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Purple. BlueThank you for the wonderful additions. Ebikeguy (talk) 02:06, 21 February 2011 (UTC) My appreciation for help and guidance from veteran fellow Wikipedians
Thank you! Best wishes and happy editing, PhGustaf (talk) 01:33, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
PhGustaf, I didn't think a day or two to reply was inattentive at all; we're not 24 hours Wikipedians. Thank you for helping in all the ways you can. And if you hear of who among programmers of Wikipedia or those brainstorming future policy for greater multilinguality in harnessing resources, especially those already within the Wikipediac fold such as in Wikimedia, are working, do keep me in mind to let me know! And best of luck in all your endeavors, here and elsewhere. Warmest regards PhGustaf, Pandelver (talk) 04:55, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
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WikiCup 2013 February newsletterRound 1 is now over. The top 64 scorers have progressed to round 2, where they have been randomly split into eight pools of eight. At the end of April, the top two from each pool, as well as the 16 highest scorers from those remaining, will progress to round 3. Commiserations to those eliminated; if you're interested in still being involved in the WikiCup, able and willing reviewers will always be needed, and if you're interested in getting involved with other collaborative projects, take a look at the WikiWomen's Month discussed below. Round 1 saw 21 competitors with over 100 points, which is fantastic; that suggests that this year's competition is going to be highly competative. Our lower scores indicate this, too: A score of 19 was required to reach round 2, which was significantly higher than the 11 points required in 2012 and 8 points required in 2011. The score needed to reach round 3 will be higher, and may depend on pool groupings. In 2011, 41 points secured a round 3 place, while in 2012, 65 was needed. Our top three scorers in round 1 were:
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Featured topics have still played no part in this year's competition, but once again, a curious contribution has been offered by March sees the WikiWomen's History Month, a series of collaborative efforts to aid the women's history WikiProject to coincide with Women's History Month and International Women's Day. A number of WikiCup participants have already started to take part. The project has a to-do list of articles needing work on the topic of women's history. Those interested in helping out with the project can find articles in need of attention there, or, alternatively, add articles to the list. Those interested in collaborating on articles on women's history are also welcome to use the WikiCup talk page to find others willing to lend a helping hand. Another collaboration currently running is an an effort from WikiCup participants to coordinate a number of Easter-themed did you know articles. Contributions are welcome! A few final administrative issues. From now on, submission pages will need only a link to the article and a link to the nomination page, or, in the case of good article reviews, a link to the review only. See your submissions' page for details. This will hopefully make updating submission pages a little less tedious. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) J Milburn (talk) 01:06, 1 March 2013 (UTC) The Signpost: 04 March 2013
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Disambiguation link notification for August 21Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited Chasing the dragon, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page British. Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject. It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot (talk) 08:59, 21 August 2014 (UTC) Yes, this link was intended. Thank you, too. Disambiguation pages often include substantive Wikipedia encyclopedic information as well as mere link lists, especially in their first paragraphs and any summary descriptions provided for items in their lists. Pandelver (talk) 17:18, 26 August 2014 (UTC) DingoesWhile experts seem to agree that Australian dingoes and NGSDs are wild true dogs, can we be so confident about all Canis lupus dingo? The Thai dog seems to be just an ordinary street dog, even though experts class them as C.l. dingo based on their skull shapes and so on. Chrisrus (talk) 14:32, 16 July 2015 (UTC) Ah, we are surely in agreement here, Chrisrus: You point out a Venn diagram kind of subsets untidiness as well as, shifting those subsets, potential overlap (with changing domicile venue) over time messiness. In this case, (C l. dingo set) contains those which are (true wild dog subsets) and may also contain (Thai dingo/dog as another subset which may not (some or all) be simultaneously a member of the (true wild dog subset)) though its members may originate with members of (true wild dog subset within C. l. dingo set) or its members may move, through feral to long-term 'naturalized wildering ->attributed nativity' wildness as a matter of either human popular, conventional, or strict evolutionary parsing by geoduration, behavioral, epignetic, physio-anatomical distinctiveness. . . you join a human domicile quickly, but when are you or your descendants wild again if you leave one, eh? I suspect what you point out does get ambiguously used in what this article has been calling 'expert' reference: C. l. d. is recognized in comparison with f. as 'true' 'wild', but yes a few have become home friends, comensals, adopted family or captives or bred by humans, and in a moment's context we may wish to know whether we are saying they are part of the subspecies which is 'wild' in general tax or are leaving or have left that subset, or rather, which meaning is being used by the subset name. If you'd like to add something about the situation of the historical or present Thai population in this regard, mention them and any other varieties you consider borderline or ambiguous cases and qualify the TWD set in relation to the C. l. d. set and subsets in this article, please go right ahead. And since, of the 3 dogs currently listed in the Thai Dog disambiguation page, only the dingo does not have its own page, while the other two are at the same tax level, did you want to be the one to create and fill that out better, including more of the relevant attributes and history surrounding what you point out, so it does not only continue as a subheading under other articles, its largest text (and are there photos anywhere yet?) being under the C. l. d. article, Chrisrus? Pandelver (talk) 06:33, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
