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Article Viharn Sien
1. The name of the place is "Viharnra Sien" written on the entrance
- Viharnra is retrieved from Vihāra [sanskrit] but from original writting to English one character is transformed to [n], Viharnra respectivily.[1]
2. The Thai Government calls it "Viharnra Sien". [2]
3. It is a former "Royal Chinese temple" that is built within the larger complex Wat Yansangwararam.
- Because of the relationship to the Royal family of Thailand and China, King Rama 9 named it [Anek Kusala Sala] translates "multi charity sala". For Thai people it is called "Vihan Sien", "Wihan Sien", "Viharn Sien". Still, it is a Royal Chinese temple for both a place of worship and a museum because of its architectural layout and integrated shrine.[3]
Can we agree that the name of a place written on the building itself should be considered the correct name of the "owner and developer"?!
I don't think, Wikipedia editors should delete or change information that is printed in books and Government announcements based on feelings (see history of the page). Could you please advice? Regards Meow2021 (talk) 04:29, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
I think it needs to be toned down and written in a more neutral tone. The claims of millions of dollars etc, need to be backed up with sources or removed. --John B123 (talk) 20:56, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
Lucy Gibson
Hey.Now,I already added something new.I will add more details. I think, the message should be deleted. And, requested you to delete this message. P.H.TARU (talk) 19:54, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi P.H.TARU, I don't see any notability here. All three of the sources you have added are self published. You need to add in depth coverage in reliable sources to establish notability. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 20:04, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
I added more references and all are not self published. Some sources are reliable to establish notability I think . P.H.TARU (talk) 20:22, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
Ok,if I could not add more reliable sources, this article will be deleted? It’s counted as a Wikipedia page also added Wikipedia item. P.H.TARU (talk) 21:42, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
Ok,I understand but I don’t think I can add more sources. I tried but couldn’t find any more source. By the way, all are written in this article all are truth. And it has also it’s website. P.H.TARU (talk) 22:11, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
I have unreviewed a page you curated
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Hi John, thanks for the suggestion. However, I am still working on the page. I only intended to save it for further editing, I didn’t know it would get publish. Thank you, I would look at it. AjibolaIbrahim (talk) 19:19, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
Wow... I would really appreciate that. Please help me do that. Thank you for the assistance, I am hoping to get better with time. AjibolaIbrahim (talk) 19:25, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
Thank you so much for taking the time to review all 10 articles I published this week, plus some more in the past. You do a great service to Wikipedia! DanTickner (talk) 21:02, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello John B123,
I do not really want to dispute a decision of a (very) more experimented contributor, but I do not agree with your decision of redirect COVID-19 pandemic in Kiribati page to the Kiribati's paragraph in COVID-19 pandemic in Oceania. All countries have their own covid page without exception, whatever the amount of informations. We have just to move informations contain in this paragraph to the COVID-19 pandemic in Kiribati, what do you think?
Best regards,
Sami270 (talk) 14:28, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi Imcdc. It would be good if you could find different sources for refs 1, 3 and 6. What a company says about itself and interviews with company personnel are generally not seen as reliable. Regards --John B123 (talk) 07:36, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
Thank you very much John! May I invite you to take a look at Mario Kleff too, as I believe you are advanced in reviewing articles and links. I think I did it right ... Meow2021 (talk) 10:04, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi John. Thank you again <3 For future articles let me know if something is wrong. I'm still learning. Regards Meow2021 (talk) 10:56, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi John B123. Thanks for your edit on Michael Coulthart in which you notice that the references are incomplete. Unfortunately, I am having terrible trouble with the citation bot from where I connect. It has been spotty all day. Can you please help by trying it out for me from where you are? Thanks in advance, Magnovvig (talk) 19:04, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi Magnovvig, Citation bot isn't working for me either. I quite often have trouble with it. At times it runs automatically on the articles in multiple categories and during these times it just hangs if you try to use it. I've filled the references on Michael Coulthart with the RefToolbar, but it still might be worth running it through citation bot if you can catch it at a quiet time. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 19:28, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi John B123 thanks for your pointer to User talk:Citation bot#Does anyone know what is going on here? last month. Soon thereafter I noticed that the Bot was available again as someone had deleted the option to employ it for multiple pages at one go (which was being abused). And I'm somewhat surprised that this was the conclusion reached by others without my direct input. Anyhow, all's well that ends well. :) Magnovvig (talk) 17:50, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello John B123 in the interim since my last communication with you on 9 May they seem to have reactivated the bulk "linked pages" option, and the citation bot is no longer useful. Grrrr. Magnovvig (talk) 04:19, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
I'm afraid that when I was making the page for the Vaughans, I referred to the as The Vaughan family. Would you please help me remove the offending word. Other pages for prominent families, such as those of the Syphax family and the Quander family, do not use a the. It's been driving me nuts.
