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User talk:Just Chilling/Archive 2
'alleged' / story about Madeleine McCannI added in ' (though no details of any conviction have been published anywhere), ' on the Madeleine McCann page as these are living persons. If I were told '..convicted at X on date Y for ZZ offences' then I have something to go on. We don't have that yet. I'm a lawyer and have seen endless cases where the police and/or media push out this sort of comment. Do by all means revise me when you have that info.Red Hurley 11:17, 17 May 2007 (UTC) I now see that he (Malinka) has been living in Portugal for 7 years (thought it was 4), and is aged 22, so: either a) his crime was committed in Portugal - raising the question why they did not deport him, OR b) it was committed before he was 15 / 16, raising the question why the authorities knew of this and yet allowed him into Portugal. So when you say we cannot be confident on this - just that we haven't found any, you're using the argument used about WMD in Iraq. These are living persons so we have to be extra cautious about such allegations; wikipedia has been sued in the past.Red Hurley 13:03, 17 May 2007 (UTC) ThanksThanks for picking up that sheep thing. -- John Reaves (talk) 04:24, 18 May 2007 (UTC) Hello TerriersFan, an automated process has found an image or media file tagged as nonfree media, such as fair use. The image (Image:WCN.jpg) was found at the following location: User:TerriersFan. This image or media will be removed per statement number 9 of our non-free content policy. The image or media will be replaced with Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg , so your formatting of your userpage should be fine. The image that was replaced will not be automatically deleted, but it could be deleted at a later date. Articles using the same image should not be affected by my edits. I ask you to please not re-add the image to your userpage and could consider finding a replacement image licensed under either the Creative Commons or GFDL license or released to the public domain. Please note that it is possible that the image on your page is included vie a template or usebox. In that case, please find a free image for the template or userbox. Thanks for your attention and cooperation. User:Gnome (Bot)-talk 06:57, 19 May 2007 (UTC) Question for youAs you seem to be online, can I ask you a question rather than pestering AN/I with it - from WP policy point of view, is there any rule re posting inappropriate content in the sandbox? User:Chinese3126 has just left this charming addition for the next visitor to stumble on — iridescenti (talk to me!) 23:18, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Sandbox EditOh, I was just messing around with my friend on the Sandbox, I was telling him how Wikipedia works by means of the sandbox. I don't think how it would be offensive, I was just putting it in internet slang, by definition in internet slang, they did get pwned. Come to think of it, I guess the picture is kind of grotesque so I'd understand how even a few non-Jews would think of it as offensive. Anyway, it's the sandbox, I hope no harm has been done and here's your explanation. --Chinese3126 23:40, 20 May 2007 (UTC) HiHi TerriersFan, I'm the one who made the article on Ernest Bowen Desilva Elementary School, but what would make the article be notable? If you have time to respond, please do. Thank you! Hirohisat 08:09, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
'Parishes of' categories...are populated automatically by the UK parish infobox. Mauls 01:00, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Skegness SealionsHi TerriersFan, what are you views on the Skegness Sealions article that has recently been deleted? Why did you delete it? I will now restore it but please dont delete it again. Thank You —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjtheowl (talk • contribs)
WELL THE SKEGNESS SEALIONS ARTICLE HAS BEEN ON HERE FOR THE PAST 18 MONTHS AND NO-ONE HAS SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THEM IN THE LAST 18 MONTHS AND I JUST UPDATED IT TO FIND IT DELETED. Who the fuck do you think you are to go around deleting things people have given there time towards. You must think you're the real dog's dinner. The worse thing is you live in a shitty area of the country, full of crime, and support a shitty League One football team. I tell ya you must always have shitty pants cos from all this i reckon you think your to good to even wipe your own shitty arse. Just have a thought for other people, eh? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjtheowl (talk • contribs) Also if you READ(a skill which you from the Leeds Scum area may find hard to do) the notability notes, it says you must contact the author before you delete. You just decided to delete it reguardless. If you noticed I also left a message on Skegness Basketball saying I would improve if, if you told me what to do!!!!! WELL AT LEAST EXPLAIN YOURSELF! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjtheowl (talk • contribs)
indefblockI didn't realize that {{indefvandal}} was deleted recently. I was looking for a replacement when you fixed it. Thanks. :) --Ed (Edgar181) 17:06, 1 June 2007 (UTC) Last warnings for egregious vandals?Hi, I'm just wondering was it really necessary to give a "last warning" or indeed any warning to Ikilledmadelinemcann (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). If a little girl has been abducted, and someone registers a username saying that he has killed her, and then replaces the whole article about her with the words "She's fucking dead", and, when reverted, starts adding stuff about how she was raped and thrown into the sea and her eyes plucked out by crows, I can't imagine that it's appropriate to give that vandal a second chance under the same, highly inappropriate, username. Personally, I can't imagine that someone capable of such appallingly bad taste and such cruelty would start making good edits to other articles if given a second chance, but it they did, it would have to be under a different username. The reason I'm asking is that I tend to give fewer warnings to registered users than to IPs, and generally go straight to WP:AIV without warning if I see really, really malicious vandalism that indicates a vandal account. ElinorD (talk) 17:43, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
My edits to Disappearance of Madeleine McCannSorry for that, I really should have looked further into it and raised the point on the talk page. My apologies. WATP (talk) • (contribs) 23:06, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
A. HalmanHi. Can you see Talk:Suicide of Anna Halman#moving and merging for details? Is this normal to delete practically articles? -jkb- 10:08, 2 June 2007 (UTC) VandalismHey Terriers, I was just wondering if you could help me with a little problem. I can't figure out how to get some vandalism off of this image, [1]. If you could help me, it would be much appreciated. Thanks, Ben. Bmrbarre 19:36, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
