding of the article, or a part of it, so you need to add relevant text to the article in that respect. When you have done that and moved it, the image can be added. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:11, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Good article, but be careful, you have got both of the paintings wrong. It's a pastel of the Degas stock exchange picture that she owned, not the oil painting at the Musée d'Orsay, Paris, and the Monet cliff scene that she owned is this one, not the one you have linked in the article. You will need to correct all three articles. Artists often painted the same scene repeatedly (especially the Impressionists) and made preliminary drawings or oil sketches or tried different mediums such as pastel, watercolour or oil. Nice effort though! Philafrenzy (talk) 16:32, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
Done. I had no idea. Perhaps you could add a note on her talkpage to avoid future mistakes. Funny how I saw her name in this article while working on Temple Beth Am and wondered, who is that woman? Then I found a lot. Her son might be Adam K. Levin, but I need to find a reference. Her husband needs a page, too.Zigzig20s (talk) 16:40, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
You could add the cliff scene (the right one) to the article if you have no other images. It's always nice to have something, though it has to be said that that one is nothing special. Philafrenzy (talk) 16:45, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
Why don't you add the Monet to Commons? It might already be there in fact. I don't know if there is an image of the Degas bankers pastel. It would be the more interesting of the two if there was. Philafrenzy (talk) 17:40, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
I don't fully understand how copyright works beyond giving away the rights on whatever I own. Is this copyrighted btw? Otherwise I may ask my LA-based photographer to take a picture (although we've focused on BH so far).Zigzig20s (talk) 20:14, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
Yes that is copyright because 1) it is recent and 2) the photographer did not give away his rights. I think this would be a good time for you to learn more about this topic. Generally anything two-dimensional (like a painting) is out of copyright 70 years after the creator's death and can be uploaded using a PD-Old licence. Obviously there are all sorts of finer details but you will be safe with Degas and Monet. Go to it! Philafrenzy (talk) 20:22, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
We'll see. I am caught up in the history of LA-based rabbis right now. Hopefully this will lead to long articles about their roles in the movie industry.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:01, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
Hello, the information about the CWM FX site is incorrect. As an employee of the company I'm not eligible to correct the mistakes. Below is a corrected version of the content.
CWM FX is a London based foreign exchange trading company providing retail traders with access to the Forex Market to trade Currency Pairs and CFDs on a Straight Through Processing model. CWM FX is operated by Leverate Financial Services Limited, a Cyprus Investment Firm (CIF) licensed and regulated by the Cyprus Securities and Exchange Commission.[1] CWM FX is also compliant with MiFID (Markets in Financial Instruments Directive) - the European Union law that provides regulation for investment services across the member states of the European Economic Area.
The chief executive of the firm is Craig Droste.[2] The firm is located in the Heron Tower at 110 Bishopsgate, otherwise known as Salesforce Tower.
Sports Sponsorship
The firm is known for its sports sponsorship deals, which include football, rugby, boxing and motorsports. Besides being the "online forex trading partner" of Chelsea Football Club [3] its portfolio of sponsorships also include Wigan Warriors Rugby League, CWM Cyclone boxing promotions, CWM LCR Honda in MotoGPTM, SVR team in the Renault Clio Cup, the Sports Industry Breakfast Club and the sponsorship of the Outstanding Contribution to Sport Award in 2015.
Sport Industry Group
In February 2015 Sport Industry Group has announced CWM FX as the title sponsor of the Sport Industry Breakfast Club, becoming the “Sport Industry Breakfast Club, powered by CWM FX”. As part of the partnership, CWM FX will also sponsor the Outstanding Contribution to Sport Award in 2015.
London Boat Show
In November 2014 it was announced that CWM FX had become the title sponsor for the London Boat Show and from 2015 the show would be known as the CWM FX London Boat Show.[5][6]
Charity
The company is also known by its involvement with charities, especially related to fight against cancer. In 2014 CWM FX had a helmet signed by 12 MotoGP™ stars and put in auction. The helmet made a record-breaking €255,000 (£200,000) and all proceeds went to AECC (Spanish Association against Cancer) and Riders for Health. Also in 2014 CWM FX donated 10,000£ to the Andrew Simpson Sailing Foundation during the CWM FX London Boat Show.
The only important part of this that differs seems to be the name of the CEO. Please add future messages to the talk page of the article. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:57, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
Revised to make clear that there are two executives there (though it is not clear from the firm's website who is actually the CEO). Philafrenzy (talk) 12:21, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Possibly, as soon as it is in mainspace. Nice to see that "Despite being a woman, his mother graduated from the University of Southern California"! Philafrenzy (talk) 09:32, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
I meant for the time lol. Unfortunately I don't know his mother's name. She might be prominent. I will move both his and his wife's pages, hang on.Zigzig20s (talk) 12:52, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
I thought it was little a collector with such a famous collection; it is mostly philatelic. More personal life stuff would be good if you can find anything else. Otherwise I will just put it up as it is. ww2censor (talk) 14:56, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
I added a little, including the firm that he was mainly associated with. That may provide leads for his non-philatelic life. Apart from that, most of the information I have is also philatelic but I will take a further look in due course. Philafrenzy (talk) 01:04, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the input. It is now in mainspace at Kanai Hiroyuki. I was unable to find anything based on the company name you provided.
