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Sir, you changed protection level of Jat people in April 2016. Kindly reconsider the protection level of the article so as to invite more and more constructive edits. -Slathuri (talk) 14:17, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
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Recent changes
Word-level diffs now work in longer paragraphs. [1]
Interactive maps now have a frame by default. This is to make them look like other multimedia objects. This affects all Wikivoyages, the Catalan, Hebrew, Macedonian Wikipedias and Meta. [2]
When you preview the MediaWiki:Captcha-ip-whitelist page it will show a validation output of the listed IP addresses instead of the list of addresses only. This can help you to identify if your whitelist rules will work or not. [3]
Changes this week
You will be able to use <maplink> on all Wikipedias. It creates a link to a full screen map. [4][5]
Sometimes when you mention another user they don't get a notification. You will be able to get a notification when you successfully send out a mention to someone or be told if they did not get a notification. This will be opt-in. [6][7]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 September. It will be on all wikis from 8 September (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 6 September at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
@Hawkeye7: Well for starters, it should show 500 pages and not 200. I can fix that soon, but also I hope to add a "pagination" sort of feature, where you can then run on the next batch of 500 pages. I've created phab:T144760 for this. The 500-page restriction per run is there because of performance issues on the backend, see phab:T124314 for info. Once that's resolved, we should be able to run the tool on any number of pages, but it's unclear when this will happen. So in short, I should be able to add a workaround allowing you to get data on all 941 pages. Best — MusikAnimaltalk17:02, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the really cool tool! I do have a suggestion to make: for some reason, the tool doesn't work fully when the UI is in a language other than English (the shortcuts to the noticeboards work fine, but not the templated reasons). It isn't a big problem whatsoever (after all, if a person is an admin on enwiki, their English proficiency should necessarily be good!), but if this takes the most minimal of efforts to fix, it would be great if you could :) . Cheers, MikeLynch (talk) 16:00, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
Personally, not just in regard to WarMachine, I'm getting really tired of people being allowed to harass others and get away with it for longer than they should. But hey, that's just me. lol. (talk page stalker)CrashUnderride15:28, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
@WarMachineWildThing: I think there's too much collateral damage for a /24 rangeblock. I've semied your page for four days and blocked the latest IP for two weeks. If they show up anywhere, grab an admin or report to AIV, pointing to this block and citing block evasion. --NeilNtalk to me02:12, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi! Great idea and tool. Maybe you would consider add option to group scripts? Like "gropu1":{'script1','script2'},'group2':{'script1','script2'} etc. Not very important, but useful to have let's say editing scripts in one group, admin scripts in second group etc. Don't have ideas on visual "output". --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 12:47, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
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@MusikAnimal: I noticed edits by IP addresses which were made after the ARB movement which had sat there for months without being reverted! I figured page protection was the easiest way to fix the poor enforcement issue! A User (contribs) 01:20, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
Also, it's not a "blanket 'you can't edit this page' game"! Like it or not, it's an OFFICIAL ARBCOM DECISION which explicitly states the following:
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All IP editors, accounts with fewer than 500 edits, and accounts with less than 30 days tenure are prohibited from editing any page that could be reasonably construed as being related to the Arab-Israeli conflict. This prohibition may be enforced by reverts, page protections, blocks, the use of pending changes, and appropriate edit filters.
