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Dear Aremith, do you think that "pirated" is a legally correct term to be used instead of "illegal copying" or "copyright violation"? Do you really equate those Somalian pirates (who attacked that French yacht) and people who illegally copy windows?
I am sorry, but I cannot agree with you,
Cheers,
Bakken.
Pirating, in the modern sense, refers to copyright infringement (See article Software_piracy) Therefore, a person who commits acts of software piracy is called a pirate. So, yes, I feel that "pirated" is the correct term for the act of commiting copyright infringement. Also, when leaving a message, please create a new section, so that it is easier to find the messages. Also, please sign by either clicking the sign button or typing four tildes (~). --Aremithtlk|eml20:55, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
well, the article is actually called Copyright infringement of software (which is presumably the correct legal term), it is not called "software pirace" (which is a redirection). And the article says that there is an opposition to using the term "pirate" not for armed murderers but for people who illegally copy software. Why can we not use the correct legal term -- "illegal copying" og "copyright infringement"? --85.81.116.15 (talk) 21:27, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
We can use the legal term, "copyright infringement". However, you changed the term "pirated" to "stolen" then to "illegally copied". When referring to software that was obtained through a method of copyright infringement, I believe the term pirated is a tad bit more correct. In this sense, it has nothing to do with historical pirates, it is just a modern term. A word can have more than one definition. Here is the official Oxford dictionary page for the word "pirate" [2]. It shows that the word "pirate" has 3 different definitions, one being "denoting a text, film, recording, etc. that has been reproduced and used for profit without permission". Merriam-Webster has two definitions, at least one referring to copyright infringement: [3]. Also, if you have something to say directly at me, please write it on my talk page. I receive a notification when i receive a new message on my talk page, but I do not watch other talk pages for new comments. Aremithtlk|eml21:37, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Actually it's not "historical" pirates it's modern pirates with assault rifles and grenade launchers. And if you seem to admit that the software thieves have nothing to do with the pirates, why call them the same name? Just because some other people do? That's not a good excuse, I believe! Millions of people call your terrorists "freedom fighters" (and the other way around) but you probably take a side and call them terrorists (or freedom fighters) right? --85.81.116.15 (talk) 07:19, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
No, it's because every single dictionary in the world has the term pirates referring to pirating as the act of copyright infringement. I gave you links to both the Oxford and Merriam-Webster dictionaries. Those are the two most trusted dictionaries in the world. If they have it, it's a sure sign that it's the correct term. Also, Microsoft uses it in its WGA prompts, so even large corporations use it. I don't care if they're modern or historical pirates. The term "pirate" refers to people who perform acts of copyright infringement. Also, your comparison between pirates and the whole terrorist/freedom fighters thing is seriously flawed. As I've said before major dictionaries have the term pirating defined as copyright infringement. If you don't agree with that, you are free to contact them. Aremithtlk|eml00:22, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
"every single dictionary in the world" -- this is certainly not true. For example, 1) Russian "пират" at jandex.ru dictionary; 2) Danish "pirat" at ordbogen.com dictionary; -- both give only one meaning -- sea-robber. You are free to promote Microsoft's views, that's your choice, but please, do not do it in Wikipedia. Wikipedia is supposed to be neutral. Calling illegal copiers "pirates" is not neutral. Again, an argument, that if Microsoft is doing something, than it must be acceptable, is not just flawed, it is completely wrong, as shown by numerous court decisions in different countries. 85.81.116.15 (talk) 18:31, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
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I agree that the two terms share the same word. However, there is a section marked Etymology near the bottom of the article that states what the word "Navy" came from. Your addition did not belong there when there is already a section marked etymology. Also, please sign your comments next time by typing four tildes (~). Thanks. Aremithtlk|eml00:17, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