More VandalismHey again, this dude's gotta be stopped. Check out what he did to Marines. Not cool, not cool at all. Here's the IP: User:172.201.208.73. Thx a bunch, Ben. Bmrbarre 23:08, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
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SignatureI'm trying to cobble together a signature, but I think I'm messing up some how, I just don't know how. I left what should be my signature up on the user page right near the top. Could you proofread it or help me to figure out what's wrong? Please and thanks,Ben
Thanks for the supportUh, I'm getting sick of having articles I created be deleted. It always seems like an uphill battle. Must be Wikistress. Well, thanks for your support. As I'm sure you know, I've had problems with Maria before, and I can't stand it that she just nominated something and then left it, as she said, "I merely nominated the article based on what it lacks...I'm not interested. Post your ideas/comments/etc on the article's talk page, where they belong and where people who are interested will see them and respond." Why must people do that? It seems to me that if you really care enough to nominate an article for deletion, you should have the time to help fix it up if that is possible, or at least put forth some other options. Maybe I'm too much of an inclusionist, I don't know or care any more. Do you think that creating an article on Gesine Bullock-Prado would be a good idea? It could feature stuff from this article and more (see my comment on the AFD for more info. And thanks for helping to improve the article. User:Bmrbarre
Lunds ASKWould you care to give more of an explanation of your LUNDS ASK/SK Rockaden closure? I'm not sure I understand your reasons fully. Are you suggesting that if the article isn't better sourced after a period of time it might be worth nominating again? And what criteria are you using to evaluate these championships/members as notability indicators? FrozenPurpleCube 18:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Deletion of Boxer_text_editor entryHi TerriersFan, I was surprised and disappointed to find that you had deleted what I felt was a neutral and informative entry for our product, the Boxer Text Editor. At the time I created it, I modeled it after other product entries so as to be in the flavor of what seemed to be allowed and accepted. In the deletion log, there seems to be a reference to "notability." In looking over the products in the comparison table on this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_text_editors -- all of whose entries point to individual Wikipedia pages of similar form to what was once Boxer_text_editor -- I come away very puzzled. If Boxer is not sufficiently "notable" to be included in that table, then some two thirds of the remaining entries would need to be judged likewise. I am putting aside all prejudice in making that statement. I don't think anyone would benefit from such a harsh editing of that comparison table, and that's not what I'm advocating. But I would like to understand how it is that my product was singled out from among so may of its equals and subordinates for deletion. Thank You, David Hamel
http://www.boxersoftware.com/pgrevi.htm http://www.boxersoftware.com/pgcust.htm http://www.boxersoftware.com/pgcoun.htm http://www.boxersoftware.com/pgquot.htm I would be happy to supply other information; just let me know.—Preceding unsigned comment added by David Hamel (talk • contribs)
Re: School violenceHi, I think that the full protection of this article was a good shout, since it has bought us some time. However, we cannot leave it fully protected for much longer since we want the rest of the article to be developed. Also, whenever the protection is lifted Dezidor is going to come straight back and put the name in. The problem is not with the page but with the user. Consequently, my suggestion is that I place a formal warning for disruptive editing on his talk page and lift the protection at the same time. If he continues to reinsert the name then I suggest a final warning followed by a short ban, with escalating bans if necessary. What do you think, please? TerriersFan 16:54, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Algiers Coffee HouseAn editor has asked for a deletion review of Algiers Coffee House. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Puppy Mill 00:54, 17 June 2007 (UTC) IRC cloak requestI am TerriersFan on freenode and I would like the cloak wikimedia/sean-whitton. Thanks. --TerriersFan 02:10, 17 June 2007 (UTC) wtf?This guy giving you trouble? --Butseriouslyfolks 02:16, 17 June 2007 (UTC) Sorry, sorryI'm really sorry, I think I got confused as to what I was looking at there... a normal redirect to a user, etc etc. Sorry about the trouble. Mea culpa. 70.156.100.106 02:26, 17 June 2007 (UTC) LASKThanks for keeping Lunds ASK. You have restored a little faith about Wikipedia being run through reason rather than guidelines. I consider deletion it a waste of time. True -- there are currently no reliable sources, but I can guarantee that there are articles about it in Tidskrift för schack [2] and Schacknytt [3]. But as I don't have access to old copies of those magazines ATM I cannot search them. And am I the only one who thinks it is inconsequent to delete such an article when there are hundreds of articles such as Brislington F.C.? / Fred-J 15:57, 17 June 2007 (UTC) Your cloak requestUnfortunately I could not process it because you did not supply a registered nickname on freenode. Please correct this and submit a fresh request. —Sean Whitton / 17:21, 18 June 2007 (UTC) Thank you for your comments on my Editor ReviewThanks for your comments on my editor review. I understand and appreciate your point of view. Unfortunately, I don't agree with it fully but I nonetheless appreciate your taking the time to communicate it. To be specific, while I agree that it would be nice if all new articles were fully sourced and otherwise "up to snuff", I don't believe this is how things work in practice nor do I believe that this is how they should work. I believe in being WP:BOLD and starting out articles with a bare minimum and then allowing the collaborative process to improve it by adding to it or deleting it. Moreover, I don't agree with you that your criticism of my action is a valid reason to oppose my request for adminship. Wikipedia is a large community and I believe there is room for civil cooperation among contributors with differing philosophies. I don't see how my approach to article creation is relevant to my ability to be a good admin. What admin actions do you think would be adversely affected by my "lax" attitude towards article creation? Do you believe that I would be any less objective in evaluating CSD and AFD nominations? I don't think I would be any less objective. In any event, since you indicated that you would not support my RFA at this time, I wanted to let you know that I have been nominated for