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UncivilThis edit summary "(→Request for Comment - inverted commas added to help Badbilltucker grasp the nuances of English.) " is uncivil and a personal attack. Consider this your last warning due to your other behaviour on Talk:Turkish Van. If you continue such behaviour, you will be blocked to prevent it. pschemp | talk 21:38, 8 December 2006 (UTC) Point of disagreementFor what little it's worth, it should be noted that Pschemp, as an admin, can do that without consulting anyone. I would not myself in this instance, but I am not her. I am writing for a separate purpose, to perhaps try to make it clearer to you why several other people do not share your apparent love of the pure-white type. There is clear evidence that pure-white cats, through some genetic arrangement, are more likely than other cats to be genetically deaf. If you review the three stated detriments of the breed, their loudness, fondness for breaking things, and jealousy of their "territory", all three of these can be fairly easily seen to be possibly related to a hearing impairment, either of the animal itself or of those animals with whom it has to most regularly communicate. Should the animal have any coloring whatsoever, then they are remarkably less likely to be hearing-impaired. Considering that the three cited detriments are what made some one source describe these animals as bad house pets, I can say that I personally think that being pure-white may well be in and of itself a survival disadvantage, particularly for an animal which, to some extent, exists today primarily as a human house pet. To people who seek the survival and prospering of the individual animal as being of paramount importance, rather than the survival of a particular genetic trait, your insistence upon attempting to preserve the monochrome white cat, even at the individual animal's increased likelihood of not succeeding in the domestic animal area, sounds uncomfortably similar to Adolf Hitler's eugenics programs. I want you to realize I am not comparing you personally to Hitler, simply pointing out how someone else could see a similarity between the two positions. By advocating the forced continuation of this genetically-disadvantaged type of animal, many cat lovers could see you as putting some outside consideration (in this case, national pride in a national symbol) over and above the health of the individual animal, which many animal lovers, including myself and possibly Pschemp, find deeply unpleasant. Particulary when the probability of genetic disadvantage can be greatly decreased by a small, purely cosmetic change, in this case, adding some coloring to the animal. It should be noted that the Turkish Van does not suffer from noticably high incidences of deafness. In fact, I could argue that the Turkish employee who gave the two British women the cats was perhaps trying to preserve the beloved Turkish cat by finding two of the more adoptable animals, which would rule out the pure-white deaf ones, and having the women take them out and make them as popular overseas as they are in Turkey. Your repeated insistence that only the genetically-disadvantaged, increased-probability deaf pure white animal is somehow the only "pure" van cat can thus be seen by these individuals as being, in effect, an attempt to justify creating animals whose lives could be made easier and possibly more fulfilling without the intervention of the "breed police". I can well understand how you place a different priority on things than either Pschemp, who, as a cat breeder, clearly loves animals, and I, who at one point during a local flood was housing 12 animals (11 cats, 1 dog) in a four-room apartment, do. In fact, I could possibly even go so far as to say that the pure-white type may be losing an evolutionary battle to the genetically-less-disadvantaged other kind. Also, I am myself sufficiently knowledgable about felines in particular to know that coloring in and of itself is in no cases cause to consider that animals are in any way of a different breed, and, on that basis, discount your claim of the "pure-white" breed as being inconsistent with external evidence. As you will note, I spend a few hours trying to improve an article about the pure-white animal to give it a chance to be seen by a greater number of people on the main page. You, because of your insistence in inserting your historical quotes and interpretations, clearly disqualified the article for consideration, even if I had not myself removed it. In fact, Pschemp had already added a statement on the nomination page to the effect that your insertion of POV material effectively disqualified it. In conclusion, I would strongly suggest you do the following: (1) review the materials for newcomers which are referenced in the template at the top of this page, (2) perhaps create a userpage for yourself, indicating your particular areas of interest and expertise (red-link names are often viewed suspiciously, as single-purpose accounts like vandals and slanderers are the ones most likely to not create a userpage), and (3) perhaps either join a group or project, maybe like some in the Project Directory, which will allow you to have an increased number of contacts and an increased number of more-experienced editors to be able to call upon when you have to. Alternately, there is a new program in which experienced editors will "adopt" a new user to help show them the ropes, as it were. I myself objected to the implicit derrogation of the newcomer by the word "adopt", but was overruled. Then, the editor who decides to help you out will be one you can turn to when you have questions or other concerns. I noted that you claim to have a good deal of knowledge about the Anatolia region. I am certain that the Wikipedia:WikiProject Turkey would welcome your joining their group, and giving them any input you might be able to. Also, as an active member of both WikiProject Cats and WikiProject Dogs, I saw in one of the sources how the Turkish government has also placed the kaldang dog on the list of protected species. We do not yet have any content on this animal, and I am certain that the Dogs and Dog breeds projects would welcome anything you might be able to give us which could provide some information on this breed we currently have no content on. Also, I strongly suggest you review all the material cited above referring to our objections to POV and conclusions in content. In any event, I hope you realize that I think it likely that none of those who disagree with you are inherently trying to make money or trying to lead to the death of a national symbol, but are more trying to fight for what they perceive as being the principles of wikipedia and the best possible circumstances for all the animals we are discussing. Badbilltucker 17:50, 10 December 2006 (UTC) License tagging for Image:Ani the cathedral.jpgThanks for uploading Image:Ani the cathedral.jpg. 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Ani
The only reason I even touched the article was to bring order to what was chaos. Take a look at what was there before my involvement. If there was misinformation in the article, it was misinformation that a reader could see where it came from. Major revisions to an article should be done in your sandbox and presented with references when complete. What you did, instead, is throw down hundreds of words and left a message on the talk page that you would provide references "a.s.a.p.". That is about as amateurish as it gets. Please note the following:
You didn't even manage to put a comment at the right place on my talk page. You are a novice here and your ignorance of how Wikipedia works is obvious. House of Scandal 07:50, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
John-SmbatGoogle results also prove this simple fact: [1].-- Ευπάτωρ Talk!! 21:33, 21 January 2007 (UTC) Hovhannes-Smbat was his name, English Wikipedia doesn not mean you change the proper names to their English equivalent. Yohann Sebastian Bach's name does not change to John Sebastian Bach! Meowy 21:50, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Turkish Van - Languages
RE: EuropeHello. The inclusion of territories in the Europe (and Asia) table are based both on the UN geoscheme and, per the map, a common dividing line between the two continents -- in this, a portion of Azerbaijan is included, while Armenia (in the southern Caucasus) is not: this is already noted below. In the UN scheme, both are included in Western Asia. In Wp, the current presentation (long arrived at) is an attempt to equitably deal with these transcontinental countries. I apologise for perhaps not being clear about that, but be very careful about insinuations of vandalism, continuation of which will be ignored and willful edits without consensus reverted without comment. Corticopia 21:21, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 You have been blocked for a period of 24 hours for violation of the three reverts rule on the Europe article. You may resume editing after the block expires, but continued edit warring may result in longer blocks without further warning. Kafziel Talk 00:37, 6 May 2007 (UTC) Edit 1, I add Armenia to the table, into a new section named Caucasus and also moved Georgia and Azerbaijan into that new section. Edit 2, I add a note clarifying that population figure of Turkey is for its territory in Europe. Corticopia reverts both my entries. I revert Corticopia's revert. Corticopia reverts my revert. I revert Corticopia's entry. Corticopia reverts my revert. I revert Corticopia’s revert. That clearly makes only 3 reverts by me. So why did you block me? And why did you ignore the words of Heimstern Läufer who, when replying to Corticopia's allegation that I had broken the 3 reverts rule, said 'I have in fact perused the recent history and found nothing' (and who was then sworn at by Corticopia). In the light of this obvious mistake on your part, I would like an apology from you. Meowy 23:49, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