@Yet Another User 2: I'm very aware of the ArbCom decision, thank you. You, as a patroller, per se, still aren't required to revert any and all edits effected by the decision. Like I said, if someone decides to, I won't argue with them. I'm going to refrain from going on a tangent, but in short, you should use your judgement. Ignore all rules... Based on evidence, Is protecting this article actually preventing disruption? Is reverting an edit made by a non-EC user a good idea if it was otherwise constructive? Put the encyclopedia first. The rules are there to prevent disruption, not to prevent progress. — MusikAnimaltalk03:04, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
@Kudpung: Works for me? I'm not sure why you keep having trouble with it. I will say, due to the poor implementation and other environmental implications, the tools do go down occasionally, but they are automatically rebooted within minutes if this happens — MusikAnimaltalk17:04, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
I've since got it to work. AS I'm practically the only editor on en.Wiki working out of Thailand, I'm beginning to think it's a connectivity issue. Although most US and European sites load very quickly, Wikimedia sites are very slow and often time out or load without the CSS. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 21:29, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
That could be it. I think English Wikipedia itself should be pretty snappy, but as I understand it Tool Labs is hosted in Virginia so you may experience some lag. You also have 75,000+ edits, which takes a while to process :) — MusikAnimaltalk21:36, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
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Recent changes
The Wikimedia Commons app for Android can now show nearby places that need photos. [9]
The RevisionSlider will be available as a beta feature on all wikis from 13 September. This will make it easier to navigate between diffs in the page history. [12]
A new user right will allow most users to change the content model of pages. [13][14]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 September. It will be on all wikis from 15 September (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 13 September at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
When you search on the Wikimedia wikis in the future you could see results from sister projects in your language. You can read more and discuss how this could work.
Hello! First, thanks for your work with pageviews it is awesome! I was thinking of uploading one of those graphs to Commons, but was unsure of wich license would apply. Could you please give some advice? Ainali (talk) 06:47, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
@Ainali: Thanks! I've uploaded one of my own at File:Screenshot of Pageviews tool.png under CC-BY-SA 4.0. You may use the same license. The code is released under the MIT License, but that doesn't really apply to interface, I don't think... Also the interface is very generic so probably doesn't even qualify for copyright. The chart uses the Chart.js library, and their licensing also only appears to apply to the codebase. A link in the description to toollabs:pageviews would be nice, but that's about the only thing I'd ask for :)Also, mind you if all you need is the chart itself, you can select "PNG" from the "Download" menu in Pageviews, as opposed to creating a screenshot yourself. This also gives the image a transparent background. Best — MusikAnimaltalk19:48, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
No problem. And thanks to Jo-Jo for their insight. I'm not sure the formal way to approach this... I don't want anyone copying the interface "selection and arrangement" without proper attribution, as you say, but only in the sense of creating a new tool. I don't mind screenshots. The visual layout I suppose is inherently copyrighted because it is defined in the codebase... and I realize Commons is not MIT-compatible, but as the author I'm giving verbal consent to upload any imagery of the tool. Perhaps I should put this in the FAQ and/or documentation— MusikAnimaltalk20:04, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
Is the MIT license you mention commons:Template:MIT? In that case it would be compatible but software copyright licenses can be problematic for reusers when applied to images, hence often ill-advised. For attribution, there are a number of free licenses requiring it (the CC-BY license for example), so that may be a place to look at. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:08, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
Hello MusikAnimal. You've blocked this IP in the past, and I've just got a request to look into their behavior. This IP editor is constantly changing chart positions without any apparent sourcing, and has never left a post on article talk or user talk. What would you think of a longer block, say one or two years? EdJohnston (talk) 01:50, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
@EdJohnston: I would go with 6 months or a year, but your call. Definitely warranted. This is a static IP who has exerted the same behaviour for some time, with no sign that they'll change their ways — MusikAnimaltalk17:10, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
Doing this here because I don't want to call big attention to it at VPT. You blocked 78.127.222.52(talk·contribs·WHOIS) last night and disabled TPA. After that, another editor started an ANI thread about a different IP who was doing the same thing (it's the section called 24.141.6.209). A comment was made there that several things needed to be hidden.
So I use popups, and I wanted to make sure everything was hidden that needed to be hidden, and I hovered over the link in the ANI report to the 78.127 IP, and his nasty edit summaries were all there. Being the conscientious little busybody that I am, I came to his contribs to hide that stuff, only to see that you had already done it. So why does popups show them?
