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User talk:Jondel/Archive2Hi Jondel Thank you for the reply on the administrator page regarding vandalism. If you are keeping an eye on the page I mentioned it should calm down now as it is past 2am in the UK However I imagine that the repeated vandalism will carry on tomorrow. The users carrying out the vandalism dont have talk pages just as I dont. Ah well ... cheers anyway.195.92.168.164 02:39, 9 November 2005 (UTC) Hi Jondel: You are the only hispanic here other than me I am on a mission to get the article on Paul Bouche undeleted. I will post here a copy of the revised article that was uploades this year (I kept a copy) non hispanics have no idea about who is notable or not for us. Please help in this campaign. By the way the links that they are looking for with proof of his emmy award etc are in the new article that was rammed of by Ducharris. Perhaps with your intercesion (being that you are hispanic and know about the show and host even thought you appear to be in Japan might get some sence into these people's minds. All the best, Rene Lake. Here is the article... Paul Bouche is a Television Producer & Entertainer. Best known as the creator and host of the popular television show "A Oscuras Pero Encendidos". Paul launched “A Oscuras Pero Encendidos” in 1995 as the first Late Night Show specifically designed for the US Hispanic Market. After starting as a local Miami production, in 1998 Galavision (Univision’s cable network) signed a distribution deal to carry the program via cable TV to national Hispanic audiences in the United States. Based on the results in Galavision in June 2000 the Telemundo Network decided to sign up the show for National open air TV broadcast in America and Puerto Rico. Lead by Paul “A Oscuras Pero Encendidos”, spent 6 years on the air and generated over 1100 hours of entertainment content for Hispanics in America. http://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/stories/1997/03/03/newscolumn4.html Since 1988, Paul garnered experience in the United States working in different production capacities in companies like: NBC, ABC and MTV. He founded his production company Astracanada Productions in 1995. To date Paul has created, developed and produced more than 1.500 hours of television including programs in English and Spanish and for different channels in Latin America and the United States like Telemundo, Galavision, America TV, Family Channel, the USA Broadcasting, and “Casa Club TV”. Due to his successes and contributions to the world of the Spanish language entertainment, the TV industry has recognized Paul, receiving an EMMY Award from the National Academy Of Television Arts and Sciences (NATAS) for his outstanding television work in 1997. http://suncoast.emmyonline.org/emmy/97emwin.htm Paul also has entertained national Hispanic Audiences through Radio Broadcasting. In 2000 he launched the popular program "Sobre Ruedas" for WQBA 1140AM, a Univision Radio station in the city of Miami. In September of 2001 Paul joined forces with Radio Unica Network to create, launch and host the national morning drive show "Arriba Con Paul". This 4-hour comedic morning show was broadcasted through a network of over 40 radio stations reaching 80% of the national Hispanic population. Since 1989 Paul has produced and hosted over 4,000 hours of entertainment talk radio. http://www.radionotas.com/Newdev/htmlfiles/news02/oct_02/31_miami.htm Currently, Paul Bouche and Astracanada Productions are developing new TV & radio formats and working on their most ambitious television production yet “La Boca Loca de Paul” in association with Zeal Television in London England.
1) Proposal is okay with me. While working on the article, I realized that a straight translation isn't going to work anyway. The Japanese article is well-written, but there's a lot of things that need explanation for the average English reader. Let's merge first, and I'll try to gradually improve the article. I'll be looking for good references that will help me. 2) Yup - read your email. Actually, I have a few friends who used to study at Denpa - I think they're younger than you, so you probably won't know them. Natsukashii namae wo kikunotte iicchane! 3)This is a hard question, because I never really chose to become a translator - I was desperately looking for a job, and the in-house translation job I do now was the first one I managed to get (damn recession!). I think the standard course for an English-Japanese translator is to start working as an in-house translator for a company, or study at a translator/interpreter school (eg. Inter School). If you're really good or can translate rare languages (which is what I'm assuming), you might have better luck taking trials for various translation agencies. At least in Sendai, the Inter Group is the largest translation agency. Other sources for work are immigration and the police, but in Sendai they often get their translators through various translation/interpretation agencies. A large bookstore should have some books or magazines from ALC (alc.co.jp) which usually has lists of various agencies. Praying for good luck - honestly, it's sometimes really hard to find freelance work in Sendai, which is quite small compared to Tokyo! 4)Yoroshiku! Osewa ni narimasu! Atsi Otani 07:53, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
Hi Jondel, you said hi to me, so I thought I'd return the favor Maybe you could make an article about something of your interests --Perfection 03:05, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
But those links don't lead to articles... --Perfection 04:05, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Event BrokerHello! I've been doing some research but I haven't found an exact word to translate 'event broker'. Actually, it is very possible that such word or phrase doesn't exist. I would describe it (in Spanish) as a 'canal de comunicación para eventos'. I'll keep searching though and I'll let you know as soon as I get new information. Good luck! --Rmflorencia 23:58, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
VandalismWhy are messages on vandalism of web pages directed against me for no apparent reason? Dear 165.21.154.12 1)I'm sorry if I offended you. You have to a bit more specific. What page? Which vandalism? 2)Pls also understand that we can't distinguish vandals from users who choose anonymous ip addresses. You have to be one or the other. No in between. Other people, hackers and vandals could use the same address. As I see your other messages , other vandals have already abused your ip address. We have to be vigilant with wikipedia pages since this is an open source encyclopedia which many user will rely on for info and vandals will abuse . Couldn't you create a user account? Is it going to hurt? Best regards,--Jondel 00:16, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC) Putting a link herePutting this link here will undoubtably attract Slrubenstein and Sam Spade and company to the link destination. Nethertheless, would you like to comment? Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress/CheeseDreams controversy#CheeseDreams
Where did CheeseDreams originate? I love them. Do they signify anti-Freud? Jeffrey Newman 00:20, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC) Article LicensingHi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:
OR
Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk) RequestCould you take a look at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/CheeseDreams You can comment on the talk page, or in "evidence" CheeseDreams 00:55, 11 December 2004 Edgar CayceI read your dicussion on the Edgar Cayce page. I just wanted to warn you to be careful about posting Cayce ideas on separate pages like Karma. You may be well aware of this, but cayce would often make slight changes to the ideas of things he gave names. for example, the traditional idea of karma would not apply to what cayce said. The main idea is there, but cayce would make "alterations". Just be careful not to confuse the differences, you may end of misrepresenting an aspect of something if you are not careful. They can be very hard to spot! As a Cayce fan, i also have to bee very careful. Brendan Knight,
The Edgar Cayce on Karma article originally was part of the Karma page but started to get longer and longer. For me the Karma needs to be seperate. It was part of the Karma page with a section on Cayce's interpretation of Karma. Actually a western interpretation of Karma. I felt that Cayce 's interpretation was more relevant since it included Christian views and context. The Karma page at that time tended to be Hinduistic and academic. Cayce 's explanation on reincarnation and karma were a revelation and had a very big impact on me(I am very Chrisitian -oriented). The Cayce interpretation is very relevant for non-Hindu people.