At the very least you could check whether what you're stating is actually true. I intended to update the article but didn't want to do it all in one go. I already explained on the talk page that Symmetry meets Wikipedia:NALBUMS so why claim it doesn't? Jules TH 16 (talk) 22:37, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
I already said that I left a message on the talk page? I swear, nobody reads talk pages. (Another editor undid a revision I made on an article and said I should take the subject matter up on the talk page, and obviously nobody ever reacted since.) Plus you undid the revision a mere two hours before I had finalized a new version. I never intended to leave the article in its pre-deletion state. Sometimes a little patience goes a long way. Jules TH 16 (talk) 19:19, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi John, I spent some time researching this article and shaping it into something better I think. For me, it's the second article of this style. Please check whether something is wrong and correct it if necessary. Thank you Meow2021 (talk) 06:29, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi Meow2021, a small point, where you have two references together you shouldn't have a space between them. Otherwise, it's fine. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 07:11, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi Meow2021, how's things in Thailand, do you sill need to quarantine for 14 days on entry to the country? Still looking forward to getting back to Pattaya. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 15:58, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Pattaya is great as always. In terms of quarantine, if you have a vaccine certificate, no. However, the number of those infected is increasing... All best. Meow2021 (talk) 16:04, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi Roxy, no I didn't. NPP is more about weeding out copyvios, unreferenced articles etc. I leave things like copyediting to those with better language skills than myself. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 18:22, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi John. Got a new article today. Submitting for your review. I've noticed this one was deleted before. See if this time it is ok as I do not have access rights to see the deleted content. Thanks. -Imcdc (talk) 13:49, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi Imcdc, I can't access deleted pages either, but a copy of the deleted page is available on the Internet Archive[5]. Putting aside the "Funds" and "Investments" sections, which do little to help establish notability, the deleted article is virtually unreferenced. Applying the same criteria to your article, there are three references. I'm not sure whether CrunchBase is looked on as reliable. It might be wise to add some more sources to the lead and Background sections. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 15:29, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi John. I've rewritten the lead and background parts while trying to keep them more neutral so to prevent the same issues from last time happening. I have removed the CrunchBase reference and added new ones to replace it. See if this works now. -Imcdc (talk) 17:46, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi John. Got one new article today on top of the other one thats still undergoing review. Submitting for your review. -Imcdc (talk) 16:24, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Hey, I just noticed that you added a stub template to a listhere. My understanding was that lists are generally not regarded as stubs. I was gonna be bold and remove them, but I already did it once before on the same page and was hesitant doing it again thinking I might be wrong. Could you clarify whether this can be regarded as stub? — Saadrafiq4 (talk) 18:01, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi GoWarriors151718. You need to reference that Mick Cronin is head coach and the team play at Pauley Pavilion. The reference you give for the schedule doesn't include where the away matches will be played. Ideally references should be from independent sources not the UCLA. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 14:46, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
@John B123: I understand all that but I looked at the 2020-2021 UCLA Bruins men's basketball page and there are no extra references that show Mick Cronin as coach or Pauley Pavilion as the home arena for UCLA. In addition, there are no extra references for away games on any previous seasons of UCLA basketball, meaning what I did with regards to away games is exactly the same as what everyone else has done previously. GoWarriors151718 (talk) 22:06, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi John. I have seen your recent edits to Wushu at the 1994 Asian Games – Women's taijiquan. Could you explain to me why you removed the results table? The Japan Wushu Federation link clearly displays the top-six in women's taijiquan as well as their scores. The Kyoto News source on LexisNexis though shows the full