I am Rick Henderson (Rickh99) the author of the history on the Wrights. I have spent years researching the Wright family history, relying on the works of various historians and the Wright Papers at Library & Archives Canada, Banque des archives nationaux du Quebec and the Wright Papers at the Gatineau Valley Historical Society's archives. My book is self-published and I did include it as a reference. I wasn't aware that including it as a reference would constitute a conflict of interest. Taking it out is simple and then the change can be made with the other reference only. Please advise if taking down the reference to my book is required. I have created a user page now with the stated disclosure, as per instructions. I understand, as well, that I should use the talk page from now on in pages where this conflict is possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rickh99 (talk • contribs) 19:18, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Rickh99: Thanks for writing. Paid editing is highly discouraged on Wikipedia. I would strongly recommend you not use sources you have written yourself. Also, the map you keep referring to. I looked it up in the Archives of Canada and it's tiny. I highly doubt you were able to obtain the information from it which you claimed in your edit. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:00, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Magnolia677: The map is actually quite readable and gives the information I had put on the page. It is one of dozens of maps that show that information. Why would I lie? Especially considering that changing the info from his last name (Wright) to his first name (Philemon) doesn't seem like too much of a stretch. It seems to me that what is important is the info and although I understand your intervention, I am having some difficulty understand your reluctance to post easily verifiable and non-controversial info on a page. No matter, I think I will give up on this. For whatever other reason there might be, the info won't be posted. Thanks for your help.
Foxy Brown edit
There are many articles about her endorsement deals so I don’t understand why my work if being deleted? If it is typed into google, the sources will come up so what’s your problem? Also I wanted to do a ‘Legacy’ edit but If I talk about how she was influential and what and what not, how would I include a reference? Don’t be stupid and let me do it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Foxboogiebrown (talk • contribs) 20:24, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
How do I get the article back that I was doing so I can add references?
Regarding your reverting my most recent edit to the Moncton article. The Dumont Hospital is operated by the Vitalite Health Authority which does operate in French (providing bilingual service), the Moncton Hospital is operated by the Horizon Health Authority, whose working language is English (but providing bilingual service). However, I will defer to your opinion in this regard. Moncton Hospital in the article. It was formerly included in the article, but was removed by someone. The Moncton Hospital is the larger and busier of the two hospitals in Moncton so I think the picture belongs there. I hope this is acceptable. MonctonRad (talk) 13:40, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@MonctonRad: In fact, you reverted my entire edit and added back the unsourced content. I checked the websites for both hospitals, and this one says nothing about being English-only. Also, please add new comments to a talk page at the bottom. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:53, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Magnolia677 - please refer to the document in this link http://laws.gnb.ca/en/showpdf/cs/2011-c.217.pdf. It is quite lengthy, but section 19(1) clearly states "Regional Health Authority A/Régie régionale de la santé A shall operate in French and Regional Health Authority B/Régie régionale de la santé B shall operate in English." Authority "A" is now known as Vitalite and Authority "B" is now known as "Horizon"
MonctonRad (talk) 00:11, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Place title here
Hi most of the edits I considered minor. Some re-organizing of the flow of the content, new headings, spelling corrections.
Can you identify the specific entries that concern you so I can comply?
Should I reference the Yamhelas, Sarah Hall Ladd, information even though they have wiki entries?
I can cite the City's website for the councilors I added. Anything else?
Thanks for your help
Regarding Carlton, Oregon, if you look at what I deleted you will see that much of what was added was unsourced (or unsourced was moved and re-written). In general, when you discuss information found in another Wikipedia article, you should add a source. I've added a welcome message to your talk page which has many helpful links. Feel free to ask if you have questions.Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:59, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
User:Agentcru
Hi Magnolia, I made some comments that you left on my talk page - can you please check those out? Is there a better workflow for these discussions then for me to notify you on your page? Agentcru (talk) 00:12, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Spartansburg History
I am a native of Spartansburg along with the other user CaSitterly, but I have to say that history of communities defines their personality. What do you have against my info I added years ago? History is what gives towns . When most people drive from Meadville towards Corry via Route 77 the signs show Spartansburg. The story of Spartansburg must be shared. Back when I first edited and added that history section I didn't learn coding, now I do know. Please allow the History section back. I know that you may not care about us, but consider an offer just assist with sourcing. That's all I'm asking for, please allow me to add my knowledge from the book oz. History of Crawford County, that is my number one source for all lesser known Communities.