and have submitted a Request for adminship. You are invited to express your opinions there as well. In keeping with the "no canvassing for RFAs" dictum, I am only canvassing those who have expressed negative opinions on my editor review and I am not canvassing those who have expressed positive opinions. --Richard 08:02, 19 June 2007 (UTC) Hi again. The tally on my RFA is running 57/1/0 with the one "oppose" opinion being from you. Now, of course, you have the right to your own opinion and, in truth, changing your mind won't really affect the final result when the RFA closes in a couple of days. However, I figured I ought to try to see if there is anything that I could do to change your mind. Upon further reflection, I have admitted in the Discussion section of my RFA, that creating Fire safety education was not the best thing that I have done on Wikipedia. It was really kind of lame and I think, in retrospect, that I should have given it more thought and been less lazy. That said, I still think that this mistake is not so grave that it should be used as a reason to deny me adminship. So... in the context of my recognizing the error and apologizing for it, I ask you to reconsider the opinion that you expressed on my RFA. It's no big deal either way but I just figured I'd make the effort to convince you that I am, in fact, worthy of adminship. --Richard 23:20, 22 June 2007 (UTC) Madeleine McCann?I've observed your arduous work concerning the Madeleine McCann page, I feel that although it needs more updates, perhaps it's being disproportionately edited? Editors time and effort is being eaten up by one article, while other articles that require regular updates are being neglected. I was just curious as to your opinion on this? 82.20.51.180 13:57, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Terriers, Here's an extract from the policy on semi protection - Temporary semi-protection may be used for: Preventing vandalism when blocking users individually is not a feasible option, such as a high rate of vandalism from a wide range of anonymous IP addresses. Article talk pages that are being disrupted; this should be used sparingly because it prevents new users and anons from being part of discussions.
Semi-protection should not be used: As a preemptive measure against vandalism before any vandalism has occurred. In a content dispute between registered users and anonymous users, with the intention to lock out the anonymous users. With the sole purpose of prohibiting editing by anonymous users. Protection should be used only to prevent continuing disruption. I would regard your reason for semi protection as 'content dispute'. Since registered users are just as likely to add mis-information and unsourced facts as IP users the semi ptotection of this article is not warranted. Accordingly I would ask you to remove it immediately. Thanks. 86.31.158.130 12:46, 8 September 2007 (UTC) Just out of curiosity, why was that entry deleted? The only reason I saw was: "Expired, uncontested prod". Which really doesn't tell me anything other than that someone felt it should be deleted.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Geekartist (talk • contribs)
I don't know that I'd be allowed to enter the information on Wikipedia. I'm married to the creator of Skippyslist. I assume that would be too much like him doing it himself, which I understand that Wikipedia frowns on. It's primary notability is popular military humor...that's pretty much it. So perhaps that's not what Wikipedia is looking for. Thanks for the feedback. I was just wondering, since I'd seen it here once before. Orphaned non-free image (Image:Madeleine McCann.jpg)Thanks for uploading Image:Madeleine McCann.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media). If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BetacommandBot 06:26, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Spam in OK Nyelviskola Hello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on OK Nyelviskola, by Montco (talk · contribs), another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because OK Nyelviskola is blatant advertising for a company, product, group, service or person that would require a substantial rewrite in order to become an encyclopedia article. Adriane Knoppix - so merge is it?Your decision:
Where did you take that from? Sceptical Ben T/C 12:17, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for expressing your opinion on my RFAMy RFA has ended and I have been granted adminship. I will try to keep the point that you made in mind as I continue editing Wikipedia. Please feel free to give me feedback if you feel that I am not keeping up to the highest standards of Wikipedia. --Richard 14:33, 26 June 2007 (UTC) WikiProject?I have noticed that User:Student7 has several sandboxes which contain articles on Roman Catholic churches in Vermont. This is of interest to me, so do you think that we could start a WikiProject together, something like "Roman Catholicism in Vermont"? If so, what would be the next step in pursuing this? Thanks in advance for any help or advice, Ben 14:34, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Australian Labor StudentsNo. There were two respondents who argued for either merge or delete. There were four respondents who argued that the article should be kept. If this were a deletion discussion, I would take the matter to deletion review. Since it was a merge, and a matter of editorial discretion, I chose to follow the actual result of the AfD. It has already been discussed there; if you would like to merge, feel free to start a discussion on the talk page. Rebecca 16:44, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Edit SummaryFair point. I do try to enter information when relevant, as you will have seen, but for minor points I don't. I must admit to being a bit taken aback by your comment. Sure, I could improve, but I'm not doing badly. I guess I'm just disappointed that, after a lot of work, I only get criticism and not thanks. Please reply on my page. Robinson weijman 18:13, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Much appreciated!Thanks with the image i posted!Please respond on my talk page!Cheers!(Sparrowman980 22:14, 1 July 2007 (UTC)) AlverstokeMany thanks for your efforts in helping a noob Wikipedian get Alverstoke up to scratch. Your tidying up of my many scrawls is greatly appreciated! VTSPOWER 10:59, 2 July 2007 (UTC) Show preview buttonPlease use the Show preview button to enable you to combine edits and reduce the number of Saves that you do. This avoids bulking out the edit History with lots of small edits. The Show preview button is located just to the right of the Save button that you use. Thanks. Hu 12:09, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 2007 UK terrorist threatWhy did you have to create this unnecessary page? Why? Abc30 17:00, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Editing..Do you like causing inappropriate nuisance?? You seem to edit every single article, particularly relating to what I've edited using my extensive police knowledge. You seem to have edited the article 'Peter Clarke' using my comments, you appear to grasp no concept for anything pertaining to the Metropolitan Police Service. You may well be an Administrator, but I can guarantee that you probably were elected so through Wikipedians electing you. One of my most favoured intellectuals once said, "a Prime Minister may be elected, but he can also be kicked out".—Preceding unsigned comment added by PoliceChief (talk • contribs)
