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For discussions before Labor Day Weekend at the end of August 2008, see User talk:Jim.henderson/archive 3

This talk page is for getting in touch with me on matters concerning no particular article or edit. I'll reply here, on the assumption you have watchlisted this page. For any recent edits of mine, whether on your talk page or an article, you should reply on that talk page, since I have watchlisted it. Jim.henderson (talk) 20:15, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Colonade Row Pic

Hi! From this edit summary, you appear to "speak" image. I have a shot I took of Colonnade Row. Well two, but one I couldn't use becayse the LPC sign is apparently copy-protected but I haven't a clue on how to access a commons image once I upload it there. Is there an easy tutorial somewhere? TravellingCari 01:18, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dissatisfied with the official instructions, I figured out my own methods this spring and summer and wrote them here this afternoon. You can ask for more on my Commons talk page, and I'll probably use such questions to improve my little pipeline piece. Jim.henderson (talk) 17:17, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. I'll have a look through it this weekend and let you know if I have question. I'm sure I will, I'm image stupid! TravellingCari 03:25, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bay Ridge Branch

I admit I thought of "Future" on the spot as a counter to the History section, but retitling it to "Return of passenger service" would seem to infer commuter rail use when you consider that the current and long use of the line has been for freight. The crux of the recent proposals have been to integrate the line within the NYC subway system, not the LIRR or Amtrak, so this isn't apropos either. --24.47.146.213 (talk) 09:01, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I didn't get it right, either, yet. We'll get there. Kindly continue discussions of this particular article in Talk:Bay Ridge Branch. Jim.henderson (talk) 17:11, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested LIRR-NYC Subway Station images

If you're ever biking through Central Park South, a good idea would be to take a picture of one of the entrances to Fifth Avenue (BMT Broadway Line). I was there last May, and I'm sorry I didn't snap some shots of it, along with a few others. ----DanTD (talk) 19:58, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Carport

Hi Jim, I did include references to that pasted source, but seems the url is now deleted, so not sure what can be done with the article. I was only able to reference that one source. I did find those photo's which showed the first carport built which probably can be added to article if copyright has expired. Not sure what else can be done unless someone has a book reference and since i am in Australia and don't have access to those book, thats not possible for me to do. Boylo (talk) 02:48, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Armory

The source I looked at did say 180, also form the New York Times. And I quote "A nine-story red-brick structure with a 180-square-foot drill hall and an 800-seat auditorium, the armory covers an entire block between Kingsbridge Road and 195th Street and Reservoir and Jerome Avenues." That’s why I reverted the edit. The other New York Times source says 180,000. It was a misunderstanding not "ridiculous". Here is the link [1] --CPacker (talk) 05:11, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

At least one of our sources for Kingsbridge Armory drill hall has screwed up. Think about it. 180 square feet is not enough space for a platoon to stand-at-ease, much less rear march or other elementary drill move. That's a ridiculously small room; the commander's office is probably larger. One thousand times bigger is rather large, and may also be mistaken, but I was on the outside of the armory, not the inside so I haven't seen it. Better I think to remove the figure until some more authoritative source can be found for how many zeroes belong there. Jim.henderson (talk) 05:41, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

lol, ya I agree; I'll look for a better one tomarrow. I havent been inside it either only I've only seen the outside.--CPacker (talk) 05:49, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Exchange sometimes = area code ?

In the Telephone exchange article, somebody said that Exchange is sometimes referred to as an area code. If this is incorrect usage, please revert. Greensburger (talk) 23:32, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mamaroneck River photo

hi - i'm fairly certain that the photo of the mamaroneck river you added to the Mamaroneck (town), New York article actually shows a portion of the river taken in the Village of Mamaroneck. you might consider moving the picture to that article instead. J. Van Meter (talk) 20:50, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mu Dynamics (AGAIN)

