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Walt Disney Parks and Resorts

I thought I should tell you, although you may know, that the measles outbreak incident is included in the article Incidents at Disneyland Resort and is more accurately stated as I read it. I think it is germane to that article and I would not see a reason to delete or amend it, taking for granted that the article itself is notable. I mentioned to the editor in a later message that my main problem with the edit was that it was inaccurate. The legislature did not introduce a vaccination requirement as a result of the incident, but simply restricted or made more difficult exemptions to the existing requirement. I also said that I saw a more accurate statement in the Incidents article and that the measles outbreak and consequence was more germane to that article; as I noted in my edit summary, it did not appear germane to the Parks and Resorts article. Donner60 (talk) 10:32, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Just to fill you in, the edit that you reverted is from an obvious sock puppet of Curse of Fenric. I was going to revert it before you did. So Thanks.--JOJ Hutton 10:56, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
Wow. I didn't realize that. If I had, I probably would not have bothered to leave a somewhat detailed explanation and somewhat sympathetic message though I might have still left a brief explanation because of the face appearance of the edit and source. Donner60 (talk) 22:40, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
@Jojhutton and @Donner60: I don't know whether to say "unfortunately" or "fortunately", but the SPI came back negative to GhostLight being Curse. TrueCRaysball | #RaysUp 00:50, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. That makes me feel a little better because I thought I had been taken in by sock and that seems not to be the case. Donner60 (talk) 00:56, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Check user is just one way to weed out sock puppets, but just because a SPI check comes back negative does not automatically mean that the account is not a sock puppet. As the other two ip edits were determined to be from "static" addresses, meaning that the edits were most likely from smart phones, it's easy to come to the conclusion that GhostLight edited the same way. Those types of edits are very hard to link. GhostLight was blocked anyway. JOJ Hutton 01:05, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
I am glad you are on top of this. Thanks. Donner60 (talk) 10:15, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

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Hello, Jojhutton. I hope you are well! I tend to look forward to a chance to work again with an editor with whom things didn't work out together the first time, in the hopes that good faith resolves itself the second time. Do you have a moment to offer an uninvolved opinion? You are one of two editors to whom I have made this request (I believe I am involved at this point). Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Public Storage/1. It's a fairly short article about an American company. Thanks for considering it! Cheers. Prhartcom (talk) 15:03, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

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Ohio State University

I agree that the official name of the school includes "The" as is the case with many other schools. As this is part of the proper noun, I agree it should be capitalized. However, the format on the Wikipedia pages for other schools does not include "The" as part of the bold text so I don't see why it should be included on this page even though their official names also include "The." I using one standard format makes more sense than arbitrarily having this page different than the others hence my edit earlier. The OSU Wikipedia page emphasizes that the name was officially changed to "The Ohio State University" but The State University of Iowa was also changed to The University of Iowa in 1964 and that Wikipedia page has the same format as the other "University of statename" pages. Either a lot of updating should be done to bring other schools into your desired format for the OSU page or the OSU page should join them. Medicalmiller (talk) 03:41, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

First and foremost, there is Wikipedia:Other stuff exists. Second, there has been a long standing consensus with this article to have this in the lead. It has been debated and discussed before. Third, you use the argument that other articles don't do this, but in fact some article do, Pennsylvania State University and Rutgers University. And when it comes down to it, those articles should also be in bold. I'm not sure why they are not.--JOJ Hutton 13:23, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

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Truman in 1952

He most certainly did run! From his article: "Truman had hoped to recruit General Eisenhower as a Democratic candidate, but found him more interested in seeking the Republican nomination. Accordingly, Truman let his name be entered in the New Hampshire primary by supporters. The highly unpopular Truman was handily defeated by Kefauver; 18 days later the president announced he would not seek a second full term." KarlFrei (talk) 14:02, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm well aware of that happening. However, if that is the criteria you wish to use, then you seem to ignore the fact that Johnson also participated in a few of the early primaries. So that would make your edit incorrect no matter what. JOJ Hutton 14:18, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
I am sorry that I am not an expert on US political history. In this case, it would seem that the article should refer to Johnson instead of Truman, of course. KarlFrei (talk) 08:28, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
It shouldn't refer to either because neither man lost a reelection bid. Hoover was the last one.--JOJ Hutton 10:12, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

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Seriously? Seriously???