With Desperation,
Joshua J Long aka Largo96 Largo96 (talk) 16:13, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Unsourced Edits
I saw that you undid many of my edits as unsourced. Though I started editing wikipedia several years ago, I stopped for several years, and just got back into helping out. I re-read the documents, but am still a bit unsure - do you mind posting a good link about how often to source? Thanks in advance, sengbe7 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sengbe7 (talk • contribs) 21:55, 20 August 2018 (UTC) I just saw your comment to another reader about the Help Referencing for Beginners. I am going to go through that first. Thanks! Sengbe7 (talk) 22:05, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Magnolia, I noticed that you have reverted the edit on Lil Durk’s wiki but he is signed to Alamo & Interscope Records now. He just released a single under them called Spin The Block Jevon Tompkins (talk) 02:45, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There is Only one Spartansburg in the USA
The Information you shared I find conflicted is that there's only one Spartansburg. Could you just allow some flexibility? If you insist upon removing "outsource" input I won't back down all I ask just add references, please allow me to have my right to add history of Spartansburg. I support myself and CaSitterly user. Largo96 (talk) 16:43, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Largo96: Thanks for writing. Spartansburg sounds like a lovely place. I looked back on what I removed and it was mostly unsourced stuff about the town, but it looks like it would be pretty easy to source. Let me look around and see if I can dig up some sources for the edits. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:22, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@John from Idegon: I does look like a lovely place. There is a little pond with a beach in the middle of the town, and it's right on the edge of the Allegheny National Forest. I love researching these little towns, though my time it limited these days. On another note, I was going to add a "did you know" to the list at WP:WPSCH (see Talk:St. Johns, Ontario), but realized the article isn't about a school. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 08:49, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Sixty Minute Limit: Thank you for writing. I reverted your edits because you are using circular sourcing. You added the category "mumble rap" to biographical articles, even though "mumble rap" is not mentioned in the article. To support your edit, you state that "mumble rap is another way to SoundCloud rap". According to who? Some Wikipedia article? Have a look at the discussion at Talk:Mumble rap. Merging that article with "SoundCloud rap" was like pulling a tooth. If you intend on adding a category to an article, please be sure the category is mentioned in the article, with a reliable source. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 14:54, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Ricks99: I can see you are making good faith edits to many articles, but I have been reverting them like a lumberjack with a sharp ax. It's very important you take some time to read Help:Referencing for beginners. Otherwise you will be wasting a lot of time. If you need help just ask. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:45, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Would you consider becoming a New Page Reviewer?
Hi Magnolia677,
I've recently been looking for editors to invite to join the new page reviewing team, and after reviewing your editing history, I think you would be a good candidate. Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines; the new page reviewing team needs help from experienced users like yourself.
Would you please consider becoming a New Page Reviewer? Kindly read the tutorial before making your decision. If this looks like something that you can do, please consider joining us. If you choose to apply, you can drop an application over at WP:PERM/NPR. If you have questions, please feel free to drop a message on my talk page or at the reviewer's discussion board.
Every edit you have reverted is sourced in the article itself. No need for the block warnings - there were no violations. READ the articles.LumaNatic (talk) 13:34, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Luke Rockhold
The main bio says record from Sherdog.com. Every fighters record has no extra link diaplayed. I placed both of the references at the bottom. Toeknee44 (talk) 15:30, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Toeknee44: The addition of the template seems to have been reverted by two editors now. It looks like a useful template, unfortunately it was created without a column to add sources. Perhaps it can be fixed. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 15:37, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
If it's a useful template then I don't understand why you're bringing up that it was reverted by two editors. The first editor, CASSIOPEIA, didn't state the sources were the issue. They stated it wasn't constructive although it's the base template that every fighter has. I'm happy to add the sources and if the first editor stated that was their issue I would've immediately done so. Toeknee44 (talk) 16:00, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Daniel Parke
The sourcing for the Category:American slave owners is sourced in the body of the article, particularly under "Governorship:" "A list of grievances was compiled against Parke, including complaints against his personal conduct as well as allegations that he had enriched himself by seizing vessels, concealing wills to buy up supposedly intestate estates, and pressuring others not to contest his bids for lands, slaves, and cattle."LumaNatic (talk) 20:56, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@LumaNatic: The section in the Daniel Parke article you are referring to is essentially unsourced (there is one large source at the end of the article), and only mentions allegations about his bids for slaves. Concluding from this that he was a "slave owner" is sloppy. Please stop edit warring and find a source to support your edit. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:02, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
About the Glendale article
Might I remind you that I did check for sources in the article. Any article of a person that was born, grew up, or lived in Glendale was either listed as such, or, if it wasn't, I cited it with the corresponding sources. Which explains what may seem like a lack of citations.