Hi Jim, Sorry to bother you, but we have a warning on our page again. I don't know where it is coming from, or how to remove it. I previously added clarification text according to the suggestions provided, and the warning went away. Please tell me how my page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_Dynamics has less "clarity" compared to the pages for BreakingPoint Systems, Codenomicon, Spirent, Ixia, etc. In the meantime, I'll try again. I find this frustrating...why don't I get alerted when these status messages appear? Tmaufer (talk) 04:07, 23 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.85.18.250 (talk) 19:11, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Having a little trouble with the editing software. Anyway when it works better, I'll answer at Talk:Mu Dynamics but meanwhile look at help:watch. Jim.henderson (talk) 21:30, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Major re-write today, hope it's now clearer what we're all about. Tmaufer (talk) 23:41, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikis Take Manhattan

WHAT Wikis Take Manhattan is a scavenger hunt and free content photography contest aimed at illustrating Wikipedia and StreetsWiki articles covering sites and street features in Manhattan and across the five boroughs of New York City. The event is based on last year's Wikipedia Takes Manhattan, and has evolved to include StreetsWiki this year as well.

LAST YEAR'S EVENT

Wikipedia:Wikipedia Takes Manhattan/Spring 2008 (a description of the results, and the uploading party)
Commons:Wikipedia Takes Manhattan/Gallery (our cool gallery)

WINNINGS? Prizes include a dinner for three with Wikipedia creator Jimmy Wales at Pure Food & Wine, gift certificates to Bicycle Habitiat and the LimeWire Store, and more!

WHEN The hunt will take place Saturday, September 27th from 1:00pm to 6:30pm, followed by prizes and celebration.

WHO All Wikipedians and non-Wikipedians are invited to participate in team of up to three (no special knowledge is required at all, just a digital camera and a love of the city). Bring a friend (or two)!

REGISTER The proper place to register your team is here. It's also perfectly possible to register on the day of when you get there, but it will be slightly easier for us if you register beforehand.

WHERE Participants can begin the hunt from either of two locations: one at Columbia University (at the sundial on college walk) and one at The Open Planning Project's West Village office. Everyone will end at The Open Planning Project:

Wikis Take Manhattan page at The Open Planning Project

349 W. 12th St. #3

Between Greenwich & Washington Streets

By the 14th St./8th Ave. ACE/L stop

FOR UPDATES

Check out:

Wikis Take Manhattan main website

This will have a posting if the event is delayed due to weather or other exigency.

Thanks,

Pharos

You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list.
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Wikis Take Manhattan rescheduled for October 4

Wikis Take Manhattan has been rescheduled for next Saturday, October 4, due to the rain predicted for this weekend.. I hope you can make it to the new time, and bring a friend (or two)!--Pharos (talk) 23:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Million monkeys

We aren't trying to produce something as difficult as poetry, but on the other hand we aren't as polite as monkeys, so it evens out.

Outstanding. I'd like to put that on my talk page. Should I credit it to you or is it a quote from somewhere? SpinningSpark 18:38, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks; please do. I'd be pleased anyway to see it spread, even as an uncredited folktale, and am downright delighted to be identified as its author. It ain't often I think of my own cute material instead of just quoting people smarter than me, but this one I do indeed claim as my own. Jim.henderson (talk) 03:10, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Port Washington Branch images

Way to go, Jim. You got images for every station on the Port Washington Branch except Manhasset and Plandome(I still want to take those next summer). You even got Murray Hill Station, and the only thing disappointing about that one is that it's not the previous station house that was built over the tracks like a bridge. FYI, you do realize I've got a gallery on the commons that are good for those, don't you? ----DanTD (talk) 13:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks; I'll reply in its talk page. Jim.henderson (talk) 16:54, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Power loading coil