Karma Jondel, I quoted the satguru for citation purposes. He didn't say anything new; that has been said for thousands of years. Ok Raj2004 13:11, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Peace be with you, my peace I give to you, a peace the world can not give. --J.C. John--Jondel 08:57, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Brendan Replies: Jesus, in The Essene Gospal of Peace Book One explained why his commandments were diffrent than that of Moses. In short, he said that Moses only gave the people what they might understand and that he gave them ideas that might make them feel good about themselves and thus hemp them progress. Dropping a huge bomb was not what he wanted to do, but rather help the people. Jesus also said that he was doing the same, and that he would only tell them what might help them. I believe the past idea of karma is one that most of us have grown out of, and one that could be expanded on and explained in a more beneficial way. I think that Edgar Cayce explained it in a very good way! There is much indication that Cayce also used the same teaching method, but on a much more individual level. For example, i can remember once Cayce said that karma was something that had to be paid to one self, another time he said karma was something that had to be paid to ones god, and many other times, he said that karma was not paid, and the "mental filter" of ones self only had to be changed. I believe he is talking about the same thing each and every time. Different people, different needs. I can only imagine how much the page was vandalized. I put the Edgar Cayce page on my watch list to make sure i catch when people vandalize it. I am not sure you know, but i just expand a number of sections on the Cayce page. I had to remove inappropriate remarks about cayce from a number of times. People just dont seem to understand that the page is about Cayce, not them, not me! The page is not a debate! It is about CAYCE! Ah well. I just saw "The Innkeepers Story" a drama on the story of the birth of Christ as portrayed by Edgar Cayce. It was very good. Have you seen it? Brendan peace be with you Knightt 14:51, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC) ============I just read the article on Karma. Very well done. The only thing i caught was the reference of cause and effect. Did cayce say they were the same thing? I was under the impression that cause and effect was... lets say.... hitting a board, and the other end flying up. This would be cause and effect but has nothing to do with karma. It may be different from what Cayce says as i cant remember if this was a cayce reference! Other than that, very nice peace of work. You may want to take a look at the Edgar Cayce discussion board. I am having problems with inappropriate comments and have just opened it up for other peoples points of view. What do you know about Quakers? Brendan
Karma I quoted the satguru because I need a source for citation purposes. He didn't say anything new. Raj2004 13:20, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC) I am not advertising; I never heard of him until six months ago. That's my style of writing. I just feel it is a good way to attribute a source. I am not going to change my style of writing. If you want to instead write, cited from Dancing with Siva, by Satguru... in the external references, go ahead change it and leave the content as it is. that's fine. Raj2004 20:16, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC) ==I agree to multi-license all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
Hello, you might be interested in helping flesh-out the Wikipedia:Tambayan Philippines page, so that we can centralize our efforts in improving Philippine-related articles. :) —seav 00:07, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC) Jondel, I took a look a the official website of the Latin Union and it says that the Philippines is an official member. If it says it is, then it is. However, the sight also says that Spanish is the official language. As of 1987, it wasn't. So perhaps the Philippines joined the Latin Union prior to 1987? --Chris 17:39, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Mi Ulimo AdiosHi Jondel, It's going to be moved to Wikisource, but it's not there at the moment. If you wish, you can place a link to the poem from the main page. In fact, I will do so myself. You should see a link to the subarticle in a few minutes. I would assume all links to that article will either redirect to the new Wikisource article, or you will know when the link turns red. --Deathphoenix 01:02, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Pearle and Lapu-lapuIn case you didn't catch the discussion elsewhere, it turns out a small programming error was causing Pearle to delete interwiki links from all articles she edited. Thanks for catching that when you did; it prevented further damage and an even messier cleanup. All affected articles have since been repaired. -- Beland 20:49, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
What are you doing? All of the votes were to delete, not to move to a new name. RickK 09:55, Mar 20, 2005 (UTC)
Your browser is modifying accented lettersYour latest edits to List of false friends and Wikipedia:Community Portal altered some accented letters [1]. You must have modified your browser today, because your edits from yesterday on that same page weren't doing this. -- Curps 12:02, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Vandalism in SpanishNo, I don't have an account there. My only accounts are on en, commons, and wikinews. CryptoDerk 03:23, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)
ThanksHi Jondel. Thanks for supporting my adminship. -- Sundar (talk · contribs) 09:10, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)
I assure you that I will not abuse my previleges. -- Sundar (talk · contribs) 09:22, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC) Thanks for your support on my admin vote. Helpful Dave 14:02, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Yet another, Jondel: thanks for supporting my RFA with your vote! Wish I could come to Tokyo and meet you at the Peruvian restaurant (is there really a good one there? I love Peruvian food! Antandrus 01:00, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Thank you!Thank you for supporting my nomination on RfA, it failed because of Wikipedia's minority rule system, although I thought 21/8 support was sufficient. It was also cut short by 12 hours. But your vote of confidence is greatly appreciated, now let's build an encyclopedia! --Bjarki 14:03, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC) CaucusSomeone with the same handle as yours posted to my Talk in caucus; is that you? I am asking members who wish to caucus to send an email to another member of the caucus, and post their handles in the appropriate place. This is only so we know who we are speaking with -- we don't ask for Real Names, but we do like to see faces. — Xiong熊talk 21:24, 2005 Apr 15 (UTC)
Ooops I forgot to send an e-mail--Jondel 08:12, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC) I read your comments on my talk page. I see you also posted it at Talk:University of Santo Tomas, so we'll have to see what the disputing users have to say about it. I don't really have an opinion... I know very little about the facts of the dispute. -- Curps 06:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I am considering filing an RFC on RickK relating to his abuse of deletion and undeletion policies. As you have tried and failed to resolve this dispute with him, I am requesting that you read my current draft (note that the current debate is still ongoing, and the situation there may change) and let me know whether you'd certify the basis for the dispute. Thanks. --SPUI (talk) 22:21, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
No offense, but I have already set up the RFC draft, and I think I've gotten all the evidence there in the proper format - the best thing you could probably do (once it's active) is to certify it, and then add brief comments when you sign. I think comments like those on User:Jondel/RFCRickk would go on the talk page of the RFC. --SPUI (talk) 11:52, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC) Basically, my question is: if I post the RFC, will you add your name to it within two days? If so, I will post it. --SPUI (talk) 21:36, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi, only arbitrators can vote on the decision pages I'm afraid, but you are welcome to add any comments or suggestions to the talk page. Regards -- sannse (talk) 13:14, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
AwardYou are hereby awarded the The General Alexander Haig Medal of Honor. Salute! — Xiong熊talk* 14:57, 2005 May 7 (UTC)
RickK RFCThis is my first RFC too, and I'm figuring it out as I go. It appears to me that you can add a short summary of anything extra you want to add where you signed to certify the basis - the outside views are for those who weren't involved. Maybe add some to the summary, though the best place might be on the talk page. I'm not really sure. --SPUI (talk) 00:21, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
PELICAN SHIT --SPUI (talk) 07:56, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC) XiongHi there! Because the RFC about Xiong seemed to deal mainly on his disagreements with Netoholic, I thought it best to start a new RFC to see if people have comments on Xiong's behavior that do not relate to Netoholic. Please give your thoughts and/or opinion on that at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Xiong. Radiant_* 08:26, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)
Hasta la Victoria Siempre!I appreciate your vote and encouraging words. :) Happy May Day! Yours, El_C 00:53, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
My RFAThank you for your comments on my RFA. Although the voting period just ended with a 14-8-2 vote, I will admit once and for all that I used it more as an evaluation of myself. Being promoted would have been a plus. I was more interested in who voted, when they voted, who would change their votes and when, and the comments I would receive. Hopefully I will correct the main weakness that was raised by those who voted oppose -- that I was too eager to put articles on VFD. Also, I will try to interact more with those Wikipedians who did not vote at all. As for next month, I don't know if I will nominate myself again. I might not think about it until somebody else puts me up there on RFA at a later date. Eventually, I see myself as an admin, especially as the number of articles and users continues to grow. Thanks again and good luck at improving this vast archive of free knowledge. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 09:15, 3 May 2005 (UTC) Hello Jondel Here's an invitation to visit WP:JCOTW, Japan-related collaboration of the week. Your vote, nomination and comments are welcome. Hope to see you there! --Aphaea* 04:50, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
Jondel: An answer to your question posted on the Talk:Episcopal Church in the United States of America page. I would post on that page, but I am a Catholic scholar, so I generally avoid contributing to articles on churches outside my area of expertise. However, the basic answers are: "What is the difference? I know that Episcopalians don't follow the Pope."