@Magnolia677: I see, thank you for clarifying. I might reconsider my edit and improve on it further in the following weeks, so that it abides by the WP:CIRC policy you linked to me. Again, thanks for clarifying. GoAnimateFan199Pro (talk) 23:16, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Allice Hunter: I cited WP:USCITIES in my edit summary without realizing I was editing a state, but at WP:USCITIES there was a consensus to use US Census data for demographic information: "The US Census should be the primary source of demographic data. If census estimates or other reliable sources of demographic data are included, the additional data should supplement – not replace – the most recent available data from the decennial census". I haven't looked for a similar consensus regarding US states, but the US Census would probably be a more reliable source. Sometimes stuff just gets done a certain way until someone questions it (two editors now). Regarding that...when I have spare time (which lately is never) I look for Wiki articles that use the phrase "first opened its doors", and I remove the "its doors". There are literally thousands of articles that use this idiom. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 22:19, 25 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Lil Durk
Magnolia, I noticed that you have reverted the edit on Lil Durk’s wiki but he is signed to Alamo & Interscope Records now. He just released a single under them called Spin The Block. Jevon Tompkins (talk) 02:46, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Question
Do you have any notion where I might find guidence on where to point the geocoordinates for a US county? Particularly, Porter County, Indiana. Right now, they point to a location in Lake Michigan that appears to actually be in Illinois. It extends roughly 25 miles south of Lake Michigan, and the county seat is on the west edge of the county about 10 miles from the lake. It's a bit over a minute NS by about 30 seconds EW. Center it? The county seat doesn't seem to be a good choice. John from Idegon (talk) 02:58, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Good lord, get a grip on yourself and calm down with the threats. It has already been officially announced who that 6ix9ine single is with. Oddly, you aren't demanding sources on every other single on there. Get to work on fixing all those! Udar55 (talk) 02:27, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Udar55: Thank you for writing. One of the cornerstones of Wikipedia is that personal experience and original research are not permitted. Except for "the sky is blue" examples, adding information without the support of a source makes Wikipedia less reliable to its readers, and undermines the hard work of other editors. I see you've been cautioned numerous times about this already. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:28, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
RMA
Please email info@riversidemilitary.biz with your contact information. The school would like to know your identity and why you are taking it upon yourself to edit the school's page.You are removing legitimate edits unilaterally without permission. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:64B0:5E40:31B2:D7CB:2258:7DAA (talk) 18:18, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That's funny. I stubbed the article as a totally unsourced puff piece on the school. I started working thru the alumni list and the only one I found that had a reliable source reference to attendance was Pres. Carter's dad. Unfortunately I lost my work on the alumni and don't have time now to go back. I also noticed the vast majority of those I looked at were only marginally notable. I'll look for NCES data next, but is there a chance you'd run the alumni? Also, the descriptions need to be edited substantially on any we keep. Grad dates are not endorsed by guidelines, nor is any CV info. Wikilinks and primary notability only. And no Anon editor, you are not getting any contact info about either me or Magnolia, although I'm curious as to why you want it. John from Idegon (talk) 20:40, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@John from Idegon: That Wiki article looked like a second school webpage. Thanks for the cleanup. I couldn't help peeking at campus on satellite and street view, and the grounds are spectacular, set back from the Chattahoochee River in the middle of cottage country. Sweet. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:39, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Looking for another opinion
There's an article Mikee Plastik, about a musician of sorts...it seems to me that a promoter has been working this artist into wikipedia, but in spite of numerous "references" they've pulled together, I don't think anything here is significant coverage in a reliable source. But, since I've removed this individual from lists of notables about 100 times, I want to make sure it's not just me being annoyed. Could you take a look at this article and see if you feel it should exist? Thanks! Jacona (talk) 10:00, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@JaconaFrere: Thanks for showing me this. I reviewed all the sources cited for Mikee Plastik, and search online for additional sources, but wasn't able to find anything to support notability. I will nominate the article for deletion, along with Pete Jones. This IP editor tried to get the Mikee Plastic listed on various "notable people" lists prior to the article being created. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 10:35, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for editing my work on Brent Barrett's page. It was a mistake to not include a reference. I have reinstated the information and added an appropriate reference. Neverbeengone (talk) 15:30, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Murder of Jimmie Lee Jackson
Hello, you might be right about the Murder of Jimmie Lee Jackson. However, his name is in the lynchings-infobar, and therefore I added the infobar to Mr. Jackson's article. If you think that Jackson was not lynched, then feel free to edit the infobar too. If there is something I don't want, then it is wrong information on Wikipedia. Best regards, Jeff5102 (talk) 18:23, 16 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
hi, I'm new at this. I uploaded a couple of pretty Port Colborne pictures. No thin white borders. I hope these are acceptable.
@Philcomanforterie: Thanks for your contribution. The pictures are great. I'm tweaking the article a bit, and have moved your pictures lower on the page, as they were creating a large white space. Thanks for removing the borders. Somewhere on the Commons it says something about not adding unnecessary borders or watermarks. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 09:31, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Come on man. I cited the work and it's a public document. Nothing is copyright, etc. Give me a break. Do you just need something to do? I am trying to help my community. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabe Rieger (talk • contribs) 20:38, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Gabe Rieger: No need to be an Opuntia, just do like your grade seven teacher taught you...put it in your own words! There are lots of resources available on Wikipedia to help you, like this one. Also, if you are in any way employed by the city of Lake Jackson, Texas you need to declare a conflict of interest. Thank you for writing! Magnolia677 (talk) 20:52, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Magnolia677: I know how copyright claims and IP works. I have been in the industry for decades. I PAID TO HAVE THIS REPORT CREATED. I OWN IT. So put my edits back in. Or I'll escalate the concern. Thanks.