results for all ten competitors which is what I used to create the table. I understand it is not publicly visible, so if the information in the article could only be based on publicly visible resources, then I believe that the Japan Wushu Federation source with the top-six athletes and their scores should at least be included. Thank you. Yinglong999 (talk) 18:09, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi Yinglong999. The tables were unreferenced, only the opening sentence was referenced. If either or both of these references apply to the table then that needs to be shown on the page. It would be unreasonable to expect the reader to know how you sourced the tables. Whilst open-access sources are preferred, if they are not available then other sources are acceptable. This should be indicated in the citation using |url-access=registration or |url-access=subscription as appropriate. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 18:25, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi John B123 and thank you for the response. I usually do that because I figured it was a normal practice on Wikipedia, seeing how so many articles would include the main references in the single opening sentence and have no references in the medal table or results sections. What you said is contrary to what I have usually seen, but I understand your reasoning. I will be inserting the table back in but with an appropriate reference in that subsection. I must also add that Gao Jiamin is currently on the main page for DYK and there is a link on that page to this article, thus I feel it is best to reinsert the table at the time for the sake of interested readers. Thank you. Yinglong999 (talk) 03:41, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi Yinglong999, thanks, that looks fine now. On a side note, we don't usually put references in headings as it can interfere with navigation so I've moved it to the table. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 05:37, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Just asking a question only for my curiosity, few days back I had added an article for Star Vijay Music with proper sources, but someone remove the article & made a redirect link with Star Vijay article. Why? Is it possible to restore the article here? Can u help me to recover the article? (DreamTeamzz (talk) 16:10, 26 May 2021 (UTC))
Hi DreamTeamzz, the article was previously changed to a redirect following a deletion discussion.[6] Although the channel has now been launched, the references you gave just show that that it was launched, but don't show notability. I would suggest you leave it a while until there has been more coverage beyond the launch. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 16:29, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
It is requested to you, kindly restore the article, I will modify then as per ur telling.
One another request, kindly remove Star Kirano redirect link or delete it permanently, because within next 2 months, this new channel will be launched. If I remove redirect link & create the article, the article will be deleted soon.
Hi DreamTeamzz, as Star Vijay Music was previously deleted you need to re-create it through the WP:AfC process. Once Star Kirano has been launched and there are sufficient sources to show notability you can change the redirect to an article. I don't have the power to delete articles, you would need an admin for that. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 16:08, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi John! I actually copied only introductory sentences from the article Mohenjodaro. And as for copying from the other source, as per my information Wikipedia articles need citations for their content, still If I rephrase the article, would it be spared from the deletion? Another thing is that there are some other articles on IVC artifacts too e.g. Dancing Girl so I created this article. Sorry if I did something wrong because I am quite new in the field of creating articles.Aglrochisat (talk) 10:27, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi Aglrochisat, it was the "Significance" section that was the problem, it appears to be copied from flickr.com/photos/umasha79/15796996425 - see the red highlighted text at [7]. If you rephrase it that will be fine. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 10:40, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello. I've seen the Civil Response's page, that you fixed it, thanks! The Jobbik have 3 breakaway groups, first party is the Our Homeland Movement (Mi Hazánk Mozgalom), second is the Volner Party (Volner Párt), and the third is the Civil Response (Polgári Válasz). These parties are splited from the Jobbik, because the Jobbik is joined to the left-wing opposition parties, you know the coalition parties, László Toroczkai is a radical right wing (Far-Right) politican, that he wanted to elect him as the president of the Jobbik, the Jobbik was originary the radical right wing party, which was founded in 2003, that was the far-right wing party, just like the MIÉP (Magyar Igazság és Élet