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Hello there! I again tried to add essential information to Napoleon’s infobox that has been removed and I was again reverted. You mentioned opening an Rfc to discuss the infobox overall. I have never personally opened an Rfc and would prefer another more experienced editor in opening Rfc’s to do so. I don’t know your experience with opening Rfc’s but if you’ve done so before I’d like to ask if you’d be willing to open one. Kind regards, Robertus Pius (Talk • Contribs)21:39, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240905213900","author":"Robertus Pius","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Robertus_Pius-20240905213900-Napoleon_infobox","replies":[]}}-->
@Keivan.f Considering the fact that you are working on Catherine's article alongside me, it is only fair that I write to you regarding some recent developments. I suggest you take a look at the revisions made to Catherine's article as well as to the one concerning her titles and honours since yesterday. Hence, looking forward to knowing your opinion on the "Arms" section. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 09:36, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240914093600","author":"MSincccc","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MSincccc-20240914093600-Arms","replies":["c-Keivan.f-20240917040400-MSincccc-20240914093600","c-MSincccc-20240915071600-MSincccc-20240914093600"]}}-->
The user who attempted to remove the information has been reverted so there's not much left to look into. Keivan.fTalk04:04, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240917040400","author":"Keivan.f","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Keivan.f-20240917040400-MSincccc-20240914093600","replies":[]}}-->
Will Catherine's FAC come about in 2025 or is there still any possibility of it happening this year? Unfortunately, we could not make it happen this summer. Looking forward to your response. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 07:16, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240915071600","author":"MSincccc","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MSincccc-20240915071600-MSincccc-20240914093600","replies":["c-Keivan.f-20240917040400-MSincccc-20240915071600"]}}-->
I cannot think of an exact time frame since I'm buried underneath exams and school work. I'll make some changes and additions once I find some time. Keivan.fTalk04:04, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240917040400","author":"Keivan.f","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Keivan.f-20240917040400-MSincccc-20240915071600","replies":[]}}-->
@Keivan.f The lead for Catherine's article can be definitely improved and it's significant that we expand it and try to summarise it in the best possible manner. Looking forward to your response. It would be greatly appreciated to know your opinion. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 09:40, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240916094000","author":"MSincccc","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MSincccc-20240916094000-Lead","replies":["c-Keivan.f-20240917040900-MSincccc-20240916094000"]}}-->
If this is concerning the recent comment on the article's talk page I must say that I side with the user who opposed the inclusion of any info about the photoshop fiasco. The whole thing was a storm in a tea cup. A sentence can be added on her health issues which I attempted to do in the past but it was reverted so I'm not gonna bother right now. You can work on the lede first on your sandbox and then ask for opinions on the talk page (or from peers) and then hopefully implement some changes. Keivan.fTalk04:09, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240917040900","author":"Keivan.f","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Keivan.f-20240917040900-MSincccc-20240916094000","replies":["c-MSincccc-20240925030600-Keivan.f-20240917040900","c-MSincccc-20240925031200-Keivan.f-20240917040900"]}}-->
@Keivan.f Will it be too early to include this information in Catherine's article? Looking forward to your response. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 03:06, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240925030600","author":"MSincccc","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-MSincccc-20240925030600-Keivan.f-20240917040900","replies":[]}}-->
@Keivan.f Furthermore, both The Daily Telegraph and The Times have reported having noticed the Princess of Wales' recent Early Years meeting with the former also having mentioned this recent meeting (Catherine's second) regarding this year's Carols concert. However, why cannot I find her name in the Court Circular that you will find on the web? Looking forward to your response. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 03:12, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240925031200","author":"MSincccc","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-MSincccc-20240925031200-Keivan.f-20240917040900","replies":["c-Keivan.f-20240925031300-MSincccc-20240925031200"]}}-->