OOOPS, I could say what my Uncle used to say, but alas, it could be construed as being froward speech. However, I do believe the principal of WP:OWN is rather specific. If one were to say, claim they own an article, or actually pay someone to edit said article they are to coin a phrase "shit out of luck". ANYBODY could just come by and edit the hell out of said article. Its kind of how Wikipedia works. DO NOT misunderstand me, I have had some rather negative experiences with this as well. Coal town guy (talk) 19:35, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hey there, I hope you do not mind, but I was able to get to the last standing structure in Pickshin a few years back and replaced the image you had placed. The pic you have is past Pickshin, they made it Pickshin Hollow, JUST past Lillybrook, which I was lucky enough to see before I blew out my suspension...I even got a pic of the sign...The church was that switch back bottom as you pass LillybrookCoal town guy (talk) 01:23, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I do not know when you plan to drive Coal City Road again, but I have a request. When you go to Amigo, you will see a road named Devils Fork. It is very close to Amigo. IF you drive that road, you will be getting near what was called Devils Fork, West Virginia. A coal town that was for african americans. I tried ONCE to hike it, too many yellow jackets. However, if you are there, take a look, I heard its possible there are some remains of the town. Coal town guytalk13:22, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Check out the link in the current article we have. PART of the town an mines were in Wyoming County, PART in Raleigh. Google maps actually can get you to Devils fork Road. I would urge EXTREME caution and have a set of boots that are at least calf high, that is snake central. In addition to the yellow jackets and black fliesCoal town guytalk15:01, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It would be past the Amigo church15:10, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
I work for the village. We got our list from the historic society who has complied it over the years. I would respectfully ask that if you don't have a suggestion on how to source this, that you please put it back up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.206.146.206 (talk) 18:03, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Discography Reference Inquiry
Hello, in regards to the unreferenced section tag you placed on the Discography Section of Bladee, I have a quick question. I can cite the record label's website, however I'm not sure where in particular to place the reference in the section? Seems to be a trending situation with artists who's discography is not vast enough to warrant it's own discography article, (see Shlohmo, Baths, Corbin for examples). Just placing a reference right at the top of the section doesn't appear right, however placing it in-line doesn't make much sense either. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbeandelphiki (talk • contribs) 15:47, 22 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Denimadept: Thanks for writing, and thanks for your additions to Multi-way bridge. My apology, it was my error for deleting the railway bridge. Railway bridges are allowed, but there are almost certainly none of them in the world that meet the criteria for entry on the list. Regarding the three bridges you added, the All-America Bridge was deleted by another editor because it did not meet the criteria for entry. Regarding the railway bridge, you added a "Y Railroad Bridge along the Allegheny River" located in Venango County, Pennsylvania. You did not add coordinates, so I went looking for the bridge you were referring to. If it is either of these: (41°19′54″N79°46′17″W / 41.33153°N 79.77149°W / 41.33153; -79.77149 or 41°25′21″N79°41′52″W / 41.422502°N 79.697708°W / 41.422502; -79.697708), then they also do not meet the criteria for entry on the list. Also, you added a third bridge, the Hama Bridge (Sancha Zijin), located in Heicheng Village, Hebei, China. This is a photo of the bridge. Would you be able to add coordinates? (every entry on the list has coordinates) Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 20:48, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Edits made to saxapahaw recently are based on local history not what is written. Most people there are only 10 year residents as opposed to someone like me who has lived there my entire life. Dixiepridetowing (talk) 23:33, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Dixiepridetowing: This is correct. Text entered into Wikipedia must be supported by a reliable source. This is not in any way to imply that your information is incorrect, it just needs to be supported by a reliable source, else it cannot be added. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:32, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
As of today, all 55 counties of the West Virginia National Register of Historic places have an article for their associated location. I know that sounds odd, but some states have the National Register article but no associated town or community article....WV has NONE....yayyyyCoal town guytalk01:06, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'd appreciate it if you had checked the track listing and references before insinuating that I was adding unsourced information. (new info should not be added to infoboxes which isn't already sourced elsewhere). If you looked at the history of the article, I have contributed very positively and constructively - I'm responsible for the majority of the article. I have no interest in unreferenced material.
If you check the tracklisting - which I meticulously added from Guetta's official website, Albert Harvey is credited on the first half of the album as "Albert Harvey (GLOWINTHEDARK)". This is because Albert is half of the production duo which is GLOWINTHEDARK. However on the Jack Back project - only GLOWINTHEDARK is credited, Harvey isn't listed separately. Therefore it is most accurate to list both Harvey and GLOWINTHEDARK separately as it seems Harvey contributed as part of his production duo and separately on his own. → Lil-℧niquԐ 1- { Talk } -11:56, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) Everything that appears in a Wikipedia article must come from a published source without exception. That is one of the five basic rules that Wikipedia was founded on. Additionally, if someone requests that you provide your source, that is then required. So essentially, you have it backwards. If you did not have a source before you added it, you never should have added it. John from Idegon (talk) 13:21, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, teach me! You're reinventing Wikipedia referencing. So, you're claiming that a producer who appears several times on the article's track listing needs a source so we could add him in the inforbox as one of the album producers? Well, wow. --Helptottt (talk) 18:18, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
If a particular track were to reach a level of notability, then the producer of that track could be discussed in that article. The infobox is for quick information on the subject of the article, which is the album, not its individual tracks. SEO is a thing you know, and not a thing we need to be involved in. And nothing has be substatiallty rewritten. Over the past five years, the community has made a choice to enforce WP:V strictly, both to ensure accuracy, and deter SEO and other forms of PROMO editing. John from Idegon (talk) 18:30, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Adam Nelson 06: Thank you for writing. I don't have the authority to delete your user space, I simply nominated it for speedy deletion. The decision to delete or not delete will be made by an administrator. What's interesting is that in 68,720 edits to Wikipedia, it was the first time I nominated a user page for speedy deletion, so I'm also curious to see the outcome. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 16:37, 29 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker)@Adam Nelson 06: - I didn't nominate the userpage that goes with your account and I cannot delete it either, but unlike Magnolia, I've nominated hundreds of user pages for deletion, and almost all have actually been deleted. Three things: it's not "yours", strictly speaking. It and every other page found at en.wikipedia.org are the property of the Wikimedia Foundation and is to be used to further the goals of the community. See WP:UP for details. We do not publish articles on non notable subjects, and what you have written is essentially an article (albeit unsourced) about yourself. See WP:N. Lastly, this isn't social media. Who you are, who Magnolia is and who I am is of little import here. See WP:NOTFACEBOOK. I'm almost certain your current userpage will be deleted. Going forward, if you want to make a new userpage, focus on what you will be doing on Wikipedia for your contents. Also, please read the words on the entire edit page next time you open one to make an edit. Just as soon as you press the "Publish changes" button, what you have written ceases to be under your control, and can and likely will be edited, re-arranged, re-used and even in some cases removed. That's how Wikipedia works. John from Idegon (talk) 17:12, 29 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Magnolia677. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Ronny J, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: the new article is not substantially identical to the one that was previously deleted. Thank you. SalvioLet's talk about it!00:45, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Need advice on non ref data