The same thing happens in the other IPs listed at the ANI report. I don't know if popups is your thing, but it's a seriously ungood bug that seriously needs to be fixed. Can you file a Phabricator ticket and/or get the right guys on it? I don't even know if anybody works on popups now. Katietalk12:29, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
(talk page stalker)@KrakatoaKatie: If it has been revision-deleted already, I'm pretty sure there is no way for it to access the edit summary, it's probably your browser's cache. Try clearing it with Ctrl-Shift-R. Although since you're an admin it may be able to access deleted summaries through the API or something, not sure if that's the case here. nyuszika7h (talk) 12:35, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, both of you. I hadn't yet gone to the IP's contributions when I used popups, so it couldn't be the cache of a page I hadn't visited. Maybe it is the admin thing that allows me to see it. But that still shouldn't happen. In order to see a hidden diff, we have to manually click through a link, and that goes for edit summaries as well. I'm all for convenience, but I don't care for this. Katietalk12:52, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
Another idea, maybe it's the server-side cache. Perhaps the API was using an older cached response even when the history would have not shown the summary already. nyuszika7h (talk) 12:54, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
@KrakatoaKatie: I actually noticed the same thing! I think Popups uses the API, and since you're authenticated as an admin the edit summaries are visible to you. The native interface however more appropriately makes an indication to you that those revisions are revdel'd, even though you can still see them. This is my theory. There's probably a way to tell that the revisions are revdel'd via the API, in which case Popups could visualize this with a strikethrough. We might want to file a bug report. Best, — MusikAnimaltalk17:17, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
Hello! I was wondering if you know how to edit Tools > Page Information > External Tools section? I would like to add link to the Pageviews Analysis external tool in Estonian Wikipedia. But can't seem to find corresponding MediaWiki page (I suppose it is accessible in the MediaWiki namespace). Cumbril (talk) 21:25, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi MusikAnimal, I wasn't able to get the answers I wanted at VPT for now, and was interested in investigating a potential MW pending changes bug involving edit and review (specifically where an editor could review a page that he/she couldn't edit, with the (still unapproved) PC2+ECP PC2+TPROT the most likely offender) I could potentially test this myself at the test site, and I've also filed a request there (citing test, script, and dev reasons). Thanks for your help :) — Andy W.(talk ·ctb)05:34, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
I've given you sysop rights on testwiki. I'd be surprised if the bug you speak of exists, but at least it won't be of much concern right now given we aren't using PC2 — MusikAnimaltalk05:57, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
Graph needed
Hi MA. I'm no good at this sort of thing so I'm wondering if you could make a logarithmic graph showing the growth of these stats and extrapolating where it will be by the end of the year. I believe even Microsoft XL has tools to do this but I wouldn't know how to go about it:
That's excellent Samtar, thank you very much. In the meantime I was able to cobble something together in Apple Numbers, but of corse I'm unable to make a year-end prediction. Thanks again :) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:00, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
Hello MusikBot, I saw that this bot archive the talk page. Archiving is needed for nepali wikipedia also. Please run this bot in newiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 36.253.254.157 (talk) 11:28, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
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The new version of MediaWiki will hopefully be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 September. It will be on all wikis from 22 September (calendar). This is the version that was meant to go out last week.
Meetings
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Two ideas for your consideration, presented here without trepidation
I'm an admin Jim, not a poet!
For RFPP response helper, reword the dr response from "Consider dispute resolution" to "Content dispute. Please use the article's talk page or other forms of dispute resolution"
Regarding rangeblocks, I'm thinking of setting up a subpage in my userspace, outlining my thoughts there, and inviting others to join in. Is that a good place or is there somewhere else more appropriate?