I've spent hours over the last several weeks working on Jedediah Smith, which was in dismal shape when I started. You make no effort to assist, and yet 10 minutes after I put something in you don't like, you start edit warring over it? I like it, it's not hurting anything, and you're just making up your own rules: "Must have a reliable source stating that the producers of the film based the character on him. Otherwise it's trivia." So, indulge me. Lynn (SLW) (talk) 21:17, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

You've made many outstanding edits. That's great. I only removed a single arbitrary edit that is missing a reliable source and is completely false. Sorry you take offense to this. I wasn't trying to disparage your entire work. That said, you may need to become familiar with a few standard policies and guidelines we like to adhere to on the Wikipedia. They are WP:OR and WP:RS which are both core content policies. Anything that violates a core content policy should be and can removed. Also read WP:OWN, WP:BRD, WP:Consensus, and WP:3RR. Thanks. JOJ Hutton 21:25, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
I'm very familiar with the core concepts "you" like to adhere to on the Wikipedia. They are very open to interpretation. You are interpreting them to say "Must have a reliable source stating that the producers of the film based the character on him. Otherwise it's trivia," Really? The producers have to say it? Wouldn't that be the writer? You're making up your own standard. Lynn (SLW) (talk) 21:38, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
Yes, that should be clear. The edit states that the character was based on JS, but where is the proof? There is no source for this at all. Unless there is a source, the claim shouldn't be made on wikipedia. That's how false information gets started. Wp articles are written using reliable secondary sources, not other wikis that anyone with an email address can edit. JOJ Hutton 21:46, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
There is no claim being made about the veracity of the statement, just that it's being made. That is a fact. Now, if I had made an edit that stated that Jed Smith was an alien sent to earth to wipe out the beaver, maybe you would be justified in insisting on better sources. But, that a character with the same name in a comedy movie is said to be based on him? The death of Wikipedia is going to be due to arguing over pissy little stuff like this. Lynn (SLW) (talk) 21:55, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
Find a better source because it violates the core content policies of this site. Don't like the policies, then get them changed, otherwise the policies need to be adhered to. Also you said that you are aware of WP:BRD. So why did you not follow this guideline? You made a bold edit and I reverted it. You should not have simply reinserted it without discussion. These guidelines are there to help with disputes, but you seem to be willing to edit war over this detail. The information you entered is not only false, but it's misleading and without a reliable source. JOJ Hutton 22:02, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
BRD is a guideline, not a policy. I was the one who had been making all the edits on the article, it was your responsibility to be civil and start the discussion if there was something you had an issue with. Lynn (SLW) (talk) 22:05, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
I called it a guideline. And I think you truly are unaware of how the Wikipedia editing process works. You don't get a free pass to add whatever you wish without being reverted every now and then simply because you made all of the edits. It is not my responsibility in a conflict dispute to begin a discussion. You added the content, it's up to you to get consensus, especially if you want to add false information without a reliable source. JOJ Hutton 22:10, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Once again, it was not a false statement. I said that it was "said" and it had a source saying it. It was a qualified statement, but not a false one. BRD also states that the practice is supposed to be used judiciously. Your revert, especially the second one, was not judicious. Yes, it was your responsibility to start the discussion. Lynn (SLW) (talk) 22:19, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Well it is false because the character is not based on the historical figure, no matter what some editor on another wiki says. And yes, BRD clearly states that if your edit is reverted, DO NOT REVERT AGAIN. You reverted again. You failed to follow the BRD process which has become a very standard practice on Wikipedia and is there to help alleviate edit wars. You don't have a consensus to add this so it shouldn't be included in the article.JOJ Hutton 22:29, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
"Well it is false because the character is not based on the historical figure, no matter what some editor on another wiki says." Okay, provide evidence for that, and I'll be happy to remove it. Or, better yet, add that evidence to the article to explain the controversy. But, you don't have consensus to not state that that is what is being said. Lynn (SLW) (talk) 22:38, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
You want me to find a source saying that your source is wrong? That's not how this works. You are addicted no the information. It's up to the person adding information to use a reliable source. Per WP:V, you need a reliable source. Per WP:USERG, wikis, such as the one you are using are "LARGELY NOT ACCEPTABLE" and therefore do not qualify as a reliable source. It's the same as if someone makes some claim on Twitter and then someone else tries to use that tweet as some sort of justification to add false information to Wikipedia. I haven't gone through all of your other edits and n this page. It may be time to examine your other sources, especially if you think that a wiki is a reliable source. JOJ Hutton 22:57, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
Feel free to go through my edits, if that will make you feel better. Lynn (SLW) (talk) 23:03, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
Yes, it looks as if you've attempted to introduce original research with poor sourcing before as indicated by a previous discussion on the talk page. I see a pattern forming. JOJ Hutton 23:07, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Uh huh. Lynn (SLW) (talk) 23:09, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