Hello again,

I have just finished a major expansion of loading coil (it got on DYK briefly) but am a bit dubious about a claim in the original article regarding power cables and loading coils being installed in underground chambers. I especially do not believe that for submarine cables. I saw [a comment from you] but it was not completely clear whether you support the idea. Would you care to comment on the talk page of the artice? SpinningSpark 14:56, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Drat; I am able to find this about the AC cables that were run under Long Island Sound in the 1960s but unable to find a reference that they are indeed AC cables and thus have load coils. It was in the New York Times at the time and I have to do more searching after getting back from the Wikipedia:Wikis Take Manhattan event tonight. Jim.henderson (talk) 15:16, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here mentions "compensating stations" but does not mention that what those "stations" use for "compensating" are load coils. Well, gotta unfold the bike and head for the photo event. Jim.henderson (talk) 15:41, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think in general compensation stations switch in and out banks of capacitors to compensate the power factor of the load. It is nothing to do with compensating the trasmission line as far as I know. The grid phase angle is usually lagging due to inductive loading from lots of machinery and thus is compensated by lead angle capacitors. Even if inductors were to be sometimes used for compensating a leading phase angle, this would still not be the same as load coils on a transmission line which compensate the line, not the load. Although load coils are often described as compensating for capacitance, they are in fact doing something rather more mathematically subtle. They are equalising the velocity of propagation across all wavelengths thus ensuring that all of the signal arrives at the same time undistorted. This is of no consequence to the power company as they are only interested in one wavelength - the one that corresponds to 60 cycles, the frequency of transmission. The effect of load coils on improving attenuation is small by comparison to this effect and gets minuscule as we come down in frequency from voice to power transmission frequencies, being limited in what it can achieve by the resistive attenuation of the line. So I would be surprised if they were used on power lines. Surprised but not totally stunned, a small percentage of 500kV is still a lot of volts and a big spark! SpinningSpark 20:37, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, it appears, as sometimes happens in Wikipedia, that I know less of this subject than I thought. I assumed, when 50 or 60 Hz gets applied through tens of miles or km under water, capacitance with the water would become a major issue and call for the big load coils that I saw described in a long lost newspapar article, unlike with wires hanging in the air. Thanks for the little lesson, and please go ahead and correct any articles that may be misleading due to my misunderstanding. Jim.henderson (talk) 16:54, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Telecom load coils can be large and heavy. Here is a picture of one being lowered into place with block and tackle. Maybe you mistook the purpose of the transmission line because of the scale of the engineering. SpinningSpark 20:25, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Anti-urbanism

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Anti-urbanism, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

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Swift Folder picture

Image:Twoswiftsjrh.JPG

Hi Jim, I hope I'm putting this question in here correctly by editing this page, I'm not much of a wikipedier. I was wondering if the swift folders in the picture you took are your own bike(s). If so, I would like to know where you bought yours and if it came with the setup in the picture or if you upgraded it yourself. From my web searching I think I figured out one of the swift designers has a bike shop in Oregon that does paint-jobs with that same color of blue so maybe you got it from Oregon instead of from the NY Design Mobility? Thanks ;) Drewzylou (talk) 03:49, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, on all counts. Ain't mine; don't know who owns or painted them or where they got them. They were standing around at a Foldup Festival about half a year ago or whenever the pic says it was made. Meanwhile my Brompton was posing with twenty of her sisters for their group pic in Brompton Bicycle article. Oh, and new sections belong at the bottom, not the top but it's no big deal. Oof, tired from 20 hilly miles on my Brompton this afternoon; I'll give it a rest until Monday and then do 25 with fewer hills. Oh, Swifts are also cusomized by some guy named Peter in his shop on Sackett and Nevins Streets in Brooklyn where he let me do a test ride last year but I went for Brompton instead because it fits in my closet. Jim.henderson (talk) 05:27, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

103rd Street–Corona Plaza (IRT Flushing Line)

That's another station I wanted to add images to. I was looking forward to those tiny old-fashioned 103rd Street signs they have there. I've posted a link to show you what I'm talking about. I suppose that's what I get for being trapped in Florida, but hey, at least you got an image for that station. ----DanTD (talk) 00:40, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I generally put little effort into subway station pix, and get poor results. This was just another out the car door shot on my way to Flushing. I get better pix while bicycling, and best of all when I actually use a station, which is three or four times a month. Got a nice shot of the Christopher Street PATH platform returning from photographing Kearny, New Jersey a couple weeks ago. Tomorrow and the next day I'll be processing the pictures from Wikis Take Manhattan, which were almost entirely in Brooklyn for me. This Sunday morning I'll go to Bronx County Courthouse, probably by subway, choosing a route on the basis, among others, of which line is less photographed. And hope in the afternoon to get one of a pipeline over the Hutchinson River I found out about a week and a half ago. Jim.henderson (talk) 05:16, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

NYC Meetup: You are invited!

