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The dacites taken from the summit display a noticeable variability in their composition and texture, and their temperatures varied between 734–989 °C (1,353–1,812 °F).
I know "their temperatures" refers to the temperature of the rocks at the time they were formed, but because the first half of this sentence is about recently-found rocks and is in present tense, the switch to past tense in the second half of the sentence sounds a little odd. Isn't the temperature of the rocks at the time of formation related to the variability in composition and texture? If this is true, then the connection/relationship could be shown in the construction of the sentence. You could attempt to do that, or explain the relationship to me and I would attempt the re-wording. If you don't want to do that, you could just change the last part of the sentence to:
...with their temperatures at formation varying between 734–989 °C (1,353–1,812 °F).
That way, you avoid using a past tense verb ("varied") and the switch in mid-sentence from present to past tense.
3) In the middle of the first paragraph in Erciyes#Glaciation is the following sentence:
A late Holocene glacial advance extended down to 3,850 metres (12,630 ft);[3] dating of these moraines has yielded ages of 1,200 ± 300 years ago.
Shouldn't the last phrase be 1,200 ± 300 million years ago or 1,200 ± 300 thousand years ago? I thought 1,200 years ago didn't seem very long ago.
Dear Jo-Jo Eumerus: You deleted a page called Narrative Capital but since the lack of third party references the company has been mentioned numerous times for an upcoming project on a Super Bowl star as well as the release of the film Lion.
Hello. I noticed that you deleted this article following an AFD discussion. However, from what I understand, she meets a number of criteria listed in WP:NMUSIC: #2 (while it was mentioned in the AfD that her highest charting single was at #39, it was still on the Oricon chart, the de-facto main music chart of Japan; the same can be said of her other singles and albums), #5 (she released three albums on a major label, the label that today is known as NBCUniversal Entertainment Japan), and #10 (she performed theme songs for the Higurashi When They Cry franchise). In addition, this page has a number of interviews with her; it appears that this website is a reliable source. I was unable to participate in the AfD discussion as I had only learned of the discussion today. But in any case, would it be fine for you if I take the (now-deleted) article to deletion review? I feel like the arguments I'm raising here weren't taken up during the discussion. Narutolovehinata5tccsdnew07:42, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
I'm unfamiliar with the reliability of Japanese music sources (unless they relate to video game/anime composers), so it's possible that those interviews could count as one (not all interviews do, it depends more on the website). But even still, how much importance do we give to the fact that she got a certain number on Oricon, over something like a well written article about her? ~ Dissident93(talk)16:21, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
As the nominator, I should chime in. I'm not sure at this point why I stumbled on Eiko Shimamiya, but when I did, I noticed that the articles about her and her music had the appearance of a WP:WALLEDGARDEN. All her articles seemed to connect to each other only, and there were few to no connections from outside similar articles.
I raised this concern on Wikiproject Japan and got no response. I also contacted two members of the Wikiproject Japan Music Task Force and got a negative reply from @Dissident93: (and thank you for that) and no reply from the other.
On looking further into the sources given for Eiko, I saw the given sources were dodgy, at best. As I said in the AfD nomination: Sourced to a music school's webpage where she is apparently a teacher, a blog, her Twitter, the webpage of her production group, and Anime News Network. WP:BEFORE turns up other blogs, music lyrics and download sites, and social media.
When I interpret SNG's for guidance in AfD discussions, I am aware that they indicate some-one "...may be notable..." and still expect to see at least some RS coverage. Especially considering that she did reach a music chart, I was expecting that there would be some independent coverage, coverage I did not see in my searches.
Turning to @Narutolovehinata5:'s points, I had seen the chart position and the albums, but no reviews or profiles or any other coverage that usually accompanies a notable musician. I had not seen the interview page and I'm not going to comment on it. I would not oppose DRV if an admin thinks that those are enough to reconsider them.
I will also include the caveat that, despite my effort to comply with WP:BEFORE, I am hampered by not being able to effectively do anything more than the most basic search using Japanese characters. I should also note that, having nominated the artist, I have PROD'ed the basically-unsourced song and single articles. User:Narutolovehinata5 may be able to create a good article for the artist and her music out of the current walled garden, complete with navigation template, that seems to lead nowhere. Eggishorn(talk)(contrib)16:40, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the review. I did all the changes you told me. However, I'm afraid Hoshino's image is clashing with the cosplayers. Do you think it would be better if I moved Hoshino back to the production section and change the caption to something like "Manga author Katsura Hoshino based several concepts of D.Gray-man from her one-shot Zone. What do you think? Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 21:34, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
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4. Linguistics Beyond And Within 1 (2015), 152-168
"Is there a method in this… madness? On variance between two manuscript copies of a Middle English Psalter"
Kinga Lis
John Paul II Catholic University of Lublin, Poland
5. "Young Minds. Old Questions in Linguistics"
Proceedings of the Fourth Central European Conference
in Linguistics for Postgraduate Students
Edited by Anna Bondaruk; Anna Bloch-Rozmej; Wojciech Malec; Ewelina Mokrosz; Sławomir Zdziebko
http://cecils.webclass.co/proceedings/CECILS4.pdf
Seriously, six independently-verifiable citations in scholary publications, four newspaper articles in English, and a review by the New Testament professor at Southeastern Seminary don't "look like reliable sources"? What else could I provide?