Hey there, Here is the advice I am seeking, I am finding ALOT of biased and un sourced statements in WV County articles. That means per wiki manners, I can delete it because in all honesty the crap in some instances has been there for years. Is there a wiki positive way to communicate this and not appear to be the world only living heart donor?Coal town guy (talk)15:38, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Coal town guy: Hey there. I've been watching the interaction at Talk:McDowell County, West Virginia. Much of what you removed was unsourced, or sourced by a church/rehab center. The bit about the drug deaths was well sourced though (CDC). You know how it goes on Wikipedia. One pushes this way, another pushes back. It's all good fun. And I've always found your style very positive. Magnolia677 (talk) 15:56, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. You reverted my revision] to the Croton-on-Hudson, NY article's Recreation section as "removing unsourced content". Couldn't you have tagged the content as "Citation needed"? Then I (or another editor) could add the citation, instead of losing the content entirely. Lost content which included other editing that doesn't require citation, such as "corrected capitalization, grammar, punctuation, formatting" I noted in my edit submission. Also, what kind of citation is necessary for geographical facts such as the location of a landmark at the mouth of a river? DocRuby (talk) 16:03, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@DocRuby: Thanks for writing. Sometimes when an edit has multiple issues, removing it is the best approach. You added something about a beam from the World Trade Center? You also added an external link in the body of the text (see WP:EL). Also, why capitalize "town" in the sentence "outside the village limits in the Town of Cortlandt". Your edit also moved stuff around randomly, but it's still not in alpha order, so I'm not sure why you did it. It just didn't seem like an improvement. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:59, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Magnolia677: The reference to the beam was in the revision that I edited, but misattributed to a different site (item in the list). Several of the listed sites in the version I edited had descriptions apt to a different listed site instead, so I unscrambled them. I also reduced descriptions in the list by moving details to an article where one exists, such as Croton Point Park, but I left a detail in the list, as exposition of the site, if the site had no article of its own. I reordered the list in order of the site's prominence in the village, which also generally corresponded to how detailed was the listed item including whether it has its own article. The "Town of Cortlandt" is the proper name of the municipality that contains the Village of Croton-on-Hudson, according to the standard NY state municipality hierarchy; the common noun "town" is colloquially interchangeable with "village" but is incorrect in this instance. I also corrected a site's name and linked it to its homepage as was another undescribed and similar listed site. I summarized all those kinds of revisions in my Edit summary. Your unfamiliarity with the context does not make the reorganization "random", and simply reverting threw out the baby with the bathwater.
@DocRuby: The "beam" reference was unsourced, however my bigger concern is your reordering of the list "in order of the site's prominence in the village". Your arbitrary reordering left Mayo's Landing last on the list? Last! It was once owned by Margaret Mayo...the Margaret Mayo. Anyway, perhaps you can find some sources for the list, so it will be all good. Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 20:47, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Magnolia677: I listed the sites in order of their prominence in the village, in combination with their documentation available on Wikipedia or on the Web, which is a natural ordering for a Wikipedia reader's consumption. Mayo's Landing's history does not make it more prominent in the village, but you are of course free to note its provenance and link it to the Margaret Mayo article. The beam reference, as I mentioned, was retained from the version that I revised. I'd be happy to find a source if I can, but that doesn't have anything to do with my edit. You are quibbling with an ordering of a list of sites that of course has no other documentation as to its "prominence", while disregarding all the other substantial revisions that you discarded with a casual reversion. Your quibbles come down to requiring citations for relatively obscure local sites that might not have them, and a negligible quibble about their ordering. The proper editorial action is to tag missing citations where necessary. That will make it "all good". I will revise the article accordingly. DocRuby (talk) 21:05, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
UTS Article
Hi Magnolia,
Please kindly describe why some schools are prestigious without it being considered "puffering," whereas this school in question
(UTS) cannot be. I believe I did link sources that were appropriate and in good-faith. For example, UCC is described in the same vein as UTS as "prestigious" in its article, and the sources supporting it are of similar caliber to my edits. Please enlighten me as I am a new user and am quite confused, as you can probably tell :)
@TheBonfireOfTheVanities: Thank you for writing. Words like "prestigious" are generally avoided in Wikipedia articles because they are unencyclopedic. The school's academic achievements and list of notable alumni speaks for itself. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:57, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker)To add to Magnolia's reply, there are pushing on 6 million articles on Wikipedia, all written and maintained by volunteers. Quality has not always been job one here, and we are left with many unfortunate artifacts of that era. Problems get fixed when they get noticed. Every change to an article is noted on a list called "Recent changes", and individual editors maintain shorter lists of articles that interest them that also show changes. Therefore, newly introduced problems usually get noticed and fixed, whereas old problems might linger on until someone decides to take the time to clean up the article. If you want to link to the articles you are referring to, perhaps myself or Magnolia could take the time to look at them. John from Idegon (talk) 23:12, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Wisconsin "unsourced" edits
Hi, I am not sure if you are notified about responses to comments you left on my talk page (I am new to editing) so I am leaving a comment here. I would ask that you please stop removing all the references to the Treaty of the Cedars on the pages of Wisconsin towns that are part of the territory ceded in this treaty. As I commented on my page:
"Hi, Magnolia677, thanks for your feedback. Waukechon and Clintonville are not mentioned by name in those sources because they didn't have those names then; those names were only given after white settlement. They were able to become the towns they are known as today because they were included in the 1836 Treaty of the Cedars. You can see the full text of the treaty here where the geographical bounds of the treaty are described in more detail: https://menominee-nsn.gov/CulturePages/Treaty1836.aspx
On the Waukechon page there is no History section so I can understand why you might not think the treaty history of the general area is relevant because there is no other history given at all. However, the Clintonville page has a History section which mentions the first white family to live there without explaining how they were able to obtain that land in the first place. The Treaty of the Cedars did not cover all of Wisconsin, so it is not "a general history of Wisconsin", but a local history that directly impacted on every single town where white settlement increased after 1836."
