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Please help me understand what is the correct way to include information about Andy Votel's Vertigo Mixed^[1] album on Linda Hoyle's page. Andy Votel's album uses material by Linda Hoyle. Thanks!

Misha Wolf (talk) 11:31, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It appears Andy Votel's album makes use of material from many people. I don't think it's appropriate to mention that on all the other articles, and I see no reason to single out Hoyle. Are there reliable sources discussing that Hoyle's songs are being re-used by others? If so, we could summarize what they say, but if the only source is a track listing that, from the Hoyle article's point of view, offers nothing but a name-drop, I see no advantage to discussing it. Huon (talk) 13:38, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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^ "Vertigo Mixed". Artist Direct. Retrieved 2 August 2015.

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Please help me understand whether it is legitimate to cite quotations which appear on a Web site if one has no first-hand evidence that those statements were made. I am thinking of some of the statements quoted by Angel Air on their Web page for Linda Hoyle's The Fetch.^[1] I managed to locate one of the quotations (the one from Goldmine Magazine) on the Web and have cited it. Is it legitimate to cite the ones I have not found elsewhere on the Web? Thanks!

I've since discovered that a number of these statements have been made in emails to Linda Hoyle and/or Mo Foster. I believe that it is legitimate to cite them as such.

Misha Wolf (talk) 11:59, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If those quotes are not backed up by reliable published sources, they are inappropriate for Wikipedia. They might be suitable for a promotional blurb on the label's website, but they don't provide the context we need for encyclopedic coverage. Anything less than positive likely would not have made it onto Angel Records' website. Instead we're far better off if we locate independent reviews by reputable publications and summarize what those have to say about the album - the good and the bad (if any). In particular, emails sent to Hoyle and/or her collaborators are useless as Wikipedia references. Huon (talk) 13:38, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I've removed those quotes. Misha Wolf (talk) 15:40, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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^ "LINDA HOYLE The Fetch". Angel Air. Retrieved 2 August 2015.

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Ronit Kark ‎ Article Changes

Hey @Misha Wolf, wanted to let you know that I made a lot of changes to your Ronit Kark article. You did a really good job and I can tell you put a lot of effort into it. There were a few things I changed around like I removed the links to their profiles, took out the books and articles they published, and I had to remove a chunk of the intro because of copyright. Here's an example of kind of how these articles should sort of look (Mikhail Katz, and Shafi Goldwasser). Keep up the great work! Dr vulpes ^{(💬 • 📝)} 04:46, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Dr vulpes, thanks for your message. The Mikhail Katz article contains a list of publications. What makes the publications I had included in the Ronit Kark article not useful? What would I need to do to make the inclusion of (some of) them useful? Thanks

Misha Wolf (talk) 14:50, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Misha Wolf I think a better way to think about it is if it's a notable book or an important paper then I would add it. The problem is in general you get people (not you and not this article) who treat Wikipedia like it's some sort of resume/cv. So if you are going to add something just make sure it's notable or important. For example if a book has won an award or was a best seller then absolutely add it, if they published "The Handbook of XYZ" then I wouldn't include it even though it might be highly cited it's not really notable. I'm a not an IO psychologist so I can't really tell you what papers and books are the best to add because I just don't know the field well enough, but I am a health/quant psychologist so I at least sort of know what's going on. Hope that this was helpful, if you have any other questions or anything feel free to ping me and I'll come and try to help the best I can. Dr vulpes ^{(💬 • 📝)} 16:52, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Misha Wolf (talk) 16:54, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

thanks 168.121.86.156 (talk) 18:11, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again @Dr vulpes, I see that many Wikipedia articles have Google Scholar identifiers. Why is it incorrect for the Ronit Kark article to have such an identifier? Thanks

Misha Wolf (talk) 16:49, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah you can add them if you want, just stick to like Google Scholar since it gives you a nice list. You don't need to add one for ResearchGate, Academia.edu, and and and and. If you go to the page history you can just copy and paste the removed wikitext back into the article to save you time. Dr vulpes ^{(💬 • 📝)} 16:54, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Edits to 2023 Israeli judicial reform

Hi Misha Wolf, I reverted your edits on this page. The sources you included (Google Drive links) are not reliable sources for Wikipedia. Could you instead cite where you got these drive files from? TheManInTheBlackHat (Talk) 18:17, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @TheManInTheBlackHat, the quote I inserted comes from a letter signed by 143 historians and is linked to by a Washington Post story, which I cite. It's a nuisance that the historians chose to publish the text of their letter in this way, but I think that the Post's link makes it acceptable, doesn't it? Misha Wolf (talk) 18:21, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm looking back and I see that you did link the Post's article. Sorry about this, I've reverted by edit. TheManInTheBlackHat (Talk) 18:23, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again @TheManInTheBlackHat, I've just found the same statement in WordPress (see https://gath.files.wordpress.com/2023/02/historians-letter-eng-v3.pdf). Would that location be considered more reliable than Google Docs? Misha Wolf (talk) 18:26, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

PS: I guess the problem is that the Post's link validates the Google Drive version but not the (seemingly identical) WordPress version. Misha Wolf (talk) 18:30, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi @Diannaa, thanks for your message. I had the copyright holder's permission for including that text. I now see, at the link you provided, that there is a formal process that must be followed in such cases. I shall find out whether the copyright holder is willing to go through that process. Misha Wolf (talk) 13:52, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again @Diannaa. @Jonathanabujj, who owns the Web site from which the text was quoted, has now followed the process described at Wikipedia:Copyrights#Using copyrighted work from others and was advised to change the copyright statement on the Web site to align with Wikipedia's requirements. He has now done so. If that is satisfactory, please could I request that you restore the deleted text. Many thanks. Misha Wolf (talk) 16:38, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you could tell me which article you are talking about and which website is now compatibly licensed I would be happy to take a look at it. Thanks. — Diannaa (talk) 19:39, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, sorry. The article is Nexus Task Force and the relevant Web page is here. Thanks Misha Wolf (talk) 19:42, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the revision deletion but I am not going to restore the content as the source website does not look like a scholarly high quality source. — Diannaa (talk) 19:49, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Misha Wolf (talk) 21:06, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi @Scope creep, I'm investigating additional sources to establish Jonathan Jacoby's notability. I have come across a hand-written letter from a well-known Israeli President to Jacoby, praising his work. That is, of course, not a secondary source but I imagine that it has serious weight when determining notability. Is that so? Thanks Misha Wolf (talk) 06:11, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Per PAG's - it is not good form to change any talk page comment after another editor has replied to it. When there's good cause to do so, the time of the revision can be indicated with five tildes, ~~like this~~17:10, 8 August 2024 (UTC) to indicate the order of commentary on the talk page. SPECIFICO talk 17:10, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @SPECIFICO, I didn't know about the five tildes trick. Thanks, I'll make a note of it.

I struck out the "1" as:

The description given for that option in the survey ("current") was no longer correct.
The para had changed a number of times since the start of the survey, with a lot of discussion on the Talk page. I didn't want to appear to be proposing that it be rolled back to the version of Aug 5.
No-one else had (or has) voted for either of those options ("1" or "2").

Misha Wolf (talk) 18:01, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] "Vertigo Mixed". Artist Direct. Retrieved 2 August 2015.

[2] "LINDA HOYLE The Fetch". Angel Air. Retrieved 2 August 2015.

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