@NeilN: I'm glad you asked... We (Community Tech) were actually chatting out technical requirements, and before we formally get into that it's probably best if we get input from the community on what they actually want :) So yes, if you want to start something up here on-wiki that'd be great! An on-wiki discussion seems favourable because not everyone has a Phabricator account. I wouldn't start an RfC just yet unless we find something requiring broader input. The need for a IP range contribs tool is pretty much shared by all of us, I think :) My hope is we can get all the requirements scoped out sooner than later, as the techy part might be a long wait — MusikAnimaltalk00:14, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Okay, here's my plan. 1) Outline what we have, noting strengths and weaknesses. Outline what I think we need. 2) Invite the editors who posted to my talk page to comment. 3) Post to AN, "Hey admin who doesn't know how to rangeblock. Yeah you." to see if what we came up with would encourage them to start rangeblocking. --NeilNtalk to me00:56, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
@NeilN: Sounds great! I really like #3. That's an excellent end goal: Not just make the range blockers' life easier, but to recruit more to do it when appropriate, and hopefully end up with a more stable wiki — MusikAnimaltalk01:07, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
@Musik092: I honestly think it looks OK, but Nathan Lee has been deleted numerous times due to lack of notability, and underwent a formal proposed deletion debate that again resulted in deletion. The older version of the article also looked more well-rounded and better sourced. The only thing new I think is Nathan Lee won another award this past July. Maybe that's enough to make him notable... I think it meets criteria #9, Has won first, second or third place in a major music competition. Others may disagree, perhaps those aren't considered "major music competitions". Any insight Randykitty? Hopefully you don't mind the ping — MusikAnimaltalk05:43, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi (no problem to ping me :-), I don't have any strong opinion about this. I took it to AfD (based mainly on its twisted history, pretty straightforward) and implement the "delete" decision (G4) and then to protect it against recreating (also pretty straightforward given its history). I'm not familiar enough with this field to judge whether the additional award is enough to change the outcome of the AfD. I'd recommend to take this to WP:DRV and ping the participants at the previous AfD to see whether there is ground to overturn it. --Randykitty (talk) 07:04, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for looking into this! How do you ping the participants at the previous AfD? Is that something I should do? Thanks again. User:Musik092 —Preceding undated comment added 18:12, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi! So I don't know jackshit about coding or javascript or whatever, but I tried to make sense of your code for More Menu and attempted this. It checks for personal js/css subpages and adds it to the userdropdown if it exists. I doubt it's of any interest to normal users but it is quite useful to me. Anyway, I'm wondering if it's possible for me to add this functionality from my common.js or something while loading the gadget, rather than me copying the whole of Moremenu to my userspace and doing this. I'm sure this is a waste of your time, but appreciate any pointers. - NQ(talk)16:35, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
@NQ: Could you not use Page > Subpages on their userpage and find it that way? Or is that too much work? :) To add your own submenu without copying over the full gadget, you could do all the AJAX stuff in your separate script, then build the markup and append it. So with this approach you wouldn't add your definitions to the userMenuList and show/hide them, rather only add them if the user CSS/JS is found. The code for adding the menu is in generateMenuContent. If you can't figure it out let me know, I'll try to help — MusikAnimaltalk18:13, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
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Extended confirmed protection (also known as "30/500 protection") is a new level of page protection that only allows edits from accounts at least 30 days old and with 500 edits. The automatically assigned "extended confirmed" user right was created for this purpose. The protection level was created following this community discussion with the primary intention of enforcing various arbitration remedies that prohibited editors under the "30 days/500 edits" threshold to edit certain topic areas.
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A barnstar for you!
The Teamwork Barnstar
Thanks for your work on the massviews tool, which assisted with the History of the Paralympics in Australia (HOPAU) Project. Well done! Much appreciated! Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:25, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