The relevant info is covered under "Community causes" but if what you're alluding to is updating references I would wait until the event has taken place. Keivan.fTalk03:13, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240925031300","author":"Keivan.f","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Keivan.f-20240925031300-MSincccc-20240925031200","replies":["c-MSincccc-20240925033700-Keivan.f-20240925031300"]}}-->
@Keivan.f Why cannot I find the two entries regarding Catherine at the Court Circular website even though the Telegraph could access both and the Times the one before (not this recent one)? Do you also face a similar issue? Regards. MSincccc (talk) 03:37, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240925033700","author":"MSincccc","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-MSincccc-20240925033700-Keivan.f-20240925031300","replies":["c-Keivan.f-20240925052800-MSincccc-20240925033700"]}}-->
Sometimes the Court Circular is updated a day after an engagement has taken place. At the moment I can see the entry for her engagement on September 17. Here you have to select the name of the specific member on whom you want to find entries. Keivan.fTalk05:28, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240925052800","author":"Keivan.f","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Keivan.f-20240925052800-MSincccc-20240925033700","replies":["c-MSincccc-20240925071100-Keivan.f-20240925052800"]}}-->
@Keivan.f How could The Daily Telegraph access the entry in the Court Circular if it is yet to be updated with the engagement undertaken by her on 24 September, that is, yesterday. Did you read the article (link above)? They accessed the entry pertaining to yesterday's engagement-“The Princess of Wales, Joint Patron, the Royal Foundation of The Prince and Princess of Wales, this morning held a meeting at Windsor Castle.”. Looking forward to your response. Regards MSincccc (talk) 07:11, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240925071100","author":"MSincccc","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-MSincccc-20240925071100-Keivan.f-20240925052800","replies":["c-Keivan.f-20240925125500-MSincccc-20240925071100"]}}-->
The Court Circular is published in select British newspapers and on the Royal Family's website. The information goes from the offices directly to the newspapers. Keivan.fTalk12:55, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240925125500","author":"Keivan.f","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Keivan.f-20240925125500-MSincccc-20240925071100","replies":["c-MSincccc-20240926095200-Keivan.f-20240925125500"]}}-->
@Keivan.f Your recent comment has been replied to on the talk page Talk:Catherine, Princess of Wales. Looking forward to knowing your response. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 09:52, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240926095200","author":"MSincccc","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-MSincccc-20240926095200-Keivan.f-20240925125500","replies":["c-MSincccc-20240929161500-MSincccc-20240926095200"]}}-->
A response to you-Consensus ≠ "all". Wikipedia policy makes this clear. And journalists need not be in someone's head to assess a situation as a whole, given obvious pressures and the basics of public relations. Looking forward to your response to the above at the appropriate talk page. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 16:15, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240929161500","author":"MSincccc","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-MSincccc-20240929161500-MSincccc-20240926095200","replies":[]}}-->
There's nothing to reply to at this moment unless the other side stops rehashing the same things and actually comes up with some new arguments. Keivan.fTalk19:36, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240929193600","author":"Keivan.f","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Keivan.f-20240929193600-Lead","replies":["c-MSincccc-20241003104700-Keivan.f-20240929193600"]}}-->
Can the above information be added to Catherine's article? Will it be considered encyclopaedic or notable? ...her first appearance since announcing the completion of her cancer treatment...
@Keivan.f Looking forward to your response. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 10:47, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241003104700","author":"MSincccc","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MSincccc-20241003104700-Keivan.f-20240929193600","replies":["c-Keivan.f-20241003140700-MSincccc-20241003104700"]}}-->
We don't want to create a diary of engagements. She said she finished her treatment and would gradually return to making more appearances and that is already covered in the appropriate section. The readers can easily conclude that's what she's doing without us spoon feeding them and listing every single appearance. Keivan.fTalk14:07, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241003140700","author":"Keivan.f","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Keivan.f-20241003140700-MSincccc-20241003104700","replies":["c-MSincccc-20241003155700-Keivan.f-20241003140700"]}}-->
@Keivan.f In case another editor adds this info (and upon being reverted, starts a discussion on the talk page), how would you respond?
