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Simon Sinas

I have to disagree with the lead section of him being presented as "Austrian banker & benefactor". I have the feeling he had Greek citizenship and was ambassador of Greece in Austria.Alexikoua (talk) 20:56, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Alexikoua, the reason that it is Austrian is because he was born in Austria, that's what the current source says. Please feel free to modify it and add a source that describes his citizenship. Meanwhile I'll conduct a research to find more sources in order to enrich the article. I will let you know as soon I have a considerable amount. Nikolaus Dumba is important article to enrich as well. Thanks Othon I (talk) 21:42, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Arbanitai

Hi. I noticed your discussion with Future Perfect at Sunrise about Arbanitai (link) and it reminded me at another discussion on related topics (link). At that discussion, I presented a prime grade secondary source which clearly emphasized that "Albania" in the Middle Ages is a geographic concept to which no associations should come up with a political entity or a particular culture. That is why it is recommended to make clear distinction between medieval toponym and demonym on one side and modern entity and ethnicity/culture on another.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 10:10, 6 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thank you very much for your comment I will bear it mind. This is what I was trying to explain to Future Perferct on Sunrise but he doesn't seem to share a same view. In the source that I provided to him from an expert on the field it is shown that the people have been called at that time Arbanitai and not Albanians but he refuses it. I understand that the came from the geographical location that modern Albania is but the name Albania wasn't on use in that region at that time. Instead Theme of Dyrrachium and Arvanon was. I can happily endorse to this proposition and support it. Othon I (talk) 15:44, 6 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am afraid that in cases like this sources mean nothing. Some editor can always say "You are confusing words with the concepts they stand for." That sentence is actually the perfect way to start year 2017 taking in consideration that posttruth is word of 2016 year per Oxford dictionaries.

Many Balkan nationalistic mythologies have its roots in misidentification of medieval toponym and demonym on one side and modern entity and ethnicity/culture on another. The first article I wrote on wikipedia is Nationalization of history. Knowing the ropes here for seven years, I can conclude that almost every Balkan nationalistic mythology have a small group of editors here who actively support it. Since this topic area does not attract too much outside attention, they usually easily get away with their actions. I think that promotion of pro-Foo nationalistic mythology should not be confused with pro-Fooianism, because it is actually one of the most anti-Foo activities somebody could undertake. To conclude - in case of Albania there is zero chance to make clear distinction between medieval toponym and demonym on one side and modern entity and ethnicity/culture on another.

Thank you for your support and I wish you all the best in postfactual world of year 2017.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:47, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Benizelos family

Hello, Othon I,

I'm not sure why but you are moving this article around to 5 or 6 different locations. This is disruptive editing. If you are working on this article, work on it in Draft space or your Sandbox. If you believe it is in good enough shape to be reviewed by the New Page Patrollers, please leave it in main space. But these constant moves have to end. Liz ^Read! Talk! 01:26, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Good morning @Liz:, Thank you for your comment and my apologies. I have finished working on the article and I wanted to submit it however, I accidentally moved it from my sandbox and I tried to move it back. I understand that it is disruptive, but was not intentional. I was planning to use the article wizard because it is the first article that I have created and I would like to be reviewed indeed. So should I leave it as is now or use the wizard? Othon I (talk) 07:10, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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