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That Hunter Biden laptop page is something else huh
I appreciate that you're basically the lone voice of reason among what is very clearly a Blue-Anon echo chamber. Keep up the good work. They just reverted one of my edits in that talk page after implying I was a Fox viewer and denigrating "MAGA" people.
It's amazing people like this are able to have influence over what is considered accurate information when all they do is post baseless conspiracy theories. I mean the entire first paragraph of that page is now basically a lie, and do you think they'll honestly change it?
Wikipedia has become an insane echo chamber, I swear. I really do appreciate people like you who try to hold entries to the standards the people running things claim they hold them to. Much respect. 24rhhtr7 (talk) 17:50, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for saying what you did in the Admin action page or whatever it's called. I appreciate you pointing out exactly what I was trying to point out about the nature of the entry and the Talk page, even if you disagree with my behavior.
Keep up the great work as an objective voice of reason. I've definitely had my fill of these political entries. Happy editing! 24rhhtr7 (talk) 07:39, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
@NewsAndEventsGuy You are required to check for prior alertness before leaving this. As you obviously have not, I can only interpret this alert as harassment. Please remove it. Mr Ernie (talk) 23:57, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Mr Ernie, may I recommend a banner similar to what I have at the top of my UTP? If someone attempts to leave a DS alert message, it triggers a filter that advises the editor of a long list of topics that I'm aware of, and quickly cures the problem. It's quite handy. You are welcome to copy it. Atsme💬📧00:21, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
That’s a good idea. I had expected that editors attempt a minimum checking before issuing these nasty templates. Sorry that the news guy was too busy for that. I’m clearly aware as a 10 second search would discover. Easier just to drop the menacing template I suppose. Mr Ernie (talk) 01:50, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Actually, I participated in creating this system and religously check the system log. Here's yours. These DSAlert expire after 12 months, and as you can see, you have not had the US Politics DS alert in the prior 12 months. Since we're expected to WP:Assume good faith, you can assume I know its a no-fault/no-cause FYI and nothing more... besides reading the relevant P&G pages, I was there when we made them. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 00:49, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
PS By the way, casting unfounded accusations of harrassment is often considered to be an WP:NPA violation. I'm willing to chalk this up to honest misunderstanding, but ask that you to use strike out or otherwise retract your "harrassment" claim above, to show it was an honest mistake. Thanks. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 01:29, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Please retract your harassing overtemplating of me on my own talk page. Next time spend 10 seconds to check the other awareness criteria before you come here to attack me. Mr Ernie (talk) 01:52, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Can you please remove your DS alert like I asked? You can very easily check my participation at AE as one of the standard means of being “alert.” I had not expected you to double down with your harassment but I’m asking you to please stop. Mr Ernie (talk) 01:46, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Per Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Discretionary_sanctions#Alerts eds are not required to sift through AE archives. If you want, sure I'll delete it, or you can. But its still in your talk page history, which I can't change, and its still in the system log, which I can't change. Do you still want me to redact it? No problem but given the limitations of what I can do I wanted to verify that's what you want. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 02:04, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
What sifting are you taking about? I have 3 “alert” satisfying edits in my last 50 edits tab. This takes less than 10 seconds to check. I don’t know how to ask more directly - please stop. Refresh yourself with the details of alertness and remove this harassment from my talk page. It’s so easy to check. Mr Ernie (talk) 02:13, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Those are defined as adequate evidence to show someone is AWARE when starting an AE complaint. The rules about alerts do not require looking for them. But sure, I'll be happy to redact the template. If you want to delete the thread, have at it. it's your talk page. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 02:27, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
You within your rights to formally propose a rule change, and if that produces an amendment to the DS Alert system, I'll be glad to do the modified process. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 12:05, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Offtopic sidebar from RSN
In reply to your request for diffs[1] related to my "multiple salvos" remark, you've made four comments in the RSN thread about Rep Thompson and talk about the word "coup". In those you named several people and said they said something and maybe they did or maybe that's your characterization after the passage of years. Unless you provide sources, how can one know, unless they possess extensive prior knowledge about it all? That's all I meant,and I think I've answered your request for diffs.
NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 01:09, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
I am no fan of the editors Specifico and Zaathras. I have had issues with them and I don't consider their demeanor specially great. Some editors simply don't recognize when they are wrong and don't back away from mistakes or uncivil behavior, even if relevant policies or guidelines are pointed at them. Thinker78(talk)16:56, 28 July 2022 (UTC) 00:21, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
The frustrating part for me is that SPECIFICO has been warned at least 14 times for such behavior, but it continues. Maybe you could send some advice their way? Mr Ernie (talk) 00:53, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
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You may need to check your email address in your preferences. If you will, please send me an email and let's see if the issue is my email first. Atsme💬📧00:29, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
Mainly per your observation. I removed the 1RR sub-discussion. But, I'm still concerned with what appears to be a 1RR breach. Thus my asking advice from 'three' administrators, at my sandbox. GoodDay (talk) 02:25, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
Admins don’t seem interested to help with the issues at that page. I don’t know why, but there’s not much else to do about it. Mr Ernie (talk) 02:29, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
So now some want to remove Biden's image. Next will be an RM, to remove his name & then either a complete purge of his name from the page or a re-writing to make him look 100% like a victim. GoodDay (talk) 14:05, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
First attempt: Maintain ...alleged... in the lead (failed). Second attempt: Delete "..belonging to.." from the lead (failed). Now, the third attempt: Try to push "..belonging to..." further down the lead. GoodDay (talk) 22:04, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
I've looked, but I can't find the "14" editors (mentioned multiple times by Feoffer & repeated by Roy) who've been complaining since the last RFC was closed. Maybe you & some others can find them. GoodDay (talk) 16:12, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
@Feoffer why are you doing this? I think you have a good chance of getting sanctioned as we are long past the point of good faith. You broke the 24hr BRD when it was in effect, twice, and I think everyone’s patience has been exhausted about this issue. Mr Ernie (talk) 01:44, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
Please note I'm not trying calling for any particular sanctions against you, and I know boomerangs are always a possibility, but I legitimately need advice and assistance from the Admin community to know how to proceed. A dispute does exist, we need eyeballs on it, and me restoring the tag myself would only compound the problem. Feoffer (talk) 01:51, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
What a silly filing. Chin up Mr. Ernie and Feoffer there were numerous paths including asking at BLPN or RSN or HelpDeak for guidance rather than going to ANI where guards are now up and defenses will be mounted as you are putting people's editing privileges at risk. Slywriter (talk) 02:32, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
putting people's editing privileges at risk I've asked for advice and assistance, I haven't called for anyone to be blocked, much less banned. I think it's a problem to repeatedly remove tags meant to foster an on-going discussion, Ernie seems to think it's a 1RR exempt behavior. That's a dispute worthy of admin involvement. Feoffer (talk) 02:59, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
ANI is not a place for advice. If it was, the message at top of ANI would say something very different. Messaging either of the admins involved in placing restrictions for clarification would have been a much better path. Slywriter (talk) 03:26, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
Maybe gentleman my eyesight is tricking me. But Feoffer seems to be asking for support from two editors at the RFC, for a 'compromise' edit. GoodDay (talk) 03:42, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
Let ANI sort it out or AE when ANI decides to ignore the third thread in a week on this particular page. It's there on the article talk for those who want to bother looking. If the community wants to declare that RfCs are no longer the solution to disputes, that's their choice to make. Just be smart and don't take the bait lying around on the talk page. Slywriter (talk) 04:49, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
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Four of the people there ( Biophys, jacurek,Piotrus, Radeksz) are listed as parties. Poeticbent is also relevant to the case, as is the blocked Molobo whose retirement is discussed by Volunteer Marek and GizzyCatBella (jacurek) across the case.
In addition you have the old friend and list member Biruitorul commenting there.
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