"What else? Do E. believe in the Holy Trinity?"
"Do they celebrate Mass or have a Holy Eucharist?"
"Is there a stress on a particular doctrine, eg. Baptists with baptism, Pentecostals with gifts of the Holy Spirit, etc."
"Do the preachers, reverrends, etc. have to be celibate?" "Can woment be pastors, reverrends, etc."
"Is there an official Episcopalian stand on abortion, cloning?"
Hope that helps. If I can answer any other questions, let me know. Essjay 04:04, May 9, 2005 (UTC)
No, I'm a different Sparky. I'm between Japan and California. Now in Santa Monica. - Sparky 16:06, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
YogaRe: Is Yoga wrong according to Christian doctrine? "If for example I visualize or concentrate on an energy center (chakra) for a certain period everyday, is this wrong according to Christan doctrine? Thanks." --Jondel 08:31, 13 May 2005 (UTC) Jondel: I'm sure there are Christians out there that would say yes, that it's pagan or Satanist or something else, but I think you're safe doing yoga and meditating. I personally am somewhat of a heretic, so I wouldn't object, although when Benedict XVI was still Cardinal Ratzinger he did say that Buddhism was an "autoerotic spirituality" that offered "transcendence without imposing concrete religious obligations." I guess the important question would be this: "What are you trying to achieve with yoga?" If you're seeking relaxation and a clearer mind, then you're in no more danger of running afoul of the Church than you would be by doing breathing exercises. If your intention is to achieve transcendence or be released from the cycle of rebirth, then you may have problems, and would have to be immediately burned at the stake for heresy. (Just joking...) For the most part, I don't think you'll run afoul of Christian doctrine by practicing yoga. I'm not an expert on Buddhist-Christian relations, but a good friend of mine is, and I've fired off an email to him asking just this question. When I get a response, I'll post it here. Essjay 04:05, May 14, 2005 (UTC) Yoga, Version 2.0RE: RE: Is Yoga wrong according to Christian doctrine? "Thanks for your response. However, how far can this go? Would a book on Rajah Yoga(Patanjali)be able to recieve a Nihil obstat/Imprimatur? One good reason to practise mediation is to develop sustained attention, like playing tennis. I 've researched the internet, but the Catholic Church doesn't seem to welcome or be open to it. Although similar practises are done by Christian mystics, achieving an alternate (higher)state of consciousness." --Jondel 04:13, 16 May 2005 (UTC) Jondel: From the one who was, who is, and who is to come, grace, light and peace be with you always. (It's a Catholic thing...) I saw your response to my response to your question. (More importantly: Who's on first?) 1) I don't think a book on Rajah Yoga (Patanjali) would benefit from the Nihil obstat/Imprimatur, as from what I read on the Patanjali page, it is considered Hindu scripture. Nihil obstat/Imprimatur regard Catholic doctrine; they certify that there are no moral or doctrinal errors (acccording to Catholic teaching) and that the Church has given permission for the work to be published. However, the designations are most common on theological texts of importance to Catholics. (I'm certian that there are others on WP who would debate me on this topic.) Certainly, any text can request the imprimatur/nihil obstat. The competent authority (bishop, vicar-general, pope, whomever) to whom the request is made would then investigate and make a decision on whether or not to grant imprimatur/nihil obstat; I really can't speculate on what that authority might decide. I suppose that the author/publisher of a text on Rajah Yoga could request the imprimatur/nihil obstat, and if the text was found to be free of moral and doctrinal error, the request would be granted, but I don't see why the author/publilsher would want one, as most Catholics today wouldn't recognize the meaning of the imprimatur/nihil obstat. 2) I certainly agree with you that practicing yoga is a great way to develop sustained attention, and I don't think the Church would discourage the practice for this reason. (Then again, I'm a heretic, so, what do I know...) I think that not finding much information on yoga and Catholicism on the intertnet is actually a good sign; if the Church was against it, they wouldn't be shy about saying so. I suppose the core question is this: What do you mean by "yoga." From what I know of yoga, it is a system which may easily be integrated with the practitioner's established religious affiliation, much like meditation. If my understanding is correct, then there is nothing about yoga that the Church would oppose. Yoga is no more a threat to Catholicism than basketball. (Although in some areas, basketball may be considered a religion...) There is no threat that there will be an uprising of priests who insist on the congregation forgoing kneeling and instead assuming the lotus position. If "yoga" refers to the excercise classes being taught at the YMCA, I don't think the Church has any reason to disapprove. (Apparently, these classes focus on "Hatha yoga.") Ditto for pilates classes. However, if "yoga" refers to a spiritual or quasi-spiritual system by which the practitioner makes contact with any metaphysical entity other than the Trinity, then I believe the Church would oppose Catholics practicing it. If the practitioner of yoga is encouraged to utilize yoga in lieu of the established sacraments of the Church, then I believe the Church would oppose Catholics practicing it. If yoga practitioners are instructed that they can gain salvation by their practice, then I believe the Church would oppose Catholics practicing it. (My understanding is that none of the above are true.) In the simplist terms: If yoga is, as I believe it to be, a system that can be incorporated with the practitioner's existing Catholicism without encouraging the practitioner to commit heresy, apostacy, or schism, then I think the Church would accept it. I think it is more likely that the Church, like myself, does not really know what the practice of yoga involves, and therefore the Church does not really have a position on yoga. I support the establishment of a Pontifical Council on Yoga and Catholicism, and I will make sure to suggest it to Benedict XVI if the opportunity arises. As for me personally, I'm already a heretic, so I support the practice of yoga by anyone who wants to practice it, Catholic or not. I hope this helps, and do excuse my attempts at humor if any were offensive. I look forward to hearing back from you. Essjay Yoga, Version 2.1Jondel: I was considering further your question about the Church and yoga, and it occurred to me that Nostra Ætatethe Declaration on the Relation of the Church with Non-Christian Religions of the Second Vatican Council might be of additional help to you. I look forward to hearing back from you soon.