Pártja), which that party was founded by István Csurka, who was in the MDF party (Magyar Demokrata Fórum). István Csurka founded his own political party, the MIÉP was founded in 1993, ten years later the Jobbik was founded in 2003, and the Our Homeland Movement is founded in 2018 June 23, and it is nearly 3 years now, and this party is going to the 2022 Hungarian parliamentary election, and the party's prime minister candidate is László Toroczkai. So, these 3 parties is splited from the Jobbik, because of the left-wing opposition coalition parties. That's all. If you need something, just contact me, and i can help everything! Have nice day! --TomFZ67 (talk) 10:08, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I've completed every article on each of the European Amateur Team Championships (men's golf) 1959-2014. It would be of great value to have the completed articles reviewed, with a lot of facts and figures, easy to go wrong. Regards/EEJB EEJB (talk) 07:35, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi EEJB, the articles have all been marked as reviewed, in that they meet the minimum standards for inclusion in WP. I know easy it is to make a mistake when transferring facts and figures, but as I know little about golf I'm probably not the best person to check. Perhaps you might want to post a request at Wikipedia:WikiProject Golf where those with more expertise will see it. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 14:03, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi there. You recently restored the redirect of P Nation after it was recreated due to the AFD resulting in deletion earlier this month. The user who recreated it, User:Hinorisakamachi, has since done the same again under the title of P-Nation. You seem to have a much better understanding of this area than I do so I hoped you could take a look at the edit history and their behaviour concerning the article as I'm not sure how to best proceed with this. Thanks, Alex (talk) 18:32, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Previously I had asked to move articles from draft: P Nation to main article, but this couldn't be moved because the link article "P Nation" was used to redirect to Psy. I do not know how, have repeatedly failed to link to the article "P Nation". That's why I gave an alternative to the P-Nation article link. In Korean or other language links also use the alternative name "P-Nation". Can you ask for his help so that it can be transferred to the P Nation link? Thank you very much. Hinorisakamachi (talk) 18:53, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Then what is the solution? it is impossible if the draft is left too long, even though I have researched and matched the references and links listed in the draft are correct. Thank you Hinorisakamachi (talk) 19:08, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
On the Welles Park page. Usually the first thing that happens after I try to add something is it gets deleted. Thanks for helping improve the page instead of speedy deleting it Gradvmedusa (talk) 18:41, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Edward Slingerland
Hello John B123 - just checking back in with you about Edward Slingerland. You suggested improved references. I have added references to all books. Was there more you think needed addressing? Thanks.
Hi Alexanderwinfield3, I must have missed your previous message, apologies for that. I've added some {{citation needed}} tags where you need to add references. (If any of the references already used would also verify the tagged content, it's perfectly ok to reuse them.) Regards. --John B123 (talk) 20:55, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi John. I just updated the page for Herman Tømmeraas which you tagged as not meeting the notability guidelines. Can you please take a look at the changes and let me know. Thanks for your help and also do apologize if I have not placed this reply in the right place. Jackshere (talk) 13:42, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Norwegian youth series Semester was originally launched on its own site but has logged millions of views on Snapchat’s drama platform after being released earlier this month.
The series has had viewers in 180 countries worldwide and was previously sold to Scandi broadcasters NRK in Norway, DR in Denmark and Sweden’s TV4.
Moreover, the underground hit follows a teenager (Herman Tømmeraas, star of upcoming Norwegian Netflix original Ragnarok) who returns to Oslo after dropping out of school and skipping town to travel to Paris
Defining Linkrot in an acceptable manner for all parties
Hi,
I saw that you included a linkrot warning in my new article. I looked up the link provided for linkrot and both its definition and plan of action in response to it leads me to believe that we might not be on the same page in terms of it. I am fully willing to concede that most of the misunderstanding could be on my end but of course to have a good dialogue we should both be open to learning new information and being open to being wrong. I wanted to issue you an invitation so that we can talk about it.