Yes indeed. Austro-Asian-etal humans "taking their dogs with them" continues AFAIK to be the general assumption, and usually made because of swimming distances imagined as an alternative. Away from Corbett, there's mtDNA and related digging just begun really, not only in the species but regarding plate tectonic timings, so perhaps for a few years we shouldn't expect much more pith to be revealed yet out of what can eventually be sleuthed after-the-fact where canid migrations antedating these human groups is still in the pot being kept open as earlier radiation of both dingo and familiaris have been asserted in recent years. So as for 'getting this straight', in our conversation together we prolly already were fairly so. What would you like to do as editor, then? And hope you received my friendly heads up and inquiry on your page? Pandelver (talk) 06:33, 17 July 2015 (UTC) btw, when you tell the story of stay-at-home Thai dogs being the untraveled, unchanged-by-new-circumstances-pressure-on-evolution pre-dingoes, you are prolly suggesting the reverse to the path you ascribe to Corbett as assuming 'famous dingo is in AU' so 'Thai must have come from near THERE' - you are suggesting that dingoness might first be evolved in the stay-at-home mainland/coastal/near island landraces which the farther dingoes then resemble as descendants, and maybe with the features we have come to consider dingo emphasized in their modifications! Pandelver (talk) 06:51, 17 July 2015 (UTC) and oh, sharing your amusement about what Thai animal vendor handled Corbett's first examined specimens, did Corbett say they were tasty, or recommend recipes among the local repertoire? Pandelver (talk) 06:54, 17 July 2015 (UTC) NGSDs may have sampled good recipes for cooked or prepared human, courtesy of human tribes,as they aren't known for eating any raw, I'm also curious, even if it's less likely, if through his examination of digestion and by other means, if Corbett found good recipes for humans among Thai dingoes!. Pandelver (talk) 02:59, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
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You have substituted the phrase 'St. Cloud' for 'St. Paul' in speaking to me, and 'St. Paul' does not lead to a DA page. Fortunately, these 3 were properly intended, and the other 1 you imagine doesn't exist. You are already free to create such links yourself! You do me and all of us the service of pointing out where a name or geo reference only leads to a DA page, and I have acted upon that to sharpen 2 of these links to specific articles which I then found listed on those DA pages. We shall leave 1 DA link as is, since the institution we are mentioning is listed on that DA page but does not have its own page yet, so the DA page is the best home to visit for tea at W at present. May I make you a cup, would you like that? It's OK to leave me messages in your confusion in the sense that I am commpassionate about your psychosis, "it's nothing, just little stuff." Grow and be incredible in many wonderful ways, bot! 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With regard to etymology sections on Buddhist articles, you should observe caution and use real sources, preferably books and journals. Just so you know, many of the previous etymology sections (some but not all of them now removed) were written by a now-banned user, using flimsy sources and doing what amounted to original research, very much like you are doing. That editor is no longer welcome here. Best not make yourself similarly unwelcome by looking like a duck. Using proper sourcing and avoiding synthesis would definitely make you look less like a duck. Skyerise (talk) 17:59, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
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From HistoryOfIran talk page: Just a note that since software function in its work (translation here) is governed by ownership or licensing, so in the OP's case of Google translate, Google as operative owner of Google translate will technically have a layer of copyright in its output (the translations) too; if you translate on a different site than mega Metro (Google), the programmers and the site owner and owner's rights may be different too, so who has the layer or if it is multiple layers of copyright may not be immediately obvious. All this while we have not yet technologically progressed to where the recipient (even behind the eyes of a photonic viewer of a text, be that you or a camera or scanner) will later be acknowledged as capturing a derivative version, not a pure copy of what was perceived (think how musical notes get played and then heard differently). . . but that higher detail and its scrutiny only arrive tomorrow, likely in many of our lifetimes. Wikimedia already deals with photos of paintings, but with word translations which are always choices of synonyms and different connotations, not just denotations, in contexts, what is understood as a meaning from one layer to the next, and also gets transmitted, shared, reinterpreted in conveyance to others, in future even more without change in media than passing a printout or a site page today, are going to be a more detailed question. Bear in mind, copyright is a relatively modern invention, and infamously China's modernization leaped from ignoring it as an issue bothering them from nations where it had status, while convenient for China, to its desire to now be a leader, not just an equal, in global principles so just as with environmental policy for our common future, and because copyright is wished for its own entities viz a viz the rest of the world, China's tune has drastically changed. In the old days which yesterday China used as its ethics, even having a long printing history, repetition of another author was a compliment. Around the world, before the idea of copyright, creators amd inventors who did not automatically reap rewards, or potential title to them, through copyright, was revered because what they did benefited everyone. Potentially right away. So human use of this concept evolves, and in the early 21st century we are merely at a midpoint it its development. Pandelver (talk) 18:07, 31 December 2022 (UTC) From Diannaa talk page: Hello Diannaa. Hope you're doing well. I'm having a bit of a brain fart over here. Say I translated a French Wikipedia article into its English version. That wouldn't be considered a violation of copyright, since the words in that French article is already rewritten? In other words, if I add that translation template thingy on the talk page of the article I put the translated stuff in, I should be good, right? HistoryofIran (talk) 23:48, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
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