Nose-picking photoSure, use the photo, but please provide me with a link to it, and please site where you got it. Thanks! --[[User:JonMoore|—JonMoore 20:24, 29 May 2006 (UTC)]] 18:48, 17 May 2005 (UTC) Theresia UnnoHeya, just to let you know, I'll hop on that research bit for that as soon as (working on writing that Sakakibara article I've been blowing off for the longest time). Saw a couple of pages on Goo based on Unno's romaji name, so that might come in help as well. Heh. I thought I was the only Hispanic living in Japan when I was there from 96-99 (not really, I was with the Navy at the time, in Yokosuka). God, I miss the place. Lucky you. ^_^ --Mitsukai 13:23, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
Dropping by to say "HI"Hey, Jondel. Just wanted to say that. I read some of those articles that you work on and they're great. Thanks for the tips you gave me. Jute 00:14, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
AdminshipThanks for supporting my adminship Jodel! Just write me a line if you meet a troll, and I'll help you out.--Wiglaf 21:14, 25 May 2005 (UTC) An or AI would say, "a historical monument", it seems that google does agrees with me [4] vs. [5]. This case is probably marginal and both are in use. The contrary argument must say that "historical" is pronounced more like "an istorical" much the same way "an onorable" has a silent "h". I, however, pronounce the h and so does dictionary.com. Out of curiosity where is this a concern? Si, hablo poco espanol. Voy a Tener mi examen final, en esa clase, manana (sin acentos). BrokenSegue 01:15, 26 May 2005 (UTC) Solo he visto el resumen (edit summary) de tus redactiones en Star Wars. I just saw the comment in you corrections to Star Wars. I work in a publications company here in Japan. Gotta be careful with the grammar. Tenga buena suerte en tus examenes! (sin diacriticos/acentos tambien ). Would you believe I studied Spanish here in Japan? --Jondel 01:21, 26 May 2005 (UTC) requestI am sorry I could not help you out with the request. I think it was both an illness and my wikistress that was giving me a splitting headache as soon as I looked at the intro page. I simply had to take a break from Wikipedia for a few days. I was pleased to see that someone else took care of it anyway. Cheers,--Wiglaf 20:31, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
Hi JondelHello Jondel and thank you for your warm welcome. Btw, I'm trying to do something with WikiProject Prodigies, so if you are interested, you can join. Bestestestest :) regards, --Master Psychologist
My RfAI can understand that you want to wait and see what my edits are like, as you don't know me very well (or at all). However, i'm disappointed you voted oppose. I see oppose as a negative, as if i've done something to upset or annoy you, and it doesn't make sense that you oppose for wanting to see how I am as a user first. I can understand your not supporting fully, but I would have hoped that you might of given me a "benefit of the doubt" neutral instead. Hedley 01:29, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your supportThank you for voting on my RFA. Have some pie! I was pleasantly surprised by the sheer number of supporters (including several people that usually disagree with my opinion). I shall do my best with the proverbial mop. Yours, Radiant_>|< 08:07, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC) NonsensepediaThat nonsepedia section of the Wikipedia:sandbox was so funny! I think we should include it into BJAODN; or we could submit it to the comedy wikicity. --SuperDude 05:11, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
When you reply to other users, don't add to your own talk page, add to other Wikipedians' talk pages. An also, that humor you put on the sandbox just got submitted to Wikicomedy. --SuperDude 05:20, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC) BlockingHi Jondel, I am afraid I can only block people according to this policy description Wikipedia:Blocking_policy.--Wiglaf 06:52, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC) Ok.--Jondel 07:00, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC) VandalHey Jondel: I still have your page on my watchlist from the old "yoga discussion" and I caught vandalism on your user page earlier and reverted it. I hope you don't mind. Essjay · talk 21:50, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)
External link to nonsensepediaI like the idea of having an external link to your transwikied prank from the Wikipedia sandbox the other day! --SuperDude 23:45, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Be a comedian; anytime, anywhere, in anyway for anyreason to anyone!Are you a good comedian? You can help me do some contributions on Wikicomedy! Nobody but me seems to have any material to add to Wikicomedy. Will you and some other Wikipedians use Wikicomedy and make it halarious? I am counting on you because of that one prankish contribution you made to the sandbox which got submitted to Wikicomedy! --SuperDude 03:41, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC) Reply to comedy projectThat nosepicking law page was funny! Also, you should cast some votes on the ballot for ASCII COWS since it has been transwikied to Wikicomedy! I would vote it for a delete since Wikipedia is not as approprate for it as Wikicomedy is. Thank you for your supportHi! thank you for your support for my admin candidacy. I have now been promoted—I hope that you will always feel that I am a responsible administrator. JeremyA 05:12, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Cat photo from NonsensepediaIs that your cat that is in that lazy cat photo? or is it a photo from another source? --SuperDude 18:24, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC) lots of edits, not an adminHi - I made a list of users who've been around long enough to have made lots of edits but aren't admins. If you're at all interested in becoming an admin, can you please add an '*' immediately before your name in this list? I've suggested folks nominating someone might want to puruse this list, although there is certainly no guarantee anyone will ever look at it. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 14:28, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC) Comedy musicThere is a list of comedy songs That only I have added anything to so far; do you know of any comedy or parody song besides ones that are already on the list that you can add on to? "Weird Al" Yankovic is a well-known song parodist. --SuperDude 05:07, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC) Compensation (essay) cleanup?I noticed that you did quite a bit of cleanup on the above article, around September last year. Does it still need the cleanup tag? Please let me know if you are planning to do more work on it, or what other work you think it might need. JesseW 23:46, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
ThanksHi Jondel. I just wanted to say thanks for your help with the San Juan De Los Morros page. I love to translate but sometimes still miss a few things. Translating helps me strenthen my writing abilites in other other languages, especially Spanish. I wasn't sure if I could just jump in and translate but I guess I can. I will work on other translations in Spanish, as well as Italian and German. :) Mseames 21:42, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC) belated thanksThanks for your support of my RFA almost a month ago! Unfortunately, a family situation arose suddenly at that time that took a lot of my time and energy. Things are getting a little more normal now so I hope to be a more active admin. Regards, FreplySpang (talk) 23:23, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC) RfAI'm not sure if you said you would support me in one month during my last RfA, but after withdrawing from my last RfA due to a dispute with a user, i've been nominated. If you want to express a vote you can at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Hedley 2. Hedley 11:03, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC) DrZoidberg for admin!DrZoidberg has been nominated for Administrator!! Please feel free to vote on this matter. DrZoidberg 15:57, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
EssjayThanks for voting for me; I hope I make it! Essjay or some derivative of it seems to be a pretty popular username around here; I got an email two weeks ago from Essjay-R who wanted me to know he wasn't an imposter! -- Essjay · Talk 07:41, July 14, 2005 (UTC) Translation help neededHi Jondel! Could you help me figure out the Japanese name for Pacific krill? I've found this Japanese site, from which I have made some educated guesses. However, as I do not know any Japanese at all, it would be really good if you could correct my blundering around at Pacific krill... Thanks! Lupo 09:38, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Now, simple pattern matching reveals ツノナシオキアミ（オキアミ目) that the word "krill" (オキアミ) occurs twice in that heading. Which one is the name now, and what does the first one mean? Is my translation of "eye krill" for the thing in parentheses ok? And what's the translation of the first bit? I mean, this is a commercial site; one or the other might be a brand name, not the species name! Lupo 07:01, July 15, 2005 (UTC) I should have looked at the history of the krill page! オキアミ目 (okiamime)is Euphasiacea but is often mentioned together with Eupausia pacifica.