You:As said above
BUT THEN,
Others might argue that the appearance is notable and the current wording goes like:
She continued to make occasional appearances over the following months amidst her ongoing cancer treatment.
But her chemotherapy treatment has concluded, as her video message goes. Looking forward to your response to the above. MSincccc (talk) 15:57, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241003155700","author":"MSincccc","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-MSincccc-20241003155700-Keivan.f-20241003140700","replies":["c-Keivan.f-20241003171200-MSincccc-20241003155700"]}}-->
I'll respond to potential questions and discussions about this matter AFTER somebody makes an attempt to insert this info into the page. We don't need to sit around and hypothesize about potential future edits.
Many patients finish their cancer treatment and go back to their lives. We don't need to list every single appearance of hers to make a point. It's trivial and unencyclopedic and something you would fine on a fan page not an article. Keivan.fTalk17:12, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241003171200","author":"Keivan.f","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Keivan.f-20241003171200-MSincccc-20241003155700","replies":["c-MSincccc-20241010180100-Keivan.f-20241003171200"]}}-->
@Keivan.f Well can this information be used in the article? (I suppose) It is noteworthy. Looking forward to your response soon. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 18:01, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241010180100","author":"MSincccc","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-MSincccc-20241010180100-Keivan.f-20241003171200","replies":["c-Keivan.f-20241010202900-MSincccc-20241010180100"]}}-->
Yeah, given that it was her first in person public engagement after finishing her treatment then I suppose it's noteworthy and can be briefly mentioned. Keivan.fTalk20:29, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241010202900","author":"Keivan.f","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Keivan.f-20241010202900-MSincccc-20241010180100","replies":["c-MSincccc-20241011022300-Keivan.f-20241010202900"]}}-->
@Keivan.f Well, since Internet Archive has been hacked and its services(like the Wayback Machine) cease to work at present, could you please suggest any alternative websites to create an archive link? Looking forward to your response. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 02:23, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241011022300","author":"MSincccc","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-MSincccc-20241011022300-Keivan.f-20241010202900","replies":["c-Keivan.f-20241011035700-MSincccc-20241011022300"]}}-->
See WP:WEBARCHIVES for a list of archive services. Keivan.fTalk03:57, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241011035700","author":"Keivan.f","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Keivan.f-20241011035700-MSincccc-20241011022300","replies":["c-MSincccc-20241011040700-Keivan.f-20241011035700"]}}-->
@Keivan.f Thanks for the above response. By the way, are you able to you use the Wayback Machine at present? Looking forward to knowing your response. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 04:07, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241011040700","author":"MSincccc","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-MSincccc-20241011040700-Keivan.f-20241011035700","replies":["c-Keivan.f-20241011062800-MSincccc-20241011040700"]}}-->
No the website appears to be down. Keivan.fTalk06:28, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241011062800","author":"Keivan.f","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Keivan.f-20241011062800-MSincccc-20241011040700","replies":[]}}-->
@Keivan.f Are you aware of James Middleton's upcoming memoir?
Can it be used as a high quality source in any manner? Looking forward to your opinion on it and whether you would be going for it. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 18:38, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240920183800","author":"MSincccc","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MSincccc-20240920183800-New_book","replies":["c-MSincccc-20240920194300-MSincccc-20240920183800"]}}-->
@Keivan.f Could you please let me know of your opinion at least once and how I should proceed about? Looking forward to your response. Thereafter, I assure you that I would not "flood" your talk page with unnecessary requests. Regards. MSincccc (talk) 19:43, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240920194300","author":"MSincccc","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MSincccc-20240920194300-MSincccc-20240920183800","replies":["c-Keivan.f-20240921060300-MSincccc-20240920194300"]}}-->
I am aware that his memoir is being published. It's more about James rather than Catherine and since it's closely associated with the subject it could almost count as a WP:PRIMARY. Nevertheless, nothing encyclopedic caught my eye when I read the excerpts. Keivan.fTalk06:03, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240921060300","author":"Keivan.f","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Keivan.f-20240921060300-MSincccc-20240920194300","replies":[]}}-->
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