I notice that you have been undoing many of my references to the Treaty of the Cedars, for example on the article for Zoar, Wisconsin, since posting your comment on my page. Can we please resolve this through discussion before you go through and undo all of the changes I have made to these articles. I could add the citation of the treaty itself so that the geographical bounds of the treaty are made clear; I have just done this to the Clintonville page, for example.
@Eldr-fire: Thank you for writing. I removed some of your edits because the text you added was not supported by the source you cited. Let me figure this out. You used this source to identify the area affected by the 1836 Treaty of the Cedars. Then you used this source to locate all the settlements within the affected area, that had previously been a Menominee settlement. Then, to each of the English-named settlements on Wikipedia, such as Zoar, Wisconsin, you added "it was ceded to the United States as part of the Treaty of the Cedars in 1836". Is this correct? Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 13:40, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Magnolia677: Hi, thanks for your reply. Yes, the Menominee nation webpage goes through the territory included in the treaty, and the Menominee place-names page identifies places that have a Menominee name. Not all of those are in the treaty, but I have been using that as my starting point and then researching whether each individual place is covered within the treaty territory. And in the case when they were, yes, I have added a line about the Treaty of the Cedars as well as the Menominee name of the place. In some places it was actually the Potawatomi who ceded the territory in 1833, so in those cases I have described that process instead or in addition to the Menominee treaty process, since they were related and the Menominee ceded over four million acres in Wisconsin so there was some overlap with other tribes. Eldr-fire (talk) 06:37, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, you have recently flagged my attempt to undo your edits as a violation of Wikipedia policy. Please refer to this earlier conversation of ours where we resolved this issue, and please allow me to undo your edits where relevant. --Eldr-fire (talk) 22:01, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Magnolia677, thanks for your reply. Could you please clarify which part of which edit you would like an additional source for? I may have missed a citation but in general I have been sourcing these edits. --Eldr-fire (talk) 22:15, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Eldr-fire: At Shawano, Wisconsin you wrote "The area which would become Shawano was ceded to the United States by the Menominee in the 1836 Treaty of the Cedars". To support this you used this source. However, that source does not mention Shawano. That's what being "unsourced" means. You then added "This treaty opened up the area to white settlement." What was the source for that edit? Also, please take a moment to read WP:SYN. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:42, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Magnolia677: I don't know how many times I can explain this. The Treaty of the Cedars sold 4 million acres of land to the United States. Shawano was not mentioned by name because 1) they did not enumerate every settlement contained within that territory, as that would have been impractical and 2) the English names of settlements whose foundations by white settlers were enabled by the Treaty of the Cedars did not yet exist. The opening up of white settlement is a basic function of almost every Native American treaty with the United States. The Wikipedia articles about Wisconsin towns have a serious problem with WP:Systemic Bias which I am seeking to address by highlighting the crucial role of the Treaty of the Cedars in the foundation of many Wisconsin towns. --Eldr-fire (talk) 09:14, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Eldr-fire: Then it would probably be best not to mention the Treaty of the Cedars on such tiny articles, per WP:UNDUE. The same would be true if an editor when to the article Hood, Virginia and added a statement about how its overseeing government was impacted by the American Revolutionary War. The statement is true, but it's hardly notable in an encyclopedic article about Hood. Magnolia677 (talk) 13:23, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Magnolia677: In cases where there is no other history provided of the town on its Wikipedia page, it may indeed be unnecessary to mention the Treaty of the Cedars, though many of these articles are stubs in need of expansion anyway, in which case providing the context of their sale to the United States could be argued a positive change in the article. However, many Wikipedia pages about Wisconsin towns describe the first white American settlers, usually in mid-late 1830s directly following the sale of the land. Others list tribes who previously lived in the area but skip over how that land was transferred to the United States before describing later developments. In these cases it is definitely relevant to contextualize the settlement of that land by white Americans with reference to the treaty which sold that land to the United States. The scale of Indian removal does not mean it should be left out of the narrative. --Eldr-fire (talk) 13:56, 2 March 2019 (UTC)--Eldr-fire (talk) 13:50, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know why Wikipedia makes it so hard to insert a link; it seems to run the URL and the "words to display" together into one character string. In any case, the part before "Riverwalk Extension Project" is the URL from the official Town of Hillsborough NC website. Click on the link - copy and paste it, if you have to - then click on the drop-down menu "Project components", and the last two items will reference the Riverwalk extension to Occoneechee Mountain.
