User talk:Orderinchaos/Archive 07Archive : July 2007 Re "Warning"Your buddy User:Thewinchester made the knowingly false claim that "Additionally, you once again fail to assume good faith and accuse another user of having undertaking a concerted campaign of deleting school articles, and you do so with no basis or justification." There is absolutely nothing I said before or after that can be misinterpreted to mean this. Your "Warning" left on my talk page provides no evidence of incivility, whatsoever. If there is some specific aspect that you feel is uncivil, you need to be far more specific. I would strongly suggest making a far more specific warning to your User:Thewinchester who seems again to be trying to instigate a problem using false accusations, as he has boasted in the past. You know full well of his past incivility problems. Alansohn 05:40, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Census templatesThanks very much for your work (much appreciated!) on the census templates, its timely because I've come across a few articles with dodgy updated census figures, so it's good to be able to easily put a link in to the correct figure that anyone can thereafter easily check with one mouse click. BTW I've just noticed that Hamersley after ref 57 has gone out of synch somewhere, might leave that one to you as it looks like a bit of a minefield :)--Melburnian 11:21, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks from me for the cleanup of the dead ABS links. The ABS template is quite useful in tidying up the references as well. Also, I have replied to your comment on the Riverina article talk page. -- Mattinbgn/ talk 23:35, 2 July 2007 (UTC) Just to let you know - Michellecrisp has made massive changes to the Hammersley article. As it is a Featured Article and was done without discussion, I reverted it, but as you were instrumental in getting that to FA status I thought you should know that this has been happening. She seems to have different ideas about what should be included in an article and has deleted a lot of content without discussion on other pages. I believe they are in good faith but as Wikipedia is not paper most of the things she deleted are acceptable content for Wikipedia. JRG 03:09, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Hamersley, Western Australia has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:07, 8 July 2007 (UTC) TWI think threatening to block was a bit much, but so was the l3 warning. My net cafe visits are becoming more and more like watching a bad soap opera that I can at times participate in :) Orderinchaos 02:04, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Thuringowa editsHi hope your having a great holiday....thanks for your info this will be a great help as now i will be able to get back all my hard work (not that i will be putting it all back on the page yet) thanks again Thuringowacityrep 09:56, 8 July 2007 (UTC) thanksThanks for your comments. As I said I'm committed to making this and other articles better. So whatever the outcome of the FA review, I will accept. Michellecrisp 03:10, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Flora IDsI'm up to nearly 700 photos on my trip, after I get back on Thursday we can have fun trying to identify all the flora I photographed (most of it will probably be pretty easy) Orderinchaos 03:35, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Good Bloke Award
LakesRe: Bibra Lake and Lake Clifton, if you think they are better off as redirects to the suburb/town rather than substubs on the lakes with a {{for}} tagline, you only need to overwrite the article with a redirect (or revert to a previous version that was a redirect), leaving the substub in the article history. How come you speedied them before redirecting? Hesperian 06:54, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Well, I was looking for a prettier way to do this, but I'm not very artistic, so I'll just say thank you for your support in my RfA, which was closed as successful. I look forward to serving the community in a new way. By the way, you rock! -- But|seriously|folks 08:44, 12 July 2007 (UTC) More teasingPicking on OIC is flavour of the week, lucky you. When you've got a spare moment, would you mind reviewing your rating of Members of the Western Australian Legislative Council, 1832-1870. You rated it a stub, whereas I would have put it, um, maybe a smidgen short of featured list. ;-) Hesperian 13:30, 12 July 2007 (UTC) CatMost projects have holes/loose threads when it comes to cats - tell me about it. If someone can fix the oz one - greaat. giggy needs checking on saying sub projects do not go with cats - I have left suitable advice on his talk page - assuming I understood its comments. It gives me the creeps about some aspects of this - of which no doubt you will get a 13th friday gmail in screeching owl form - there is no welcome back to the big smiling smoke here - you might get it in the mail ... :| SatuSuro 00:55, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
New projectAnd may all who sail in her not get too drunk, hic SatuSuro 10:18, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
KevHe doesn't appear to be in my Who's Who, are you sure he is a real or notable person? Fred ☻ 01:07, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Still the same day and he invokes (order that is) worldwide conspiracies like that?What about the end of the world? - nah check the refs at brearley - it needs close attnetion by someone SatuSuro 11:03, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
NobutoraTakedaI haven't even done anything to his user page. Your comment was unnecessary. NobutoraTakeda 16:37, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