HelloHello, could you also see the talk page of the History of the name Azerbaijan article. Users Grandmaster, Parishan, and Atabek are trying to suppress a quote which they obviously dont like, and are continuously violating the compromise we all agreed on.Azerbaijani 14:44, 17 May 2007 (UTC) License tagging for Image:Sarian khatchkar.jpgThanks for uploading Image:Sarian khatchkar.jpg. Wikipedia gets thousands of images uploaded every day, and in order to verify that the images can be legally used on Wikipedia, the source and copyright status must be indicated. Images need to have an image tag applied to the image description page indicating the copyright status of the image. This uniform and easy-to-understand method of indicating the license status allows potential re-users of the images to know what they are allowed to do with the images. For more information on using images, see the following pages: This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. If you need help on selecting a tag to use, or in adding the tag to the image description, feel free to post a message at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. 10:12, 7 June 2007 (UTC) No personal attacksPlease stop. If you continue to make personal attacks on other people as you did at Talk:Başkale, you will be blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Thank you. — Gareth Hughes 13:13, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
And there was me thinking that the whole point of being an Anglican was to have no opinion on anything, and make a good living out of it.Meowy 01:50, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 Meowy (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: your reason here Decline reason: No reason given for unblock. Note that personal attacks are not tolerated. — Yamla 16:10, 15 June 2007 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. Meowy (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: Sorry - an error on my part - I didn't realise the reason had to be placed here. Here it is now. Gareth Hughes has blocked me for a specific comment I made on my user page. Blocks are used in order to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, not to punish users. That comment does not fall under any of the specified reasons for blocking someone. It was posted on my user talk page only: therefore how could it in any way be seen to "severely disrupt the project". How could the comment have damaged or disrupted Wikipedia in any way? Decline reason: My understanding is that this block is only regarding comments on Talk:Başkale and here. Calling someone arrogant and ignorant wasn't good, following it with this general insult didn't help. But your response to the warning was to re-affirm the insult and trash sysops generally [2] [3], so when you were warned again, you attempted to use someone's Anglican affiliation to discredit him, which is the second example here. So while I can't see that there was harrassment going on (though the block log actually links to WP:CIVIL), there was certainly enough incivility and personal attacks to merit a block. Blocks may be used to protect users against persistent personal attacks, not only disruption, and it doesn't matter where on Wikipedia the personal attacks take place.— Chaser - T 21:19, 15 June 2007 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. Let me clarify: this user was blocked by me for repeated harassment and personal attacks of other users. This user was warned about the behaviour, and has then taken personal issue with me. This user was certainly blocked for harassment of a number of users, that only eventually included me. — Gareth Hughes 16:20, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Meowy is making personal attacks against me hahaha 12:44, 18 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angelocasio (talk • contribs) Corticopia under ANII have noticed that you have had a scathing experience with User:Corticopia. A request for comment has been opened up against her/him here Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Disruptive_Edits_and_Uncivil_Comments----DarkTea 23:21, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
May be of interest to youhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Kish Hetoum I 06:41, 22 June 2007 (UTC) Thanks. Will have a look at it, and the various edits. May consider contributing. Depends on how bad the Azeri propaganda has got. Meowy 21:37, 22 June 2007 (UTC) As you see it is pretty factually inaccurate. I did not know "caucasian albanians" existed in this time period. Did they not disappear by 10th century??? If you can help us with finiding additional resources and citations on this article, I would appreciate it. I was not the creator of this article, but I will work to try to correct it.Hetoum I 00:19, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
User:Hetoum/Sandbox, User:Hetoum I/Sandbox. I noticed you say: Even the briefest of internet searches should dig up enough troubling background information about J. Bjornar Storfjell to make one suspicious about anything his name is connected to. If you can gimme troubling info on him, I'd appreciate. His excavations alone give the impression he is rather unprofessional. What do you think stink about this cat meowy? :) Hetoum I 23:36, 29 June 2007 (UTC) J. Bjornar Storfjell is "Professor of Archaeology and History of Antiquity" at a private educational establishment in America that is part of the Seventh-day Adventist sect. He is also the self-styled "Chief Executive" of the "Thor Heyerdahl Research Centre". This research centre seems to consist of little more than Storfjell himself, seems to work almost exclusively in Azerbaijan, and is not to be confused with the "Heyerdahl Institute" a legitimate academic organisation that is based in Norway. Storfjell had a close association with Thor Heyerdahl in the decade before his death, and his connection with the Kish church arises out of Heyerdahl's crackpot theory that the Norwegians are descended from people who migrated from what is now Azerbaijan, and that the Udi (the possible builders of the Kish church) are the ancestors of most Scandanavians. I'm not sure if there is a political subtext behind the theory - but I suspect that it may be popular amongst anti-EU elements in Norway who wish to use it to prove that Norwegians are not European in origin. There are also indications of connections with international oil companies such as BP and (when it was active) Yukos. Meowy 19:58, 2 July 2007 (UTC) Ahh, cheers. Interesting info you have brought to attention. I took a few days off and looks like it got worse since I left. Anyway, time to start throwing my 2 cents in on the talk page.Hetoum I 12:36, 5 July 2007 (UTC) ArbcomHi. Please be aware that you've been named as a party to an arbcom case here: Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Armenia-Azerbaijan_2. Regards, Grandmaster 09:43, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
July 2007 Meowy (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: I have NOT violated the 3 reverts rule! RV1 3rd July 18:36, RV2 4th July 13:40, RV3 4th July 17.00, RV4 4th July 19:30. That makes only 3 in a 24 hour period. Moreover, I had said on the final edit that I would not be making any more edits to that page for 24 hours because of 3RR. So I can hardly be accused of acting in bad faith, or conciously exceeding the edit limit. For the benefit of non-administrators who may by chance read this I also want to say that while, technically, this is an appeal, I have not placed the appeal code in the page with the belief that there is any possibility, however small, that he appeal will be accepted. I feel I need to add that in case someone thinks I'm unduly naive, or are overly idealisic about Wikipedia, or dont't know about ethnically-based vested-interest groups that exist within Wikipedia administrators. Decline reason: Please review WP:3RR - the 3rr is an electric fence and not an entitlement. — ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 16:21, 5 July 2007 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. p.s.p.s. I checked english version articles of JSTOR for history of caucasian albanians. Dowsett's deals with only one unrelated passage, and the other one is a work by Mkhitar Gosh. I suspect you confused the rticles. Hetoum I 12:44, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
BTW, whether the Armenians in Kish during the 19th century were actually mostly Armenianised Udi, I don't think anyone can now know. Meowy 15:39, 5 July 2007 (UTC) Spelling - righto. Russian is clumsy as well as phonetically incorrect. For Udi - the quote they came up with said after restoration their udi community blah blah blah .... Which is not true, it is a damn museum. I did not know museums were spiritual centers of culture. For identity of "Armenians" in village and so forth, we can quote sources but not interpret them ourselves falling under original research rule. If anyone can come up with reliable published info proving identity of individuals in Kish, I do not see a reason to try to remove it.
church of KishAccording to Bosworth http://www.iranica.com/newsite/articles/v2f5/v2f5a010.html " The Monophysite Albanian church remained separate from the Armenian one till the end of the 7th century, when the two were united under stimulus from the Arabs" So the church can not be Albanian since there was no Albanian church in the 19th century. Also someone should mention that the Armenian inscriptions of the church were removed
If I'm not mistaken, much of what you just added [4] is word-for-word from Bryer's Byzantine Monuments and Topography of the Pontos, for example "...the ancient river Pyxites, along which runs the main trade route into eastern Anatolia and beyond." While it is a excellent source, I don't believe we can follow that text so closely without infringing. Tom Harrison Talk 20:43, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Returned it, and didn't scan or photocopy it before returning it. Tut tut! :) Meowy 21:33, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
May be of interestNotice you added some info on the monastery of Trebizond. May be these will also be of interest: St. Stepanos Church, Smyrna, St. Gregory the Illuminator's Church, Baku Hetoum I 22:22, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I was browsing and checking some Armenian churchs, and saw your impressive work. Good job you obviously know your thing. Anatolmethanol 15:32, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