ツナ is ussually 'Tuna' or rope or fiber(綱). I'll research tsuna nashi next.--Jondel 07:49, 15 July 2005 (UTC) I can't seem to find tsuna nashi.--Jondel 07:58, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
There are many terms that Japanese feel should use the Japanese name. For example, I feel that the Japanese here will give the name isada krill instead of Pacific krill. BTW another tsuna could be 砂 (sand) a gizzard contains stones (sand) to act as teeth . But there is still no confirmation. --Jondel 09:04, 15 July 2005 (UTC) Thanks Thanks for voting in my RfA; I promise I'll wield my sacred mop with care. If you ever need me for anything, you know where to find me. Thanks again! -- Essjay · Talk 15:24, July 20, 2005 (UTC) Who's RFAThank you for your vote of support. ∞Who?¿? 03:02, 23 July 2005 (UTC) Vandalism ConcernHi Jondel, The De La Salle - College of Saint Benilde wiki has been vandalized with profanity as well as links to adult websites, though I have already restored the last unadulterated version. I am really not sure where to forward complaints against vandalism by unregistered users. You were the one who sent me a welcome message (and incidentally, you are a fellow LSGH alumni too) so I decided to ask advice from you. I am wondering what would be the best thing to deal with this - is it possible to ban those ip addresses from posting/editing wikis? Thanks a lot for you help! Mark 14:08, 24 July 2005 (UTC) Templates for WikicitiesI created some templates for Wikicities to indicate that some Wikipedians also have an account on Wikicities and vice versa, will you track down some common Wiki users for template implementation? --SuperDude 00:04, 28 July 2005 (UTC) Sandbox gnome - WhoCongrats on your adminship!! Let us say a kid wants to play in sandbox but is polite and does not break any rules. I expect the kid to grow up eventually in the mean time, he spends his time in almost entirely in the Sandbox. However he went to far and accidentally destroyed part of it. He doesn't contribute anything though and so the anti-fun bullies (trolls) totally ban him forever from the premises. Is this Ok? Could I ask your comment? --Jondel 00:48, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
(To Who:)You thanked me and I assumed you won. Anyway , Zoidberg is blocked and I'm concerned . Thanks anyway.--Jondel 01:10, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Sandbox
Hi Jondel, I am sorry that you sympathize with DrZoidberg, but if we consider the sandbox metaphor, a child who destroys the sandbox again and again so other children can't play should be forbidden to use it by the caretaker. He was warned.--Wiglaf 21:54, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
I nominated you for RfAHoy, Jondel! Ninominate kita para maging Adminstrator ka. Sa tingin ko, kailangang Pinoy na Administrator dito sa Wikipedia. I think you and seav are fit for the job. So please accept. :-) Heto ang link: Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Jondel --Chris 02:20, 30 July 2005 (UTC) Thank you for your vote of confidence.--Jondel 15:38, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
Swami RobertoSorry, no hablo espanol. Andries 11:22, 30 July 2005 (UTC) VoteYou're welcome!--Wiglaf 21:13, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
Nang NakI've had it on my to do list, but haven't actually done anything with it. Looks like you made a pretty good start. I've added it to the list of thai related articles as it will get better visibility from the other people working on Thai articles there. I'm not really into Buddhism in any real sense I'm afraid, but we do have a shrine at home. — KayEss | talk 04:35, 31 July 2005 (UTC) AdministratorshipSaw your message in my talk page. I don't think you have a lot to worry about, I think you'll do fine. I've dealt with disputes before in other mediums like message boards, and it's not a big deal. Plus, it'll be easier for you to deal with vandals. --Chris 03:38, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
ThanksThank you for your vote of support on my recent RfA. I was quite surprised by the amount of support I received, and wish to extend my thanks to you for taking the time to support my nomination for adminship. -- Longhair | Talk 12:20, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
Friendly ChatHell son, your dedication to the Wiki project is a good indication that you will make a great administrator. I checked you out and I must say that I'm very impressed. I know that you will make it and remember always keep "cool" under fire. At ease Tony the Marine 05:18, August 2, 2005 (UTC)
Semper fi! Muchas gracias for your vote of confidence. Wow your wikipage is interesting. So, you are from Puerto Rico. Ojala , Me gustaria desarrollar mi espanyol. Yo fue tambien a Espanya, Mexico, Venezuela y Panama. Mexico parece mucho a filipinas. Venezuela parece mas a Europa. El espanyol es popular pero no se habla en filipinas. Escribo o traduciendo muchos articulos a wikipedia de espanyol. iConoces que Dayana Torres(puertoriquenya representativa a Miss Universe) vino a Filipinas? --Jondel 07:18, 2 August 2005 (UTC) Thank you!Thank you for your support on my RfA! When I submitted it, I was unsure of how I'd do, but the support was great. I promise that I won't do anything too stupid with the trust you've given me. humblefool®Deletion Reform 19:31, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
You're welcomeYou're very welcome. You deserved it, and I'm sure you'll get the sacred mop! -- Essjay · Talk 06:17, August 3, 2005 (UTC) Your RfAYou're quite welcome. BTW, we're having a cool summer. >_< It could be worse, though. See ya, --Merovingian (t) (c) 07:03, August 3, 2005 (UTC) you are most welcome. re toilet paper, I know, don't ask :\ you have to cherish the recognition you get, especially from wikicelebrities dab (ᛏ) 12:34, 4 August 2005 (UTC) Friendly Chat
kmccoy's RFAHey, Jondel, Thanks for your support on my RFA. :) Also, that's an awfully intimidating cat on your user page. Is he yours? You should tag that image. :) kmccoy (talk) 23:07, 4 August 2005 (UTC) CongratulationsYou're an admin, and with a unanimous vote at that! You may wish to take a look at User:UninvitedCompany/Advice to new admins. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 00:26, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
Semper fi!Thank you,
RE: Late Reply
ThanksHoy Jondel - kakikita ko lang yung Barnstar award na iniligay mo doon sa aking user page. Naku, sikat na 'ko, ah! ;-P That was nice of you ... Maraming salamat sa iyo, dakal a salamat keka, diyos mabalos saimo, damo nga salamat ha imo, agyamanak unay kenka, dakel a salamat ed sika, magsukul tuud kaymu, daghang salamat kanimo, mabbalo, abo gid nga saeamat kimo, etc. etc. :-D --Chris 10:49, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
Re: RFAI have received your acknowledgement and you are welcome. As I also plan to become an administrator here sometime soon, you may nominate me if you would like to.--Jusjih 07:03, 12 August 2005 (UTC) Spanish Translation of the Week
You showed support for Spanish Translation of the Week. This week Gestalt therapy was chosen to be translated from es:Terapia gestáltica. Hope you can help.