If it's this hard to let you know something which the Town has communicated to its residents on a routine basis, I probably won't make the effort to update my post when the extension is actually completed. A shame, really. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barry M. Lamont (talk • contribs) 19:46, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
How about instead of removing my edits that deserve to be there and then writing on my talk page you find the proper source for me? Wouldn't that be a better use of time and help the article be more relevant? How are you gonna threaten my editing privileges because of an edit dispute when the edit dispute is with you? Doesn't seem very fair. Blsupr (talk) 20:54, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker)Blsupr, I'd be real interested in hearing your explanation of why your unsourced edit "deserves" to be in the article, when you've stated here you didn't have a source for it. One of the pillar policies of Wikipeda is that all content must come from reliable published sources. So, just how is it that your content "deserves" to be in the encyclopedia? John from Idegon (talk) 21:15, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Blsupr John from Idegon is quite correct. How are we serving the readers of Wikipedia if we don't support what we include with a reliable source? I'm not saying your edit was not true, it just needs to be supported by a reliable source. Thank goodness so few editors of rap music articles add unsourced content! And I'd help you out with the source but I'm spatchcocking a turkey. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:53, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It deserves to be there because uh.. they are associated acts. They've worked together numerous times, they made public appearances together numerous times, they are part of the same record label, they have a group project together. Very easy to simply add the source for me but you'd rather be a jerk about it. Not to mention the sole associated act on the Lil Yachty page isn't even the correct name and even the Wikipedia article for that artist shows the actual name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blsupr (talk • contribs) 23:22, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Blsupr, both Magnolia and I have told you what it takes to improve a Wikipedia article. You add content paraphrased from reliable sources. Adding what you "know" is not an improvement. If you don't wrap your head around that concept, you won't last long here. This isn't a blog, a fan page or social media. John from Idegon (talk) 23:52, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
My nickname for Woodbury was reverted. The nickname that was edited is correct. This is not vandalism. The community started calling this area Woodbaby with the influx of 30 year olds that were all having babies. Why was this reverted? How do I avoid this from happening again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Szumowwiki (talk • contribs) 01:18, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Szumowwiki: I reverted your edit because it was unsourced and seemed like something a vandal on Wikipedia would add. I have been unable to locate any online source to support your edit. Magnolia677 (talk) 09:25, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Magnolia677: I am not a vandal. Just trying to add a locals phrase. This is common to the area. When you search Woodbaby, MN all you get is Woodbury. Please add back.
@Magnolia677: The nickname isn't C-Heights. It's K-Heights. Please change these back. Why are you correcting for an area where you don't know the nicknames? Nicknames don't always have sources, that's what makes them nicknames. People go by the name Hank when they're named Henry. Doesn't mean their license says Hank.
@Stepho-wrs: I re-added my original citation, and changed the date format from "June 30, 2018" to "30 June 2018", as you suggested in your edit summary "consistent date format in references." However, I changed the order of the components within the citation to comply with the typical order found in Wikipedia articles, and the order listed at Template:Cite magazine. Adding an access date is not required, however, you may add one if you wish. Thanks for writing. Magnolia677 (talk) 12:03, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I did not add any reliable sources because in the Top-Ten singles section of that page there are no sources provided, except for re-entry notes or special cases.
Although, with all the entry dates and peak dates provided for each song, it is easy to verify the information.
I can add sources to my edits, but it will not be in line with what the page is, making it a less clear experience for the users.
Would you like me to add reliable sources to my edits anyway?
Reply: Magnolia677, the semi protection for List of UK top 10 singles in 2018 has ended now. Is it OK if I edit this page now without giving any sources? You have to understand that none of the UK top 10 singles pages need sources, as the info given is correct and accurate. - 1996Larry
Reply: No, StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me, I'm not familiar with adding sources. - 1996Larry
@1996Larry and Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars: 1996Larry, I am but one of several editors who have cautioned you about adding sources and have provided resources to help you. On October 28 I left this message on your talk page where I wrote "please see Help:Referencing for beginners, which will get you started at sourcing your edits". You have stated a few times that you either do not need to add sources, or do not know how. This is unfortunate, as reliable sources are a cornerstone of Wikipedia content, and to continue adding unsourced content after being cautioned not to will be viewed as disruptive editing. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:04, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hiya. I've only tried to update the singles themselves on the page and with no reason would I want to jeopardise it. as for the unsourced material I'm not so sure, I'm still learning the ropes and only want to help. I hope I haven't overstepped. I'm terribly sorry if I have. --RJSK13 (talk) 20:23, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Photo request petition - please sign
Hi! Can you please sign the petition to TASS and RIAN requesting them to release certain historic photos (many of them from WWII, others of cosmonauts, women aviators, and historic events) for Wikimedia by adding your signature to the signature section? Many of the images would be very useful to the WiR project. Also, please do spread the word to other Wikipedians. Thanks, --PlanespotterA320 (talk) 03:10, 10 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Revere, MA Page Edit
Hi Magnolia, A few months ago I made an edit to the Revere, Massachusetts page, but it was unsourced and so you took it down. I just wanted to thank you for doing so and apologize for the trouble. I've been reading about the process of editing on Wikipedia and am going to try to add the information again, now with a source! So please check it out if you find the time. Thank you! Shannend29 (talk) 01:32, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I added sources whenever I changed why would you say that i didn’t?