That would be nutty!Could you see me closing controversial school AfD's? "Delete, delete, delete . . ." That would hardly be fair! ;-) Thanks for your support! -- But|seriously|folks 03:32, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Disappearance of Madeleine McCannI have attempted to make some changes to the timeline relating to Madeleine's disappearance, as those currently given do not tally with most reports (please see discussion on talk page). As I know you have an interest in this page, I would be interested in your thoughts. Another user has reverted my edits due to an erroneous perception that they were made to 'paint the McCanns in a bad light'. This, presumably by virtue of my other edits to the page. In any event, I fail to see how correcting the timeline (which is essentially a quibble about 15 minutes) makes any difference to the manner in which the McCann's are perceived.Snowbunni 12:17, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
TerriersFan, I've left a message for you on the DOMM Talk page, see current event tag discussion. Snowbunni 19:56, 22 July 2007 (UTC) Well, I was looking for a prettier way to do this, but I'm not very artistic, so I'll just say thank you for your support in my RfA, which was closed as successful. I'll see you around the school scene! -- But|seriously|folks 08:57, 12 July 2007 (UTC) Hey, Terriers, could you check out this AFD I'm involved in? I really feel strongly about this one, since it's fairly close to home (well, it is Vermont) for me. Everything in Vermont is smaller, so people tend to use that as a reason to delete the small stuff we have, and that gets to me. Being small in a small state does not take away from the significance of something (check out my comments on the AFD, I explained what I meant much better there). I hope I stayed civil with those comments. I tried, I really did. Back to my point, could you possibly improve the article and/or vote. If you feel it should be deleted, then please vote that way. Any comments are helpful, especially delete ones. And btw, is there a policy against editing an article and then voting keep, cause I got chewed out for it. Anyways, thanks a bunch, Ben 02:01, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
FormattingJust some minor formatting stuff for the future: 1) should I put refs directly next to periods, or a space away,
2) should it be two equal signs, space, title, space, equal sings, or drop the spaces entirely
3)and is official site the correct term to use?
4) Also, if I wanted to use www.llamaturkeyfuzzyaardvarkmunchkin.com as a ref, should I word it llama turkey fuzzy aardvark munchkin.com? Any advice on this minor formatting stuff? Thx, Ben 02:50, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering if you could review this article I created today entitled Hope Cemetery. I tried to use the new formatting, and I picked up a way to do the a, b, c, d, etc. if you use one source more than once. I really like the article, and was hoping that I could get it on DYK. Sorry about last night, I had just gotten back from work and was a wee bit too tired. And hyped on caffeine, meaning I didn't feel tired. BTW, I guess I should invite you to check out AFD's. Some guy voted delete because he saw that I had canvassed you...sheesh. Ben 16:06, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Re: Category:Blue Ribbon schoolsHi TerriersFan, Some thoughts and questions: According to the article about Blue Ribbon schools, "The program recognized more than 3,000 schools from its inception through 1996". That's a lot of potential articles for the category, with about 300 new awards added a year; would it be a good idea to sort this out by state, either sooner or later? How useful will it be to know that a school was a blue ribbon school 15 or 20 years ago? Will that be any indication at all of the school's merit, say 5 to 10 years from now? Would it also be a good idea to have state lists (not subcategories) of Blue Ribbon schools? If I find any, I'll certainly add them to the list. Thanks for all your efforts. Noroton 19:29, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Boldface in leadsHi there. Please stop reverting my edits -- I'm only complying with WP:MS:
Have I misunderstood the guideline? It seems to me that the tragedy does not have an official name - the article merely describes an event. I did explain in my edit descriptions and provide a link to the relevant part of WP:MS. chgallen 15:28, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Smile Connell66 has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Hey, I've just come back from my brief holiday and checking the history of Disappearance of Madeleine McCann it appears that some pretty keen edit warring has been going on. One of the key elements of passing the WP:GA is stability, and right now I'm afraid the article may not be stable enough. All of the edits you've made in accordance with my suggestions are great and I feel the article has improved no end, but right now I think it may have to be failed simply due to the edit war and discussions on the talk page. What's your take on it? The Rambling Man 11:43, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
I-35W Mississippi River bridgeI would trust local news sources like WCCO about the number of missing rather than the Times. The number of missing is also at lead of the article and referenced. Could you delete this image? It was used to vandalize the article. P.Haney 02:32, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
The Apprentice UK
Dalejenkins | The Apprentice (UK)'s FA plea-please have your say! 19:30, 3 August 2007 (UTC) I note that on 14.03.2007 you added the incident concerning Mr Sloan to this page. Could you describe your motivation for doing so? Are you a present or former student/teacher of the school? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tirana22 (talk • contribs)
Could you please respond to the previously posted request to explain why in March 2007 you added this incident about the teacher to the St Thomas More Page? My specific purpose is to find out if it was a reversion or a fresh insertion. I checked some previous posts so I don't know which one applies. Tirana22 14:34, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
re: bolding the titleMy bad, I didn't know MoS said that. SGGH speak! 01:11, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