About Marshal Bagramyan comment in the workshopHi Meowy, he was refering to Ehud Lasar. AdilBaguirov has used various socks impersonating various ethnicities, including Armenians, Kazaks, Uzbeks, Jews... But you should not have reverted that much anyway. The point was that, Marshall, you, Hetoum, Vartan all have made more than three edits reverting suspected socks of AdilBaguirov and while Grandmaster is using this, he and particularly Dacy69 have gotten away with the same thing. Mostly because we do not waste our time checking other contributors to then report them. - Fedayee 22:59, 25 July 2007 (UTC) The above named arbitration case in which you were named as a party has closed. The remedy is as follows: The remedies of revert limitations (formerly revert parole), including the limitation of 1 revert per week, civility supervision (formerly civility parole) and supervised editing (formerly probation) that were put in place at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan shall apply to any editor who edits articles which relate to Armenia-Azerbaijan and related ethnic conflicts in an aggressive point of view manner marked by incivility. Before any penalty is applied, a warning placed on the editor's user talk page by an administrator shall serve as notice to the user that these remedies apply to them. You may view the full case decisions here. For the Arbitration Committee, - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 00:29, 28 August 2007 (UTC) KaymakliHey, sorry I did not answer on the Kish page, just haven't felt healthy enough going back to that page yet. I am working on the Kaymakli article at the moment and trying to get it to a good article status. If you can add anything, please do so.Hetoum I 01:57, 29 August 2007 (UTC) Blocked
Signature Teststest1 Meowy 21:26, 25 September 2007 (UTC) test2 Meowy 21:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC) test3 Meowy 21:31, 25 September 2007 (UTC) test4 Meowy 21:33, 25 September 2007 (UTC) test5 Meowy 21:35, 25 September 2007 (UTC) test6 Meowy 21:37, 25 September 2007 (UTC) LolcatThat comment is trolling, and the user that made it has now been blocked for incivility and personal attacks. You have been previously blocked for that comment. You would do well to not add it again. — i said 00:38, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
warningI was going to ask you to clarify your stance on Armenian nationalism, but judging from your talkpage, I assume you are just trolling. Please refrain from blanking articles, or you may be blocked from editing. --dab (𒁳) 10:37, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
stop removing content that is absolutely undisputed. You seem to have difficulties grasping the concept of "sub-articles". See WP:SS. Armenian irredentism isn't equivalent to Armenian nationalism, but it is obviously a subtopic. If you want to merge the articles, do a proper {{merge}} suggestion, don't just blank content. dab (𒁳) 16:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Re:The figure inside the tomb is Bel. Hayk's arrow is still in his chest. Ararat in the background with the ark is just romanticism. The flag is based on Khorenatsi's account and the general idea that the earliest Armenian banners depicted dragons. Probably a result of Scythian invasions. I was wondering if some of the images that you have on your site can be used in Wikipedia, in particular Gagik I's statue, photos of Toros Toramanian and other potential public domain images? I'm not sure since I don't know what the sources are.-- Ευπάτωρ Talk!! 18:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Editing restrictions notificationNotice of editing restrictions Notice: Under the terms of Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2, any editor who edits articles which relate to the region of Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Iran and the ethnic and historical issues related to that area in an aggressive point of view manner marked by incivility may be placed under several editing restrictions, by notice on that editor's talk page. This notice is to inform you that based on your edits, you are hereby placed under the following restrictions:
Enforcement: Violations of limitations, supervision, or bans imposed by the remedies in this case may be enforced by brief blocks of up to a week in the event of repeat violations. After 5 blocks the maximum block period shall increase to one year. Note: This notice is not effective unless given by an administrator and logged here. Seraphimblade Talk to me 08:11, 18 October 2007 (UTC) Due to several aggressive and uncivil edits which you have chosen to make, including [6], you are hereby notified of the preceding editing restrictions. It is clear from this page that you have already been cautioned regarding civility and have chosen to ignore such cautions. Seraphimblade Talk to me 08:11, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Please, Seraphimblake, I have asked you a simple question. Do me the courtesy of answering it! All I asked is where in that RfA decision is there mention of "Turkey"? Where did the text you posted here come from? You cannot go around imposing that Armenia-Azerbaijan RfA remedy on whatever subject you like - it has to be on a subject that is covered by that RfA remedy. As I stated, the Allied occupation of Constantinople was not an "ethnic conflict" and is completely unrelated to either Armenia or Azerbaijan so why are you applying that remedy as a result of a posting I made on that entry's talk page? Meowy 21:26, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Gravestones near Lake VanHi! Thanks for your query. To be really honest with you I am not certain now exactly where those gravestones were - it is so long ago (1973). As far as I can remember, they were taken from the mainland - not too far from the old Van citadel. It would not surprise me at all if they have been destroyed or removed since then. Not only was I witness to damage to Armenian remains during the short 6 weeks I spent in the region of Lake Van - there was organised and constant graverobbing. I even met some of the graverobbers and bought some small pieces of Urartian jewelry they had just unearthed and donated them to the Van Museum. Very soon after I was taken into custody by the Turkish army (a very frightening experience - believe me! I was threatened, handcuffed and spat on but, I must admit, not hit) and driven around in a jeep with demands that I point out the graverobbers. Fortunately, I could not distinguish them from anyone else I saw and, I pointed out to the Colonel when I was returned to an army base, that I had run across the gravediggers opening a grave just a few km from downtown Van in broad daylight and that, if I could find them so easily surely the Turkish army should be able to find them too if they really wanted to. He finally grudgingly agreed that I was right and I was released after all my papers had been checked and rechecked and phone calls made to Ankara. Some day, when I can spare the time, I will try to digitalise all my old photos of that region and post more of them on the Wikipedia. John Hill 22:48, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Happy New Year and Merry Christmas!Dear Meowy! Happy New Year and Merry Christmas! I wish you all the best! Thank you for your contributions, particularly to the Armenian Genocide-related articles, and for the civility during our discussions! Hope to continue them in 2008! Andranikpasha (talk) 10:46, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Talk page irrelevanceI'm going to be bold and remove that irrelevant "Jewish" section from the talk page. I'd also like to remove the "Deportations" section as you suggested but I don't propose doing so until we have stated our reasons why it infringes policy first. Therefore, if you don't mind, I have refactored the last comments by you and me and moved them to that section. Once we have given people time to read them the section can be removed. Cheers. --Folantin (talk) 16:24, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Eh, no matter what we do, there are always going to be those who just finished reading Gunmen's hate site and head straight for that article to defend Turkeys honor. The one thing I hope the talkpage accomplishes is educating them, even if it's a little painful at first, they leave the place a little educated, knowing... I think its a good start to reverse the years of false history that they have been learning at their schools. But then again thats not the purpose of that talkpage. If we tell them to stop it, we would be breaking AGF and BITE. The one thing we can do is to tell them to read the wp:talk and hope that they do. VartanM (talk) 04:25, 28 January 2008 (UTC) Shusha PogromMeowy, thank you for your participation and work on Shusha pogrom article! If you need any additional sources (especially the Russian ones) pls contact me! And also one thing: according to my sad experiance:) [7], your edit can by classified as a "partial revert" while an explanation is required, so as you're under AA2 parole, pls explain it at the article's talk. Thank you again and hope for a contact! Andranikpasha (talk) 20:26, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Andranikpasha, it is not worth appealing the ban. But I would be grateful if you would pose the following questions to Moreschi. Has he looked at the edit which I removed, and if so does he think that the removed edit was an acceptable edit given that most of it repeated verbatim the content of the following-on paragraph? Also, does removing vandalism, even if it is inadvertant vandalism, count as a revert? My understanding was that it did not. Meowy 19:36, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Meowy 23:52, 31 January 2008 (UTC) UnblockedUnblocked. But see my comments at WP:AE. Thatcher 02:00, 1 February 2008 (UTC) Thank you. I agree with your analysis, and I do see how my use of the word "vandalism" may have inflamed the situation - I will try to use less provocative language in the future. I would like to clarify one point: I did not think that Parishan was deliberately vandalising the article. Parishan's edit was, as you said, sloppy editing. When I removed it, I believed that sloppy editing came under the category of "inadvertant vandalism" which is why I had used the word vandalism and had meant it to describe the result of the edit, not the aim of the edit. Meowy 16:21, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
AzerisThere are way too many articles that this subject has been discussed. The fact that Azeris of the Azerbaijan republic are former Tatars and the fact that the newly created republic was named as such, because the Russians eyed Iran's Azerbaijan province are well known. As a matter of fact, I was placed under restriction for saying that if the article about Azeris in Armenia was to include the information about Turkic people in Armenia the name of the article should be changed. Some of the discussions can be found in the following articles.