Malolos CityHi Jondel, just wondering, why are did you Wikilink some of the barangays in Malolos City. Most of them are red links, and none of the blue links refer to the barangays. Coffee 10:27, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
English to Spanish translationsI like translating from English to Spanish just fine, it's just that Spanish is my second language and it takes alot longer and the outcome is not as good. If there is an article you have in mind, I could give it a shot...Anyway, thanks for the welcome and por cierto, un saludo a ti también ;)--Orgullomoore 03:50, 16 August 2005 (UTC) Scratch/JennetThey both vandalize my user page in the same way, and both have the same stuff on their user page about smug people and a superiority complex. It's not beyond a reasonable doubt but it's not really that sockpuppetry that's a problem, but the vandalism. --SPUI (talk) 08:54, 19 August 2005 (UTC) Let me keep the image!In the sandbox, let the image stay, please! Adamwankenobi 05:43, 22 August 2005 (UTC) OK. No profanity, porno, indecent images or anything suggesting the same please. It's just a sandbox.--Jondel 05:49, 22 August 2005 (UTC) Latin & CapiznonNo, I don't speak Latin. I don't have much desire to learn languages that are no longer spoken. heh. BTW - Taga-Capiz ka, indi bala? Can you tell me how different and similar Capiznon is to the Hiligaynon of Iloilo? --Chris S. 07:45, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Dakota FanningI was serious, though, about what I put on Dakota Fanning in the sandbox. The unencyclopedia is hilarious, though! Adamwankenobi 01:26, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
Hinduism In the PhilippinesWhy don't you start Hinduism in the Philippines? --Dangerous-Boy
ThanksMy turn to be thanking you: Salamat sa pagboboto sa akin. :) Coffee 08:51, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
PasrichaHey, I just wanted to verify the spellin of the name. It can be put back now. --Noypi380 05:56, 26 August 2005 (UTC) You accuse me of copying and pasting. Where is your evidence? Which site did I allegedly steal those two paragraphs? Either you directly show where I copied and pasted from or you have no right to accuse anyone of plagarism.--Secret Agent Man 03:04, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the welcomeThank you, sir, for the welcome... Rather kind of you to notice that some random person made a minor change and decide to give them a nice welcome to the wonderful Wiki... :) Pikhq 04:59, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
HeyI made a suggestion in Talk:2005 Philippine electoral crisis. Being an admin, I hope you can give us some expert advice. --Noypi380 08:43, 7 September 2005 (UTC) Do you have any comment about Wikicomedy? I am the only one who left a comment in the comment field, not to menton, I was one who made that article. Fell free to express your opinion about Wikicomedy in that field. I think we should put some Wikipedians up for RfC in spite of Wikicomedy. I have also been the biggest contributor to Wikicomedy --SuperDude 23:47, 11 September 2005 (UTC) Too speedy?I don't understand how the article for HowWasTheShow.com (which I nominated for AfD and you quickly speedied with edit summary non-notable, nonsense) qualifies for speedy deletion. I'm all for deleting useless articles, but they should be deleted by process! Right? — brighterorange (talk) 02:06, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
I got your e-mail君の電子メールが来た。俺は、今日本語を勉強しない。でも、高校学生の時、二年間に（１９９６年から１９９８年まで）勉強したよ。今、ロシア語を勉強する。 And no, I am not studying to be a translator. I plan on getting Ph.D. in linguistics (sana nga) in the end. As for the Latin documents - hindi ko alam kung may mga ganoon. Pero, marami ang document sa wikang Kastila. Ito ba ang gusto mo? --Chris S. 04:34, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
ThanksThanks again, :) --Noypi380 06:44, 15 September 2005 (UTC) Invalid Speedy deletionI undeleted Filth beast, which you deleted with the reason "not notable". This is not a speedy deletion criterion. While I totally agree with you about this one, we need to find a way to expand CSD, not just violate the process. I'm going to go through your deletions, and fix any other's that I find. Please be more careful. This one was not even listed for speedy deletion by anyone. JesseW, the juggling janitor 07:05, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
I left some comments for you over at ia:Wikipedia:Taverna, which I hope will help. Good luck with Interlingua. :) Almafeta 11:52, 20 September 2005 (UTC) Io te lassava alcun commentos a ia:Wikipedia:Taverna, que io spera va adjutar. Bon fortuna con Interlingua. :) Almafeta 11:52, 20 September 2005 (UTC) Possible etymology of VisayaJondel, this is from the Hiligaynon article in Facts about the World's Languages. It was written by a well-known Philippine linguist named Dr. R. David Zorc. He has worked with Visayan languages since the 1970's and speaks Aklanon & Tagalog fluently.
--Chris S. 13:03, 20 September 2005 (UTC) InterlinguaI liked your comments on the Interlingua Wikipedia. Interlingua's one of the two languages I see being qualified as being the international language but on Wikipedia most of the contributors seem confused as to what Wikipedia actually is and they often try to put up copyrighted works and newspaper articles. IMO the best place to learn the language in addition to a basic grammar reference is here: http://www.interlingua.nu/elibros/ The file called curso de conversation. Quite good. 211.202.17.124 17:36, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Got your comment. I understand Interlingua extremely well. I tried learning it, but I realized that there were "real" languages that I should've dedicated my attention to. The same with Esperanto. --Chris S. 02:35, 21 September 2005 (UTC) Do you ever use Wikibooks? I sometimes do. You should help establish how-to guides for doing dance moves. Just go to List of dances|list of dances on Wikibooks and put some information in the articles. --SuperDude 03:51, 24 September 2005 (UTC) Hi from CataloniaI saw you are in Project ECHO. It seems me agood idea. I'm bilingual catalan and spanish and I can speak more or less english and french, so I think I could help. If you look at calana wikipedia and see something interesting, I can help in translations, I'm Barcelona there: http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuari:Barcelona Please, leave me a message! --62.175.92.90 16:23, 25 September 2005 (UTC) Can you start an article on Maradia Lawana. It's the flipino version of ramayana. --Dangerous-Boy
CharactersI draw your attention to の (AfD discussion). Uncle G 02:14, 29 September 2005 (UTC) Hi JondelHi Jondel. This is the anonomys that you have deleted even though you were the one who told me to go into the discussion site and comment. I was quite surprised that you did this. I didn't know there was a rule that I had to be a member etc. I am new here and did not know. But without explanation and delete? That was not nice of you. Especially you were the one who told me to comment when I questioned about one page about the Filipino race. I will be a member or I guess create an account. However, I am extremely sadden with your action. I do like to give input so that we can improve this site. I respect your work. But you have hurt my feeling. Sincerely yours, "Filipino Lover"
Image:NetoXiongzilla.JPG has been listed for deletion
--Bash 22:23, 30 September 2005 (UTC) Ilocano wiki
PampangosHi Jondel. I've just posted a message on the Talk:Pampangos page about the writting style of the entire article. Was wandering if you could help with some input that'd tone down much of POV there. Here's what I posted on the talk page. "This article seems to be written way too poetically and is highly POV.