In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, finalize and approve bylaws, interact with representatives from the Software Freedom Law Center, and hold salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects (see the June meeting's minutes and the September meeting's minutes).

We'll also review our recent Wikis Take Manhattan event, and make preparations for our exciting successor Wikipedia Loves Art! bonanza, being planned with the Brooklyn Museum for February.

In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and (weather permitting) hold a late-night astronomy event at Columbia's telescopes.

You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list.

To keep up-to-date on local events, you can also join our mailing list.
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Larchmont looking for an impartial opinion

Hi Jim - this is surely going to sound like a strange request for assistance and my apologies in advance for the imposition. I have seen the many images you have added and edits you have made in relation to places throughout the NY area. You seem to have a genuine interest in improving the site and hopefully you will have an interest in helping to bring some resolution to the following issue - Under the guise of reverting the edits of a banned user, select editors have been unfairly tracking and reverting edits to content related to Larchmont and New Rochelle New York (and blocking the countless users who try to contribute). It is not as though the subject matter is divisive or questionable (in terms of neutrality, POV etc) in any way shape or form. ((It is hard for me to explain the situation in a clear and coherent way because I find the whole thing very frustrating and unnecessary.)) New Rochelle articles such as Glen Island Park, Neptune Island, Echo Bay, Echo Island, Travers Island, Five Islands Park, Ward Acres Park, Premium Point, and Residence Park have all been removed - New Rochelle historic sites on the NRHP listing including Wildcliff, the Rochelle Park-Rochelle Heights Historic District, Davenport House and the Lispenard-Rodman-Davenport House have all been removed as well. The NR Metro-North Station article, Sheldrake Lake, The NR US Post Office and Thomas Paines Cottage have all been repeatedly stripped of facts and historic data. Not one of these articles are even remotely controversial, either in content or in potential content. I hope you can be of some assistance —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.88.120.86 (talk) 06:41, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is one reason I am glad not to be an Admin. No use getting into disputes on matters of which I know nothing. My only connection to these places is bicycling through this summer on my way to Connecticut and taking pictures. While inserting the pix I edited some of the text for form, not content. Early this month I saw disputes in progress over these articles and rather than spend time studying the questions I dropped them from my watchlist. Out of sight; out of mind.

So, now an anonymous editor asks for help. No, I would either simply go by my prejudices, including my prejudice against anonymous editors, or spend a lot of time studying the matter so as to judge properly. Ain't gonna happen as long as it means more time at the computer dealing with questions not of my choosing. If someone wants to discuss such things at greater length, see the above section for the meeting Sunday afternoon at the Columbia campus. Yell out my name or look for a tall handsome fellow with white beard and blue eyes, and I'll be glad to sit and chat about Wikipedia related topics including this one. Jim.henderson (talk) 17:07, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page shenanigans

Some anon (71.35.158.93) has been making suspicious edits to talk pages, using your name. See Talk:6mm Norma BR for an example. I going to see about getting him/her blocked for vandalism, but I thought you might want to know. Cerebellum (talk) 11:28, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Telecommunications terms

I debated adding Signal regeneration to Category:Telecommunications terms too, but that category really shouldn't exist at all. Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Articles are about the things they describe, not about the words that describe them. Signal regeneration is not a "telecommunications term", it is a technique used in telecomm networks. --Srleffler (talk) 06:17, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New York photos

I sure like them. Hope you like the way I snatch 'em up and caption them. If I told you of street-level details around New york and what articles they could illustrate, would it sound like I were officiously sending you on an errand? Things like Raffaelle Menconi's bronze flagpole bases in front of the New York Public Library on Fifth Avenue? Or Otto Kahn's refined Florentine palazzo at 1 East 91st Street?--Wetman (talk) 08:27, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am delighted, especially when I put Riverside Chapel on 9th instead of 10th Ave or otherwise screw up and am corrected. Feel free to cut a few pix out of a crowded article and paste into another that is more precisely appropriate or has room to spare.