Jgc searchlight (talk) 17:09, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
I agree with what Jo-Jo Eumerus said above. It's necessary to actually read the references, not just list them. The first group are mere mentions, where the author of the article includes his translation of the Book of Psalms, among others. And I see that the author of those articles seems to be the only person who quotes it. They are not independent. One review is insufficient. Thenewspaper articles are local, and therefore not sufficient discriminating. The subsequent group just proves the existence of his translation of Psalms. DGG ( talk ) 19:44, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
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Ha! Practice makes perfect, even if it was last done one or two years ago. I was thinking of simply deleting the page but seeing as only the list is the issue, blanking made more sense. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:59, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
I was going to G12 the guardian one (which is basically the list and nothing else) and stub the other two (as they have more content than just the list) but I will hold off if you are dealing with it. Only in death does duty end (talk) 16:03, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
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Hi Jo-Jo Eumerus. Could you please explain why these files should be moved to Commons? I reviewed your request, but they seem to serve a local-only purpose. Regards, FASTILY20:41, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
I agree that all Commons-suitable files belong on Commons, but is it really a good idea to move these? They clearly serve a purpose specific to enwp, deterring local uploaders from using undescriptive filenames. Regards, FASTILY21:02, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
I think it is. Being on Commons does not harm the purpose of deterring enwiki users from bad uploads. Maybe the folks at Commons will start using them as well, too. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:05, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
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Hi. When you get the chance, could you give my FAC an image review? One was already given, but the coordinator asked for someone more experienced to do it. If you can't, please reply. Thanks. MCMLXXXIX22:31, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi Jo-Jo, I came across a set of nice publications about Lauca, so I decided to expand the article slightly and added an infobox and navbox. I rearranged the references, I don't know if you like it like this, but it separates the refs and bibliography where it's possible to have different pages from each pub. Also corrected the name of one author to Wörner (the Spanish have problems with German umlauts, but this appears his correct surname). Your production of GAs requires some assistance imho and happy to do it. When we can build a nice GA for a Colombian volcano together, give me a shout. Keep up the good work! PS: I saw you are Swiss, are you a geologist yourself? Swiss geologists are the best in the world... Cheers, Tisquesusa (talk) 19:32, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
Ha, we share opposites and similarities then. I like biology and write quite extensively about the biodiversity of Colombia, while being a geologist. I passed both articles for GA. My review may be more FA-focused (a GA I see as an almost FA), so based on your improvements I passed both. Yes, the accessdates do not show up when no url is given, but when it will be the date can be edited. Edited Tungurahua as well and added my own photo (panorama) of it. Unfortunately I was 1 week too early... I have a Colombian volcanic article in prep (apart from so many more), which ties in nicely with Fuegino (where I started looking for and downloading pubs when you asked me on my talk page for GA probability). So I may add those pubs to Fuegino so others can review that. Cheers, Tisquesusa (talk) 20:25, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
@Tisquesusa: Um. I'll admit, that La Reforma (caldera) going from {{[[Template:Some improvements have been made but most of the issues are not solved, especially the lack of coherence between dates. In geological literature that may happen due to different dating methods, areas, etc. But it's the task of a writer to summarise and streamline those differences, not just simply replicating every age and create confusion where that isn't there in the first place. Infobox is marginal, article is just not ready yet. I have made a very detailed list of points of which some were addressed, but the most important ones still stand.|Some improvements have been made but most of the issues are not solved, especially the lack of coherence between dates. In geological literature that may happen due to different dating methods, areas, etc. But it's the task of a writer to summarise and streamline those differences, not just simply replicating every age and create confusion where that isn't there in the first place. Infobox is marginal, article is just not ready yet. I have made a very detailed list of points of which some were addressed, but the most important ones still stand.]]}} to "pass" with no intermediary comment is a bit surprising. So were the issues addressed after all? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:56, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
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Twinkle's addition of protection templates seems to be breaking redirects. They should probably be placed manually after the redirect. (I don't think meant to protect that for 50 hours, either...) — Train2104 (t • c) 16:36, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
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As you can tell, I'm very new to this. The page was created by someone else and has been active for many years. If there was something that was added or uploaded that is not supposed to be there, I feel it would have been best to just remove that issue. How can we go about un-deleting the page and fixing the issues?
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