Just wanted to give a thank you in giving a respectful response. I have had some trouble doing proper citing (with regards to the template) and (being respectful to not name names) some editors have not been acting respectfully with regards to myself being a new editor and trying to understand the basics. I also appreciate that your response was not mean-spirited and for that I thank you very much. I was confused with regards to linkrot (and I still have some valid points with regards to how some other editors have interpreted linkrot) but the citation template does make a lot of sense and this will make it easier if I continue to be an editor in the future on how to properly show citations. Anyway, I wanted to pop in and thank you for your help. Whatever my future is with Wikipedia, I am glad you are one of a handful that has been extremely respectful :) Updatewithfacts (talk) 22:41, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
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Hi I'm not sure how to use this page so I apologise for errors
It is a company that has existed for many years it supports many Olympic athletes and teams yet the information is sparse. I wanted to create this page as i see smaller less well established companies being listed on here. They do a lot of work behind the scenes supporting diverstity in cycling and donating to cycling projects in Sierra Leone. Would love some help to steer this away from being seen as a promotional piece
Hi RV, I've marked them as reviewed but didn't add the {{stub}} tag as they are a bit longer than some of the other articles. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 07:10, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
@John B123: ::Can you change the name to Bardia Sadeghi?
If you let me do it.
Bardia Sadeghi is an American Iranian pop singer.
According to my information, he lives in the United States.
Special thanks.Rauan Ishnaider (talk) 20:04, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks.
Well, for sure.
I will do this in the next 48 hours.
But in section see also, I wrote everything.
I try harder though.
Thanks.Rauan Ishnaider (talk) 20:21, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Feedback
Hello, I would love your evaluation and constructive comments on my newly developed article Commission on Human Rights and Administrative Justice (CHRAJ) Tima93Lb (talk) 21:21, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Hello John B123. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Brylian Aldama, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The two substantial issues raised in the 2019 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brylian Aldama were whether this player passes the WP:NFOOTY and WP:GNG tests. It would appear that WP:NFOOTY has been met, but perhaps not WP:GNG. Thank you. Shirt58 (talk) 09:47, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi Shirt58, thanks for letting me know. When I added the speedy tag[8] the article didn't show that he had actually played for HNK Rijeka (we often get articles created for players when they sign for a club, although the requirement of NFOOTY is that they need to have played for a club in an eligible league). A check on Soccerway didn't list him as having played for some reason. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 09:59, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Here are several of the 1973 team and transporter. If you click on the 'back' arrow to the previous sequence there's a rare shot of Peter sitting on the 1974 lattice frame. Also this sequence at Twitter rgds, --Rocknrollmancer (talk) 00:15, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Good-O, thanks for the articles. I looked on my new computer and could only find one pic of the transporter (that I 'borrowed' from Miss Croxford!) but there were others, one being an interior cabin shot - maybe on my old computer. Jamie Waters emailed Mr Braid last summer as I'd queried whether the Discoverer still had the V8 petrol/auto box (it has); I looked at something similar size a couple of times in the early 1990s but full motorhome, not workshop, and it had been converted to a Mercedes 4 litre turbo diesel and 5 speed manual box.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 23:52, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi Rocknrollmancer, I did know a few guys who were into sidecar racing back in the '70s. Their transport was Mk1 LWB transits with a floor constructed halfway up the back, the bottom being for the outfit and the top for sleeping. The vans started life as diesels (which had the radiator in front of the bodywork leaving a bigger engine bay) but fitted with 3 litre Ford V6 petrol engines. About 10 years ago I met a guy through work who toured Europe in an American motorhome with a V8 petrol/auto box. It had been converted to run on gas, which is readily available on petrol stations in Europe, and he reckoned it wasn't too expensive to use.
I noted your view about the notability of Satya Bhakta. I am curious about how you came to that conclusion.
You must have noted that he is mentioned in news articles, books and there is at least one book about him. He was the founder of the Communist Party of India as founded at Cawnpore. As you might know the Communist movements (of various shades) has rules two states in India, and has ruled democratic Nepal for most of time since the abolition of monarchy.
I have no connection with Satya Bhakta or the movements he was associated with.
He was already mentioned on Wikipedia in multiple articles, but the name was incorrectly linked to the article for another person Swami Satyabhakta. While creating the other article on Swami Satyabhakta, I came across the confusing situation that the same name was used by two individual scholars/authors active during early 20th century. Thus I decided to create this article too. Note that he is also referred to Satyabhakta.