Thank you!!! This is a barnstar I don't have yet :) And I should give credit where credit is due, which is to mw:Analytics for their incredible work. Making Massviews happen was a team effort, for sure, but impossible without the work of Nuria, Hear, Elukey, and Joal (not sure if these people have SUL accounts but those are their IRC handles :) — MusikAnimaltalk21:00, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for quickly responding to my requests for rollback & pending changes review. Enjoy this Monday morning cup of extra-caffeinated coffee. Safehaven86 (talk) 15:55, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi Musik, I'm not on IRC at the moment otherwise I would have bothered you there plus its a quick one I promise! {{blockcalc}} shows the number of affected addresses here to be 1G. Now I get that its a lot of IPv6 addresses which would be affected, but what exactly does that G stand for? It certainly ain't no Googol... -- samtartalk or stalk14:17, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
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When you edit text and mention a new username they are notified if you add your signature. Before this only happened under certain conditions. [19]
Users are notified if they are mentioned in a section where you add your own signature even if you edit more than one section. Before, users were not notified if you edited more than one section in one edit. [20]
Problems
The MediaWiki version that was supposed to come to the wikis two weeks ago was put on hold again because of new problems. The MediaWiki version after it is now on all wikis. [21][22]
Changes this week
There will be no new MediaWiki version this week. [23]
Abandoned tools on Tool Labs could be taken over by other developers. There is a new discussion on Meta about this. It will be discussed until 12 October and then voted on. [24]
Thank you for protecting my userspace to prevent any vandalism. I appreciate it. Yes you can leave those damn redirects! But thanks a lot! VarunFEB200315:33, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
Help ASAP
Hi, My userspace is being vandalized can you ECP the whole thing or atleast semi-protect the whole using Twinkle P-Batch tool. 49.126.254.228 vandalized my space and did it so beautifully it took me a minutes to find where he did it and revert it. It was visible on top of my talk! Two pages in my userspace are already protected - User:VarunFEB2003/Tools Lab and User:VarunFEB2003/Subpages. Moreover I do not want User:VarunFEB2003/Guestbook to be protected. You can protect all others with whichever protection you find appropriate (but it should be accessible to me!). If you can please protect my talkspace (including archives) also except my current talk page, User talk:VarunFEB2003/Programs Desk, and User talk:VarunFEB2003/Scripts Desk. Thanks a lot and help would be really really appreciated! VarunFEB200308:33, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
(talk page stalker)@VarunFEB2003: Honestly, it was one edit that the IP made on your userspace, and that edit was hardly vandalism - it was more of a test edit, and an edit for which you wrote a "final warning" on the IP's talk page, with final warnings typically needing to be preceded by lower level warnings. What ever happened to assuming good faith? Unless I'm missing some history or backstory here, it looks like needlessly harsh treatment by you. If you want all your user subpages semi protected, just ask for it - policy is not crystal clear on that, as you know, and there might be administrators who are willing to do it. Asking for semi protection of your entire userspace on the basis of one edit that was hardly vandalism comes across as a bit thick to me. MikeLynch (talk) 13:32, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
@MikeLynch: A while ago he told me that if I want my space protected I can ask for it. I worded my message a bit wrong what I actually meant there was I don't want any further vandalism in my space by him or others. Today he vandalized I take care of it by watching him but then tomorrow another IP will come and do the same thing so it will be difficult. I have over 100 subpages and vandalism is not easy to track. I needed a much better solution. I left him a lvl 4 warning because some while ago I saw some users do precisely the same thing when their user/usertalk space was vandalised, I don't remember specifics of I would have provided a diff. It was clearly not a test, he intentionally dug into transclusions of transclusions to do that because the page he did that too isn't visible easily unless someone searches for such a page. VarunFEB200314:52, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
We would like to announce the start of the 4th GA Cup, a competition that seeks to encourage the reviewing of Good article nominations! Thus far, there have been three GA Cups, which were successful in reaching our goals of significantly reducing the traditionally long queue at GAN, so we're doing it again. Currently, there are over 400 nominations listed. We hope that we can again make an impact this time.