And did you happen to take a look at WP:USERG? Pretty clear that the source unacceptable. JOJ Hutton 23:15, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
Seriously, I think this has to do more with your obsession with Night at the Museum than the Jed Smith article. How about we just remove the wikilink to the movie, and call it good? Lynn (SLW) (talk) 23:19, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
How about you add a reliable source and not use a wiki? Did you read the guideline? It's not about my obsession with anything, it's about having a reliable source for information that is included in Wikipedia. There simply just isn't one. JOJ Hutton 23:28, 31 October 2015 (UTC) Lynn (SLW) (talk) 23:40, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia says that article states it says what it says. It is a reliable source of it's own statement. Lynn (SLW) (talk) 23:40, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
But then its not notable on its own merit if that is the case. You are doing some serious wikilawering here. Nitpicking the parts of the guidelines that you think will help, but ignoring the others. You see, using a tweet to say that some celebrity said something is okay by that standard because the celebrity is notable, but using a wiki to say that a wiki says something is no acceptable beaches the wiki in of its self is not notable. --JOJ Hutton 23:49, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
I'm not even referencing the guidelines. I'm just saying that stating that a source, "reliable" or not, says something is not the same as treating the source as reliable. Especially in a trivial matter, there's nothing wrong with that. Lynn (SLW) (talk) 23:59, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
There is something wrong with using an unreliable source. Its not encyclopedic and makes an unsubstantiated claim that is clearly without merit or proof. The Night at the Museum wiki is not notable enough to be sourced for its own information.--JOJ Hutton 00:03, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Well, we are just going to have to agree to disagree. If you like, we can do a RfC. Lynn (SLW) (talk) 00:07, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
More likely go to WP:RSN. Thats the place for this discussion.--JOJ Hutton 00:13, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Whatever you like. Lynn (SLW) (talk) 00:14, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

I don't like at all. I don't like to have to play these games with editors who clearly will not follow the simple policies and guidelines.--JOJ Hutton 00:16, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Okay, you got your way. Lynn (SLW) (talk) 01:44, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Its not "my way, its Wp policy and guidelines. And did you deliberately disrupt that article on purpose, or was that an accident?--JOJ Hutton 01:46, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Take it up with the last editor on the article. Lynn (SLW) (talk) 02:26, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Okay, RfC filed

And a request to move the previous discussion to the talk page submitted. Lynn (SLW) (talk) 15:56, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

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Hi there! I have reverted your edit regarding the birthdate of Iglesias, as the one you added is a non-RS online profile, and the other is the individual himself saying what his birthdate is (regardless of what language, that is what the article says). I think that someone is probably the best judge of their own birthdate; and I don't see it as a controversial change as there are no true RS that report the other date. Let me know if you disagree though! Jeremy112233 (Lettuce-jibber-jabber?) 22:14, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

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You're an experienced editor. Surely you've read WP:UNSOURCED. "Any material lacking a reliable source directly supporting it may be removed and should not be restored without an inline citation to a reliable source." You can't "restore last stable version"... you have to provide citations. By the way, the quality of the citation you provided is very low, but at least it's a start. Everything else that is either "self-sourced" or unsourced should be removed. BrightRoundCircle (talk) 23:05, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