And which number does it fall under? There is only one thing that you said, that it was "random numbers" and it is blatantly not random or anything close to random. You can't just accuse me of things without proof. You think I vandalized, report it and we will see. If not, I will report you for accusing me of things that aren't true. NobutoraTakeda 17:39, 17 July 2007 (UTC) I suggest you read WP:HARASS. You accuse me of breaking rules without proof. Either you can apologize and drop this or you can put up which number on the vandalism chart that I violated with clear evidence that your interpretation is what it means. If you chose to instead act rudely as you are doing right now, I will complain. NobutoraTakeda 17:45, 17 July 2007 (UTC) ThewinchesterChime out please. You are clearly just entering the argument to stick up for a friend and your comments are unwelcome, unwanted and irrelevant to the issue at hand. Until you are better aware of the issue being debated, please don't comment.Sammy lightfoot 20:20, 17 July 2007 (UTC) Article NotabilityI put up this article on Oscar (Pet Rock) thats planned to be traded up for a vehicle for kids with special medical needs. It's received wide publicity here in Queensland, but not sure about the rest of Australia. It's a similar idea to one red paperclip and so has received media interest in Canada also (where the idea first started) because of that. Maybe the article is pre-mature, as it now has a borderline notability tag. It is a unusual type of article, but it does have some importance, specially with the publicity its been receiving. Let me know your thoughts, otherwise it may as well be deleted for being too trival. Boylo 10:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC) WP Lake MacquarieHi OIC - thanks for the notice. I myself nominated this Project for deletion about a year ago but the nomination resulted in the WikiProject being kept mainly because of the list of suburbs, etc. contained within the project pages. While I have no problems with this being deleted, I would like to see a WikiProject on the Hunter region created, especially as Newcastle is the second-largest city in Australia that is not a capital city, but I'm happy to create that in the future from scratch if need be. However, before deleting this I think you should ask the Newcastle meetup crew (personal talk page messages might be the best way to go) and others who have expressed interest in Newcastle-related issues on that page, who may have an opinion about expanding the project or having it deleted. A WikiProject New South Wales is an excellent idea, though, and may spur non-Sydney editors to do some work on articles outside the Sydney region. JRG 10:09, 14 July 2007 (UTC) ThanksThanks for your support and note. When you get your plant photos uploaded, drop me a line, and I'll have a got at the IDs (besides I get to see WA flora without spending a fortune on airfares :) ) --Melburnian 01:29, 17 July 2007 (UTC) View commentsI hope you can take your time in viewing my comments here Your opinion in this will be helpful. --Siva1979Talk to me 08:56, 17 July 2007 (UTC) Census templateyou certainly lived up to your name this morning! WikiTownsvillian 23:10, 17 July 2007 (UTC) IndeedIt's not the sort of diff one would like to see quoted in some RfC down the track. :| Orderinchaos 04:49, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Potters HouseHi there, I noticed you had some previous contact with Potters House related articles. I've been working on trying to improve the main however in my wonderings I found several or more other Potters House articles basically they have been in groups such as leader/church/fellowship. Anyhow I'm currently discussing the deletion of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potters_House_Christian_Centre_Walthamstow since this offers no new information than that of what the main can explain: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potter%27s_House_Christian_Fellowship If you have any spare time could you offer some helpful advice, since there is potential for the same user to create branch articles all over the place. Thanks heaps.Darrenss 11:09, 19 July 2007 (UTC) The truth is that my page got deleted while I was away. It is almost impossible to re-establish the user name I once had. Darren seems to think I was banned, but my page was deleted because I put links on the page, just as he has done. Darren is a former Potter's House member. If you look at his history you will see that HE is the one harrassing. He is only on Wikipedia to harras Potter's House members and to slander the church, as his history clearly shows. He claims I am vandalising his page. I was just deleting the poor quality/slanderous links he has been warned of puting on wiki. I can't understand why my userpage was deleted, while his is not, he has links on his page as well. His slandrous links go to groups claiming that I am a homosexual, have left the church, and desire to have sex with the church leaders. They have made slanderous films on You Tube about me also. Just Type in Nick Sayers. So Although I was banned if you look at my contribs, I was actually contrinbuting to wiki not just cutting people down, putting up stupid links and deleting the hard work of others like Darren Smith does. Nick. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.183.227.185 (talk • contribs)
So how come he can have all types of slandereous links on his wiki page? Don't you think being an admin you should delete them? 124.183.227.185 13:48, 19 July 2007 (UTC) Thanksjust have to work out the damned inability to delete or cut inside the damned thing SatuSuro 05:58, 22 July 2007 (UTC) P-BlockI have made a suggestion on Aurors talk page regarding our Probationary blocks, and was just after the four (involved) WP:WA admins thoughts on it, i would ask you to leave your thoughts on this proposal in that part of the page please. Thank you for taking this into consideration, best wishes. Twenty Years 14:51, 22 July 2007 (UTC) NSW LGA namingI notice that you have recently made a number of changes to NSW LGA names within articles (eg changing "Great Lakes Council" to "Great Lakes Shire"), as well as moving a number of LGA pages (eg "Gloucester Shire Council" to "Gloucester Shire"). As a result several pages and and names within articles are no longer correct. The correct names for NSW LGAs may be found at the NSW Department of Local Government website. These really need to be changed back to what they were.--AussieLegend 19:11, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