I am also pleased to have some of my targets chosen by a savvy spotter who knows architecture as I do not. Better yet with a planned route with several targets along nearby streets or similarly sequenced. Temporary problem, this week I am mildly ailing and won't stray outside Hells Kitchen, but surely later this month my impatient bicycle will be free to kick up its wheels and run me around town, cheerfully chasing whatever deserves a snap.

Meanwhile you should also look in my Commons upload gallery at commons:http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/Gallery.php?wikifam=commons.wikimedia.org&img_user_text=Jim.henderson because some of my pix show places I more appreciate aesthetically than understand historically, hence are without a Wikipedia home. Jim.henderson (talk) 16:09, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yipes, you took me at my word and dug up a veritable gold mine of information! 79th Street (Manhattan) is becoming somewhat crowded and this afternoon I found a nice pic of St Monica's that still needs a bit of copping and tone adjustment which I'll do tonight, on a computer that's set up for that. Anyway some of the captions are a bit large, as though straining at the limits of a caption and trying to burst out into a proper paragraph. So, why not make a paragraph, where appropriate? If in a few cases you've got enough material, snip it out and make a whole new article on this or that notable building, especially where it's got a NHRP entry or other certificate of notability. And I'm reminded of Mario Puzo saying, if he knew "The Godfather" would make so much money, he would have written it better. I should take more time at each stop and make better pix for places that deserve better, for example the Society Library and the Greek Consulate which were snapped in a hurry and got bad angles. Jim.henderson (talk) 19:53, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jim., I can't open your Commons file linked above. The Wikipedia scavenger hunts aren't producing usable images, though I'm sure the teams have fun. 79th Street is well covered, river to river: so, what's a neighborhood you'll be finding yourself in, when the holidays are past— Happy Christmas!— and the current snowfall melts away? --Wetman (talk) 06:36, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Drat; I continued the discussion of NY streets and of Wiki Takes Manhattan in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New York City#Street level architecture but failed to notify of the shift. Yes, the wildly complex link to the Commons personal gallery was bound to go wrong somewhere; better to go to commons:User:Jim.henderson and click on the Gallery tab on top. Last Saturday I walked from South Ferry to South Street Seaport, snapping pix all the way. The following day I got off the subway at Parkside Avenue and walked south into Flatbush, catching a few nice shots. I uploaded those Thursday and yesterday. My ambition is to go nowhere and take no pictures until springtime. This is an impossible discipline; we'll see where my urge bursts out into uncontrollable shutterbuggery.

NR post office

Hello - I came across your query on the discussion page for the New Rochelle Post Office. If you want the correct information you cannot rely on what Orlady has told you. She is the sole individual objecting to the use of the term 'mural' when referring to the artwork that is in the building. The building is a NRHP however not so much for the architectural significance, but for the murals inside. Specific reference to the term 'mural' can be seen in a number of sources that were provided. These sources include very reliable documents including: United States Post Offices in New York -- 1858 to 1943 -- Thematic Resources (the National Register of Historic Places Inventory Nomination Form), The Westchester County Planning Board discussing the post office in relation to re-developing the site,further discussions, and the New York Times article about the artist selected to paint the murals. The nomination form is the most irrefutable source validating the information (it specifically references two of the three murals when discussing the importance of post office art). Additionally, the city of New Rochelle continues with redevelopment of the area and has recently come to the decision that the significance of the building itself is minimal, with its only true attribute being the 'distinctive curved contour' of the front facade which is familiar to residents of the area and should be maintained. (Im sorry but I cant find this specific document at the moment). The continuing reverting of this information is entirely the result of Orlady who personally does not seem to care for the facts. Unfortunately it is resulting in a deficient and inaccurate article. I also should mention that blocking users as alleged puppets of a banned user seems to be the most useful means for Orlady to control the content of certain articles. She is clearly abusing the tool. The validity of her claims is questionable at best. I was blocked as a result of my contributions to this article, and was labeled a 'sock'. Considering that I am in no way connected to the banned user, I found it rather disturbing to be blocked based on 'evidence' that has absolutely no validity whatsoever. Perhaps you can spend a moment to review the information provided and the facts will speak for themselves. Thank You —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.16.230.15 (talk) 15:27, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bike Boom