The article has been tagged since 2008 (2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 tag dates were lost). Eight years is enough times to find citations. Please do not restore unsourced material. BrightRoundCircle (talk) 08:39, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

I have pointed out poor sources in case you want to replace them in your sandbox article. Wikis and forum posts are not reliable sources, and sources that merely point out that a work exists "in popular culture" are inadequate. One source, the Wired review/interview, almost qualifies, but it really doesn't discuss any significance of the work. If you need any help with verifying any further sources you add, let me know. BrightRoundCircle (talk) 02:36, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Butterfly effect merge discussion

You have been on Wikipedia long enough to know that there is no preclusion from editing an article while it's being discussed - either for deletion, merge, or for any other reason. My edits were done before the merger discussion and are irrelevant to the merger - they are not "mass deletions" as you keep putting it, they are removal of uncited and poorly-cited material. See talk page for the various issues with these references. You keep bringing up all these irrelevant objections:

Instead of restoring uncited material, why don't you find proper citations. See talk page. BrightRoundCircle (talk) 22:38, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

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What was that for?

I saw that you reverted my edit. Please tell me. What was that for?—Bde1982 (talk) 16:25, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Not responding to my message, I see. Why?—Bde1982 (talk) 22:26, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

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What was that for?

I saw that you reverted my edit. Please tell me. What was that for?—Bde1982 (talk) 16:25, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Not responding to my message, I see. Why?—Bde1982 (talk) 22:26, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

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That’s it. I give up waiting for a response from you.—Bde1982 (talk) 18:32, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

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Chevrolet Bolt date format

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Reflecting back on archiving issue

It's been a while...You and I haven't interacted much directly, though we did see each other last year. Reflecting back at Talk:Frasier Crane#Archiving, at the time, I thought renaming a talk page was the right method. However, afterwards, almost no one seems to practice it anymore for article's talk pages. Therefore, rather than renaming talk pages, I have done cut and pasting lately. Look at Talk:Politics of the Republic of China (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs). I didn't do the simple renaming. Instead, I was picky on which discussions to archive, and then I left in very old discussions about the naming issue. I guess you are also right. Also, I stopped being the OWNer of the "Frasier Crane" article and let others edit the page decently, though I still keep an eye on the page. --George Ho (talk) 09:24, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

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ANI

As I thought it would, it turned into a big WP:BOOMERANG for the reporter.
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I took the conflict over Jedediah Smith to ANI

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Ohio State University edit

I do not understand why you undid my edit to Ohio State University's page, where I removed a grammatically redundant "the" in front of the name. Can you explain why you reverted the change? Alexandermemelton (talk) 02:27, 27 February 2017 (UTC)alexandermemelton

This has been discussed in the past. The universities official name is "The Ohio State University". That is why its used where it is used. Consensus is and has always been to use the "THE". Hope that answers your question.--JOJ Hutton 02:51, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

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Date formats

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Hi. When I suggest an update or edit on the Duke University page using its Talk page, should I provide the rewritten proposed text, or just point out the need for the update and include a link to that new info? (I'm an editor at Duke hence using Talk page)

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Precious

"I try to contribute as often and as correctly as possible"

Thank you for articles such as United States v. Martinez-Fuerte and Ron Rodecker, for countless welcome plates for new users and countless warnings of unconstructive editing with the mantra "message re." and a precise link, for informative edit summaries and simple facts, for service in almost ten years, saying "I try to contribute as often and as correctly as possible", - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

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What she means to say is "Thankyou Jojhutton for supporting my unhealthy obsession with infoboxes". ♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:01, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Please keep the uncivil name calling to yourself. Calling someone "obsessed" is considered a personal attack.--JOJ Hutton 18:55, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
I am used to be called a monster, found that actually more charming. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:47, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
DYK that I go to an infobox discussion when I am personally invited? What I usually find is a failure to assume good faith (paraphrasing "failure to obey" from WP:Great Dismal Swamp), which is unhealthy indeed, so I try to avoid it. O du fröhliche Weihnachtszeit --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:45, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

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