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User talk:Kalariwarrior/Archives/2021/February
Edit with referencesHi noted your recent edits to the page kalaripayattu. Add your edits with valid references KZbot (talk) 00:44, 4 January 2020 (UTC) kalaripayattuHi, It is sad that you are removing my edits to kalaripayattu so blatantly. Kalaripayattu has a philosophy ,Soul of kalaripayattu - for becoming a Yogi, it must be emphasised in the first paragraph itself. I would like to ask you to add those things in the page Thank you Othayoth Shankaran — Preceding unsigned comment added by Othayoth shankaran (talk • contribs) 14:51, 12 March 2020 (UTC) I am not fully removing any of your edits. If you read through the edit history, I have taken many of your points and inserted them in more appropriate places in the article. I’m thinking of adding a Religious Significance section in the article when I have some time, and in that section, I will include all the information you have posted. The article is set up in a relatively organized way, and I do not want to break that by putting random points in random places. Do not worry though, I will add the information you posted later on, it will not be removed completely :) Also, if you can provide some sources for your information, I can add that in as well to make it even more effective :) Kalariwarrior (talk) 15:05, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
Please add those things - Poothara ,Ganapathy Thara , Guruthara ,Gulikkan,Ashtadikpalakas,Siva,Siva bootha ganas,Bhairava,Kalari bhagavathy,Khaloorika bhagavathy etc..in a seperate section. The word meaing kalari is given as 'battle field in wikipedia,it iswrong - real meaning is that it is formed with first three letters of sree vidya mantra , also same like the word Kaloorika . That's why tulunadan kalari's were called as Khaloorika kalaris. These are the kalari sangalpas, must be added in kalaripayattu wiki as many those who are seeking information on kalari first relays on wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Othayoth shankaran (talk • contribs) 10:26, 13 March 2020 (UTC) I’ll be happy to add all that :) I think a great idea would be for you to type out what you know about these topics, and send them to me here. I’ll reformat it and add it to the Wikipedia article and credit you for it. That way, you can contribute to the article in a constructive, organized way. Plus, it would be great to have someone of your experience giving us your view on our ancient traditions. I fully agree with you. We must work together on this to ensure that Kalari is presented properly to the world :) Kalariwarrior (talk) 16:43, 13 March 2020 (UTC) Indic script
Very well, but please ensure that a similar policy is followed in all pages related to Indian martial arts. I do not see this policy in place with the pages of Gatka, Varma Kalai, etc. These pages (amongst others) contain Indic script, but haven’t been removed. Kalariwarrior (talk) 10:32, 30 March 2020 (UTC) May 2020Hi kalariwarrior, Can you add Tacholi othenan on the infobox of Kalarippayattu page adjascent to unniyarcha. SrambikkalMallu (talk) 10:51, 21 May 2020 (UTC) I do not mind adding Thacholi Othenan, but the issue is that he does not have a Wikipedia page for himself. Unniyarcha, Aromal Chekavar, and Parasurama all have their own pages that are linked to the info box. If you can make a page for Thacholi Othenan, I would be very happy to add his name to the list. However, without a page of his own, he cannot be added to it. Kalariwarrior (talk) 15:52, 21 May 2020 (UTC) hi, Thankyou for your reply. There is a page for Thacholi othenan but it was redirected to vadakkan pattukal as of continous vandalism in the article and unwanted caste claims, Aromal chekavar page also was redirected at that time, please check for redirection.In my point of view if you can then please add Tacholi othenan or remove aromal chekavar also from infobox and keep unniyarcha alone.ThanksSrambikkalMallu (talk) 07:03, 22 May 2020 (UTC) Madhya Kerala StyleHi Have somme arguments related to madhya kerala style , i can see that from the history of the page , you are making a nice contribution to the page. So before making an arbitrary edit i thought of discussing with you and lets together agree up on things that are going to be added or removed . I would like to pint here that -> There is no such thing as Madhya Kerala, we cannot find those in ancient scripts or in history -> They even the promoters of madhya kerala like alex chacko , are saying that the name is creaed for promoting this by conducting competitions , the real name is kalam chavittu , as you might have seen from many facebook posts and comments. -> Kalam chavittu was introduced by attar bapu , a native of ponani malapuram who travelled to tamil nadu and even to sri lanka , these kalam chavittu is exactly same as angam pore of sri lanka , despite some minor changes -> Kalam chavittu cannot be considered as a authenthic kalari and it is fro ponani and kondotty taluks of malapuram , which not under madhya kerala , the name itself is wrong . -> introducing a new art from srilanka and mixing with some techniques of northern or southern doesn't make an authentic ancient style of kalaripayattu. -> Kerala Kalaripayattu association did not recognized this for the competition citing it is not kalaripayattu