Hey, thanks for the work on the Bike boom merge. Much appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keithonearth (talk • contribs) 06:21, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Photos

Hello. Many many thanks for uploading photos to the Ely Jacques Kahn article. I've been looking for pics to illustrate that article and meant to thank you for the first one you uploaded. However, the recent one of the Squibb building wasn't designed by Kahn and office :( This one was his.[2] I guess they changed the name to the address. Beautiful photos btw. Regards, DVD 23:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to help. A more general discussion of my street photos is at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New York City#Street level architecture. I didn't take the 40 West 57th Street photo in question but found it in Wikipedia in a vague search. Besides being labelled as Squibb, it seemed to fit the description with the smaller street front on 56th than 57th.

Tonight being warm and having other business nearby I went slightly out of my way, walked through that building's passage from 56th to 57th, but saw no public logo saying who the tenants are today. Perhaps you can put some information into that photo's description to say what it was and is. Same goes for any other pic I either take or find; information in a photo description doesn't have to be of Encyclopedic quality to help editors who want to use it in Wikepedia or elsewhere.

As for the 5th Av and 58th St building in white with several setbacks, my dim memory is failing to distinguish it from the Crown Building. Good chance I'll find time this weekend to walk by and see how good a pic I can get. Unless the weather is warm enough to create an irresistable urge to unfold my bicycle and wheel on up to The South Bronx to snap the Bronx Borough Courthouse, another case of confusion for me, having got a nice pic in October of the more recent Bronx COUNTY courthouse. Jim.henderson (talk) 01:54, 25 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply! Happy holidays and New Year btw. The cement factory picture you added is one I didn't expect but is a perfect photo. That building looks to me like a dirigible hangar or a Quonset hut but cast in stone and you captured it well. If you can photograph anymore of the Kahn buildings (especially the earlier or middle ones) Wikipedia would be much better off. There is so much more to add to the article, I just found some pictures of his later work, and I have some writing to add on my desktop. This link [3] has good identifying info to help with any confusion and has links to his firms Jacobs & Kahn and Buchman & Kahn where most of his designs are found. His middle and later work have this modernist formal quality made through collaboration with other firms and at the same time they are finely detailed but the earlier art deco work has original form with wonderful details by fantastic artists I know too little about, which is what I would focus on if I could take pictures of his work, since we don't have any on Wikipedia. If any of them aren't out of your way... DVD 01:22, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seasons Greetings

Hey - thanks for your contributions to the NR Post Office discussion. Your objectivity is certainly helpful & is much appreciated ( your countless photo contributions are a tremendous benefit to the site as well. keep up the good work!! ) * * * Happy Holidays * * * --84.16.230.18 (talk) 22:11, 25 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome; glad to help. Generally I have found stubbornness a poor weapon of wisdom against the foolishly stubborn. Especially when I was newer to the business and my stubborness took the form of participating in a wp:revert war. Nowadays I get more success by further study, which sometimes turns up a cause of simple misunderstanding and always makes me feel more calm. Anyway, if no other signed-in editor wants to build up a good track record elsewhere and then bring that experience to the New Rochelle Post Office disputes, I'll probably add gradual increments to it over the next several weeks. If others prefer to carry on an edit war for whatever it is they think right and true, I'll just find quieter and more profitable areas to spend my limited time and mental resources. Jim.henderson (talk) 16:44, 26 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jim, you have discovered the secret to long and profitable editing at Wikipedia, without burning out! So a happy New year to you, and we'll look for those photos when the weather turns mild.--Wetman (talk) 06:25, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, somebody has to do police work to curb the fanatics, for example in political and religious topics, but it has to be somebody whose emotional equilibrium greatly exceeds mine. I've learned to flee.