The subject has been deeper discussed by the Iranian users There are probably dozens more. VartanM (talk) 21:38, 3 February 2008 (UTC) 4chan b linkPlease don't remove it again, the most notable parts of a website belong in there in addition to the main one.--Seriousspender (talk) 12:59, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
I didn't remove anything, please be careful reverting in future!--Seriousspender (talk) 13:41, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
But you marked it as a "rv" - so I thought it was a revert of my edit! I see now that it was not and you were adding new material so I have returned it to the previous version. But why did you call it a revert when it wasn't? Meowy 13:55, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Bunyadov and medalsMy grandfather and two of his brothers have received those mentioned medals. Does this mean I can create articles about them? VartanM (talk) 03:42, 25 February 2008 (UTC) Sure, why not! But seriously, what should be done about such unnotable additions? If Bunyadov has Scout badges or a swimming certificate, I'm sure certain editors would want them mentioned too! Meowy 13:21, 26 February 2008 (UTC) Comment on Talk:Fitna (film)Hello, Meowy. I have removed this comment, because Wikipedia is not a forum for general discussion. Please limit your comments on article talk pages to discussions aimed at improving the attached article. Thanks. Parsecboy (talk) 03:26, 30 March 2008 (UTC) GenocideUnited we stand [[8]] Chaldean (talk) 01:28, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Arbitration enforcement blockYou are hereby blocked for 24 hours for failing to followup your revert at 2008 Mardakert skirmishes with a talk page explanation. I also note that the flag argument strikes me as pretty weak (i.e. it's rather self-evident the reference is to the entity bearing the flag). Thanks in advance. El_C 07:44, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Meowy (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: Grandmaster when making this edit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2008_Mardakert_skirmishes&diff=204655156&oldid=203359115 did not give a talk page explanation of his edit. His edit justification, given in the edit summary, was that he was removing an edit by an editor who had been subsequently banned. However, it isn't justifiable to simply revert an edit because that edit was made by a banned user. The actual quality of the material to be added or removed should always be examined. Grandmaster failed to do this, either in his edit summary, or in a talk page explanation. Decline reason: The block is not unjustified, because in not explaining your revert on the talk page you violated the explicit editing restrictions imposed by Seraphimblade above. The rest of your unblock request has no bearing on the matter of the validity of your block. — Sandstein (talk) 22:16, 11 April 2008 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. Meowy (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: Further to the decision by Sandstein - sorry, I didn't make my reasoning clear enough. Grandmaster, by adding the word "unrecognised" into the conflict infobox, was adding something that was completely contrary to the accepted useage of conflict infoboxes within Wikipedia articles. I can't believe that Grandmaster was unaware of what he was adding and that he was unaware that no other conflict infoboxes on any other conflict had such a qualifying word, so it is likely that he was planning to make similar changes to all of the articles dealing with conflicts relating to the Nagorno Karabagh war. Such edits, including the edit I reverted, would be perverting the proper function of a conflict infobox and thus compromising the integrity of Wikipedia. So my appeal is, basically, that I do not believe that reverting such an edit falls under the remit of the editing restriction under which I have now been blocked. Decline reason: This block appears to be a valid block resulting from your violation of a decision from this Arbitration case. It is very clear that you made this revert and did not follow up on the talk page, as you should have.— Rjd0060 (talk) 23:33, 11 April 2008 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. Comment Unjust blockMeowy you should know by now that they don't care what you say in the talkpage, as long as you say something. It can be something completely irrelevant to the article... Like accusing another member of violating a rule that you yourself just broke. Since you were unjustly blocked, here is an interesting read from the kangaroo court's noticeboard. [9]Notice how 3 admin follow each other like a sheep. So next time go ahead and tell the world something interesting, something out of the blue. After all, its the deleteionists job worry about the waste of space. --VartanM (talk) 07:18, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Interested?Hey there, I was wondering if you would be interested in editing certain parts of the new article I created about the Bagratuni Kingdom of Armenia. I started a culture section at the end but it's rather short and lacking so perhaps you add your input on history, Armenian architecture, the churches, and the like. Cheers, --Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 19:59, 16 April 2008 (UTC) Armeno-Kurdish relations in the Ottoman EmpireIn the Rise of nationalism under the Ottoman Empire article it states that "Until the Russo-Turkish War of 1828-1829 there had been little hostile feeling between the Kurds and the Armenians." I severely doubt this. But were the Kurds involved in the genocide promised a state or subscribe to any sort of Kurdish nationalism, or did they view themselves as Ottomans? Hakob (talk) 09:11, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
The anon sockpuppetIf you look through the recent history of that page, it should be apparent who the anon sock is, and they have already been penalized for evading their block. Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 22:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
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LachinPlease would you justify why you replaced the name Abdallar by Abdalyar in the article Lachin?. Thank you. --Gulmammad (talk) 00:14, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
FYI, regarding discussion at WP:ANIHi, don't be alarmed but since I mentioned your user name at WP:ANI, you might be interested in this and this. Apologies if I've mentioned your name and you didn't want to be mentioned, I will remove it if you want it removed. Pocopocopocopoco (talk) Blue Mosque of YerevanThe builders of the mosque and its worshipers wrote in the Perso-Arabic script and spoke in the Azeri dialect of Turkish. Why should the [Turkey] Turkish, with its Kemalist spelling, take precedence over the Azeri? In contemporaneous sources, it would be mentioned as Gyoy or Gyok Jami, as the Kemalist reforms took place several years later. Hakob (talk) 01:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Garni InscritpionUnfortunately the main reference to the inscription can be found in Vestnik, 3 [25], 1948, 169-181. I don't speak Russian and have no access to such material. Vestnik is a Russian archaeological review and I couldn't possibly trace it here in Athens. If you can ask anybody about it, it would be great! The Garni temple article will probably need some more editing in view of the article's information (see my talk page) but unless I make sure there is not any recent bibliography I won't try my hand on it. Be that as it may I have to thank you once more for your interest--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 17:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
I will have some more compact information on the Garni temple in the following days (I plan to visit one of the main libraries here in Athens). If you happen to log in in the meantime you can also upload the inscription you were talking about the other day. I would be happy to look it up as well--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 09:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Well, what you read is probably correct because the inscription makes no sense in Greek. It says: ΠΕΡΟΖΙ (PEROZI) [..]ΕΟΝΤΑΚ (..EONTAK) I can't tell you whether this comes from a reused block but the hole in the lower right corner shows that somebody tried at some later date to extract the iron clamps and the lead from the massonry . On the other hand, the position of the inscription on the lower line of the block might be an indication of a second use. Thanks again!--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 09:17, 5 June 2008 (UTC) HemshinIt is a frustrating article to work on because it has been reverted or significantly altered every time I have made an edit. It seems to be the only article Omer is working on - I wonder why. Hakob (talk) 01:53, 21 June 2008 (UTC) ErzurumI'll change the protection level to semi it in a few days, but there appears to be some discussion going on by several established users on the talk page. Basically, I need to be convinced that the edit war will stop if I change the protection level. Khoikhoi 20:55, 26 June 2008 (UTC) Van Resistance - OttomanReference or ArtaxiadMeowwwy, What do you like better his use of fine racist turkish propoganda sources like: Çelik, Hüseyin (2001). "The 1915 Armenian", The Armenians in the Late Ottoman Period. Ankara: Turkish Historical Society, 374. or his middle school grammar and mechanics - personally I like both. If you survey this moron to checkuser he will turn up to be the banned user artaxiad , who also gloated over Nazi Armenian connection 812 battalion article like the worst anti armenian could not have. Also a chance he is user ottomanreference - see his liberal use of turkish source and reinsertion of words including rebellion russian troops, battle of van and kurdish irregulars like ottomanreference. A checkuser and third [pary analysis should solve your problems especially since ottomanreference seems to have abandoned his account. Inaccuracies in the animated gif map of Ottoman EmpireIs there a place i can find accurate maps of the Ottoman Empire from the 19th century on? i would like to create the animated gif map with the correct information Rafaelherrejon (talk) 02:11, 3 July 2008 (UTC) A 19th century atlas perhaps. :) All maps from the 19th century are accurate. It is propagandistic maps from the 20th and 21st century that purport to show previous boundaries that will be the inaccurate maps. Personally, I would just break apart the gif file to remove all the decline part, and leave it as the expansion part. Meowy 02:16, 3 July 2008 (UTC) Sources on the HamshensHey Meowy, I recently was reading your arguments on the Hamshen article and thought perhaps that you might be interested in two articles in the Soviet Armenian Encyclopedia about them: the Hamshen dialect and the Hamshen people (SAE, vol. 6, 1980). They confirm that the Hamshenis are Armenians and that the language they speak is essentially a dialect of Armenian. I can translate to you the article about the Hamshen people relatively quickly, although the one in regards to their dialect would take a little bit more time. In either case, both articles would strongly bolster the strength of your arguments considering that they come from a very reputable and authoritative source. Drop me a line in case you're interested. Cheers, --Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 18:35, 5 July 2008 (UTC) Citations on AniHello, can you please check the Ani#Modern times section in the Ani article. There are four inline citations that do not specify the pages of the references provided. As a result I added a verification tag next to them. If i'm not wrong you added the citations, if so can you please add the page numbers. Thanks.-- Ευπάτωρ Talk!! 01:57, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