MadeleineI undestand your rv of my contributions on Madeleine McCann. However, I must explain that they were not a fruit from my imagination. Portuguese main TV networks were reporting exactly what I added to the article since police returned to Murats home and the McCanns apartment in early August. Miguelzinho 21:37, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
Merge proposalA proposal has been made to merge Replacement I-35W Mississippi River bridge into I-35W Mississippi River bridge. The matter is being discussed at Talk:Replacement I-35W Mississippi River bridge. Please feel free to comment. Thank you. Kablammo 18:29, 8 August 2007 (UTC) LakelandsAs you said, it's close to sufficient. Looking at them all, Montgomery County may be one of the exceptions where articles can be written for most of the schools. But I agree with you that establishing the precedent for the merge is very important. I wouldn't expect much immediate trouble, and you will see why if you look at [4]. But I do not see just how it would work as a separate section following the existing article for the public schools, because it is done as a table. (Most of the school district articles are merely sections, which makes it easy.) Suggestion: Create an article Montgomery County Middle Schools. There's no reason not to have this as well as the table: you could put a link to it in the Middle School subheader box of the table. Make sections for each of them, and add the material for this one & link to the section from the listing for the school in the table. I think it will take some experimentation to find the best way for these articles. DGG (talk) 23:16, 8 August 2007 (UTC) RfDI noticed that you voted to keep the Wp:an/i and Wp:afd redirects at the Redirects for deletion page. I also voted to keep these redirect pages. I thought that if they were removed, then I would not automatically get to the pages I was looking for if I happened to type all lowercase letters, which would be pretty inconvenient. However, it turns out I was wrong. The software will automatically send someone to the appropriate page, even if they type all lowercase, and even if the redirect pages are deleted. It's just like a redirect, but without the redirect page. Deleting them will remove needless clutter in mainspace searches. With this knowledge, I wonder if you might consider changing your vote to delete. Thanks, and have a good day. Nick Graves 18:11, 9 August 2007 (UTC) Miami-Dade middle schoolsI don't have any problem at all with summaries for those that have articles. In fact, I think it's a good idea, but if there's an AfD, I'd wait until it's over, so that we don't lose information. On second thought, everything is stored in the history of the article, so go right ahead. Whatever you think is best. But if some AfD discussion results in deleting the school article, I hope you'll restore whatever good information might have been lost. But I'll defer to whatever you think is best since I don't have a strong opinion. Creating that article was a bit of a test or an exploration for me -- I'm not at all sure what this kind of list should look like. If you think there's a better way to do it, I'd be interested in seeing what you come up with. Noroton 23:06, 9 August 2007 (UTC) Vistas high schoolToday I spoke directly with Peggy Ekster, the Vistas High School Program Director, and verified with her that there was no high school named Vistas High School, that it was indeed a program under the Klein Independent School District. My changes had nothing to do with the "no consensus" vote on the AfD, it has to do with WP:V, and WP:RS. You have no sources that show a school exists named Vistas High School. I will send you Peggy's contact information via email. – Dreadstar † 21:56, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. I got distracted in the middle of trying to figure out what was wrong with the thing. – Dreadstar † 02:25, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
RUSU: Opinion?TerriersFan, I wonder if I could pick your brain briefly. I nominated Spark for deletion, on the grounds of non-notability, and you voted for deletion in the discussion, stating "Notability comes from reliable secondary sources attesting to the notability of the subject of the page". I've now been looking at Reading University Students' Union, and I reckon that fits the same description, in terms of lacking notability because of a lack of secondary sources, but I'm a little too aprehensive to nominate it for deletion. What's your opinion? Is it notable enough not to be deleted? I have no idea, but my gut reaction is 'no'. A second opinion would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ;) TheIslander 00:10, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
TruceYou and I see notability much differently, and that will often set us at odds of AfD discussions, but I admire your ability to fight for something you see worth keeping, even when I disagree. We're both passionate about the school issue, there's no reason for us to snipe at each other as we're both in it for the long haul. That being said, I did today create Beaufort County School District as per your suggestion, and already there is an editor that says that school districts themselves are not notable. My argument would be that as a governing body for units that do have notability, and as institutions in their own right, districts are notable. This editor (at the Mossy Oak discussion) sounds like he wants a scorched-earth, no-school-left-undeleted policy, which I know you don't want any more than I do. Can you suggest a rock-solid policy that shows districts should stay? Cheers, Chris 01:04, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hand Middle SchoolOk, done. I have some remaining concerns, noted in my comment, but since I feel that these need to be addressed at the policy level rather than applied arbitrarily, I've reluctantly changed to a weak keep. Jakew 13:19, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thomas and Friends video releasesI disagree with this closing. I won't take it to DRV, because apparently there is a large number of articles like these. I'd like to AfD them all, but I don't know if mass AfD nominations go over well. At the very least they should be merged with list of episode pages. Since you're the closing admin, I'd like your opinion on mass AfD noms of categories of articles. i said 22:37, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Madeleine McCann article deletion proposalLooks like I missed all the fun. I am away at the moment with limted internet access, which is why I am not contributing. Harry was a white dog with black spots 11:24, 15 August 2007 (UTC) Your fixing of school articlesI noticed you and DS1953 have fixed some articles I and others have put on PROD. Thanks for your work; feel free to remove all the other PROD's I have added if you can improve the articles. I wonder if it would be quicker rather than bringing school articles to AFD and PROD, just to ask you to fix them! Camaron1 | Chris 19:07, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