These are the points i would like to put forward. I would like to point you that there exists many other authentic forms in akalripayattu which is not written down anywhere , so difficult give references . Kadathanadan Kadhina Yoga is one such. You cannot find any source other than a youtube video. So as a authentic page like wikipedia , where millions of people are visiting daily, it is better that we keep only unambiguous and authentic orginal ancient stlyes in page , so that it would help the tourists and other martial arts lovers to pick up the real things easily. I will post the same thing in kalaripayattu talk page also Thank You A Kalari lover. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kalari Poothara (talk • contribs) 11:47, 4 October 2020 (UTC) Thanks for your response! I am well aware that Madhya Kalari is not one of the original forms of Kalaripayattu. This is why the article refers to Madhya Kalari as a newer style. It also refers to the fact that the very existence of Madhya Kalari as a style is debatable, with many stating that it does not exist at all. While I myself do not fully see Madhya Kalari as a truly authentic style, I do believe that it is worth mentioning on the page. The page is not solely meant to convey the ancient forms of Kalaripayattu, but also its practice and forms in the modern age. Kalaripayattu is not an extinct martial art. Despite the best efforts of the British, Keralites have kept our martial art alive, and as a result, like any living martial art in the world, Kalaripayattu is growing, expanding and evolving in its own ways. I believe it is also wise to include the controversy of Madhya Kalaripayattu so that people know the nature of the debate behind Madhya Kalari and that it might be better to learn the more traditional styles. I do not want someone to look at Madhya Kalari and not know what it is, or worse, I do not want them to think that it is an authentic style because no one ever told them otherwise. If you can provide some decent sources, I’d be happy to add more information to the article about Madhya Kalari and why it is so controversial. Thanks for reaching out! Kalariwarrior (talk) 13:14, 4 October 2020 (UTC) ArbCom 2020 Elections voter message
Please help outPlease help me out @ User talk:Anarchyte Outlander07@talk 17:52, 5 December 2020 (UTC) I’ll help out. Kalariwarrior (talk) 18:02, 5 December 2020 (UTC) I’ve put in my view on the matter on the talk page. Let me know if there’s anything else I can do to help. Thank you for getting involved in this. I wish there weren’t so many disruptive editors on here. This one appears to be a refined POV pusher, as you stated. Kalariwarrior (talk) 18:59, 5 December 2020 (UTC) It appears that our disruptive little editor has accused us of being the same person on Suneye1’s talk page. It looks like he’s angry that his unsourced, POV edits are being reverted and questioned. See Anarchyte’s talk page for details. Kalariwarrior (talk) 00:51, 6 December 2020 (UTC) SignHi there, don't forget to sign your comments in the talk pages. I've signed your recent comments at User Talk:Anarchyte using Template:Unsigned for now. Regards, SUN EYE 1 03:56, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Let's move on with WP:ANI.I don’t have much time to reply to messages these days and I apologize for being late. ThanksOutlander07@talk 16:56, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
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Cullen, I saw that earlier. This editor is a rather controversial one who has had issues with numerous other editors on the site in editing disputes. He appears to have a long standing issue with me and has been chasing me around on Wikipedia for a month or so now. He appears to have gone through my entire contribution history to bring up mistakes I made several months ago when I was quite new to editing and unfamiliar with Wikipedia policies, and then blown them out of proportion in order to justify his report against me. Thank you for bringing this matter to my attention. I appreciate it. Kalariwarrior (talk) 23:11, 2 January 2021 (UTC) |