Mild weather Thursday, Sunday and Monday drove me out to take pictures. Sunday a warm south wind blew me towards Washington Heights and The Bronx where I got many good pix, guided by a Christmas present, an official book of the NYC Landmarks Commission. Willis Avenue Bridge was closed to bicycles, so I got to 91st street too late for daylight pictures of the mansion at 5th Avenue. I took a few night shots, lit my bicycle lighting, and let Venus (planet) guide me home. Bad weather in the coming long weekend will probably keep me indoors, selecting, retouching and uploading my backlogged mild-weather pix. Jim.henderson (talk) 23:32, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Would you be able to recommend another editor who might be able to assist in bringing resolution to several other NR related issues/articles? ( all of which are straightforward but require an experienced voice for 'validation'). Really not intending to bother you but it would be cool if you can help. (in short, all of the following were good articles removed for apparently spiteful reasons - Echo Bay, Echo Island, Neptune Island, Glen Island (park/casino), Sheldrake Lake, Five Islands Park, Leland Castle, Davenport House, Wildcliff, Lispenard-rodman-davenport house, Pioneer Building, Rochelle Park-Rochelle Heights Historic District,Residence Park, Sound Shore Medical Center of Westchester and Premium Point.) All of these articles are about historic, geographic or community based topics that relate to NR (non-controversial topics). My discontent stems from being unable to effectively contribute to the NR USPS article however I do find it very troubling to see that this larger problem of 'information-control' is indeed occurring. . . . definitely a situation that warrants attention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.108.179.9 (talk) 16:28, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that Orlady has brought up my ip address to be questioned by the rfcu. Orlady has also requested to check a user who created an article which was previously removed. 1)The article for Travers Island was previously removed due to problems created by Orlady after the article was initially created. She attacked the validity of the article on several key points including questioning its existance and whether it is truly an island ( because landfill has been used to expand the island and link it to the mainland ). She also questioned the island's location and further argued that it was not indeed part of the city of New Rochelle because it has a Pelham Manor post office address, and because part of the expanded island lies across the Pelham Manor border. Orlady created an unnecessarily difficult and argumentative atmosphere due to her personal issues. Knowing that enough supporting evidence existed to prove that she was indeed wrong in her arguments, Orlady turned her energies against the creator of the article making accusations of 'questionable' associations with a 'banned user'. More significantly, Orlady asserted that the 'questionable' user had turned the article into a vehicle for confrontation which was the final rationale/justification for removing the article. She provoked the main issues and then manipulated the details to place the guilt and blame for her actions, entirely on the other. 2) This same exact dynamic exists in regards to the Sheldrake Lake article (from its creation she has had issue with the legitimacy of the lake and its name, because the former/alternate name for it was 'Larchmont Reservoir'. She preferred to believe that the lake was actually part of Larchmont versus New Rochelle, siding with the name 'Larchmont Reservoir' as her main defense. Researching the subject a little further would have enlightened her with the historical facts including that the reservoir was referred to as 'Larchmont Reservoir' simply because it served as the supply of drinking water for the village. Larchmont itself doesnt even border New Rochelle at the location of the lake, but rather, is several miles south. Orlady preferred to cast doubt over the articles validity and work against it rather than to help it.) 3)This is the same dynamic that existed with the US Post Office article for NR as well. She had gotten the article to be removed because of her dislike for the fact that 'murals' did indeed exist in the building. After other users raised issue, the article was finally recreated, yet the data remained to be limited, controlled and inaccurately conveyed to suit her needs. Finally, at least that situation has found some resolution.