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Hey. I just wanted to pop by to say thanks for all your edits to the article today, they have made the article look much better :) Not so sure about the accademic section, as only about 50% of pupils get 5 or more a*-c incl english and maths. :P Tiddly Tom 21:18, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Redirect of Talk:Beaufort County School DistrictHello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Talk:Beaufort County School District, by another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Talk:Beaufort County School District is a redirect to a non-existent page (CSD R1). Your edits to Marvin the Paranoid AndroidOn my Talk page, you wrote in part:
Can you honestly not see that I have been discussing this on the Talk page for over two months? It is me that started, and who is trying to encourage, a discussion. I revert because of an absence of discussion. You also included links to the guidelines. As far as I can see, I am the only one following them. HairyWombat 01:08, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
I wish that you would give me a chance to convince you otherwise before slapping an AfD tag on the page. It is a candidate for expansion, which User:Mind meal seems to be working on, and not deletion... youngamerican (wtf?) 19:49, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
GoddammitI've been in bed sick for a week. I just woke up, and noticed Nation's had been deleted TEN MINUTES beforehand. I am in stunned disbelief. I was almost feeling good enough after my protracted illness to provide a lengthy dissertation on its notability - nigh-legendary to East Bay residents - until I noticed my infirmed bedtime schedule made me fall far behind Wikipedia's. I mean, come on, man... MC Hammer took his kid there, man... (and in doing so, caused homesickness to legions of erstwhile East Bay dwellers)... MC Hammer... I don't know that it gets any more notable than that. I think I've now made this my own personal crusade. If I recreate it, will it just get speedeleted? Anyway, I know where I'm going for breakfast as soon as I feel well enough again —Wiki Wikardo 17:13, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Giant squid AFDI guess I'm confused as to why if there is no appropriate merge target that advocating merger blocks deletion. Otto4711 18:02, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Caroline Chisholm SchoolDone. Nice work, by the way. Jakew 20:48, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Audioslave albumI hadn't noticed because they weren't linked in the AfD... oh well, better go and redirect them! ... Done.ELIMINATORJR 23:46, 27 August 2007 (UTC) The Gold Star Chili articleGold Star Chili, what do you think? User:Mind meal has added a bunch of stuff, and I did a little bit to add some international context (who'd guess that you can get in in Syria and Palestine of all places?!?!). LEt me know if it is keepable in you opinion now. youngamerican (wtf?) 13:02, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Schools proposalSorry for the slow response; I have now given my comments on the issue at User talk:TerriersFan/Schools. Thanks. Camaron1 | Chris 13:34, 29 August 2007 (UTC) Robot ChickenHi,Sorry about mistyping the redirect -- as I said when closing, this should go to the episode list. I didn't realize you intended to extend the AfD to all 44 episodes (I thought you were speaking theoretically only.) As a practical matter, one AfD for 44 articles is a bad idea; as a procedural matter, since the other articles were never tagged for an AfD, the AfD can't apply to them. I consider the AfD to apply only to that one episode -- broader questions concerning the entire series are best handled at RfC, Centralized Discussion, or article talk pages. An omnibus AfD would be an invitation to chaos; and (if I were to hazard a guess) would have a high probability of being closed as either as procedurally defective, or as no consensus. AfD is not the right place to handle that kind of question, since one would not really be asking for deletion, but rather en masse redirection. As for the images, I believe community consensus in general disfavors images in "episode list" articles, a decision taken after a controversy at the Simpsons list. Best wishes, Xoloz 19:34, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Bayern - NorwichI did a massive rewrite, but I'm getting endless edit conflicts. Can you leave it for a few minutes, I'll insert my version and then fix your amends. --Dweller 15:21, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
HeyONLY because YOU asked, Mr. Save Our Schools Articles, I grabbed the two New York Times articles you asked for (I didn't even look over any others). They were PDFs and I printed them out. Do you have them already? I was moving things around on the page and found you were also making changes, so I took my version and put it on my user pages. Sometime tomorrow (I'm going to bed now), I'll look over what you've done and see if my ideas might fit into that (I was going to split it into three sections, top, "History" and "Community involvement"), but again, only because You're The Man with school saves, I'm going to defer to you and see what you do to the place. Please leave me a message on my talk page to tell me if you got the NYT articles. I get to grab 100 a month from the Times as a subscriber. If I could send them to you, I would, but I don't think they'll let me copy them (I haven't tried yet though. If I can, you'll be getting an email). Noroton 04:59, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Ugh! I just did send you another email not 15 minutes ago. Could you please check your email controls. Could it be that it's going to another email address than the one you think it is? Noroton 14:15, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
High school notabilityIt still amazes me how little work is necessary to improve most high school article, a la Morgan Park High School. It seems clear that consensus is that high schools are notable, and there is more and more of a buzz in AfDs to this tune. Rather than trying to agree on standards for notability of such schools ("we all agree that a high school is notable if it meets the following..."), I suggest that we use the WP:OUTCOMES process to document that schools meeting certain characteristics have reached a consensus of notability. It's time that we could stop having to fight each skirmish on AfD as an individual battle that needs to be fought over and over again, with the same determined minority choosing "Delete" regardless of the merits of the particular article or the broad consensus that has been reached. Alansohn 17:49, 31 August 2007 (UTC) RetiringHi. I am going to retire from editing Wikipedia and I would appreciate it if you protected my userpage. This will most likely be my last edit unless you, for some reason, can not protect userpages. Thanks!