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If you have questions about this bot, please contact the Mediation Committee directly. Armenian Genocide article - Small tidyup in regards to quote/source anachronismHi I raised a topic on the talk page of the Armenian Genocide article in regards to a quote in the article framed as contemporary (~1915) using the term "fifth column", which was not coined until 1936, a historical anachronism. I've made some suggestions on the talk page about resolving the problem and seeing that you have taken a strong interest in the article in the past could you rewrite that section so that it is chronologically consistent. Thanks 58.173.52.11 (talk) 08:32, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I wanted to talk about the alleged book of Hovhannes Katchaznouni. I think it has no sense to mantain a section about that book ALLEGEDLY written by him (most of sources proving it are pro-turkish or anti-arf) in the article about the president. Aveli lav a martik ch'imanan dra masin, togh heru mna ira kensagruziuniz, vorov hetev iroq turkakan propagandaya. Khndrum em, indz ajakzi et harzum - text i masnike jnjenk. --Vitilsky (talk) 21:37, 16 September 2008 (UTC) Hey look on this edit of mine, what do you think of it? forget the merging proposal. I think my article is neutral, has neutral sources not like Adoniscik ones, and warns about that the authenticity of the book is not clear. And I did not put that "the remaining copies have been systematically expunged", I put that "It is also stated in the preface of the book that "the original was written in Armenian by H. Katchaznouni himself and then translated into Russian and printed in Tblisi in 1927" and also can be read that "remaining copies have been systematically expunged". There is a lot of difference (I talk about the content of the book, with the book as source). This only demonstrates that the book itself contains controversial and denialist content. --Vitilsky (talk) 17:12, 22 September 2008 (UTC) Oh really?(fm vacio's page)
I suggested on the talk page that your read WP:CIVIL. Did you do so because the tone and content of these comments are in my opinion in breach of WP:CIVIL. please assume good faith --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 19:03, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Crossing out postsThat was my mistake; but, I thought I already fixed it? Oh well, thanks. GoodDay (talk) 22:05, 12 October 2008 (UTC) Maintaining decorumThis was probably not your intention, but this remark could be highly insulting to Turks. Please avoid excessively strident rhetoric, such as equating a group of writers to prostitutes. There are more accurate, less inflammatory words that you can use to more effectively make the same point. Please use preview and read your remarks before posting during any sort of disagreement. Thank you. Jehochman Talk 17:10, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
TranslationHey, if you want need some translations to be done from Armenian, I'd be delighted to help. Cheers, --Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 21:11, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
FYIYou are NOT under any editing restrictions. They expired a month ago.-- Ευπάτωρ Talk!! 23:13, 21 November 2008 (UTC) The article remains a mess. I'm sorry I couldn't be of more help. It would be nice to have a copy of the Simonian handbook. For Christmas, maybe... TA-ME (talk) 10:11, 25 November 2008 (UTC) Orphaned non-free media (Image:Katchaznouni biography p236.jpg)
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Assume Good FaithAnthon.Eff's position: "The support of editors with names like "John Smith" for Armenians is no doubt due to very deep anti-Turkish prejudices, persisting from Medieval times, prejudices that can be seen in many parts of Christian European culture, such as--for example--the geographical location of the land of Mordor in Tolkein's Lord of the Rings."[11] TA-ME (talk) 03:09, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
TranslationG'day. I happened to complete the translation of Hovhannes Kajaznuni's biography and I have to say, it truly stretched by architectural vocabulary to its limits. Mevertheless, the translation, while at times may feel awkward and clunky, especially upon describing the architectural structures, remains as faithful to the original text as possible. It should be more understandable to someone who has the book and is familiar with architecture terminology. Each bullet point signifies a new paragraph and all comments in brackets are mine. Enjoy and I hope the article is of use to you:
Cheers, --Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 20:58, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
I saw your move, but unfortunately I don't feel it is uncontroversial. I won't dellist it, but think you should. I'd like to state that I personally don't have any objections or even any real knowledge about the battle, but there are some red flags. The phrase "this is the English wikipedia" gives me pause, because trying to decide which alphabet we should use is controversial. In theory it shouldn't be, but it always inevitably is. Perhaps you could list your proposal at Wikipedia:RM#Requesting_potentially_controversial_moves or start some discussion on the talk page to generate some consensus. Sorry if this isn't helpful. AniMate 02:44, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Azeri/AzerbaijaniYou cannot be serious when you claim that 'Azeri Turkish' is the only correct and prevails over 'Azerbaijani' or 'Azeri' which have been in much wider use among scholars. I am not even going to bother asking for argumentation. Morever I would refrain from pushing this claim further, if I were you, because I believe you are aware of the region's history and realities enough to know better than making such controversial statements and would not like to waste your time trying to argue something that can be easily disputed and proven inaccurate. Parishan (talk) 23:30, 29 December 2008 (UTC) Gorky's paintingHi Meowy, you are absolutely right. My mistake! Good day. Serouj (talk) 22:39, 9 February 2009 (UTC) Can you help me nominate, or better yet, nominate "Kurdish genocide (WWI)" for deletion yourself?Thanks in advance. -- Mttll (talk) 01:13, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
So did you nominate it yet? Where can I see it? -- Mttll (talk) 17:37, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
I wan to, but I can't. Can you do it for me? -- Mttll (talk) 06:33, 24 February 2009 (UTC) NakhichevanI'm undoing this only because copy-and-paste moves are very bad things. Don't copy and paste the current article over; if anything, move (by submitting a move request, since an existing article is there) the article, since it's currently primarily about the NAR, and then make a new article at the current location about the region. --Golbez (talk) 02:45, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Monuments and stonesI note that in this diff, you changed tuff to tufa. These are extremely dissimilar types of stone, and tuff has substantial use in construction. Are you sure about that change? DS (talk) 16:11, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Geologically the two rock types are quite distinct in composition and origin. The respective Wiki articles do a pretty good job of describing each. The problem arises, as your defs show, because architects and stoneworkers make their own definitions usually based soley on workability and structural competence. The last def completely smerges the two distinct rock types and is rather unhelpful. Given that tuff is composed of predominately silicate rock fragments and glass while tufa is made of calcium carbonate, it should be quite simple to distinguish between the two with a bit of dilute HCl - if it fizzes it's tufa. Of course a porous tuff may well have carbonate deposited within the pores by groundwater circulation, always complications. As Awickert stated on the the geo board, the monument looks like tuff, but can't tell much from a picture. Send us a chunk and we'll tell you what it is :-) End result: find out whether the rock used is volcanic ashfall or calcareous hot spring in origin and state the nature of the beast with some kind of disclaimer about the local/regional usage of the term tufa. Vsmith (talk) 15:23, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
Svante_CornellEnforcing WP:BLP, I removed a talk page violation, a comment insulting Svante Cornell.[12] Your response to the comment in question was also removed out of necessity, though it did not contain a violation. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 20:24, 4 March 2009 (UTC) Mehmed TalatWhere would you prefer the new published information be mentioned in the Mehmed Talat article? Was this;
not acceptable? --Kansas Bear (talk) 15:46, 17 March 2009 (UTC) re NK protectionAs a protecting admin, I protect things on the wrong version; picking a different wrong version after the fact would kind of negate the whole concept. As for it "not being an edit war", in the past 48 hours there have been 7 reverts with zero other edits. There is discussion going on; both sides can learn to wait until the discussion is over to continue editing. --Golbez (talk) 03:18, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Heads UpYou are being discussed here. Cardamon (talk) 05:54, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for at least warning meThanks. Ibrahim4048 (talk) 21:52, 23 March 2009 (UTC) Where I standYou seem to be unclear as to where I stand on the issue of the armenian genocide. I am not trying to promote any view. I am not a propagandist. I have no personal agenda, except to pursue compromise and honest truth. I am not currently an admin-hopeful, or even close to it. I am not trying to stamp out any POV material, or introduce it. I am not trying to threaten you. I am not "siding" with Ibrahim, he is simply not opposed to mediation as he had been at one point, and is trying to reach a compromise. I do not act in bad faith, taking wikibreaks anytime I think I may be getting a little too hot. I just want you to know where I stand. Tealwisp (talk) 01:09, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Concerning your involvement: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Arbitration_enforcement#AA2_breach. brandспойт 14:08, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy). Meowy (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: As a general point, I dispute the fact that AA2 is still in force and I am under its restrictions. However, for this spicific issue, I was reverting undisputable vandalism by Elsanaturk who had removed a legitimately inserted POV tag three times from an article [13], [14], [15], without giving any reasoning or discussion about its removal in the article's talk page. In that talk page I had given several compelling reasons why the article should have pov tag, and had also suggested directions that could be taken to remove it. I also gave proper explanations in the edit summary, explanations which Elsanaturk chose to studiously ignore. In what way did these edits, quote, "repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process"? If anything, it was the editor whose edits I was reverting that were guilty