Orlady has a pattern of reverting to the use of irrelevant, negative and biased commentary when discussing these issues, most assuredly as a further attempt to sway results in her favor. Please do try to help with this issue. THANKS! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.108.179.9 (talk) 19:03, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

PPS- was the photo of you + friend (from your user page) taken in Brooklyn near Borough Hall? looks familiar - thought Id ask ciao —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.108.179.9 (talk) 19:19, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the pic at commons:User:Jim.henderson was taken at the Park Plaza Diner at Pineapple and Old Fulton Street (Cadman Plaza West) in Downtown Brooklyn. A computer club meets there on the first Tuesday of each month. Tuesday, Jan 6 we'll meet again and anyone is welcome to find us there and join us for dinner. Usually, not always, we're at the western end of the resturant. Perhaps you can persuade me or one of my colleagues to join your struggle.

No, not likely. I know or care little about New Rochelle. Pleasant enough place, but my geographical interests are more local, and when they stray afield it's more likely to be into Monmouth and Richmond Counties. Better I think to learn how to do it yourself. For example matters like this that deeply interest you and little interest me, should be discussed in your user talk page rather than mine. This of course implies a user account. I suspect your preference for anonymity is based on fear of persecution, which in turn would be based on past confrontations. No doubt your opponents in those cases were overexcited and failed to exercise sound judgement, but there are also methods that can deflect such foolishness.

Me, I'm always glad to find an excuse to apologize. For example, in the post office discussion I brought up the deletion of December 9. When the reply veered into vague accusations from the more distant past, I implicitly apologised for not making clear that I was discussing a particular edit at a particular time. Not that I could see how it could be mistaken, but it provided an opportunity to apologize. If you have at times used alternate accounts to dodge an unfair ban or otherwise trespassed against Wiki custom, then those may provide splendid opportunities for apology.

The lake location question might be addressed by turning it into a history of the NR water supply. Not a whole free standing article like Ridgewood Reservoir, but a paragraph in the NR article. This obviously would require research, and the insertion would also call for modesty. One trick that works pretty well for me is to wait for an article to calm down, having had no edits for a few days. Sometimes this requires waiting a week or a month while other questions settle down. Whatever it takes. Add a sentence, with citation, and a few days later, assuming nobody else gets busy in the article, another sentence, and over the course of a month, build a paragraph. Stubbornness that creates impatience is the least effective kind. At least, that's my experience.

Of course, I'm only patient about matters that attract my interest. For less compelling matters, I act quickly, perhaps react instantly and stubbornly to foolishness on the part of another editor, and then as quickly give up. I only practice slow, patient, gentle peristence when I care about the topic. As for a Travers Island article, I don't see the point. Better to build it as a paragraph in Pelham Islands, and to a section with a few paragraphs if you've got that much good, sourced, and interesting information. Only hive it off if it grows beyond a reasonable size of a section, which is unlikely. And of course don't forget to compare it with Hunters Island farther south. Jim.henderson (talk) 06:28, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Whitehall Street–South Ferry (New York City Subway)

Hi, Please comment on the proposed merger of Whitehall Street (BMT Broadway Line) and South Ferry (IRT Broadway–Seventh Avenue Line) and subsequent split to South Ferry Loops (New York City Subway) at Talk:Whitehall Street–South Ferry (New York City Subway). I'd appreciate your input. Acps110 (talk) 02:28, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're invited!

In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, look at our approval by the Chapters Committee, develop ideas for chapter projects at museums and libraries throughout our region, and hold salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects (see the November meeting's minutes and the December mini-meetup's minutes).

We'll make preparations for our exciting museum photography Wikipedia Loves Art! February bonanza (on Flickr, on Facebook) with Shelley from the Brooklyn Museum and Alex from the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

We'll also be collecting folks to join our little Wikipedia Takes the Subway adventure which will be held the day after the meeting.

In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and generally enjoy ourselves and kick back.