--eskimospy (talk • contribs • review me) 23:41, 1 September 2007 (UTC) ScopeThis is a most useful bot but its scope is too narrow. Many schools are not in Category:WikiProject Schools. Can it be asked to crawl around the subcategories of Category:Schools, please? TerriersFan 01:55, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Dravidian civilizationsCan you kindly show me one of those "plenty" of sources which say the article is a valid concept? Waiting for your response. Gnanapiti 21:19, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Pleasant Ridge Chili DRVJust a short note back, re your comment at the Pleasant Ridge Chili DRV. All the best and thanks :) FT2. Dravidian civilisationsHi, I'm surprised that you think there was no consensus. If you read the discussion, you'll see that everyone who voted delete was asking Wikiraja (the author of the article) to cite the very first line in the article. It is still uncited. Instead of providing citations, he's just stonewalled with just his assertions and nothing else. And as for it not being a hoax, well 90 percent of the article is cited.. because it is copied and pasted from several different articles! The thing here was that this artificial stiching together of random snippets from several articles is OR, synthesis and consequently a hoax. I request you to take another look at the close and if need be leave it open for some more days. Also if you note, apart from Wikiraja and a couple of others, many others who voted keep are strangers to the subject and were evidently fooled by seeing the citations(none of which, incidentally is Wiki Raja's work). Sarvagnya 02:15, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
I sincerely ask that you take a look at the evidence here and give this issue some more thought. The "official" name designated by UNESCO is not necessarily the common name. "Wandu Mountain City" is not used in any of the reliable English publications. Cydevil38 17:47, 7 September 2007 (UTC) Re: Disappearance of Madeleine McCannYes, I had just read that on the main MoS page and at Wikipedia:Lead_section#Bold_title, and was about to correct myself when I realised you had beaten me to the punch :D Sorry about that. Extraordinary Machine 18:59, 7 September 2007 (UTC) Re: Disappearance of Madeleine McCannYOu told me not to remove the lawyer's statement. The source for it was a Brit news site and claimed Kate McCann asked for arguida status. I live in Portugal, watch Portuguese TV and it was told the Judiciary Police had declared her a suspect. I suggest you find something to back up the lawyer's remarks, because if SHE asked for it, it makes every news outlet, except the one cited, look like fools. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maluka (talk • contribs) 14:39, 8 September 2007 (UTC) Oops forgot to sign. You wrote "Please do not remove sourced material; for example the lawyer's statement. Also we don't use newspaper reports quoting 'sources' - we rely on actual statements. Please use the ((cite web}} format for references. Thanks. TerriersFan 17:07, 7 September 2007 (UTC)" You don't use newspaper reports quoting 'sources'? The why is the lawyer's statement taken from "http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/09/06/nmaddy306.xml" was used? I can't find this anywhere else. I live in Portugal, watch the news, have followed every aspect and it was never mentioned Kate McCann requested this status. If she had, all the papers are wrong, the TV reporters are wrong and I sense the hand of one of their team in editing this. It changes everything. Please find other sources to back it up or I'll keep taking it out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maluka (talk • contribs) 14:51, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Re: penguinsThat works for me – go for it! - KrakatoaKatie 19:56, 8 September 2007 (UTC) Madeleine McCann? (2)Hi TerriersFan, Perhaps you could address the points I made earlier today regarding Wiki policy on semi protection in the Madeleine McCann? section above. As noted there, I think you need to unprotect the article. 86.31.158.130 20:59, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Disappearance of Madeleine McCannHi, thank you for your interest in making sure Disappearance of Madeleine McCann complies with WP:BLP. While I agree it would have been inappropriate to add the material earlier, surely it is relevant now that the parents are both official suspects and charges are probably iminent. Hermitian 02:09, 9 September 2007 (UTC) Just a note to thank you for your invaluable work in fixing the details of Portuguese names. TerriersFan 22:34, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your help! Cricketgirl 22:41, 9 September 2007 (UTC) The Child SchoolRe: the article move to "Child School", I've offered some evidence on Talk:Child School as to why I believe it should be moved back to "The Child School". – Zedla 23:44, 9 September 2007 (UTC) LEAD boldingYou didn't actually revert but just changed the first few words (thank goodness, because the previous first sentence was incredibly limp). The MoS sections you cite do not advise going out of your way to avoid bolding but rather do not mangle phrasing simply for the sake of bolding. I did not mangle phrasing and I don't see the reason to avoid bolding for the sake of it. The vast majority of Wiki articles bold the title and there's a clear expectancy that it will happen unless there's really no good phrasing that can be thought up; there is no especial reason that it shouldn't be done in this case. Marskell 20:04, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
To be more friendlyI just re-read my previous posts and thought that I sounded needlessly brusque (an "old contributor" problem). I see that you and 'Harry was a white dog...' have put an enormous amount of effort into this page. I really do think the LEAD is better off with bold, where the meaning isn't compromised. But I don't mind talking about things in general, if you have any uncertain points with this page that you want to raise with an uninvolved editor. Marskell 22:22, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Good jobGood job on the update to the "suspects" section. The only niggle I have is that McGuinness is quoted as saying Kate denied that Madeleine's blood could have been found in the car, yet there is no previous mention of the forensics in that section. The first mention is the Brunt quote which occurs on the 10th. It seems to hang out there by itself, and it looks a bit odd to have Kate denying something that appears to have been said only three days later. I can't think of a way forward at this stage. Maybe we can move a general mention of the forensics up? Harry was a white dog with black spots 19:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Re: Response to the disappearance of Madeleine McCannThanks, and I should thank you for your much more valuable contributions to the articles, including the removing of inaccurate and/or poorly sourced information. The coverage of the case is interesting to me on so many levels (particularly how the media has responded to recent events), so it's good to know that I can look at the articles here for information and updates — particularly given that many mainstream news outlets seem to resort to speculation and subjective commentary so easily. I wasn't aware of Parris's journalistic style, so I don't mind if what I added is removed if you think it doesn't belong there. I agree it is rather funny reading articles written by journalists that criticise other journalists for their coverage of the case... or how about reporters stationed in Rothley commenting on the heavy media presence in Rothley! Extraordinary Machine 00:49, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
