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User talk:Lou2uWelcome
Brendan BurkePlease keep the article on Brendan Burke. I don't live in Canada. I do know who Brendan Burke is however. He is notable as a gay rights activist who used his RELATIONSHIP with his father (undoubtedly a more famous person) to bring attention to the causes that he believed in. I submit that hockey fans (even those of us living outside of Canada) and people that have been following gay rights activism DO know who he is and consider him to be relevant. I am NOT a family member of Brendan Burke, nor have I ever met him, yet I recognize his contributions. -lou2u talk) 10:39, 8 February 2010 (UTC) Re: SarcasmSorry about my previous comment which I have deleted. I originally took it as a bit of an attack but after re-reading it, I now realize it was more of a friendly warning. Thanks! Patken4 (talk) 22:58, 11 February 2010 (UTC) Hey louHey Lou, sorry I didn't respond. I didn't see that you had posted (too many new notifications, haha). Wow, I didn't see any of the articles referring to this debate. You think everyone talking about them would have been a tip off, eh? Anywho, no problem about the article fixing process. It's pretty easy once you get the hang of it and observe some other articles and good articles. Let me know if you ever have any questions I'm certainly not an expert, but I'm happy to help!Luminum (talk) 06:17, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
I deleted this section because I was snarky and over-sensitive (and maybe even self important)Story picked up...Check the Google News link again. Looks like Advocate.com has picked it up. I'd call that an RS. Still might be wrong, of course, but it's still the biggest GLBT news magazine, isn't it? Jclemens (talk) 00:17, 17 February 2010 (UTC) I think so. At least it's the oldest that I know of. I would feel a lot better if LOGO would check it out though. They have CBS News sources that verify everything. Still, The Advocate is a step in the right direction. LOL. I was so anxious to update the article because I was convinced of the truth, but now I want to double check. Oy, now I don't want to let down the Wiki community by jumping the gun. Do you think we should wait until a mainstream news agency picks it up (because I kind of do now)? Argh, I am 98% certain they are they are obviously the same person. I did notice the Arthur Goldberg on the NARTH page uses JD (instead of Esq., Att., or Atty. which would be illegal if he has been disbarred). Then again if they really were different people, there is the possibility the one that works for NARTH never passed the Bar. OK, I really DO feel better about triple checking all this. I think that I can now say with 100% certainty that the two Arthur Goldbergs MUST be the same person. I concluded this strangely enough, using the guy's own press release, I am now confident that they are the same individual. The law source that I found says the ex-con was disbarred in New Jersey. The NARTH Arthur Goldberg has this on his Newsletter citation, "University of Connecticut and past deputy attorney general of New Jersey." The JD now makes sense on the NARTH page. If he used any other credentials, he could be prosecuted for fraud (again). Also, he tried to use his letters of recommend regarding his being an advocate for former Eastern block Jews to mitigate his disbarment before the New Jersey Supreme court. In his newsletter, the NARTH Arthur Goldberg says he was "an advocate for Soviet Jewish émigrés in the 70s and 80s". I won't make any changes until I hear back from you, but this does seem conclusive. I trust your judgment on this more than my own (I hate how I was totally over the top emotional earlier -I swear, until I reread what I wrote, I thought I was being objective).
I agree. LOL, the Wikipedia story on him is being discussed in the blogs (or at least "Ann Jonah"'s changes). Apparently, the new middle name means the same thing as Abba. They both mean "father" They are speculating that he, or someone close to him, made the changes to throw people off the scent. How the heck do people know everything as soon as it happens? Well, tomorrow is soon enough for me. Lou2u (talk) 05:18, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Oh I hope not. I come across as pretty self involved at the beginning of all this. I guess I forgot that this isn't like email. That would explain why the blogs know what has happened here. At least they can see that everyone is shooting for accuracy on this issue. Lou2u (talk) 06:13, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
I see that the Miami Herald comes up now, but the link is actually to a blog there by Miami Herald staff writer Steve Rothaus. He is basically reprinting the story from the South Florida Gay News. He must be fairly certain of the veracity of the story. I also see that the article "Arthur A. Goldberg" was restored on Wikipedia (I assumed it was always a redirect. Admittedly, I never looked into that articles history for changes). Blah, I was reading the court literature of the Arthur Abba Goldberg cases. He is an absolutely detestable human being. That much I am certain of. He has a history of lying, stealing, and then lying again to cover his actions. He showed a real disregard for any who he was hurting.
They are the same age. They both have law degrees. They both helped former Soviet Jews relocate to New Jersey in the 1970s. They both live in the same state. That would be one HECK of a coincidence if they were indeed different people. Someone has to be able to get a positive verification on this eventually. Re: CongratsCheers, mate! Patken4 (talk) 23:04, 19 February 2010 (UTC) HiFrom this page's history it doesn't seem like anyone welcomed you so i was bold and added the template on top. I'm happy to offer assistance if you'd like as well to clean-up your talkpage (pull items from your userpage and add archive) or just answer any questions. -- Banjeboi 21:22, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
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