"the official name of the *council* (a local government authority) and the official name of the *shire/municipality* (a local government area with gazetted boundaries) are different." No they aren't, at least not in NSW according to the DLG. They are one and the same. The shire/municipality that you would call Dungog Shire has exactly the same official name as the council that administers it. That name is listed by the Department of Local Government as Dungog Shire Council. The same is true for most other "shires" with some obvious exceptions. It's certainly confusing because many people see the council as the administrative body for the LGA. They don't realise that the LGA itself is called a Council. "we're left with the odd situation of having to go with that as it's the most commonly used (and referenceable) name " I'd argue that the better reference would be the DLG website since it lists all LGA names and the NSW government is the superior authority for all councils. If you look at individual LGA websites you'll see that they follow the DLG name and that has nothing to do with the fact that it is the actual council's website. It's because the website is the gateway to that particular region. "Personally, I much prefer the system here in WA where they've kept it nice and simple" The NSW DLG has tried to simplify the naming in NSW. All LGAs became Councils. Where a Council was formerly a shire "Council" was usually just added to the name, apparently to avoid having to reprint stationery. The naming is very self explanatory when you look at a complete list, with only a small number of exceptions. http://www.nsw.gov.au/popular_list.asp?KW=Home+Pages+Local+Government --AussieLegend 14:51, 23 July 2007 (UTC) Re:Couple of TipsThanks for the pointers. The one about edit summary I have alreasdy put into action, and I will refrain from adress objections since I see members of the community are doing that as is. TomStar81 (Talk) 20:24, 23 July 2007 (UTC) If you are going to nominate an article for deletion then you should notify me, as the creator of the article, of your intention to delete it. The reason that I belive that the article is notable is as follows:
Dan arndt 01:12, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Have deleted the notability tag for Sleepy Little Deathtoll Town as I have provided additional information clarifying its notability. Dan arndt 02:41, 25 July 2007 (UTC) Need your commentsHello! I hope you are feeling fine. I would like you to view my comments here. Your advise on this issue would be much appreciated. --Siva1979Talk to me 13:03, 26 July 2007 (UTC) Unusual Adoption RequestHi! Im an English teacher in Toluca Mexico (west of Mexico City). My Advanced B classes will be contributing to Wikipedia as the focus of their English course for Fall 2007. I am looking for people who would like to mentor my students (who will be working in groups) as they do the following assignments: Edit and article (adding a citation), writing a stub with a citation, translating an English language article for Spanish Wikipedia and for the final project, writing a full article for English Wiki (they can expand on the stub mentioned previously). What I would like to do is put a list of "mentors/adopters" on my talk page as a kind of short cut for my students, who have limited time to get things done. The semester begings Aug 6, but the real Wikipedia work wont begin until the beginning of Sept. If you would like to add your name to my list, please go to my talk page and add it there, perhaps with a short introduction, if you like. Thank you! Thelmadatter 20:26, 26 July 2007 (UTC)Thelmadatter
The City of Townsvilleyes it is very interesting, couldn't agree more with every word of it, although it's very unexpected that it is getting rid of the ward system a first past the post voting system will turn our local politics on its head! WikiTownsvillian 08:34, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
City of ThuringowaHi mate thanks for your input...but he clearly said "Location is not a city, either before or after the report" and this in untrue and a really stupid comment of their part, can you please tell me if I am correct in saying, that until after September Thuringowa City is still Thuringowa city, as is Townsville city because I have read a few other reports that say this is what the Gov want to do but it is not 100% going to happen, people are just jumping the gun a bit. thanks again Thuringowacityrep 10:30, 28 July 2007 (UTC) Your Advice is soughtBeing new here I am seeking your advice on this:- As you know I raised the issue of Committees and Patron Associations for parliamentarian's pages on the Australian Politics Discussion page. While there has been a comment on the Patron and I now agree there has been no comment on the committees yet. How long should I leave it:- I have been holding off any other work till I sort out where I have been going wrong, don't want to start creating other MPs if the content is not going to make the grade. For a concensus I have sent this to three people User:Orderinchaos User:Recurring dreams & User:Golden Wattle all of you have guided my Wiki training thus far. AusBrian 07:00, 29 July 2007 (UTC) Rfa adviceThank for for your rfa advice. I have set the "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" box in my prefernces, so far all seems well. And I will exercise more descretion when dealing with oppose votes on rfa's should I be renominated at some point in the future. TomStar81 (Talk) 23:53, 29 July 2007 (UTC) |