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Can you advise why the above-noted user is not "actionable" per the comment on AIV? I'd thought level 4 warning twice by two different editors would warrant a block, even if it's just a temporary one.--Cahk (talk) 18:19, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
@Cahk: The issue was removing the speedy tags, and the page has been deleted. No disruption since then, so either way the report is stale. I would normally explain this at AIV but again the report was from nearly 12 hours ago... I didn't think you'd actually see it :) — MusikAnimaltalk18:58, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
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Changes this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 October. It will be on all wikis from 6 October (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 4 October at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
Tidy will be replaced. Instead the HTML 5 parsing algorithm will be used to clean up bad HTML in wikitext. This would cause problems on a number of wikis. They need to be fixed first. [26]
<slippymap> will not work on Wikivoyage after 24 October. You should use <mapframe> instead. If you need help to fix this before 24 October you should ask for it as soon as possible. [27]
Orphaned non-free image File:Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime.ogg
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@Aharvell: Hey! Sorry for the late reply. The C grade I gave it was a rough assessment, and for the record it does not mean it's a bad article by any means :) At quick glance, it looks like it could use more sourcing, particularly in the "Contests" and "Harmony, Inc. Areas" sections. There may be other WP:MOS-related fixes that could be made. I would like to help you with it myself but admittedly I'm tied up with other work right now :( There is some good reading available to learn about how improve the quality of articles: Check out Wikipedia:Article development and Wikipedia:Writing better articles. That being said I still think you did a superb job, it being your first article! Hope this helps, and keep up the awesome work :) — MusikAnimaltalk03:55, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
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Recent changes
You can show Special:RecentChanges on a page by using {{Special:RecentChanges}}. You can now use tag filters by using {{Special:RecentChanges/tagfilter=tagname}}. [28]
The notification badge is coloured if you have notifications. When you check the notification the badge will now turn grey on all wikis instead of just the local one. [29]
Colours used in the Wikimedia wikis' main interface changed slightly. This is to make them easier to see for readers and editors with reduced eyesight. [30]
Changes this week
Hidden HTML comments will be more visible when you edit with the visual editor. <!-- You write hidden HTML comments like this. -->[31]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 October. It will be on all wikis from 13 October (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 11 October at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Language converter syntax will soon no longer work inside external links. Wikitext like http://-{zh-cn:foo.com; zh-hk:bar.com; zh-tw:baz.com}- must be replaced. You will have to write -{zh-cn: http://foo.com ; zh-hk: http://bar.com ; zh-tw:http://baz.com }- instead. This only affects languages with Language Converter enabled. Examples of such languages are Chinese and Serbian. [32]
I intend to send a weekly progress message to all the members ogf the work force. Many of them signed up two weeks ago and hven't responed to any tasks yet. Problem is, despite having set up the Mass Messaging list according to the instructions, it's not working and I've obviously mised somthing. Can you look at Wikipedia:The future of NPP and AfC/Work group list and tell me what I have done wrong. Thank, --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:03, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
@Kudpung: Try it now. I deleted the page and recreated it with Special:CreateMassMessageList, which gives it a special content model just for mass message delivery lists. You can easily add/remove recipients now. Where is the message you're trying to send? Make sure it contains a signature/datestamp so bots can archive it — MusikAnimaltalk22:15, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
Thank's for doing this for me. I've already sent the first bulletin manually to everyone, but I'll be able to use mass messaging for the next one. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 20:52, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
@Xaosflux:, I think we should continue to use the same practice we always have when new permissions are created to address the authorisation to carry certain official tasks. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:09, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
An educated guess, but I knew that MusikAnimal recently added an unconfirmed-show CSS class at MediaWiki:Group-autoconfirmed.css and uses the class at Wikipedia:PERM/Subpage. The fact that you were not getting the no-display config meant that that css wasn't being loaded, so I checked your personal config. MusikAnimal, sorry for the spam :) — Andy W.(talk ·ctb)03:41, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
Wow, thanks Andy M. Wang! Not sure if I would have thought to check his CSS. You are absolutely correct, I added some code to remove the "add requests" links and show that message for anonymous users, since obviously we can't grant permissions to them. I also refactored a lot of the code to keep each PERM page consistent. I guess we shouldn't worry about others running into this issue, seems like an edge case. Frankly I'm surprised the unconfirmed-show code didn't get loaded, because there's also a sysop-show CSS class around the "assign permissions" links which I'm certain has been visible for BU Rob13. Anyway glad we got it figured out! And no worries about the spam, I don't mind :) — MusikAnimaltalk04:09, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
WMF waiting for our NPP short list
Hi, It's now been three weeks since we created the NPP Work Group and we are hoping for a dynamic push forward for the urgent updates and required improvements to the quality control of new pages.
We now have the attention of the WMF and their development team has made page patrolling a top priority. They are already working hard to address some of the major issues.
The success of this depends on our team being able to keep the developers supplied with the feedback they need - if we relax on this they will move on.
If you have not already done so, please complete your list of 10 preferenceshere as soon as possible from the list at To do - the WMF is waiting for our shortlist. Please note that No.8 (NOINDEX) has already been addressed.