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StuffI'm not going to barnstar a fellow admin but I wanted to let you know that your work at Madaleine's article is super impressive. Keep it going, I'm sure it's not easy with the volume of traffic there. Don't fail to shout for a hand if you need it... The Rambling Man 19:59, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
BoldingI have posted to the talk page. I provided six diffs within the last thousand of random just-stopping-by editors bolding the first line because that's what we do on Wikipedia. You have no consensus. This isn't actually about consensus but about WP:OWN. And bloody hell, if you're going to revert an established editor do it with you're own edit summary and not as a bot. Marskell 20:25, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Archaeological siteI'll happily do that, but my magnifying glass continually draws a blank when I ask it to take me to one of the above words in the (now rather long) article (plus 'dig'), so please let me know in which section it is. [Please see below.] While we're at it, I have to admit I was a bit surprised when you removed this paragraph on speculation grounds: 'The Observer reported on 16 September that crucial evidence may have been lost by the time the first police (GNR) arrived. Police in Lisbon had criticised the local force for focusing too much on the suspect Robert Murat.[1].' First sentence speculation, sure, but 2nd rather a typical bit of local colour, & part of the story, I thought. Perhaps I should have phrased it the other way round. Rothorpe 21:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Red LinksRegarding this edit, please note that per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages) redlinks are OK. Both of the redlinks you removed are ones that will be created. Per WP:BIO a state legislator is automatically notable, and the law professor is referenced in another article and is the head of an important constitutional law group. Per Wikipedia:Red link, red links are OK. They should only be removed for topics that will never have articles, not ones that just don't yet. In fact they can be helpful so multiple articles about the same person are not written since a uniform nameing convention has been adopted and hopefully an editor will find the red link instead of making one up, I know I've seen it several times doing assessment for WP:WPBIO. Aboutmovies 21:47, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Date dabsMy reasoning was twofold:
Also, we really should mention when they claimed to put them all to bed. Surely that's in one of the sources. Marskell 22:15, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
FigueiraThanks, weird! Rothorpe 16:46, 17 September 2007 (UTC) Disappearance of Madeleine McCannHi, Terriers, I was wondering why the link for the BBC News note number 9 is not available. Wasn't it just three days ago? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Miguelmoura333 (talk • contribs) 21:38, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Image: St pats shield logoThanks for updating the fair use rationale on Image:st_pats_shield_logo.jpg for me. I appreciate your service, but.... You should let the uploader know that you have done so by adding a done comment after the bot message. I didn't check the history of the page first, I checked the places the bot message indicates. So it took me a while to get around to checking the history page for the image. I could see no reason the bot would be mad, because of course, you had added the link to the page. Thanks for the help. No need to reply. --Jvv62 14:10, 18 September 2007 (UTC) More access to New York Times archivesGood news: The New York Times has opened its archives from 1851-1922 and from 1987 to the present. Announcement here. Cheers! Noroton 15:37, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
VandalismHello again, Terriers: it's been a while. I just wanted to bring to light the fact that the page Perceptions of religious imagery in natural phenomena seems to have been vandalised. I'm not sure what can be done, but under the "Jesus on a coach" section and the "Nike basketball shoes" section. I just briefly glanced through the article, and I'm pretty sure that there is more vandalism there. Any ideas or suggestions of what should be done? Does someone have to check through all of the history to find the vandals? What is the process? Thanks, Ben 01:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Disappearance of Madeleine McCannHi, I followed your suggestion of using the main page image of Madeleine and applied it over-the-top of the Moroccon photograph. However, checking the news just now it appears that experts don't believe it is Madeleine, so uploading it would not be worthwhile for now. Unless this development/part of the 'story' is important enough to be documented in the article? Thank you for your suggestions, best wishes, Paul S UK 15:23, 26 September 2007 (UTC) I wonder if you could get an expert on linguistics to have a look at this. As I have said on the talk page, I suspect it's a load of old. Cheers - Rothorpe 20:04, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Wow? deletion abuserwhy in the world would you delete the table in Thomas R. Grover Middle School it was very helpful to visual learners and it is basically a quick summary of the preceding paragraph. dont abuse omg --12.33.122.73 19:47, 30 September 2007 (UTC) write back on discussion page for it
VISUAL LEARNERS..... and plus why would somone want to go and read the whole thing when they could just take a quick peek at it. O yea.. you know text books right?? they make pictures to give a big picture of what the whole thing is focusing on and how it looks.--Umm killer 00:29, 1 October 2007 (UTC) Also, are u from grover???
but y... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Umm killer (talk • contribs) 00:52, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Like my Topic?I made a topic in Thomas R. Grover Middle School titled school clubs Like it? plzz reply back to my uder talk thingy--Umm killer 01:28, 1 October 2007 (UTC) "CRY" this guy named alshon or something made my topic 10 time smaller and less detailed...--Umm killer 01:30, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
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