He is noted in several books and even scholarly articles. Sometime, I, or someone else will hopefully use them.Malaiya (talk) 00:56, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi Malaiya. Politicians who are elected to national or state assemblies are automatically regarded as notable, leaders or founders of political parties, unless elected to a legislative body, are not automatically notable and notability needs to be established by WP:GNG. Whilst I don't dispute what you written above, this needs to be demonstrated in the article. A large part of the article is unreferenced. If you look at the {{notability}} tag it says "Please help to demonstrate the notability of the topic...", not that the subject is not notable. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 04:26, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
Patrolling Doubt
I am a new patroller, This page [9] was checked by you in May month. Why was this under non reviewed list? I understand notability very well but what exactly is our responsibility as a patroller. Asking to know your view and skipping mistakes. What is wrong patrolling and the list of patrolled pages by me. Sonofstar (talk) 21:06, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi Sonofstar. Marking a page as patrolled (which results in it being removed from the unreviewed queue) means that it passes the minimum requirements. If there are shortcomings, in this case lack of references for the results section, then it should be tagged but not marked as reviewed. Often the tagging will result in the creator resolving the problem, in which case it can be marked as patrolled. Although you could take action in the first instance, such as removing unreferenced content, sending to draft etc, it's better to tag and give the creator a chance to improve the article. Although we are patrolling to the same guidelines, the guidelines can be subjective (look at a typical AfD to see how different people interpret the same guideline) so in some cases one patroller would mark an article as reviewed and another wouldn't. In the case of Eva Haslinghuis it was marginal whether I marked it as reviewed or not, so I wouldn't lose any sleep about it.
In summary, "reviewed" means a patroller has looked at it and it passes the minimum standard, not just that a patroller has looked at it. If you have any doubts about what to do about an article when patrolling, it's perfectly acceptable to leave it to another patroller to look at it. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any queries about patrolling. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 04:10, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
I appreciate it if you can give feedback on my patrolling. I am conscious to avoid errors and you are pro in it. Sonofstar (talk) 17:27, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi Sonofstar, you're doing ok. Looking at the later pages you've patrolled, you seem to have taken my comments above onboard about not marking as reviewed if there are referencing issues. I see your edit on Neaspilota vernoniae was reverted with the edit summary "this template is redundant when it is used on articles clearly marked as stubs". This is incorrect. If the refimprove tag is valid then it's irrelevant if the article is a stub. regards. --John B123 (talk) 20:01, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
Torture to me
I created Draft:Karan Tanna which was reviewed 2 months before. In recent days, I noticed MrsSnoozyTurtle silently moved the page in the draft without informing me. Later after a discussion on her talk page and clarification, I moved the page back to mainspace once she stopped responding to me. Later again another user claimed this is not notable and moved to draft. Fair enough! After that I added 7-8 new sources and submitted to AFC, just to avoid the drama of draft and mainspace again and again but even after that MrsSnoozyTurtle added the tag of fan point of view, which is not correct, and also a notability tag. Is that the way to delete? I feel like she is giving a signal to everyone to not support and accept the page. As you are the admin I request you to look into it and resolve the conflict. Blackfishes (talk) 12:30, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi Blackfishes, I'm not an admin so don't have any powers over other editors. Looking at the article for the first time it comes across as promotional. It might be an idea to change the wording to a more neutral tone. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 15:38, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
I thought you are an admin but still thank you to reply. Can you update the content please or point out exact issue, I need your help to remove promotional things. I removed what as per my knowledge. Blackfishes (talk) 14:11, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi John, there is a strong consensus against merging Trans Fat and Fat. More than 10 comments. See Talk:Fat . Zero substantive comments in favor of merger since the initial proposal in 2020. How long do you propose we wait for someone to argue English wikipedia mistakenly had a trans fat article from 2006 to 2020, and should be the only major language without one?? Because nobody is making that argument, just making disruptive reverts. Declanscottp (talk) 23:07, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