of it! I also question why Brandmeister waited a week to make this complaint. Decline reason: Merely because you call it vandalism, does not mean that it is. This looks like a clear content dispute/edit war and this block looks fully justified. Also, since this block request does not contain any assurances that you intend to stop violating the rules, I am declining this request. Jayron32.talk.contribs 18:36, 29 March 2009 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. Meowy (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: Jayron32's comments are bizarre, without a basis in reason, and seem deliberately aggressive. A validly-inserted pov tag should not be removed until the reasons for its insertion are resolved. That is what it says on the tag, quote: "Please do not remove this message until the dispute is resolved". Also, here [[16]] "If your sole contribution to an article is to repeatedly add or remove the tag, chances are high that you are abusing your "right" to use the tag". Elsanaturk repeatedly removed the pov tag before the issue was resolved, in fact that editor made no attempt at all to resolve it, ignoring what was written in the talk page. So why is restoring a legitimately-inserted pov tag a "content dispute/edit war"? How was my restoring of it doing damage or disruption that justified a block? And in what way does restoring it "fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process" that would deserve a block under AA2? All this took place a week ago and the article has remained unchanged since then - so, it's hardly an "edit war" and it seems that Elsanaturk has realised the error of removing the tag (and nobody has disputed its validity). What rules is jayron32 claiming that I have violated? I legitimately restored an illegitimately removed pov tag, I gave a detailed explanation in the article's talk page about the npov allegation, and I gave a proper, politely-worded, edit summary for each revert made to restore the removed pov tag. I have not done any damage or caused any disruption. So why the block? Decline reason: Pointless request. You're on restrictions, you violated them, you're unapologetic. Case closed. Please do not waste time with another appeal. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 15:07, 30 March 2009 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. Meowy (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: This is my third atempt to get either a proper justification for this block, or to get the block lifted. What restrictions have I violated? I reinserted three times a pov tag that had been improperly removed three times. In what way did this action fall under the "repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process" wording of AA2? And in what way did it do damage or disruption deserving of a block? If my block is valid, why did the administrator who gave me it for my three good-faith reverts refuse to give Elsanaturk a block for his three reverts that incorrectly removed the pov tag? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Arbitration_enforcement#AA2_breach, despite Elsanaturk being under both AA1 and AA2 restrictions? Decline reason: Your restrictions are listed on your own talk page; you violated these restrictions [not for the first time] and so you were given a rather lenient block. You've not addressed the block reason, and since I told you not to waste our time with another but you still did, I'm forced to lock your page. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 16:07, 30 March 2009 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Re:I don't believe I have come in contact with him before. Nevertheless, redress seems necessary over here, as there was no point in warning Elsanturk of the 3RR, nor even the 1RR, since he is a long-established user and clearly broke the 1RR set by the ArbComs. I have to say his silence in pointing out these irregularities is deafening. Another admin. should perhaps investigate his flippant attitude towards the report of the violation.--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 23:47, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Yes I did notice that. Deacon of Pndapetzim thinks it is "stale" for Elsanturk, but not "stale" for me - though both alleged infractions occured at exactly the same time! And before he wrote that I had pointed out in my appeal to lift the block that the event had happened 6 days earlier, yet he ignored it. It seems to be another case of unabashed bias. Meowy 01:04, 1 April 2009 (UTC) April 2009{{unblock|Your reason here}} below. Sandstein 13:20, 5 April 2009 (UTC)Meowy (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: Sandstein's block appears to be based on his assumption that I have made two reverts to the same article within a week. I have not made two reverts. The first edit, [17], was reinserting a map that had been removed from the article over a week earlier [18] by Atabəy. It was removed by him without discussion immediately after the page had been unprotected [19]. My second edit, [20], which was a revert, was reinserting the map after it had been removed again. I also discussed that reversion on the page's talk page [21] as required. I do not wish Sandstein's co-worker, Deacon of Pndapetzim, to be involved in this appeal. Decline reason: Both edits were reverts. The fact that the first took place a few days after the edit it reverted is does not excuse it. Indeed you could have not have reverted it (without penalty) at the time because you were compelled to wait due to your revert of 27 March. What is more, the first and second reverts were clearly the continuation of an edit-war over the map involving a number of users. CIreland (talk) 11:43, 6 April 2009 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
This is just to note that Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk · contribs) is not my "co-worker"; in fact, I do not know him or her. Also, your first edit was a revert as well because it restored a part of the page (the map part of the infobox) to a previous state; WP:3RR defines a revert as "any action, including administrative actions, that reverses the actions of other editors, in whole or in part." Sandstein 05:27, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Meow back re:SivasI agree with you here. Ideally, I would like to write a good, well-rounded article that covers more aspects of the city's history. In the meantime, though, I think that the massacre - although significant - is perhaps dominating the article more than necessary. I'll give it a trim; let me know what you think. Thanks, Kafka Liz (talk) 02:13, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Voilà. I don't know how interested you'll be in the inscriptions, but there they are. I've got one more - a relief of the world leaders in 1914-1915 - but I need to crop someone out of it before I put it up. Kafka Liz (talk) 20:02, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 ...and here is the other picture I was talking about. I'll see if I can't whip up a .pdf of the relevant information from the Bryer book. Kafka Liz (talk) 18:49, 9 May 2009 (UTC) Thank youThanks for the advice. I must confess, your words and the experience that you share sound intimidating to us new users. What good are our efforts if other users with certain privileges are able to overturn them? I thank you for the invite on the Khorenats'i page but I'm finding it rather interesting in standing by the sidelines while all the parties work out the details. I will perhaps learn a great deal just by observing than actually participating in those discussions. --The Diamond Apex (talk) 14:48, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for objectivityToday you first added a [citation needed] to Urartian-Language topic. I thought you just hated the info written in there and wanted to erase it. Than you found needed source to reference it and edited it again. Wanted to thank you for objectivity... You are so kind Nakh 12:31, 17 August 2009 (UTC) ANI incivilityFYI Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Meowy incivility --PBS (talk) 10:18, 2 May 2009 (UTC) genocides in historyUser:Meowy you are under an arbcom restriction the "Azerbaijani Khojaly" section of the genocides in history article or any that relate to the region of Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Iran mentioned in the arbcom restriction apply. As you have reverted edits to that section twice within a week,[28][29] revert your last revert or face further restrictions. --PBS (talk) (LoA) 15:25, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Email?Dude, you haven't got? Kafka Liz (talk) 04:15, 16 May 2009 (UTC) Have got. Try it now. Meowy 16:52, 16 May 2009 (UTC) 3 day blockI've blocked you for 3 days as a result of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Meowy. In the future please do not use alternate accounts in anyway that can be considered abusive, and especially do not use alternate accounts on anything remotely related to Armenia-Azerbaijan. All parties to Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan_2 have been warned about multiple accounts by the arbitration committee. See Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan_2#Sockpuppet_abuse. In short you should know better, you have been told along with everyone else in that case that abusive sockpuppetry is not permitted. —— nixeagleemail me 17:02, 18 May 2009 (UTC) <personal attack removed> Meowy (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: I seem to be under continuous harrasement by an administrator named Philip Baird Shearer. I am not Onlyoneanswer, I have no idea who Onlyoneanswer is, and I have at no time engaged in any communication with that editor. Philip Baird Shearer has, within the space of a month, tried to get me blocked three times because I dared to oppose his POV opinions regarding the Armenian Genocide. I was given no chance to defend myself and he didn't even bother to make a checkuser request. What possible reason would I use a sockpuppet for? What gain is there? This is just an attempt by PBS to silence two editors who are opposing his opinions with facts and arguments he cannot refute, and it is a disgraceful abuse of his administrator powers. Decline reason: Sockpuppet or not, your personal attack directed toward Philip Baird Shearer above is bad enough for me to decline this request per WP:NPA. PeterSymonds (talk) 01:50, 19 May 2009 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. Meowy (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: If an administrator wants to block me for personal attacks then I'm fine by that - I stand by every word I said about Philip Baird Shearer, he is beneath contempt. However, I am being accused of something that I did not do, I am being acccused of acting dishonestly - I realise that probably means little to most administrators, (count that as another "personal attack" if you wish) - but in the real world, complaints about wikipedia-style "personal attacks" would just be laughed at, and false accusations like those made by PBS would end in litigation and heavy penalties. I am not Onlyoneanswer, I have no idea who Onlyoneanswer is, and I have at no time engaged in any communication with that editor. Decline reason: I stopped reading after the first sentence. See WP:NOTTHEM. Sandstein 05:25, 19 May 2009 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