both of my sources were from reliable articles. Why would you say that i didn’t add sources? Davatki (talk) 18:48, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Music (and to a lesser extent, books) genre is a contentious topic on Wikipedia. You should always start a discussion on the article's talk page and gain consensus prior to changing genres. John from Idegon (talk) 19:43, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ojibwe Names for Communities
Please see the profiles for Sandstone, Minnesota and Hinckley, Minnesota. These, among other cities on Wikipedia that have communities subject to the Mille Lacs Band of Ojibwe statutes, are given Objibwe names for the communities as well. I referenced this by posting the part of the statute that defines the cities and their Ojibwe names. Perhaps you should read a bit farther through the referenced source to see that it indeed references what was posted. --John2690-john2690 (talk) 19:31, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
What you mentioned, 'Ne-shi-gwa-go-gog', is the pronunciation of Ne-zhingwaakokaag. Local Ojibwe people can confirm this, and they use it in their official documents, including their statutes. Why do you insist on removing this translation from the Pine City, Minnesota page when several other Minnesota city pages have the same translation, whereby there are Ojibwe communities? --John2690-john2690 (talk) 22:52, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Magnolia677: I appreciate your contributions and for your consideration of this term as an alternative to "Pine City"; please keep in mind, I provided a suitable referenced source, the Mille Lacs Band statutes, which on pg. 8 shows the phonetic version of "Ne-zhingwaakokaag", "Ne-shi-gwa-go-gog". Lest we forget this is an English document, not written in native Ojibwe language.
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Friendly question about the Mau5trap discog section.
May I ask why you keep deleting all my edits beyond Getter's "Visceral". That came out two months ago, and I haven't updated yet because I'm afraid you'll delete my edits. Just a friendly question. Electric Fidelity (talk) 02:25, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again, Magnolia677. This is 1996Larry here. I have just been unblocked from editiing Wikipedia, and as from now, I intend to include sources in my future edits. I am very sorry for challanging you about editing the page "List of UK top-ten singles in 2018", and I now fully understand that pages like this always need sources to support their edits. I was wondering if you could try and edit the page yourself and include the most reliable of sources possible.
11th December 2018: Magnolia677, I have a feeling that the issue of a lack of sources on the page List of UK top-ten singles in 2018 cannot be fully addressed. However, this page should not in any way be deleted, as it does cite some web sources, mainly from the Official Charts Company's website. You have to persuede some user to have this page updated by 1st January 2019. - 1996Larry
18th December: Magnolia677, I would like to echo what 1996Larry said. The page was restricted from being updated by a month thanks to you. The main sources are from the Official Charts Company's website. I have added some sources.
Hiya, I was thinking for the 2019 page, we could add a source next to each week- to ensure accuracy? Just a suggestion RJSK13 —Preceding undated comment added 22:32, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Magnolia677,
Early in A Child's Christmas in Wales the young Dylan and his friend Jim Prothero witness smoke pouring from Jim's home. After the conflagration has been extinguished Dylan writes that
Nobody could have had a noisier Christmas Eve. And when the firemen turned off the hose and were standing in the wet, smoky room, Jim's Aunt, Miss. Prothero, came downstairs and peered in at them. Jim and I waited, very quietly, to hear what she would say to them. She said the right thing, always. She looked at the three tall firemen in their shining helmets, standing among the smoke and cinders and dissolving snowballs, and she said, "Would you like anything to read?"
My thanks to you for your efforts to keep the 'pedia readable in case the firemen chose one of our articles :-) Best wishes to you and yours and happy editing in 2019. MarnetteD|Talk02:15, 19 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Could you please tell me what is wrong with the edits on the page I created Astroworld: Wish You Were Here Tour. I believe I have cited everything correctly. I just need the Billboard Boxscore. I could be wrong, so please check. If I'm not please don't leave comments about my "incorrect" citations. Thanks albany6 —Preceding undated comment added 21:46, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No, you didn't. You added [[File:Border Patrol in Montana.jpg|thumb|right|Border Patrol vehicle in Montana]] 5 years ago. The IP added [[File:Border Patrol at Canadian border in Beebe Plain, Vermont.jpg|thumb|right| Border vehicles at the US-Canada border]], which is a worse photo of a border patrol vehicle when the article has one already (added by you 5 years ago). Please take a closer look at the diffs and reconsider. Pinkbeast (talk) 12:25, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It seems that basically none of the coordinates for Canadian cities are correct. At some point, somebody went through with a bot and rounded all the coordinates, and somehow even those aren't aligned with anything close to the center. I don't care much about the nature of the center (Yonge and Bloor va geographic center) but I do want the coordinates to be specified down to the arc second (dms), Where does one look up the GNBC data? Abductive (reasoning)22:05, 9 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The piece i wrote on the X page talking about his feud with Midnight Society follows the "WP:NOTGOSSIP" guidelines, and if it does not, feel free to tell me why, as the rest of the feuds mentioned on the page are all written in the same format. Also, if Genius is not a good enough source, feel free to show me any reliable streaming platform that has X's older songs for proper citation. I only wish to inform people on parts of X's life that are not covered by mainstream media, making it extremely hard to find reliable sources other than fans who have written about the topic. Please take the lyrics as a proper citation into consideration. Thank you. Cameronsmiley2345qwerty (talk) 23:56, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
