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Canadian Singles Chart

Hello! Thanks for your contributions to the Wonder Girls discography page & to "Nobody". Much of the Canadian Singles Chart is unfortunately blocked from the Wayback archive, so it can be hard to find good sources.

You stated in your edit summary of the discography page: "CAN" is reserved for the Canadian Hot 100, which is a completely separate chart from this one. It is indeed a completely separate chart, but I have seen CAN labeling used on similar pages for the Canadian Hot 100, the RPM charts, and the SoundScan chart. The Madonna singles discography page actually sources positions from all three of these charts under the same CAN labeling. I certainly haven't seen the title "CAN Top 20" used, as that was never the chart's name nor is it representative of the history of the chart, which published more than 20 positions at different points. On the song page for "Nobody", you changed the chart title from "Canadian Singles (Nielsen SoundScan)" to "Canada Singles (Nielsen SoundScan)". Again, this is a stylistic choice that I haven't seen and doesn't make much sense to me. The chart title is Canadian Singles and it's already reflected that it is for Nielsen SoundScan specifically. Is there some kind of style guide or rules for these changes that I'm missing? Breaktheicees (talk) 06:44, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

The Madonna example that you mentioned can use "CAN" for the Nielson charts because the standard singles chart in Canada, the Billboard Canadian Hot 100, did not exist during that time. However, as both Nobody and 2 Different Tears charted in 2010 (after the launch of the Canadian Hot 100 in 2007), "CAN" may not be used as readers will assume that it charted on aforementioned chart, when it did not. "CAN Top 20" can be changed to something else though.
On the Nobody article, I changed "Canadian Singles" to "Canada Singles" as charts for singles usually use the country name only (ex. Dynamite, How You Like That, Espresso, etc.), while albums charts usually use demonyms. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 18:42, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Is this just your personal opinion or is there an actual guideline though? Madonna's isn't the only page to use CAN labeling, and I don't see anything that says that it's "reserved" for the Canadian Hot 100 regardless of the charting date. I don't know what else it could be labeled as because as said, "CAN Top 20" is inaccurate. Maybe CAN with (SoundScan) in small lettering if you really want to separate it?
As for the latter, I've looked at some other pages and you are correct, so, my bad there. Breaktheicees (talk) 19:21, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
This is the standard for discography articles, not my "personal opinion". If it is not the standard chart for the country, you may not use the standard chart labelling, which in this case is "CAN". Nevertheless, I think that "CAN Niel." (abbr. for the Canadian Nielson chart) would be better than "CAN Top 20". ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 19:25, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
I was just looking for a documented guideline to follow. You saying that CAN was "reserved" for the Hot 100 made me think there might have been one I was missing, but it appears there isn't. Either way, CAN Niel. works. Thank you. Breaktheicees (talk) 23:41, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

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Singles vs Songs in C-pop

In Taiwan, or even in all Chinese-speaking countries, it is not common for artists to promote albums by releasing singles in the same way that artists in other countries do. Unless the song is not included on any album, Chinese-speaking artists generally promote songs from their albums through music videos. For some artists like Jolin Tsai, she may even go so far as to film music videos for every track on the album. However, those are not considered singles, they are simply for promotional. If you were to call any of those songs a "single", then nearly all of the songs on her album could be classified as singles, which would be unreasonable. This is why I have only listed songs that were independently released as singles, whether in physical or digital form, separately. Additionally, Chinese-language media always mistakenly conflate the concepts of "single" and "song", even though they call it is a "single", it actually is not. Please be kindly advised, and thank you!----Leehsiao (talk) 23:03, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

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