My apologies for the block, I honestly saw a connection, based on the evidence given and what I found, but it turns out that the sock account was actually someone elses sock as later confirmed by checkuser. The evidence seemed to me to be a strong connection, but turned out to be not related at all. I really don't know what else to say other then I goofed up. I will probably need to take a break from doing sock puppet investigations for a week or two. I hope my mistake has not impacted your plans too much. —— nixeagleemail me 06:24, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
OnlyoneanswerDear Nixeagle, I fully accept your apology re my sockpuppet blocking mistake, but I wonder if part of that connection you saw was there because you assumed that, since an administrator was making the allegation, it was likely to be true. If an ordinary editor makes a sockpuppet allegation the accused is normally given the time to respond, and there would be checkuser evidence. When you do sock puppet investigations, it would b e good to make sure accused editors actually know about the allegations before giving a verdict, and try to give them enough time to reply. Meowy 17:06, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
And yet another fake sockpuppet allegation done to silence even more editors. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:The_Diamond_Apex Meowy 22:00, 3 June 2009 (UTC) ArbitrationLooks like you exceeded your revert parole: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Meowy. brandспойт 17:42, 22 May 2009 (UTC) May 2009{{unblock|Your reason here}} below. Sandstein 06:21, 23 May 2009 (UTC)Meowy (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: I have been blocked as part of an ongoing campaign of harrasement by Sandstein, and not for any legitimate reason. It isn't worth wasting more time on this appeal since all Wikipedia admins seem to be a contemptable bunch. Decline reason: Not worth wasting time on coming up with a decline reason. OhNoitsJamie Talk 18:57, 23 May 2009 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. GoshavankHi Meowy
Personal attacksWikipedia does not tolerate ridiculous, unfounded comments like this. Get your facts straight. Marshall has already admitted that The Diamond Apex is essentially a meatpuppet. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 12:36, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Afghans and ChechensYou need to elaborate. Also where is that "specific definition"?-- Ευπάτωρ Talk!! 19:29, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
RAA & photographsThat's of course understandable - and coherent. Sardur (talk) 21:20, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi Meowy, I think your location for Arakelots is correct. It's the same one we've got at the FR article for Arakelots. It's a loss to the world that you won't allow permissions of your images (which I haven't seen) for Wikipedia. May I ask the sites (churches, etc.) for which you have pictures? Serouj (talk) 21:08, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Van Kedisi PicDear Meowy, I do the editing of the article on Van cat in Russian Wikipedia. I would ask you to give your permission to insert you pic of Van Kedisi pic. I hope to "meet" you again at Van cat page in English Wikipedia.Best wishes.--Zara-arush (talk) 18:00, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your permission. I am not going to use anything for propaganda. I have my understanding and I believe that the breed of Vana katu is endangered with all-whitening. I do not know, if you are interested in feline breeding and what you know about feline genetics. W- gene bears nothing good for the cats that were bred by the ancesters and preserved to our times. I am acting here under my own name and numerous people had read my articles both in English and Russian. But I have no idea about who you are and why you are so much interested in participation in Armenian projects in Wikipedia. I do not have more time to study, what you had written or edited here, but the titles implicate that you are too much anxious about. But your attitude to Van cats does not correspond to your sympathy to Armenian culture and history. I will not participate in any propaganda activities, but I will respond to other group's propaganda against for instance Vana katu. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zara-arush (talk • contribs) 00:48, 17 July 2009 (UTC) --Zara-arush (talk) 00:54, 17 July 2009 (UTC) --Zara-arush (talk) 00:54, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Meowy had written: "What is your reasoning - you hate Turks so much that you deny the existence of the genuine Van Cat population in Turkey?" I cannot understand, what makes you think about my "race-hatred against Turks ", as you had written in TUVs article discussion page. How may a man hate natural calamities or acts of God? The Turks are the same natural calamity. The time will pass, and the nature will recover after this natural calamity as it did within the millenia. We know it, and the Turks know it. That's why they try to substitute all that is possible in the land that the Creator named "Partez". The same is with the reconstruction of our churches, when the form of the church is substituted with the form of simple cube that the Armnenians had never used for churches, and inside it is painted with white lime. Or the restoration of Akhtamar Surb Khach Church, which is done so clumsy that it is hardly may be named a reconstruction. The same is with Van cat or "Van'a Gadu", as you named it, forgetting that it is pronounced the same "vana katu". And why should I object to the geneticist, who proved that the genetic signature (haplotype) of TUVs is 1) unique, 2) belongs to the same genetic group as TUAs, Anatoli and random-bred cat population of modern Turkey, Egypt, 3) the TUVs that differentiate from the haplotype of the main group, were imported from Turkey and were Ankara Kedisi mixes. So, this statement is the fruit of your imagination also. Your idea about "Superior Armenian" is also too clumsy, because I do not suffer with inferiority complex to waste my time, thinking in this direction. These are your suppositions, and it means your personal thoughts. As for the Turks that you are so much worried about: First they used vana katu-s to tortune the Armenians, then they did all to reduce their number, then they opened this concentration camp for all-white cats, and started to carry on reseach on how the food influences the cat eye color, i.e what food the odd-eyed cats eat that their eyes became odd. And so on. Any offer to discuss the health and genetics of both TUVs and Van Kedisi you pass over in silence. You reply only with unsupported accusations directed against me. Best wishes. --Zara-arush (talk) 21:47, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
My dear Mr/Ms Meowy I enjoy our communication more and more. Thanks to you I learn numerous things and refresh, what I lernt, while a student. In search of the source to prove you that I do not mix both complexis I found the first source - Wikipedia article about superiority complex. The first sentense runs: "Superiority complex refers to a subconscious neurotic mechanism of compensation developed by the individual as a result of feelings of inferiority". That is why I replied you that I do not suffer from inferiority complex. Why, because I am used to work hard all my life and always did my home tasks, when a student. Unfortunately, when I speak with al-white Van Kedisi fanciers and breeders they are used not to comprehend what they read. Please, try to understand, what I say (once more): The red-and-white van-patterned cats originated in the region of Van several thousands years ago, because these two mutations (white-spotting at its maximum degree and red color) happened much earlier than further luxory mutations in cats. The red color in ancient world considered special. For instance, Ancient Egypt - red tom cat - the personification of Ra - sun god. The similar attitude towards red color mutations had the ancient Armenian (you may name them proto-Armenian) tribes (if you dislike just the word Armenians). The color of traditional TUV is named in Armenian "tsirani" - the color of sunrise/dawn. Please, remember that Vahagn was born by "Tsovn Tsirani". "Tsirani" is named not after they color of "tsiran" - apricot, but vice versa. The same color has Karabagh hourse. It has the color that is by mistake is now called "narinj". If we study further, we may find out other examples. Do you wish me go on in research about domestic animals? If you do want, I will consider, you found out the way to cick me out from here, because if I go on in this field, I will need at least other 8 years, because I study cats since 2001. After the Armenians adopted Christianity, the selective breeding of pagan cult animals became impossible. The cats mates as they wanted. So, even under the conditions that there had not been cats, imported from other regions (or better to say cats of other genetic groups), the color and patterns could be mixed. When the cats became commercial goods that were transported to Europe, other parts of Asia and Russia, the most desired phenotypes were all-white, smoke, deluted, and of course all these with long hair, the murchants paid for this color cats. Those, who bred the cats, started to mix their cats with all-white for export, including Van cats. But the original population had been red van-patterned, otherwise is impossible, based on the rules of genetics.
Thank you very much for your explanations. I do not know Turkish, thus I understood only "Van" and that the Turkish archeologist found a cat skull in some fortress in Van. As well as that they were going to do DNA analysis to find out if the sceleton belonged to Van cat. If you know Turkish, may you be helpful with the interpretation of what it means: "to bite someone at ankle"? I cannot find the answer for years. Thank you in advance.--Zara-arush (talk) 18:07, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Thank you again, I will correct myself, when mention the place the next time. I managed to have the report on Bian Kedi. Also I'll be thankful, if you help with the translation or better interpreting of the proverb. What did Ataturk mean actually? And here is the link to "group-portrait" of the most part of recognized cat breeds, including TUVs [34]I mean the data of the article on feline genotypes.--Zara-arush (talk) 01:44, 26 July 2009 (UTC) Svante CornellYou may be interested in checking up on my commentary on the Wikipedia Article regarding Svante Cornell, who has been called a hack by Mark Ames, and no one has yet come up with criticisms of Ames' works on this war. HistoricWarrior007 (talk) 03:40, 10 July 2009 (UTC) Can you figure out how to put the links in, check the grammar, etc. Once it's good to go, I'm putting this in the article: Since Svante Cornell's recent article on the War in South Ossetia, he has come under heavy criticism. Peter LaVelle, who currently works for Russia Today but has worked for Radio Free Europe in the past called Svante Cornell "Saakashvili's Lipstick Artist".(LINK) Mark Ames, an independent journalist covering the War in South Ossetia for the The Nation, stated that Svante Cornell's writing was hysterical and accused Svante Cornell of wanting to restart the Cold War with Russia for Cornell's financial gain. (LINK) In addition Ames criticized the Silk Road Studies for previously taking bribe money from Kazakstan's government. (LINK) Mark Ames is a fierce Putin critic whose paper was kicked out of Moscow(LINK). Svante Cornell stated that "Russia shuts out the international community". (LINK) However, with the exception of Georgia, no country has suspended Diplomatic Relations with Russia over this war, and one country does not count as an international community."