As I said, very POV. Al-Andalus 02:35, 14 October 2005 (UTC)." Thanks. Al-Andalus 02:53, 14 October 2005 (UTC).
Hello Jondel!Hello Jondel! sorry for the late reply. Busy with work too. I caught a cold and just things after thing. Thanks for the warm welcome. I really appreciate it. Oh, I'm sorry, hindi po ako nagsasalita ng Tagalog. hehehe Many of my friends are Filipinos and I was in a relationship with a Filipino for three years. I love the culture etc. Ikaw Pinoy? Thanks Filipno Lover.
the wub's RfAThanks a lot for your support on my RfA, I really appreciate it. the wub "?!" 14:10, 25 October 2005 (UTC) Informe sobre la censura existente en la Wikipedia hispanaUna de las principios más importantes de la Wikipedia es que no se puede borrar información útil. Desgraciadamente, en la versión hispana, se da una tendencia a borrar información con la excusa de la neutralidad. Sobre la excusa de falta de neutralidad, la propia Wikipedia:Punto de vista neutral/Tutorial es bien clara: "Con frecuencia un autor presenta un PV porque es el único que conoce bien. La solución es añadir al artículo, y no borrar de él". No sólo se borran párrafos o frases, sino también artículos enteros. En estos casos, además de la ausencia de "su" neutralidad, pueden usar la excusa de la brevedad. Ésta ha servido para borrar ciertos artículos de pocas líneas, mientras otros se dejan, con el cartel de esbozo. Es por tanto un criterio arbitrario. También parece ser un invento de estos "borradores" (editores o censores), ya que parece que no se recoge en las bases de wikipedia. Finalmente, es un criterio absurdo: la wikipedia es un trabajo en proceso, como toda la búsqueda humana del conocimiento. Si empezamos a borrar artículos imcompletos, nos quedamos sin ninguno. Si está incompleto, se amplia, no se borra. Se deduce de todo esto, que las verdaderas razones para borrar algunos datos y artículos es la presencia de un punto de vista no neutral en los que borran. Pueden, por ejemplo, borrar información válida que no coincida con la visión izquierdista de la realidad. Otros se borran porque no son alta cultura (pero esta es otra historia). Todo esto resulta en el pensamiento único, en un monopolio ideológico. Nada que ver con la Wikipedia en inglés, donde se puede criticar a cualquiera. Aquí sólo se puede criticar a Aznar (ese pasado facha, como se resalta en su artículo), pero no a Zapatero. Pinochet es un dictador, pero Castro no. Cuba es un paraíso donde no hay presos políticos ni se persigue la homosexualidad. Estos administradores hispanos se han inventado "su" propia neutralidad diferente a la Wikipedia. Como en "el Señor de la Moscas" han inventado sus propios dioses y cazan al disidente. A la hora de borrar información, los censores no usan la página de discusión, sino que simplemente hacen como César: "Vine, vi y vencí". Si el que había escrito la información se rebela y la vuelve a añadir (generalmente un recién llegado a la wikipedia), puede entablarse un rifirafe de añadir/borrar/añadir, etc. que puede durar hasta días y en el que el recién llegado sale obligatoriamente perdiendo, ya que no cuenta con las prebendas de los habituales, como proteger la página. A la hora de borrar artículos, suelen usar diferentes medios:
Hay toda una población flotante de "colaboradores de wikipedia" que no crean, amplian ni mejoran artículos sino que que se dedican exclusivamente a instigar y a votar la eliminación de los artículos que no les gusten (manteniendo así la "pureza" de wikipedia). Existen, claro, administradores ecuánimes como Comae que intentan salvar la información aportada por estos recién llegados (y pronto idos, claro). En esta guerra civil, la facción dominante crea una Wikipedia a su medida, impidiendo el pluralismo. Su censura y persecución de las voces disidentes (no llevan un minuto trabajando en un nuevo artículo cuando ya pretenden borrarselo) conduce a la reducción del número de artículos y al empobrecimiento de los existentes en Wikipedia. Es habitual, además, que estos administradores (o habituales) lleguen a insultar al ajeno o recién llegado. En marzo, estaba leyendo un artículo de Juan Avilés en la revista "Política exterior", nª99 (mayo-junio de 2004), pp. 31-39 y se me ocurrió trasladar algunos datos, como los del sumario del juez Baltasar Garzón, algo del de Casablanca, etc, para lo cree artículos sobre los acusados en el 11-M. Pensé que era una forma correcta de organizar esa información. ¡Craso error! Además de borrarlos, la administradora Lourdes Cardenal (Wikipedia:Café/Marzo de 2005)escribió que, con esos artículillos, "Se está dando cancha en la enciclopedia a terroristas". Y el más moderado Comae le replicaba "no creo tampoco que nadie lo considere como un apoyo a dicho personaje, ni nada por el estilo". Lourdes insistía: "hay que actuar y rápido porque luego pasa lo que pasa con los extremistas". Algunos días antes, en la Discusión:Euskera, había manifestado mi preferencia por el término vascuence en lugar de euskera, ante lo cual Ecemaml afirmó que si soy "el que fija la libertad" e insinúa que veo una "oscura conspiración judeo-masónica", atribuyendo a mi persona uno de los tópicos del franquismo. Todo esto en boca de quienes ejercitan una censura ideológica en la wikipedia hispana. Y los demás administradores callan y miran. Por contra, en Wikipedia:Punto de vista neutral/Tutorial se dice bien claro: "Considera la parcialidad un problema con el artículo, no con la gente que lo escribió. Adoptando la táctica contraria sólo consigue que la gente se obstine y que parezcas el malo. Aprende, no ataques". En Wikipedia:Café/Abril de 2005 02, encontramos la siguiente conversación donde algunos de estos "habituales" se jactan de haber conseguido expulsar a las voces disidentes:
Hay muchos más ejemplos de esta actitud mafiosa. Así, cuando un wikipedista recién llegado se queja en la [de discusión] de que se le proteja un artículo y no le dejen modificar algo que considera erróneo, los administradores borran hasta su observaciones en la página de discusión. Obsérvese:
Llegó un momento en que se me ocurrió solicitar a estos administradores que antes de borrarme los artículos que empezaba (porque ya lo hacían sin leerlos, en una auténtica persecución ad hominem), me los copiarán en mi página personal. Era una forma de contener sus ansías censoras de alguna forma. Sus respuestas fueron de este calibre:
Como se puede observar, ninguno de estos habituales recuerda la frase de Voltaire: "Posiblemente no esté de acuerdo con lo que tú digas, pero defenderé hasta la muerte tu derecho a decirlo". Lo peor es que algunos de estos censores han traducido las reglas y hasta las recomiendan. Desgraciadamente, no basta con recordarselas:
Estos administradores (o censores, que sería su nombre correcto), se engañan a sí mismos y a los demás. Han convertido La Enciclopedia Libre en su dictadura. Ahora me llevan a mi (poema de Bertold Bretch)
No creo que haya que reducir los contenidos de la enciclopedia a lo habitualmente considerado culto, o lo que sea bueno, bonito y caro. Me temo que las pulgas de la cama (los temas de interés restringido) no son los bichos de los Pokemon o las alineaciones de futbolistas, sino las obras de cualquier poeta moderno. Por otro lado, redactar un artículo sobre las aventuras de Pikachu no significa que se le considere superior a la Odisea de Homero). Si es real, y de interés colectivo, puede hacerse un artículo sobre él. La votación para eliminar ese artículo no procede.