Cycled past John Tweed's blue plaque today. Rare example of someone with a blue plaque but until ten minutes ago, no article. Would you like to collaborate towards a DYK (we've not done that in a while)? I will add a better plaque photo tomorrow. Edwardx (talk) 00:25, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Certainly. I did a photo tour on foot of Monken Hadley earlier (where people with real money live) and have a camera full of fine houses and plaques including Livingstone Cottage, home of Dr. David Livingstone. Trying to remember to take my camera everywhere. Philafrenzy (talk) 00:32, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Are you sure it was Dr Livingstone's house, or do you just presume that to be so? I have 100s, probably 1000s of photos still to upload. It can all get out of hand. Edwardx (talk) 09:07, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Don't worry, even if I expand the article 100,000 times, some memory of your original article will continue to have an effect. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:51, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Everything is to my taste, that is the problem. Interesting article. I may register myself as a freeport and go tax free by only leaving through the back door. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:36, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
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That accounts for the wasted hour looking for an article in today's edition. I think yesterday's is here somewhere... Edwardx (talk) 18:50, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
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Hi. I see you create/edit a lot of painters. Are you interested in helping me expand this draft so that it can be moved to a proper article? I'd like it to be a start at least. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:57, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
He's actually Frank, not Franklin. I'll have to be careful when I move it. I've added a bit more, but not enough. Not sure if we could add some of his paintings through fair use as well. You seem to know how to do that!Zigzig20s (talk) 01:38, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
We may be able to work together often if you are interested in creating/editing pages of painters/artists at Sotheby's/Christie's/Bonhams auctions in London.Zigzig20s (talk) 12:23, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
I meant Tift and Brown. I'd like them both to be strong enough to move them to proper article space and not get deleted.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:24, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
Hello again. I have moved Tift's userpage to Andrew Tift. Feel free to expand it. I am not sure I have enough on Dexter Brown to move it yet. Btw, I created User:Zigzig20s/Severyn Ashkenazy and apparently he and his brother, Arnold Ashkenazy, own a lot of paintings, including some originals by Van Gogh and others. Their father was an art collector in Poland/Ukraine before WWII as well. I thought he would just be a hotelier/philanthropist when I started the userpage! Are you able to/interested in helping me unmesh all of this in terms of provenance please? I wonder if any of their paintings are now in some museums, or just in private collections. I also can't find anything about their father, which is strange for someone who owned so many paintings! Their father's art collection was looted by the Nazis, so you may find this interesting.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:18, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Don't think that one was in the Telegraph either - possibly too many stockbrokers died that day and filled up the page. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:33, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
I'm working my way through the Indie ones, reverse chronologically. At least ten pages, but no idea if there is an obit search facility on any of the newspaper sites. Edwardx (talk) 15:16, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Search it as you would any big text site. "Term" site:independent.co.uk etc You could mess around with dates/terms. You probably know this, sorry for being so patronising! Gareth E Kegg (talk) 18:35, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks to our good friends at Waitrose, I do. Would you like me to scan and email you a copy? Lots of canvassers yesterday evening in RBKC - apparently the two biggest issues are basement excavations and the mansion tax. Edwardx (talk) 09:31, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Yes please. Agents are usually pretentious nobodies, so I would like to make sure he was a somebody. Btw, I did not see them. This is a very poorly run campaign imo.Zigzig20s (talk) 09:43, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
The revolution starts here! An Englishman's basement is his castle. I recently walked past some actual mansions to the north of me. An Alsatian guard dog barked at me when I poked my camera through the railings to take a picture. He could smell that I wasn't rich enough to be there. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:51, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
There's a lot of drama over basements in Bel Air, Los Angeles. One story down is fine, but four or five is a bit creepy IMO. I hate dogs and think they should be banned from Hyde Park; replaced by peacocks perhaps. Peacocks and seahorses are the only socially acceptable pets to love and cherish!Zigzig20s (talk) 13:24, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Don't let UKIP hear you saying that, the peacock and seahorse are both immigrants to the UK. I understand that the European Union plan to send millions of unemployed peacocks here to steal our women and live off social security. Philafrenzy (talk) 14:00, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
I assume you are referring to the Carroll Group. Someone clearly lost a lot of money when they went out of business and has been waging a campaign of vengeance ever since. I think it is probably all conspiracy theory nonsense but I found a couple of reliable sources among the dross that justify a stub. Philafrenzy (talk) 17:06, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
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Hi. I'd appreciate it if you wanted to proofread Lee M. Amaitis and see if you can add more about his London career or expand the Vegas dealings. The subsidiary should probably have its own page, but that's quite a bit of work. I hope you find this interesting (funny what one may find out after taking a simple picture on an afternoon stroll in Mayfair...).Zigzig20s (talk) 22:47, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
I have just had a quick look. Nice article. According to the MOS we don't capitalise the first letter of titles like Chairman etc., though we do capitalise CEO etc. I removed a few. (Personally I think we should but that is irrelevant) Also you have some overlinking there with London and New York. Generally, there's no need to link capital cities and well known places unless they are particularly relevant to the article. I do link lesser known villages and similar small places. Also, try to avoid linking in the style of London, England, United Kingdom etc. Philafrenzy (talk) 16:25, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
I think there would be more to add about the subsidiary he's CEO of, but I'm not sure how much information is available out there. Perhaps you could find out more. There is a dearth of information about the gambling industry as a serious business on Wikipedia--people think it is just about entertainment as opposed to finance.Zigzig20s (talk) 13:01, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
There is a dearth of everything here. It's all the knowledge in the world vs. a few thousand contributors. I will see what I can do but keeping business articles up to date is really beyond the resources we have available to us. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:08, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