No personal attacksYou've had enough warnings and blocks about civility to know better. This edit was not acceptable, regardless of your prior disputes with the editor in question; please apologise to dab. Thank you. Fences&Windows 16:19, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Written by dab, all within the last few days:
p.s. Totally off-topic: you might want to archive your old talk page threads. See Help:Archiving a talk page. Fences&Windows 00:38, 26 July 2009 (UTC) I seemed to remember Meowy as a good editor. I must have confused them. My comments were exactly appropriate to the problem at hand, and they were not even addressed at Meowy, whom I would have expected to help protect the article against the patriotic trolling. Meowy, here is a newsflash for you: Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. This includes a lot of people who have no clue, or who even want to maliciously modify content. Most people, indeed most admins, prefer to look the other way. I have made a habit of addressing these issues in the spirit of WP:SPADE. If you dislike my calling the goings on at the Armenia related article "trolling by teenage patriots", perhaps you could consider helping Wikipedia in defending the articles against the teenage patriot trolls instead of shooting the messenger pointing out that they are under attack. --dab (𒁳) 13:27, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
ThanksThanks for defending me Meowy. I appreciate it. Lida Vorig (talk) 04:48, 8 August 2009 (UTC) Uncivil languageI am very shocked and offended by your use of language in the Highland talkpage in which you said:
This is highly uncivil talk and I ask for an apology. Neftchi (talk) 09:10, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Said Nursi's life on Mount VaragThere is no detailed information about his life on Varag most probably because he didn't want it to be mentioned. But in his works he describes the place he lived as "ruins like a cave". And there is another detail: Zernebad Waters. He lived near here. I didn't see the place so I can't describe it exactly. He went there after his quarrel-like experience with Mustafa Kemal. He continued to teach his students there on the Mountain and later he was arrested and exiled. He was charged of involving in the revolt led by Şeyh Said although he wasn't. Those are all the details you can find in the books. If you want more, you should see one of his few living stutents :) OnurtheAgha (talk) 10:41, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Duduk page changesCan you please help out on the Duduk page. These certain editors and removing Armenian info, and putting Turkish origins. This has been reverted also by Eupator and others. Please help out. Non-Armenians even know the Armenian origins of Duduk, specially from 2000 movie Gladiator by Gasparyan. Monlonet (talk) 18:42, 19 August 2009 (UTC) Can you help out? This time he removed the Armenian sources we provided above or the origins. 76.237.11.155 (talk) 16:22, 22 August 2009 (UTC) KhachkarDid you know that every single khachkar in the world is or was Caucasian Albanian? At least that's what a couple of editors want to prove. I've reverted their vandalism twice but am aware that I'm subject to those farcical AA/AA2 revert restrictions. I think this recent onslaught might have something to do with the Azerbaijani website Today.Az asking their readers to "correct" Armenia/Azerbaijan-related articles.[36] TA-ME (talk) 12:31, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Arbitration enforcementDue to multiple violations of editing restrictions, I have filed a request for Arbitration Enforcement at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Meowy. Camaron · Christopher · talk 11:52, 29 August 2009 (UTC) BlockedI have blocked you for one month for violating these editing restrictions. To appeal your block, please add {{unblock|Your reason here}} to your user talk page. Sincerely, NW (Talk) 22:18, 29 August 2009 (UTC) Meowy (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: I do not understand why I have been blocked? I have been blocked under Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2#Amended Remedies and Enforcement - but the article and the edits have nothing to do with Armenia! I am not limited to one revert per page per week for every Wikipedia article, only for articles that fall under AA2. The Eurovision article does not fall under AA2, neither do the Eurovision and the WikiProject Eurovision talk pages, where Camaron claims I have breached AA2 by failing to assume good faith. Where is the word "Armenia" mentioned http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Eurovision_Song_Contest_2009#Dealing_with_criticism_and_controversy and what has any of that discussion got to do with Armenia? I've never mentioned Armenia in any of these postings that Camaron has used as evidence of AA2 breaches. All of the edits were simply concerned with the unjustified insertion of pov tags into Eurovision articles, and nothing more than that. Camaron can't claim that the tags themselves are connected to Armenia-related content because he has point-blank refused to say why the tags are there! I also don't know why they are there!! Decline reason: Procedural decline. You'll have to e-mail ArbCom directly per this. Smashvilletalk 14:58, 1 September 2009 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. Meowy (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: Smashville, as is to be exected of a Wikipedia administrator, is behaving like a slimy creature with no backbone. He is also displaying another defining characteristic of slimy creatures - their bad eyesight: WP:IAR trumps this. I have given a series of good reasons why the reason for this block is completely without substance. So least go through the motions before rejecting my appeal! Some months ago, I suggested that Wikipedia administrators should be lending their services to the regime of a certain southeast Asian country that was needing some advice on legal matters regarding an ongoing vendetta they were pursuing. I now know why that suggestion was not taken up - seems that Burma is just far too democratic for Wikipeda administrators: over there they still have time-consuming show trials with a pretense of legality, rather than just doing it the Wikipedia way (a quick walk out back, ending with a bullet to the head). Decline reason: I agree that Smashville's review was a bit of a time-waster. Still, this unblock request is without merit. You claim the edits on Eurovision Song Contest 2009 are not related to the AA2 case? It's obvious that they are: the tag was immediately preceding a section on Armenia-Azerbaijan controversy that you have been involved in editing. The tag tended to criticize that material -- yes, along with other material -- so this is definitely covered by the sanctions. Your violations of WP:AGF documented in the Arbcom Enforcement request are similarly related to AA2. The admin who blocked you discounted your 1 revert-per-week violation at Azerbaijan but I still want to point out that I do find that of concern also. The duration is justified given your track record. Finally, your specific edit restriction (#1 in the list) says you are on 1-revert-per-week restriction, period, it doesn't say only on Armenia/Azerbaijan-related articles: [37]. Finally, let me point out that your comments about Smashville, however provoked, are a further violation of WP:CIVIL and WP:AGF. So, no, I don't see that there's any real reason to reconsider this block. Mangojuicetalk 03:20, 6 September 2009 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. I guess I've only myself to blame. I probably gave Camaron the idea to use AA2 to block me. See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ASandstein&diff=309257017&oldid=309154219 "AA2 is so vague and so badly drafted, and has had so many versions and rewrites, and is so intellectually and morally hollow, that you can read into it whatever you wish, Using AA2 it would be quite feasable for an editor to be given a lifetime ban for making 3 reverts on an article about a Greek football team, if an administrator had a mind to do it". Greece is in UEFA, so is Armenia, so an article about a Greek team is "Armenia-related" (or Turkey, or Azerbaijan related). Armenia is in the Eurovision competition, so the article is "Armenia-related". Meowy 02:18, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
In my short interaction with him, I discovered that he was just made an administrator few days before he blocked you. Maybe he was feeling pressured to be tough. Is there is a probation period for the wiki administrators like a certain numbers of blocks they issue per month? Anyway I felt that you were blocked because you were openly opposing the other administrator, so the other one blocked you. "You mess with one of us, you mess with all of us" kinda deal. If you were to write a complaint about both of them, I will gladly sign under it. Lida Vorig (talk) 22:32, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Block extended due to block evasionI've extended your block until Nov 1st 2009 due to checkuser evidence which clearly shows that you've been editing as Tamamtamamtamam (talk · contribs) and as an IP since you were blocked on Aug. 29th.. Please don't continue to do this sort of thing. --Versageek 06:49, 16 September 2009 (UTC) Khachkar articleI saw that
Foreign namesAs we discussed, I initiated a discussion here: [38] Please comment. Thanks. Grandmaster 08:09, 13 November 2009 (UTC) Re: this article...I'm frightened even to look. Kafka Liz (talk) 23:18, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Bridge of AniHi Meowy! Not sure you understand French though, but you may be interested: http://www.armenews.com/article.php3?id_article=56196
Notice[39]--Tznkai (talk) 04:46, 20 November 2009 (UTC) HeyJust out of curiosity, are you fluent in Armenian? HistoricWarrior007 (talk) 00:06, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi Meowy. I just reverted an undiscussed redirect here and wanted to ask if you could help keep an eye on the discussion (assuming, of course, that some takes place). Thanks, Kafka Liz (talk) 21:50, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
You have more experience of Wikipedia than I do. Can you request a move of İznik pottery to Iznik pottery so that the spelling is consistent throughout? Marshall46 (talk) 09:18, 1 December 2009 (UTC) Reworking the Van Resistance articleHello there, I'm thinking that for we have to tear down 70-80% of the material on the Van Resistance article and salvage whatever we can. I personally have my reservations against some of the sources which are used, most notably Stanford Shaw and Edward J. Erickson, both of whom deny that the Armenian Genocide took place. The Armenian Soviet Encyclopedia article on the resistance at Van is of very of good quality, but I also have the Van/Vaspurakan volume edited by Richard G. Hovannisian, which includes several sections on demographics and the resistance itself. I'll begin editing once I have more time but I don't think I'll be able to edit the article by myself and I would like to know your opinion on how to salvage the current mess that it is in. p.s., can you please archive this talk page already?! :) Cheers, --Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 03:59, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Happy Christmas
And a ping-let. Kafka Liz (talk) 20:05, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
ANIHello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Brand[t] 07:41, 22 December 2009 (UTC) Shnorhavor Amanor ev Surb Tsnund!Happy 2010 and Merry Christmas! With best wishes, --Zara-arush (talk) 19:28, 5 January 2010 (UTC) SeyranI have removed the disputed content please attempt to either request a comment as regards this content to bring the issue to a wider audience or attempt to find a consensus between the involvd editors, regards. Off2riorob (talk) 20:37, 13 January 2010 (UTC) Do you want to.report him, he appears not to care about policy? Off2riorob (talk) 01:15, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Arbitration enforcement topic banThis is to inform you that, for the reasons explained at WP:AE, under the authority of WP:ARBAA2#Amended Remedies and Enforcement, you are indefinitely banned from commenting on any arbitration enforcement request (on any page) related to Armenia or Azerbaijan where you are not either the requesting editor or the subject of the request. Sandstein 19:49, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
The next time you claim propaganda etc., you should tell why it has to do with the report in question. In that case, it was Neftchi insertion of propaganda and revert warring on it. See here my reply to the material which was initialy inserted by Brandmeister which he wrongly pretended to be backed by 3rd party source, which of course was not accurate. Administrators are to lazy to check the cause of the revert warring, so your message came as if it was off-topic when it concerned the cause of the revert warring in the article Azerbaijani culture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Papabu (talk • contribs) 19:42, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
yes! but one on-topic exemple would have been better than no exemple at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Papabu (talk • contribs) 20:26, 26 January 2010 (UTC) Gaziantep Museum of ArchaeologyGyaah. Thanks for catching that - I don't know where my brain was. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:39, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Please see this report at WP:AE: [40] Thanks. Grandmaster 08:21, 13 March 2010 (UTC) Arbitration enforcement blockYou have had many opportunities to stop edit warring and battle zone behavior. Your block this time is one year.[41] The last block was a month, and you socked to evade that one. Jehochman Talk 13:05, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
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Indeed, good to see you back! Sardur (talk) 22:35, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
Welcome back!I almost forgot that you've been gone for almost all this time :p Also, can you archive this talk one of these days whenever you get the chance? :)--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 07:40, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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