La verdadera neutralidad (tal y como la concibo hoy y aquí) debe cargar contra todos, contra cartagineses y romanos. La verdadera neutralidad debe denunciar, analizar y criticar a quienes están en el poder. Lo otro es complicidad. "El precio de la libertad es la eterna viligancia". Dejaré que sea Karlheinz Deschner en el prólogo a "Historia criminal de cristianismo", traducido por J. A. Bravo, quien hable: "Pero ¿qué diré de mi propia objetividad? ¿Acaso no soy parcial también? ¿No hablo desde mis propios prejuicios? ¡Naturalmente! Como cualquier hijo de vecino. Porque todos somos subjetivos, todos estamos condicionados por múltiples influencias, individuales y sociales, por nuestro origen, nuestra educación, nuestro ambiente social, nuestra época, las experiencias de nuestra vida, los intereses que nos llevan a explorar estas o aquellas áreas del conocimiento, por nuestra religión o irreligión; en fin, por una multiciplidad de influjos variados y toda una red de vínculos determinantes. [...] Admitámoslo: todos somos "parciales", y el que pretenda negarlo, miente. No es nuestra parcialidad lo que importa, sino el confesarla, sin fingir "objetividades" imposibles ni elevar pretensiones de "verdades eternas". Lo que importa es la cantidad y calidad de las pruebas que aduzcamos para documentar nuestra "parcialidad", si las fuentes utilizadas son relevantes, si el instrumental metodológico, el nivel de argumentación y la capacidad crítica son adecuados. Lo decisivo, en fin, es la superioridad palmaria de una "parcialidad" sobre otra. [...] Tengo para mí que la historia [...] no puede cultivarse "sine ira et studio". Sería contrario a mi sentido de equidad, a mi compasión para con los hombres. El que no tiene por enemigos a muchos, es enemigo de toda la humanidad. Y quien pretenda contemplar la historia sin ira ni afectacción, ¿no se parece al que presencia un gran incendio y ve cómo se asfixian y abrasan las víctimas sin hacer nada por salvarlas, limitándose a tomar nota de todo? El historiador que se aferra a los criterios de la ciencia "pura" es forzosamente insincero. O quiere engañar a los demás, o se engaña a sí mismo. Diría más, es un delincuente, porque no puede haber delito peor que la indiferencia. Ser indiferente es facilitar el homicidio permanente. Solicito (por enésima vez) que no se borre algo porque simplemente no guste o atente la sensibilidad propia. Por mi parte, puedes decir que Augusto, Napoléon, Castro o Pinochet son dictadores. Y que tanto la izquierda como la derecha fueron responsables de la Guerra Civil. Hugh Thomas no te lo borrará :p.
Borrando que es gerundio Me parece que está en contra del espiritu de wikipedia borrar información (y ni siquiera opinión, sino simples nombres) y hacerlo sin usar antes la página de discusión). Además, es una falta de respeto a los demás. Concibo que la wikipedia es un trabajo en proceso, como toda la búsqueda humana del conocimiento. Si empezamos a borrar artículos imcompletos, nos quedamos sin ninguno. Si está incompleto, se amplia, no se borra. Jews in the PhilippinesHi Jondel. I just read the message you left on my talk page. Yes, there was a mention of Jews in the Philippines in the Demographics of the Philippines article, but the entry was removed - along with other entries that cluttered the article with "statistics" of no demographic importance for a country with a population of 88 million people. But anyway, let's see if I can help. The population of Jews in the Philippines today is at the very most 500 people. Estimates range between 100 and 500 people (0.000001% and 0.000005%). Manila boasts the largest Jewish community, though even here it consists of around 40 families, give or take a few. There are of course other Jews elsewhere in the country, but these are obviously fewer and almost all transients (diplomats or business envoys). It is worth mentioning, however, that at their height, Jews living in the Philippines at one stage numbered around 10,000. The period in which most of these Jews arrived was under president Manuel L. Quezon, when he allowed them entry as persecution in Europe increased - which as we know, eventually lead to the Jewish Holocaust. Most of these, however, were also merely in transit. A good book on this specific topic is "Escape to Manila: From Nazi Tyranny to Japanese Terror". It narrates the story of the newly arrived Jews in the Philippines; from their day of their arrival, their daily life in Manila, to their departure to other destinations a decade later. As you probably gather so far, almost the entire population of Jews in the Philippines were of Northern and Eastern European origin (Ashkenazim). Whatever number of Sephardim (Spanish Jews) there presently is in the Philippines is as a result of post-19th century arrivals from Morocco or Turkey. When the Sephardim fled from Spain in 1492 during the Inquisition, most fled to the areas that would become modern-day Morocco and Turkey, Portugal (that is, until the inquisition followed them there), the Netherlands and throughout the Americas. Contrary to speculation, there is no historical evidence whatsoever to suggest any Sephardi made his/her/their way directly from Spain - or any of those who had fled to Hispanic America, or for this argument, specifically Mexico - to the Philippines on the Galleons during the Spanish Inquisition. In fact, the hypothesis is almost fictional. For those who had made it to any of the Spanish colonies in the Americas - anywhere from the modern Southwestern United States all the way down to Patagonia - once the inquisition reached them there (ie. those who weren't already tried and burnt at the stake by the franchise offices of the Inquisition in Spain's American colonies) most simply merged into their surrounding populations and eventually lost all connection with Judaism. The pockets of crypto-Jews around Latin America are the exception. In any case, they did not then migrate to the Philippines. Any migration that took place was from there to the Dutch posetions of Curaçao, Aruba, and New Amsterdam (modern-day New York, where they built the United States's first synagogue, and were that country's first Jews; preceeding the Ashkenazim.) Getting back on track... The one and only synagogue in the country - the second ever built in the Philippines - is Manila's Beth Yaakov Synagogue. It was built in the 1980's. The only other synagogue which existed prior to the erection of Beth Yakoov was Temple Emil (built in the 1920's). Unfortunately, Temple Emil was destroyed by the Japanese during WWII. Anyway, that’s all I know of the top of my head. I hope I was of some help. Al-Andalus 07:41, 30 October 2005 (UTC).
Juan Lunahey, good idea bout Juan Luna and Spolarium. Do you think the painting itself could be an article on its own, like Mona Lisa? :) --Noypi380 10:17, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
Little helpI noticed on WP:RD/L that you said you lived in Tokyo. Could you check out my request at WP:RDA#Non-Compliant Japanese Mirror? Thanks. Superm401 | Talk 04:32, 6 November 2005 (UTC) User:I Hate My Ex!Can anything be done about this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/I_Hate_My_Ex%21
I'm acting on the user name right now, search the appropriate admins board and anything on names that may be seen as potentially offensive.--Jondel 01:53, 9 November 2005 (UTC) |
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